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Offline freeskier7791

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #390 on: July 15, 2021, 03:09:26 PM »
It's so satisfying to get the tune right.  My injectors and pump were so clogged that when I finally got them sorted it feels like a whole different car, wheelsping all the way through 2nd no problem.
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Offline rk970

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #391 on: March 24, 2023, 11:56:08 AM »
17,000+ miles so far,   :drive: .
I need to wrap the vr crank sensor wire in copper foil tape (and get rid of the band aid aluminum foil) and ground it back to the ecu..  once in a moon it will pick "noise" from the ignition , usually when it is really cold and humid out (great I live in the PNW)
Average MPG is 22 bombing around the island, and I did get 30 out in eastern washington. 
4oz of oil used in 1000 miles.


Offline rk970

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #392 on: April 27, 2023, 10:57:32 PM »
For the love of god... Has anybody experienced a harmonic balancer failure.







Offline digitalsolo

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #393 on: April 28, 2023, 01:50:26 PM »
Youch!    LS motors chuck the outer ring sometimes, yeah.
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Offline rk970

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #394 on: May 09, 2023, 06:34:56 PM »
I did not get any pics.  Got it fixed.  Used a Powerbond PB2221SS SFI 18.1 approved balancer.   I had to mill .104 off the snout to fit my 60-2 trigger wheel. 
Anyhoo I feel like the old balancer has been an issue for quite some time.  The wee little v6 runs much, much smoother, trigger logs now look text book with no false triggering and timing error is under .04% (was up to 2% before). 


Offline spacevomit

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #395 on: May 10, 2023, 11:31:29 AM »
Fascinating

Offline kinger

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #396 on: May 10, 2023, 11:48:03 AM »
Awesome find for sure!
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Offline rk970

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #397 on: December 16, 2024, 06:53:24 PM »
Clutch chatter...  lol..  It was so bad in 1st gear I pulled the trans.  Then I rebuilt the trans (new 1-2 slider, reverse idler gear and 5th shift fork plus all bearing, synchros shift pads ect)  Pulled the clutch to realize the fly wheel was ground with a .012" bevel toward the center (won't be using that shop). New clutch and the flywheel was ground flat. 
Then I noticed the rear main seal was leaking (WTF FML). Pulled the rear main seal and the seal housing was not centered.  Pulled the pan and seal housing and installed a new housing using a delrin centering ring I made then pressed in a new rms. 
Well since the pan was off I cut the bottom off and made a new one with .8 more qt capacity. 




I found out I was over torqueing the pan to rear seal housing and distorting it.






Since I had to pull the left side header this is what the ex ports look like.



Any hoo.  The clutch action is much better and the trans shift effort is awesome now.

Offline rk970

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #398 on: December 16, 2024, 06:55:08 PM »
And put in a Melling 10552st "Shark tooth" oil pump. 
« Last Edit: December 17, 2024, 02:58:59 PM by rk970 »

Offline cholmes

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #399 on: December 16, 2024, 11:59:10 PM »
About your beveled flywheel: I don't remember what kind you're using, but if it's cast iron there's a good chance it started out flat and got beveled with use.

I race an FC in Lucky Dog events. It has a GM 3800 supercharged V6 that used to be in a Fiero, using an aftermarket cast iron flywheel. It has the same flywheel now. After many racing miles, I took out a broken T5 and checked the flywheel. It was beveled toward the center like yours. I knew it started out flat because I checked it when it was new.

My business partner used to design clutches and flywheels for Tilton. He said that with heavy use -- lots of shifting for us, can also be if you slip it much -- cast iron flywheels, especially thinner / lighter ones, can get that bevel. It's really warpage due to heat cycling. The O.D. of the friction surface gets hotter than the I.D. and that temp difference causes the warping. Thicker / heavier flywheels are less prone to it.

He said to machine it flat, and it may or may not do it again. I machined it flat, we went racing some more, and when removing (another) broken T5, checked it again. It stayed flat. BTW, we were having pretty bad chatter with the puck type Spec disc we were using with the warped flywheel. New disc + machined flywheel really reduced the chatter. I didn't bother replacing the pressure plate. Still chatters a bit when hot and leaving a pit stop, that's just the way it is with that disc when it gets hot.

I'd suggest getting it machined flat, replacing the disc, and see how it goes.

Offline rk970

Re: My 4.3 vortec 84 FB
« Reply #400 on: December 17, 2024, 02:55:29 PM »
Not using a light weight flywheel or a hi pressure clutch cover.  It was only making contact on the outer 1/2" with the clutch disk.  I have seen flywheels do this to only .004" not .012"  and not constantly across the entire surface. 
Any hoo. it was reground, new disk, pressure plate, throw-out and pilot bearing went in. I have had good luck with the t5 since the car weights 2480 lbs and I am old and no longer side step the clutch.