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Offline Rx7TyreBurna

Choosing some coilovers....
« on: April 05, 2024, 12:13:05 PM »
I honestly don't know a lot about suspension brands / quality.
I was considering Fortune 500 coilovers.  My goal is to stay under $2k.
The car isn't daily driven.  Just summer time fun drives, and occasional track (road race / autocross).
Once I choose coilovers, it looks like I need to choose spring weights?  Any suggestions for that?  I've seen stuff all over on that.  Some saying 12k/10k, some 10k/8k.

I have aluminum block, t-56, and ford 8.8 IRS. 

Offline tai-lun

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2024, 04:25:47 PM »
Ohlins DFV FPSport 12/10kg - Once and done sounds like it may fit the bill, it will be worth pushing the budget a bit for that quality. There is a set on the club for sale, open box but you won't get it cheaper than that. https://www.rx7club.com/market/1164235

Have a look at this thread - https://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=27437.0

I've been talking to "Esser" about Ohlins DFV FPSpec Long Stroke which is quite a bit more in cost but our cars setups are similar, even for some of the more extreme builds people have nothing but good to say about Ohlins. After stalking a lot of coilover threads here, on the club, and the FB groups the same comments come back that eventually folks go the Ohlins route for street/spirited driving balance.
Tai - 93 LS2 Ronin Widebody FD
Build Thread: https://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=9172.210

Offline Rx7TyreBurna

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2024, 05:30:21 PM »
Just to clarify, this is for 1991 FC.

I see that other one is FD?

Offline Rx7TyreBurna

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2024, 05:32:42 PM »
Spring rate wise, 12/10 also apply to FC?

Offline Exidous

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2024, 05:44:23 PM »
No, FC will be a fair bit different but I don't have a response aside from the DFVs are borderline magic for a not adaptive damper.
FDis dual wishbone and multi link. FC is MacPherson and some weird trailing arm thing. I'd guess something like 7kg fr/8kg RR. But that's just a wag.
94 BB Sleeved gen IV LS7, MS3ProU with TC, RONIN 8.8 and LT's with custom 3.5"single to VAREX muffler.

Offline Rx7TyreBurna

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2024, 09:03:12 PM »
Awesome, thanks.
Yeah, I know the FD has a significantly better setup.  haha!

With the FC, I've seen the front needs to be way stiffer than the rear.

Offline Christopher W.

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2024, 01:13:14 PM »
I recently asked Joel about sway bar setup. He spoke of the spring rates in his answer as well.  Maybe this can help on both.

"Sway bar setup does depend a bit upon your driving style but I played with several before settling on what I have now.

Spring rates also come into play here since we're talking about overall roll rates of the car. I would suggest the most common spring rate splits (all numbers in kilogram per millimeter) would be a 6/5 front rear, on the mild end. 8/6 for a dual purpose track and streetcar. 9/7 is getting beyond streetable but can work well on the track.

If you're in that general vicinity, then my favorite sway bar setup, playing with off the shelf bars, was a racing beat front bar combined with a stock rear bar.

After that I decided I wanted even less rear bar, to help keep things planted coming out of corners.

Mathematically, the same overall torsional spring rates front to rear worked out to a 1 and 1/4 speedway style hollow bar with an 1/8" inch wall thickness, plus no rear bar. While t's technically adjustable with variable holes (yes and heim joint end links) I never really have. Overall it dropped about 20 lb and it's right where I want the balance to be. It's basically about halfway between the stock from bar and the racing beat front bar with no rear.

I am on an 8/6 spring rate by the way. The setup has been good enough to help me win my region's SSM autocross class for the last 5 years running."

Hope that helps,
Joel Payne

Offline Rx7TyreBurna

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2024, 04:58:53 PM »
Awesome, thanks for the information!  I was just thinking about sway bar stuff.
For a while, after the swap, I didn't run any sway bar.  I have had the adjustable endlinks laying around, so I eventually threw those in with the stock front bar.
But, I had to stick some big pieces of metal between the rail and everything to get the bar down some, because I was hitting the engine.  Even though it can hook up now, it feels almost under tension even just sitting there doing nothing.
I'm going to re-assess it when I put coilovers in the car.

Any idea where to get a 'speedway style hollow bar'?

Online MPbdy

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2024, 07:42:58 PM »
This was my FD, but I have had really heavy sway bars on my car before and I actually went back to stock.  I actually prefer the softer bars for the street by a long shot, and did very well in autocross.




Offline kinger

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2024, 03:30:51 PM »
Such a balance, and I am disappointed in myself.  I am actually thinking of going close to oem spring rates on my GC Koni set up  ::)

What has happened to me LOL
93 Touring, 6.3L, T56 Magnum, Mamo RPS BC2 clutch, FAST 90, NW 90TB TB, 8.8, samberg everything, AC, PS, TC, Cruise, LED Tails, HID head lights

Offline Christopher W.

Re: Choosing some coilovers....
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2024, 04:03:23 PM »
Awesome, thanks for the information!  I was just thinking about sway bar stuff.
For a while, after the swap, I didn't run any sway bar.  I have had the adjustable endlinks laying around, so I eventually threw those in with the stock front bar.
But, I had to stick some big pieces of metal between the rail and everything to get the bar down some, because I was hitting the engine.  Even though it can hook up now, it feels almost under tension even just sitting there doing nothing.
I'm going to re-assess it when I put coilovers in the car.

Any idea where to get a 'speedway style hollow bar'?

I would have sworn I posted this link...  Guess not.  I have not ordered from these guys but I plan on it unless someone else has better suggestion.

https://1speedway.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=76&product_id=89