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Offline petawabit

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #135 on: May 25, 2020, 01:20:45 PM »
Hey Joel, would you guys be to sell the bump steer accessories separate? 

Offline frijolee

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #136 on: May 28, 2020, 03:15:27 PM »
Hey Joel, would you guys be to sell the bump steer accessories separate? 

Yes, we can do that.
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

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Offline Tictakman

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #137 on: May 28, 2020, 07:43:43 PM »
Just placed my order!

Offline Turbotronic

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #138 on: May 28, 2020, 11:14:48 PM »
Just placed my order!

Same. Finally, I can get this project done.

Offline Daniel1286

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #139 on: May 29, 2020, 04:56:15 PM »
Something's happening!

Offline frijolee

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #140 on: May 29, 2020, 05:55:50 PM »
Yep.  Listing are live. 
http://www.roninspeedworks.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=59

Everyone on the list was given 24 hours head start against the free shipping offer (saves $95 against the kit version).

The coupon code is "ProperSwap" and it's applied in the shopping cart.  There are still a few available with the discount.

We're pretty stoked on these things and we're glad others are too.  We'll begin shipping parts as soon as we've welded up more pedestals so we have those available bare (the default) and we've powdercoated subframes for those ordering that version.

Regards,
Joel Payne

(for RSW)
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

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Offline Kewin

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #141 on: May 29, 2020, 07:27:56 PM »
Hey Joel, I have a 2jz FD and I was thinking whether I should wait for the release of the 2JZ Variation, do you guys have a time frame for that one?

"Note, we're launching the subframe with LS motors in mind, but we're working on variations for 20Bs and 2JZs"

Offline Herblenny

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #142 on: May 29, 2020, 10:21:36 PM »
Ordered.
Didn't ordered the long tubes and I'm debating...

Offline dtsan

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #143 on: May 30, 2020, 12:42:01 AM »
ORDERED! So excited. I'll have to make an order later for the 8.8 conversion w/ grande. :D

Joel, I left a message on the order about the trans mount. I'll be using a TR6060 instead of a T56. Wasn't sure if there was an option to not get the trans mount, or get it unpowdercoated to modify for a tr6060, or whatever lol.

Offline Exidous

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #144 on: May 30, 2020, 02:21:55 AM »
Ordered.
Didn't ordered the long tubes and I'm debating...

If you aren't turbo they are pretty darn nice. Probably the nicest set for the FD yet.
94 BB Sleeved gen IV LS7, MS3ProU with TC, RONIN 8.8 and LT's with custom 3.5"single to VAREX muffler.

Offline frijolee

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #145 on: May 30, 2020, 04:10:50 AM »
Ordered.
Didn't ordered the long tubes and I'm debating...

Sold our last set on hand today but we're already working on the next batch (with a few very minor tweaks from feedback to date).  The downside is that our machine shop is moving so exact timing is TBD.  Shooting to at least have all the piece parts bent before the move so we can weld these up as needed.

Hey Joel, I have a 2jz FD and I was thinking whether I should wait for the release of the 2JZ Variation, do you guys have a time frame for that one?

Need to identify a test car so I don't have an ETA yet.  Want to be the guy?  We have a candidate we're talking to about 20Bs.

Joel, I left a message on the order about the trans mount. I'll be using a TR6060 instead of a T56. Wasn't sure if there was an option to not get the trans mount, or get it unpowdercoated to modify for a tr6060, or whatever lol.

There's a conversion bracket that converts the two styles that I've seen but I'm not sure who made it.  We probably should track that down as TR6060s get more common.  For now I know it can be made to work so we should be able to ship your order as is.
 

For anyone else...  my apologies but we have now sold the first 10 kits so the free shipping deal is now closed.   They all went to folks who has expressed early interest (haven't even done the wide social media posting as of yet).  That said, we still think this is a heck of a bang for the buck regardless of a shipping deal. 

That went fast so I'm pretty humbled by y'all tonight.  I've said it before, but as much as we love these cars, we continue to be blown away by all the amazing relationships these silly cars have introduced us to.  It makes all the late nights all worthwhile.

FD steering kits are now separately available.  http://www.roninspeedworks.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=112

Regards,
Joel
« Last Edit: May 30, 2020, 05:32:05 AM by frijolee »
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

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Offline fastfalcon94

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #146 on: June 01, 2020, 04:10:11 PM »
So for the bump steer... it seems like the goal is to raise the rack and make the tie rod ends lower? With my Samberg setup and 17" enkei rpf1s, the current tie rod extension nuts are as close to the inside of the wheel as possible. As-is I had to take an angle grinder to the corner of the nut. So even if I ordered your bump steer kit the tie rod extensions wouldn't really help me unless I got larger wheels. But I think raising the rack a little would (maybe not perfect, but better). I know the positive stud on the alternator is close to the rack return line, but I think there is a little room to go higher. When I order the new subframe could I buy a few steering rack shims too?




Offline frijolee

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #147 on: June 01, 2020, 04:49:34 PM »
So for the bump steer... it seems like the goal is to raise the rack and make the tie rod ends lower? 
...
When I order the new subframe could I buy a few steering rack shims too?

We want the rack as high as we can while still clearing everything well (generally I think that 1/8 to 3/16" clear is a reasonable).  I want to be a little careful about referring to "raising the rack." All possible Ronin rack positions are lower than stock, we add shims to minimize how much rack lowering is required.  However, we felt this was where the engine needed to be.  The only alternative is to be like Sikky and drive the engine higher and even further aft, but then we force folks to do a great deal of clearancing.  In retrospect, I have to give to Sikky props for clever marketing, but at the end of the day, it's doesn't fit right, and weren't going to go there.  I had to laugh when I realized that Sikky oil pan isn't appreciably thinner than the F-body--at least at the point we care about--but of course either pan still has to clear the crank.

Anyways... all bump steer correction needed results from lowering the tie rods pivot position.  We want it lower to adjust for the factory bump steer.  Side note, I do wonder if Mazda's wheel fitment on 16s was part of why factory bump steer exists.  We need to lower the ball joints further yet to compensate for the rack being lower and it's not a 1:1 move (which is where we think Samberg went wrong).  You'll want to dial it in via test but it's closer to 1.5:1 with the ball joints needing to move ~3/16" for every 1/8" rack move.

The Speedway motors nut is a jam height nyloc so that should help a bit vs. Samberg's castle nut.  That said, you may want to consider jumping into 18s next time you need tires.  I seem to recall RPF1s having a pretty small barrel for a 17 as well.

Shims...  These are dirt simple, so I'd suggest you make your own to be cost effective.  Flat bar with a couple sloppy holes would work fine.  Hell, you could get away with a couple washers under Samberg's aluminum block.  If you need them we can talk, but for tiny add-ons like this I always feel like we have to charge more than they're worth given the cost of time and handholding to make custom requests happen.  We will likely offer some subsets of the steering kit as well, but probably not broken down the level of individual shims.

-Joel
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

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Offline braintumor

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #148 on: June 06, 2020, 07:14:12 PM »

Need to identify a test car so I don't have an ETA yet.  Want to be the guy?  We have a candidate we're talking to about 20Bs.

I would love to be the test guy, FD and 1JZ with rear sump swap just sitting, waiting for a subframe option.....sadly its sitting in Phoenix not Cali  :(

so I guess I will have to get the unwelded mount subframe......free shipping option still available on this?

Offline frijolee

Re: FD LSx swap subframe - RONIN's design
« Reply #149 on: June 09, 2020, 06:23:31 PM »
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I would love to be the test guy, FD and 1JZ with rear sump swap just sitting, waiting for a subframe option.....sadly its sitting in Phoenix not Cali  :(

so I guess I will have to get the unwelded mount subframe......free shipping option still available on this?

We'd still be glad to talk to you as you do the swap.  Free shipping offers have all been taken.  We wanted to celebrate the launch but we have too much time invested in these to do it for everyone unfortunately.

LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)