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Offline zbrown

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #345 on: November 12, 2012, 12:24:15 PM »
he realizes that.....


he had a frowny face because he has sufficient line size yet problems....
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Offline spacevomit

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #346 on: November 12, 2012, 12:31:27 PM »
Of course..    Obviously I just learned about how that works...  :yay:.. I'll just wait quietly..for the pic.

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Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #347 on: November 13, 2012, 09:15:01 PM »
I haven't been able to take a new pic but here is an old one that shows the drain line. Tell me what you think.


Offline Sho Amo

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #348 on: November 13, 2012, 09:33:27 PM »
Was this turbo new?

I am also curious why you are using 4 fittings instead of 2.
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Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #349 on: November 13, 2012, 10:04:17 PM »
Yes turbo is brand new.

The reason I am using more fittings is because the -12 AN would not fit between the turbo but the -10 would.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #350 on: November 13, 2012, 10:18:05 PM »
Do you have sufficient crankcase ventilation?
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Offline zbrown

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #351 on: November 13, 2012, 10:23:33 PM »
looks like he is just vented to the atmosphere with



personally if it was me i would unhook the drain the from the pan, stick it in a bucket and start the car and see if it has issues like that


also this is just a stock 5.3 right? no crazy oil pressure mods or something right?


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Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #352 on: November 13, 2012, 10:59:55 PM »
Yea man - all stock 5.3L - nothing crazy.

I have been doing some research and I have discovered a few things, as much as I can understand.

There are a lot of people on various forums using smog pumps for crankcase pressure to somewhat of a success. And by looking at some aftermarket vacuum pumps - to me they look like glorified smog pumps - same design/ look - at least from the outside.

Some other folks are using electrical pumps - specifically a gm type found in many cars like corvette, camaro, GMC, etc. Hell one company is buying them from GM - removing the stickers, adding a plastic tank and selling them as their own product. When I saw it in the catalog today I couldn't believe my eyes.

 However, they are not continuous duty so they are no good to me. I guess they work ok for a few minutes at the drag strip. They work better to suck moisture and stuff for people running alcohol. Sarcastically the moisture kills them much faster.

Anyways, I went to the junkyard today and got an actual vacuum pump from an older model 7.3L Powerstroke engine. I have not been able to get official info but from the forums online they can pull 21-25 in Hg which in my opinion is pretty good. I think 7 - 13 in Hg is necessary for our engines - correct me if I am wrong.



Now it's a matter of finding/ making some pulleys with the correct ratios and trying it out.

I also ordered a Moroso vacuum relief to install in one of my valve covers since I already have a -12 An bung welded on there.

If you guys have any info/ opinions it would be great help.


Another thing - the vacuum pumps online are measured in CFM - I guess thats how much air are displacing but i do not know how to relate it to the "In Hg."
« Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 11:06:20 PM by WannaBeFast »

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Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #353 on: November 13, 2012, 11:46:59 PM »
Before you go solving a problem, it's good to try and figure out what's causing it.   :yay:

Do what Zac said and see what happens. 
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Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #354 on: November 13, 2012, 11:51:52 PM »
Well - we hooked up a shop vac in one of the breather lines - plugged the other one and the smoke stopped immediately.

Offline slinky

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #355 on: November 14, 2012, 04:33:06 AM »
this is dope! also curious on the carb used, considering doing this blow through style on my fb
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Offline spacevomit

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #356 on: November 14, 2012, 06:39:41 AM »
Interesting. Anyway, vacuum measured inHg (inches of mercury), can be converted to, say, psi (1 inHg is about .5 psi), but CFM measures rate of flow, as opposed to vacuum. But I think you should take another picture of the drain, so you can see the whole line, you could hang a plumb bob or weight on a string in the pic, so that you can have a reference for the angle of the drain. Have you seen an oil drain sump tank before? Seems like a less than ideal drain angle can easily cause this.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2012, 06:48:08 AM by spacevomit »

Offline zbrown

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #357 on: November 14, 2012, 09:07:33 AM »
You shouldn't need anything at all, there is something goofy, whether it is a faulty new turbo or a return issue

I wouldn't go through the work to run that particular pump, they are low volume,  it is used just for brakes, hvac, cruise, ect

My 2 cents
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Offline zbrown

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #358 on: November 14, 2012, 09:16:12 AM »
Dont get me wrong, it may move enough to keep up with the blowby of a tight stock motor,   it wouldnt keep up with motor that is a little loose though
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Offline spacevomit

Re: 1990 Vert 5.3L Turbo/ 200R4 Trans/ 8.8 Ladder Bars, w/Start Up Vid.
« Reply #359 on: November 14, 2012, 10:34:24 AM »
Maybe this is an aggravating factor: apparently, when the vehicle is moving, at least above a certain speed, a proper open vent setup does benefit from vaccuum. This is what they did before emissions controls, a "road draft tube".