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Offline Spec C

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2015, 01:52:26 PM »
Been lifting for a long time.  I compete in raw powerlifting, and just did a meet last weekend.  Squatted 617 benched 418 and Deadlifted 633(locked out 644 but got called for hitching).  Weighed in at 197.6lb

I also coach/do nutritional consulting so I am pretty immersed in the "gym life" heh

Good to see some others are interested in this hobby.

Lets hear some more stats and milestones.  I love to see how I compare to others . :popcorn:
First time pulling 405 a few months ago.   I've sense switched to sumo and have kept improving.

Nice work, but lose the gloves and straps heh.

Offline paul_3rdgen

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2015, 02:07:07 PM »
Shoulder is getting better.... No tear, just sprained/over extended.... Hurts like a bitch, and I can't lift even half my regular weight.   Still training two to three times a week but more legs and abs and some light upper body.   Recent pic.  Not bad for 39 years old I think.  198lbs right now. 
93 RX7 R1 500rwhp
LS2, H/C combo... ARE drysump
Race Logic traction Control and 4 wheel Stoptech BBK
3.73 gears installed in the stock diff  :o

Offline Spec C

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2015, 02:26:09 PM »
Nice work.

Are you doing anything to rehab that shoulder, or just rest right now? 

Offline paul_3rdgen

Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2015, 02:37:52 PM »
Thanks.  I'm resting more and doing acupuncture twice a week.

Any suggestions? Or miracle pills.  Lol
93 RX7 R1 500rwhp
LS2, H/C combo... ARE drysump
Race Logic traction Control and 4 wheel Stoptech BBK
3.73 gears installed in the stock diff  :o

Offline Spec C

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2015, 03:03:57 PM »
Thanks.  I'm resting more and doing acupuncture twice a week.

Any suggestions? Or miracle pills.  Lol
What exactly hurts? Raising your arm out in front of you? Or is it a rotational(internal/external) thing?

If you don't do any shoulder mobility work, I would start there.  Especially after injury things start to tighten up in there.  Donnie Thompson has some great videos for shoulder health/mobility on youtube.

Getting a small pvc pipe, light resistance band( prefer a band), or broom stick and doing "over and backs" a couple times a day(for now), trying to (very, very slowly, over time) trying to work your hands in slightly, is also something I would likely incorporate pending it doesn't cause extreme discomfort with your current "issue" Just start  wide.


I can't see your upper back/scapular development, but often times people do MUCH more pressing than pulling and end up with shoulders that are rounded forward, leaving them vulnerable.  Hammering the upper back, and doing scapular retraction movements will help counteract this. I suffered from this when I first transitioned to Powerlifting, and added some form of upper back work to every single workout, which brought my upper back up, fixed my posture, and improved shoulder health.  Stuff like inverted rows() you can weight these as you get stronger, band pull aparts(
), scapular retractions on a seated cable row, low row, or whatever you can find()

If you have access to someone who does ART in your area that could help as well.  Us lifters tend to have issues with the infra/supraspinatus which leads to shoulder issues.

As far as miracle pills... I am not sure the legality(they are legal/grey area here in the states) of getting peptides up there, or shipped to you but research BPC-157 and TB-500.  These can be highly effective for healing and anti-inflamatory. Just be mindful of finding a good supplier.

Lastly, and quite possibly most importantly, make sure you are getting into an optimal position to protect the shoulders on any movement that leaves them vulnerable.  This would include retracting your scapula(think pinching a pencil between your shoulder blades), and then pulling them down(think shoulder blades in your back pockets).  This is extremely important on the bench press, overhead pressing, even things like pullups, and rowing movements. 

Failure to do this properly is much of the reason people have so many issues with their shoulders on the bench for example.  It is MUCH more technical than laying down on the bench and pressing.  You really have to get your shoulders back and down.

Sorry for the novel, but hope that helps some-

Offline babillaracing

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2015, 04:01:33 PM »
Thank you sir for this info, i am going to put it in practice



Thanks.  I'm resting more and doing acupuncture twice a week.

Any suggestions? Or miracle pills.  Lol
What exactly hurts? Raising your arm out in front of you? Or is it a rotational(internal/external) thing?

If you don't do any shoulder mobility work, I would start there.  Especially after injury things start to tighten up in there.  Donnie Thompson has some great videos for shoulder health/mobility on youtube.

Getting a small pvc pipe, light resistance band( prefer a band), or broom stick and doing "over and backs" a couple times a day(for now), trying to (very, very slowly, over time) trying to work your hands in slightly, is also something I would likely incorporate pending it doesn't cause extreme discomfort with your current "issue" Just start  wide.


I can't see your upper back/scapular development, but often times people do MUCH more pressing than pulling and end up with shoulders that are rounded forward, leaving them vulnerable.  Hammering the upper back, and doing scapular retraction movements will help counteract this. I suffered from this when I first transitioned to Powerlifting, and added some form of upper back work to every single workout, which brought my upper back up, fixed my posture, and improved shoulder health.  Stuff like inverted rows() you can weight these as you get stronger, band pull aparts(
), scapular retractions on a seated cable row, low row, or whatever you can find()

If you have access to someone who does ART in your area that could help as well.  Us lifters tend to have issues with the infra/supraspinatus which leads to shoulder issues.

As far as miracle pills... I am not sure the legality(they are legal/grey area here in the states) of getting peptides up there, or shipped to you but research BPC-157 and TB-500.  These can be highly effective for healing and anti-inflamatory. Just be mindful of finding a good supplier.

Lastly, and quite possibly most importantly, make sure you are getting into an optimal position to protect the shoulders on any movement that leaves them vulnerable.  This would include retracting your scapula(think pinching a pencil between your shoulder blades), and then pulling them down(think shoulder blades in your back pockets).  This is extremely important on the bench press, overhead pressing, even things like pullups, and rowing movements. 

Failure to do this properly is much of the reason people have so many issues with their shoulders on the bench for example.  It is MUCH more technical than laying down on the bench and pressing.  You really have to get your shoulders back and down.

Sorry for the novel, but hope that helps some-

Offline paul_3rdgen

Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2015, 04:11:03 PM »
Thank you very much!  I will try my best to follow your advice. 
I will try to get my wife to take a pic of my upper back and traps.... I'm pretty sure I have them balanced out, I really try to work most parts of my body equally. 
« Last Edit: March 05, 2015, 04:16:36 PM by paul_3rdgen »
93 RX7 R1 500rwhp
LS2, H/C combo... ARE drysump
Race Logic traction Control and 4 wheel Stoptech BBK
3.73 gears installed in the stock diff  :o

Offline Spec C

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2015, 04:26:36 PM »
No worries.

Here's basically what I do before my upper body workouts to get the shoulders ready. Takes just a few minutes. This with some additional internal/external rotation work before squatting will do wonders.
 http://youtu.be/u_fTNQXNZqc

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Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2015, 05:54:04 PM »
You know that's really great advise. I didn't understand the idea of keeping my shoulders back during movements until a few years after starting lifting! I tore my rotator as a result. The last couple years though I've been aware of it and let me tell it was the REASON I wasn't growing.
On bench for example , I pinch the shoulders back and down and before I un-rack I pull the chest up, tighten the Abs down. After unracking I have to the "breaking at the upper back" then press up bring the elbows together keeping the shoulders back.
The idea of "shoulders back, chest out, abs tight" literally changed my training on every body part and helped me get up to a relatively lean 260lbs....with absolutely 0 shoulder pain.
Great point you make there!

Offline zbrown

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2015, 08:18:33 PM »
Interesting stuff on the shoulders, thanks


Im interested to investigate that tonight at the gym
8.50/165



Offline ProjectD

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2015, 08:43:38 PM »

Been lifting for a long time.  I compete in raw powerlifting, and just did a meet last weekend.  Squatted 617 benched 418 and Deadlifted 633(locked out 644 but got called for hitching).  Weighed in at 197.6lb

I also coach/do nutritional consulting so I am pretty immersed in the "gym life" heh

Good to see some others are interested in this hobby.

Lets hear some more stats and milestones.  I love to see how I compare to others . :popcorn:
First time pulling 405 a few months ago.   I've sense switched to sumo and have kept improving.

Nice work, but lose the gloves and straps heh.
Lol. I've sense ditched the gloves in favor of man hands. I still use straps when pulling over 400lbs though.

Offline Spec C

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2015, 09:25:18 PM »
Interesting stuff on the shoulders, thanks


Im interested to investigate that tonight at the gym
This even applies on say something like standing bicep curls. Retract your scapula, lock in your shoulders, and it will take the shoulders out of the movement.  You will feel your front delts wont get tired like if you don't retract the shoulders.  Less of a safety issue here, but you get more out of the biceps.

Being able to hold that position on the bench will take time, and practice.  So it will feel weird at first. A lot of it is getting your setup dialed in. You want to be almost up on your traps when you bench to create stability.

Decent explanation at the beginning of this video.
http://youtu.be/SgCX4Sm5Gm0?t=53s

I could go on, and on..lol  The bench is much more technical than most think.

Lol. I've sense ditched the gloves in favor of man hands. I still use straps when pulling over 400lbs though.
You're half way there! haha  Get some chalk, or use a mixed grip(or hook grip if you want to stay double overhand)


Offline ProjectD

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2015, 09:35:06 PM »
I've been seriously considering joining a local weightlifting club so the sooner I switch to a hook grip the better. I just gotta stop being a sissy. 

Offline Spec C

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2015, 09:43:58 PM »
I've been seriously considering joining a local weightlifting club so the sooner I switch to a hook grip the better. I just gotta stop being a sissy.
I am not going to lie, I am a bitch with hook grip. It HURTS like hell. I have pulled 500 hook grip, and good lord, it hurt. I will stick to mixed grip. hah



Offline zbrown

Re: Any Gym rats here??
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2015, 09:56:23 PM »
Thanks spec C. Appreciate it, good advice is win


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