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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2850 on: August 21, 2023, 12:18:02 PM »
that would be sweet to have it done also so you can work on the Aston :)     We ended up not going up to Ft Wayne (Albion IN) this weekend.  My father in-law came here instead.  I'll be in that area sept 16-17th dropping my dogs off at the in-laws before we go on vacation.  If it works for both of us I may see if I can swing by to see your cars. 
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2851 on: August 21, 2023, 01:03:50 PM »
I have a surprise party for my wife on the 16th, but I'm clear beyond that.   At least by then my garage should be slightly cleaner.   :D

Fun fact:  If you stuff a rag in the oil level check in an oil pan (where I return oil from the turbos to), it'll eventually soak itself, then capillary action will drain about a gallon and a half (GT500 pan holds like 2.25 gallons) of oil on your floor.   Fun fact #2:  My garage floor drains in random direction and I have pools of Royal Purple all over the place.   That was expensive.  Next time I'll put a damn plug on the port...
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2852 on: August 21, 2023, 01:20:37 PM »
What the heck 😭

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2853 on: August 21, 2023, 01:35:54 PM »
haha. oh man. that sucks lol
1995 RX-7 Voodoo Blue- LS3, TR6060: Full Feed wide body, 57DR 18's, K-Sport coil-overs, 99 spec\ tails and Carbon Fiber spoiler, SpeedHut Gauges, Aeromotive fuel system, TwinZ Diffuser, Texas Speed LS3 Stage 2 v2 Cam Kit, Comp Cam's Rockers, McLeod Racing 6405507M RXT Street Twin Clutch kit, ATI-1918628 - Super Damper/balancer, Lot's of other stuff.
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2854 on: August 25, 2023, 04:17:12 PM »
I have a surprise party for my wife on the 16th, but I'm clear beyond that.   At least by then my garage should be slightly cleaner.   :D

Fun fact:  If you stuff a rag in the oil level check in an oil pan (where I return oil from the turbos to), it'll eventually soak itself, then capillary action will drain about a gallon and a half (GT500 pan holds like 2.25 gallons) of oil on your floor.   Fun fact #2:  My garage floor drains in random direction and I have pools of Royal Purple all over the place.   That was expensive.  Next time I'll put a damn plug on the port...

so you're telling us that your wife doesnt read your build threads
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2855 on: August 25, 2023, 09:57:23 PM »
so you're telling us that your wife doesnt read your build threads

Me still being married should tell you that.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2856 on: August 28, 2023, 10:34:23 AM »
Progress this weekend!

Steering, turbos, oiling system, exhaust, A/C, fuel system and alternator are back in.

Next is reinstalling the cooling system, driveshaft, shifter, interior, and then redoing the charge pipes, skid plate and strut brace.  Then fluids + alignment and it should be good to go.  Man, I hope it's good to go.  LOL
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2857 on: August 28, 2023, 11:58:12 AM »
hah sounds like a lot of progress and still a bit to do!   
1995 RX-7 Voodoo Blue- LS3, TR6060: Full Feed wide body, 57DR 18's, K-Sport coil-overs, 99 spec\ tails and Carbon Fiber spoiler, SpeedHut Gauges, Aeromotive fuel system, TwinZ Diffuser, Texas Speed LS3 Stage 2 v2 Cam Kit, Comp Cam's Rockers, McLeod Racing 6405507M RXT Street Twin Clutch kit, ATI-1918628 - Super Damper/balancer, Lot's of other stuff.
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2858 on: September 04, 2023, 06:13:46 PM »
Okay, car is mostly back together.  Able to start it anyway!

It runs like... crap, but I have a lot of things to go over before that means much.  I do have a leaky upper AN radiator hose fitting, and I think my oil level back feeds the pump and cause some leaking.   I ordered new fittings to rebuild the AN hose with nicer parts (it's cheap stuff now, ordered Vibrant), and I ordered a Radium check valve to put line in the scavenge outlet to try and resolve the backfeeding issue.

Progress!

This week/next weekend I'll swap those parts in, and start redoing the charge pipe on the hot side, and put the interior back together.   Getting there...
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2859 on: September 07, 2023, 09:56:21 PM »
Upper radiator hose is fixed, no more leak there.   Parts are in for the oil feed line, just have to figure out where to put the check valve at in the return line.

I need to pin out my coil packs as I think I have 2 cylinders flipped.   I might yank the injectors and clean them as well, just to make sure everything is copacetic.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline kinger

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2860 on: September 08, 2023, 12:03:20 PM »
Upper radiator hose is fixed, no more leak there.   Parts are in for the oil feed line, just have to figure out where to put the check valve at in the return line.

I need to pin out my coil packs as I think I have 2 cylinders flipped.   I might yank the injectors and clean them as well, just to make sure everything is copacetic.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2861 on: September 10, 2023, 10:17:47 AM »
Made more progress yesterday.

Car was only running on one bank (EGTs are great for sorting which cylinders are running).  Couldn't figure out what was wrong, but after some poking I found that if I unplugged the passenger bank cam solenoids it picked the bank back up.

More reading showed that the passenger bank cam solenoid settings in the ECU were wrong, so it was maxing out the cam timing and causing it to run like crap.  No clue how it got wrong, but something must have happened in the tune migration from the Elite to the Nexus.  Weird.  I need to put the updated tune in the car to sanity check, but I'm sure that's what was causing it.

I also found a few more bugs in the tune, also from the Elite -> Nexus migration, and changed my approach for tuning on "ignition on" inputs in the PDMs to what should be a slightly better strategy.   I also got the clutch bled and checked that it works.

The problem currently is that my oil scavenging is still not working well.  I ran the pump and checked my sump tank and it was still full.  I pulled the pump out of the car and pumped some coolant with it and it works fantastic, so I don't think the pump itself is the issue.   I also sanity checked that it can prime itself from above the fluid level (it's only about 2" above the bottom of the fluid level).   My going theory now is that the it's basically trying to draw a vacuum right now as the sump tank is not vented, and it can't do so effectively with this layout.   So I'm going to re-instate my vent, along with adjusting the layout of the lines slightly.

If I can get the oiling issue sorted out, I just need to build the charge pipe (which is a PITA to get past the A/C lines, etc), and align the suspension and it should be ready to drive.  I need to get the car sorted out enough to make a 30 minute drive to store it at a friends house before the weather gets too bad out (so December, really).  I need the shop lift bay to get the Aston torn apart.   Plus I really want to drive the thing to make sure that all of these modifications actually show some improvement for my time/money!
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2862 on: September 16, 2023, 11:13:04 AM »
The turbo oil scavenge system is super annoying.  So help me, one of these days I'm either doing Comp oil-less turbos, or just putting headers on the damn thing.

Anyway, here's version.. I don't know, 10?  11?   We'll see if this one works.  :D



I should have a chance to fire it up tonight or tomorrow to test my tune fixes for the cam solenoids and see if it will scavenge the oil.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2863 on: September 16, 2023, 05:31:02 PM »
Another shot of the oiling system:



I've honestly been avoiding starting it because I didn't want to know if it didn't work.   But...



That's a "clean" garage floor (clean is a relative term).  Well, it's a garage floor without any oil on it, anyway.   This only ran for 30-40 seconds, but that's much longer than I could go before without dripping.  BONE DRY everywhere in the system.  Hopefully it stays that way.

For reference, here's the setup:

Turbos have little "collectors" I CNC'd under them.  These have a very slight drop of AN10 drains to a collector tank, which is about 1/2 quart of volume.  This has an AN6 vent that runs up to the top of engine bay (I'd like to tie it to the oil fill cap, or my crankcase vent system eventually, but for now it has a little vent on it).   There is also an AN10 line that runs to the scavenge pump (Turbowerx).  This then has an AN10 back to the GT500 oil pan "level check" port, which is under the full oil level.   To prevent drain back, there's a low pressure check valve from Radium on the scavenge pump outlet.

The feed side ties off the remote oil pump housing adapter with an AN4, which runs through a small filter, and then to a Turbosmart turbo oil pressure regulator to drop pressure to 40 psi feeding the turbos.

Here's hoping this continues to work well.  There is ZERO reason it shouldn't, but we shall see.  I -might- still need to add a check valve on the feed side, but it shouldn't be able to drain past the regulator, meaning it's just a small volume of AN4 lines that could drain, and as long as the sump tank below the turbos isn't full, it should be fine.

Also, all the cam solenoid issue is validated as fixed.   Cams are on VCT as they should be, and all 8 cylinders are running fine.

Next up is charge pipes, and a support bracket for the oil sump tank, then bolt check, alignment, and test drive.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline shainiac

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2864 on: September 16, 2023, 09:18:27 PM »
It's a little difficult to seen, but are your CHRAs lower than your pan? Definitely lower than the oil level, right? I'm really hoping my new turbos don't need a scavenge pump, because that doesn't look fun lol
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