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Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #900 on: January 16, 2017, 09:12:44 PM »
Gah, still waiting on head studs.   I like the company I bought it from, but I still show no shipping (Beefcake Racing).    They did right by me last time (hooked me up with an upgraded balancer when MMR hosed them on inventory) so I'm sure it's not their fault (they are MMR head studs).    I'll shoot them an email tomorrow and see if they have an ETA.

I did get everything else basically ready.  I pulled all of the bolts out of the intake manifold anti-crush sleeves, cleaned them and painted them and put in stainless bolts.   Put all stainless bolts in the oil pan (and bought a Mustang pan gasket which has an integrated windage tray!), TIG'd a bung onto the pan (man I love that TIG machine!), knocked out the dent from shipping that was at the front of the pickup "divot" in the pan, painted the pan, and reinstalled it.     I also installed the cleaned up alternator and A/C compressor to make sure they fit/look proper.   All good there so far.

I removed the pop in seals for the valve cover bolts (they're a lot like LS1 perimeter bolt seals), cleaned them up and reinstalled them with stainless bolts as well.   FWIW I was going to just buy a hardware kit for the motor from Ford, but they only offered a 100% kit, of which I only needed half, and still didn't include valve cover or intake manifold bolts.    So I took every bolt out, measured them and ordered from McMaster Carr.    I used 18-8 stainless for all of the low load areas (intake manifold, valve covers, oil pan, front cover (it has like 12 M8 bolts, it's not going anywhere), then bought 10.9 black oxide bolts for the alternator and A/C compressor mounting bolts (and the engine mounts, which are standard on the chassis side, because 1965).

Once the head studs come in, I'll pull everything back off (it's all bolted up for mockup right now), put in the new gaskets/studs, then reinstall/time the cams, and final install it all.  I have all new gaskets for everything.    I also have the -10 conversions for the heater hoses in place (need to seal them to the block/water pump still) and the fuel rails on.

Oh, and I had a couple areas where the steering shaft runs very close to the block and the "wide" areas where the set screws lock the steering u joints in were within 1/8" of the block or turbo compressor.    I mocked that all up, torqued the set screws then pulled it apart and TIG'd it together, so no more set screws needed.   It's 3/4" DD shaft and Flaming River forged, low profile rebuildable u joints.    So the nice thing is the TIG welds only have to retain the DD shaft in place.   That said I fully welded them, so you can probably hang the car from the joints and it won't go anywhere.   Steering seems important, so.   At any rate, that will give me even more clearance.

Finally, I went ahead and TIG'd the other "up pipe" to the exhaust manifold.   Since I modified these manifolds to fit the up pipe flanges, there wasn't a lot of good options for gaskets and without sending it to have it machine ground true, it would be a stretch to use gasket maker in place, and I don't like graphite gaskets pre-turbo since they tend to blow out.   Since the manifold is bolted first (and fully torqued) to the up pipe, THEN TIG'd, the TIG is there mostly to seal it up.    I pre-heated everything to 400*, then did two passes with stainless wire, making sure to flow it all out pretty wide on the second pass.    I cooled it slowly (hit it with the torch for a bit as it cooled, every few minutes.   I waited a day, hit it with the ballpeen a bit and then inspected it.   I cannot visually find any cracks, so it seems to be alright.    FWIW they were brand new cast manifolds from Ford and brand new stainless flanges, so I'm sure that helped.   They actually welded pretty nicely, it flowed about like the stainless did.   I then TIG'd the bolts into place (fully welded the heads and the end of the bolt where it came through the manifold).    I have them mocked up on the engine with the Stage 8 stainless fasteners now.

Once ALL of this crap is done I think I'll be pretty happy with the engine, appearance and build wise.   I need to TIG a cracked bracket back onto the transmission (where the driver side shifter support sits) and then it's ready.

Ah, yes.   I modified my shifter to fit the chassis right.  And now it's in the way of the driveshaft because of the stupid flanged output on the TR6060.   I can't find a way to convert the TR6060, so I think I'm going to buy an MGW shifter for it, as that raises it up a bit.   It also moves it back a bit more than 2" from my current location, so I have to see what that does to my parking brake and transmission tunnel.    This will be shifter number 3.   Yay.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #901 on: January 18, 2017, 07:25:40 PM »
Coyote much less ugly:







This is mostly just mocked up (there is no timing system or head studs in it, just some old head bolts in finger tight).    I'm going to bag it up out of harms way for now and get back to body/suspension work.   I need to weld up a bunch of stuff underneath, and the adjusted steering rack, then start doing final prep for paint.   I've got a side job to do in between, so it'll probably chill like this for a few months.

Edit:   Gah, those pictures suck.  I should really get my SLR out and use that instead of my phone.   It doesn't like the super bright shop lighting much.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline spacevomit

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #902 on: January 18, 2017, 08:07:45 PM »
Put the 48-bolt damper on! :poke:

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #903 on: January 18, 2017, 10:24:38 PM »
I can't, it presses on and I'd rather not install it just to look at.  :)   Once the timing set is installed it'll go together for good and get installed.  I have a hardened allthread to install it with.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline freeskier7791

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #904 on: January 19, 2017, 10:11:53 AM »
Nice motor, I hate how you really won't see any blue though the heads and timing cover are so big
https://www.youtube.com/thedriftingdad
1985 Mazda RX7 GSL Drift Car

CCVT

Offline Tictakman

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #905 on: January 19, 2017, 07:17:11 PM »
Looks nice and compact.  What On3 turbos are those again?  Do you think they would mount in a similar location in a LS FD?  I was going to give that a go for my next build.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #906 on: January 19, 2017, 09:07:32 PM »
Thanks guys.

They're GT35R knockoffs (as in Garrett CHRA will bolt in place, which is part of why I got them, if they don't hold up, I'll put in Garrett pieces).

I cannot believe they'll fit there on an FD, not enough room.    You'd have to go forward like Nick/Bryan's cars have them.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline Tictakman

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #907 on: January 20, 2017, 11:10:34 AM »
Ok cool, ive done that forward setup like Bryan and Nick already so I might just have to do it again.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #908 on: January 29, 2017, 10:25:24 AM »
Been working on the electronics project for a bit, so no progress on the car, might go do some work today.

Kicking around redesigning the radiator/intercooler layout;   I have to add a front swaybar and I think I'm going to stab it through the framerails so that I can use a tube to mount it, which will add one more tie point between the frame rails and let me brace stuff a bit more.    If I add that swaybar, I might add a tilt to my radiator/condenser and pull the intercooler back to the other side of the front core support (engine bay side), which will allow me to run a 3" inlet/outlet intercooler (2.5" is all that fits where I'm setup now).   I'm not sure if I want to dick with that or not.

Right now I need to finish the undercarriage work.   I have to adjust the shifter location and tweak the parking brake a bit (hopefully only a bit) to adjust for the new (MGW) shifter, which is needed to clear the transmission and its stupid flanged outlet.   Oy.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #909 on: January 30, 2017, 10:25:28 AM »
Spent a few hours working on the floorpan yesterday.   The previous owner had put a new floor in the car, but left the stock tunnel (which was not rusted) and then lapped them over each other.   Not a big deal, but he did a shit job of welding (that was a theme with his work) so I worked the seam properly and then welded the whole seam and ground it back, then seam sealed the edges to assure that it was sealed up well.   I finished the driver side yesterday, going to do the passenger side sometime this week.   Then I can bend up the fuel/brake lines and put in the rivnuts to mount them all up, then drop it all back apart underneath and put on the bedliner to seal it all up.

I have some embossed aluminum to form around the transmission area to keep the turbo/tranny heat out of the interior (and protect all the things from the other things) that I need to get built and make some brackets for also.    Once that's all finished up, that should finish out the undercarriage aft of the engine bay.    The engine bay needs the swaybar installed, a few holes welded up and then I need to figure out if I want to redo the intercooler/radiator stack.  I already know that I probably do, we shall see.   I'll probably stab the motor back in for that part, as well as sorting out the MGW shifter mounting.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #910 on: February 01, 2017, 12:38:19 AM »
Picked up a gauge bezel and modified it to fit the Speedhut gauges from the FC.   I'll be building a Rally Pac (yay 3D printer) for the oil temp and fuel pressure gauges as well.









I'll build a new harness for it all, and print up some LED light holders for the stock turn indicators (and probably add some low profile LEDs/holders for brights and SES).   I'll plan to add some 3d printed wire management to the back also.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #911 on: February 02, 2017, 01:32:04 AM »
So I built some wire holders and LED bulb holders (For the signals) for the cluster, but the main thing I played with tonight was this:



Custom Rally Pac rendered in Fusion 360.   I'll print it shortly for mockup.  :)   The "FORD" text will probably get removed or tweaked a bit.   You can't see it in the render but there's a 5/16" passage that runs between the gauge pods and out the back of the center support to run the wires out of.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline freeskier7791

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #912 on: February 02, 2017, 12:20:51 PM »
Nice job on the rally pac,  what are you plans on finishing it after your print it?
https://www.youtube.com/thedriftingdad
1985 Mazda RX7 GSL Drift Car

CCVT

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #913 on: February 02, 2017, 01:24:27 PM »
I'll hit them with SEM texture paint and SEM black interior paint so that it looks like a stock part.   :)
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline willcoop

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #914 on: February 02, 2017, 03:33:01 PM »
I'll hit them with SEM texture paint and SEM black interior paint so that it looks like a stock part.   :)

A coworker just found this for coating printed parts. It leaves a very nice finish.

https://www.smooth-on.com/product-line/xtc-3d/