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Offline spacevomit

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2014, 01:05:25 PM »
Can't make her too stiff!

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2014, 01:39:25 PM »
Is that door latch NHRA approved?  :D

LOL.   The PO did that when we put it on the trailer to keep the doors closed.   I actually spent about an hour last night tweaking door alignment and got it close.. then put the latch in and it pulls the door down.   Gotta go buy the right size bit to get it loose as it's been in place for 50 years and isn't keen on being relocated.

How did you address the leaded joints?  If I ever get around to building my Cutlass, I'll be in the same boat, as both front and rear pillars are leaded. 

Well, so far I got a bunch of lead all over my MIG torch, LOL.   I only had a small area that I got into, I'll probably just clean up around it, fill it with All-Metal and call it good.   It's not structural.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2014, 01:39:52 PM »
Can't make her too stiff!

That's what she said!
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2014, 08:47:56 AM »
So I spent some time playing with the door gaps again last night.   I made a tool out of a #4 screwdriver and a 10mm socket to get the striker bolts out (well, 3 out of 4...  one is going to have to die.   Current plan is to weld a nut to it and see if I can get it that way, turns out 50 years in place can convince a screw it doesn't want to move).    Driver's side door was miles off before, at least 5/8" gap at the top and 3/8 at the bottom along the 1/4 reveal.   I have the top half at 1/8" now and the bottom is flush, so I'll have to open that up.   The top section was just flat out stamped wrong where it meets the 1/4 near the glass.   1/2" gap even with the rest of the door aligned, so I pie cut that and will fit it and metal work it to get the alignment right.  Nothing too major.

The biggest issue with the door is the bottom of the Mustang "C" body detail in the door/quarter panel.  It's at least 1/4" low while the rest of the door (including the top of the "C") lines up correctly.  Stamping issue again.  Oy.   Going to have to slice it back 6-8" and move the metal around to get it in place.   Yay aftermarket crap.    Also going to get some 1/8" TIG rod to work the front fender/door gaps as well as fender/cowl and the decklid/quarter gaps, as those are absolutely terrible (at least 1/4" everywhere, not sure WTF the deal is there).

On a positive note, my metalworking skills are improving daily, haha.   Get lots of practice when you're this anal about gaps and have a 50 year old car with 4 manufacturers replacement parts and panels that were previously installed by a possibly blind man welding with a coat hanger and a car battery...

Oh, one other design I think I've finalized.   The front suspension normally has braces that tie to the firewall for support.   Since I'm cutting off the factory strut towers/suspension for Mustang II based stuff, I lose that support.   Sooooo, I'm going to take some .063 wall 1.5" round tube and run stringers down to the front subframe just fore/aft of the factory strut tower locations and connect them to each other and a piece of plate on the firewall/cowl.   I'm going to set them into the inner fender aprons and stitch weld it all together.   I also plan to put a couple of reinforced tubes in near the factory pickups for the firewall support and tie those into the stock cowl/firewall support area to triangulate it all.   I figure more bracing is more better up front.   I may add a tie bar from front subframe and the new stringers into the torque boxes as well.     I looked at adding convertible inner rockers, but I think I'm just going to do subframe connectors and then add boxes (jacking rails) to the pinch welds on the rockers and then run stringers between them to solidfy it all.

Best part about all of these projects is they only cost a few dollars, but the results should be dramatic.   I want 0 creaks/groans out of this chassis when it's done.

POR-15 is in place in driver side hinge pillar/dash area also.   I'll get some pictures of all this tonight...
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline spacevomit

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #94 on: November 04, 2014, 09:24:33 AM »
 :popcorn:

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #95 on: November 04, 2014, 08:04:31 PM »
Blake...IDEA!


Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #96 on: November 04, 2014, 08:10:28 PM »
Yeah, no.
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1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #98 on: November 04, 2014, 10:56:29 PM »
Oh, it's crazy and kinda neat, but it's just not my style.   I'd totally drive it though.  :D

So, today I did some work on the driver's side door gap.

Top was WAY off in the stamping, so I had to pie cut it and fill it:



Mo' bettah:



Still have to fix the alignment of the door "C" cutout (is there a proper name for that body line?) as the bottom is JACKED up in the stamping, but the rest of it is really close.   Once I mud/prime/paint it should be pretty darn good, better than stock anyway.



Looking at that picture reminds me that I don't like the door locks.   They look tacked on to me so they are gonna go bye bye.   It'll have power door locks anyway.   I'm kicking around the idea of having the door handles/bumpers/other small chrome bits on the car done in brushed nickel instead of chrome.   I'm not a big chrome guy, but I need something to contrast beyond just everything painted one color.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline quinns

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2014, 01:53:21 AM »
Man was that ever a great door skin. You got more ambition than me I'd be looking for a new door haha. Leaded joints are fun. Last car I helped on we did a rear 1/4 that went right up to a lead joint. Removed all that and just welded and all metal'd it.
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Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2014, 11:41:42 AM »
Yeah, I'm pretty annoyed at the "c" misalignment.    The edge alignment wasn't really that bad, beyond that the top.    I am still formulating the plan of attack for the "c" issue though.

I considered a new door, but I'd really need a stock one to make it worthwhile.  All of the aftermarket I have found pretty well blows from what I've seen.  I know all of my panels I've received so far fit like garbage and half of them are Dynacorn!    I really wanted to learn/refine some metalworking skills, so this is at least useful as far as that goes.   I'm just working my way around the whole car and dialing gaps as I go.   It may not be Chip Foose level stuff when I'm done, but if I can get a good paint job on it, it should look way better than most and be a lot better put together than they ever were back in '65.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2014, 08:40:10 PM »
Dude....this is impressive, I'll have to come over and check it out!

Offline screamin88

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2014, 10:07:52 AM »
My uncle has restored a few of these mustangs and he said the aftermarket panels and trim are absolutely horrendous.... Even the expensive stuff blows...


Offline digitalsolo

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2014, 10:23:20 AM »
So I put in the first brace for the firewall/subframe connection...   it looks great.  I measured for coilover clearance and burned in a couple areas, then took a break and sat on the couch....

Then realized I didn't measure for control arm clearance.   Yeah, not gonna fit.   :P

Going to switch to having a hoop made to replace the soon-to-be-gone stock strut towers and tie into the hoop instead of directly to the frame rail.   Should keep the strength I want while keeping more clearance.  As a nice side effect, it should look cooler, too.   I'm going to triangulate to two places on the cowl/firewall as well as run down to the torque boxes.   It will have a tie point to run the "export brace" aka strut tower to cowl brace also, so that I can really tie everything together up front.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline frijolee

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2014, 12:38:13 PM »
Are you taking pictures Blake?  We want to see this stuff so we can all get further bad ideas.   :poke:
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