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Offline wickedrx7

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #210 on: May 11, 2017, 08:47:12 AM »
Looking good Joel! Looks like you have a few projects to work on while on your sabbatical. Oh and if I need edge trim, I know who to call!

1993 Touring, 2012 L99, T-56, Ronnin 8.8, Ohlins, Speedhut, Samberg and lots of custom parts
Build Thread - http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=19354.0
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Offline gc3

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #211 on: May 11, 2017, 10:26:53 AM »
fun stuff!

making good use of your free time, definitely doing it right!

you run a girls bike club too? how many pink bikes do you need?

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #212 on: May 11, 2017, 11:35:48 AM »
... can't wait to play with the auger.

I had some clay so my only hot tip is to sharpen the cutting/scraping edges.  You can tell when it stops digging.  In California, there's a free utilities search called Dig Alert that lets the various players come mark your property so you don't risk hitting something important. 

Looks like you have a few projects to work on while on your sabbatical. Oh and if I need edge trim, I know who to call!

It's actually weird how the to do list has gotten longer.  Bank account is still healthy for now (there was a severance package) so I'd be glad to have another month off.  Don't want much more than that, but still I'm not discontent.  Re edge trim.  I should probably post up what I have so folks can buy a couple feet here and there.  I already used a bit on my rx7 sealing the radiator to the nose.

you run a girls bike club too? how many pink bikes do you need?

Two little girls for me, but our house is a bit of a gathering point for neighborhood kids so extras on hand is helpful.  :halo:  One or two will go away soon.

LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline freeskier7791

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #213 on: May 11, 2017, 11:43:09 AM »
I had some clay so my only hot tip is to sharpen the cutting/scraping edges.  You can tell when it stops digging.  In California, there's a free utilities search called Dig Alert that lets the various players come mark your property so you don't risk hitting something important. 

North Carolina has the same, I will definitely call them up before I go crazy
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Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #214 on: May 11, 2017, 12:07:31 PM »
So somewhere along this point, it's about a month from my office closure.  We decided we'd try NOT to move if we could avoid it.  However that leaves me kicking myself wondering why I'm elbows deep remodeling the back yard when I should be hunting for a job.  Well, I am hunting for a job all along here, but it's not a sole focus. 

Eventually I decide that if all I do is sit in front of a screen and write cover letters I'll go mad and that physical exertion and making something with my hands is good for my head and heart so it's not such a bad move.  Besides, there's still the outside possibility that a new job will require a move and having a finished backyard would be a good call if it came to that.  Same logic for my Land Cruiser.  It's OK to keep working on that, because if I HAD to sell it the investment would pay returns.

Anyways, that mini mountain of dirt above.  That's about half of what I pulled out of my backyard.  The other half was already in the lowboy dumpster I rented.



Pro tip on dumpsters.  I didn't realize how expensive these were.  It's a touch north of $700 for a "mixed load."  However if you're only removing "clean fill dirt" the trash company can sell or re-use it so that dropped my cost to $325.  I tried to post free dirt on craigslist and and got zero bites in a week so I pulled the trigger on the rental.  By the way, there are a LOT of folks posting free dirt on craigslist so if you need some, go there first.

Two evenings and about 6 hours later (ground was already broken up so I was just moving a pile)




Best guess I moved 7 yards of dirt.  Something like 60 wheelbarrow loads (I could do one about every 6 minutes).  I was just happy that I could go shovel for hours and not die.  Apparently I'm still in OK shape.

What might not be obvious from structure pic above is all the weird angles I'm using in this deck.  The area in question is a triangular so the deck needs to bend about 45 and then flare wider as it approach my patio slab.  I also had to get creative with the flange hangers since they're only made to work at 90 degree angles.  Two layers of wood (overlapping) wasn't a good option since I had to dig down whatever thickness of structure I was using.

Here's what I came up with.

1) You start by bending the acute angle on the flange hanger to land flush with whatever joist you're playing with.




2) Start the toe screws so this side is flush as intended (stainless is best for pressure treated lumber, hot dip galvanized is OK, basic Zinc screws will die quickly)




3) The opposite site you have to twist and pull so at least the tip is flush.




4) From there it's not too bad to hammer form the hanger to better meet the obtuse angle and install relatively normally.




I also bough a Kreig mini pocket hole drill fixture.  I'm in love with this thing.




Made short work of some little kickers for lateral support.  Here's one that twisted as it was drying so I fought it back to square during install and figured the stress would relax as it dried further.





So what's all the fuss about?




The joists run RADIALLY as the deck flares.   ;)  Should give it a cool looking screw pattern when I'm done.

-Joel
« Last Edit: May 11, 2017, 12:17:23 PM by frijolee »
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

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Offline freeskier7791

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #215 on: May 11, 2017, 01:07:20 PM »
Deck looks impressive,  are you trying to get it so you don't have much to mow in the back?
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Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #216 on: May 11, 2017, 01:37:07 PM »
Deck looks impressive,  are you trying to get it so you don't have much to mow in the back?

Thanks,

Goals here were mostly low maintenance, not increase my water footprint (since it was still a gnarly drought when I planned all this), and end up with a nice space to hang out whether entertaining or just with family.  The right side of the deck will have a fire pit and chairs with some gravel or river rock to break up the space.  We do have lawn and trees in the other part of the backyard.
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #217 on: May 12, 2017, 03:08:57 AM »
Next step...  Thought twice about having the low spot in the yard be under the deck.  Even with as little rain as So Cal gets and even if I filled the underside with gravel, I was concerned it could turn into a pool.  So I decided to up the complexity and add drains.

It zigzags under the structure.  Three drain points, all sloping downhill (but not by much)












Until eventually it cuts between my planter pools and the RV slab.




This trench was a solid 20 inches deep.  My folks were in town so I recruited them to help.  Thanks Mom and Pop!




Then the real fun, breaking through the block wall.  I refused to be denied but I had about 4 hours into making this hole.




Someone tell me if there's a better way.  The big rental core drill home depot has don't look like they work horizontally and I was just above a curb on the far side (which conveniently is a drainage way).




Anyways, tidied up the result and I think I've done everything I could to keep this happy long term despite the ground level install.



Thoughts?  Total overkill or just about right?
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #218 on: May 12, 2017, 06:56:26 AM »
Aren't "total overkill" and "just right" synonyms?

Looks great, overengineering is the best kind of engineering.
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Offline wickedrx7

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #219 on: May 12, 2017, 08:15:53 AM »
My only question is why didn't you use perforated plastic drain tile on the inlet end under the deck?

1993 Touring, 2012 L99, T-56, Ronnin 8.8, Ohlins, Speedhut, Samberg and lots of custom parts
Build Thread - http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=19354.0
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Offline freeskier7791

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #220 on: May 12, 2017, 08:33:56 AM »
Are you concerned about those drains clogging?
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Offline Cobranut

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #221 on: May 12, 2017, 06:56:54 PM »
I'm with Wicked.  I'd think the perforated drain tile would be less prone to clogs, and cheaper to boot.
Looks like a nice install though.

I recently installed a 30kw standby generator. I borrowed a Dewalt rotary hammer and core bits from work to drill through the brick to run the conduit through. I was expecting it to take a while.  To my surprise, the core drill cut a clean 2-7/8" hole through the brick in about 2 minutes.

Several years ago I had a need to drill 12" deep holes in  some concrete footers, to drive in rebar to tie another footer to it.
I got a huge Milwaukee rotary hammer from our maintenance guys.  I got comfortable in the trench, expecting to be there a while.  Shit, that thing sunk the 1/2" bit 12" deep into the concrete like it was hot butter.   8)

Those little consumer hammer drills are no comparison to a real commercial hammer, but those things are pretty pricey.
1995 FD, 7.0 Liter stroked LS3, T56, 8.8, Samberg kit.

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #222 on: May 13, 2017, 05:33:51 PM »
Re the drains entries...

The other style of drain I looked at was this one:



Is that what you meant by perforated drain tile?

My rationale on choose the protruding version was due to the eventual coverage by deck boards.  I can't easily service these drains and we do get a million little seeds off the trees that might get between boards and under the deck.  I figured if we had a bit storm they might float and clog a flat drain entry.  It could happen with the raised version as well, but they'd tend to build up around the edges instead of covering the face and therefore it'd be less likely to clog this way.  With only 45 deg bends I should be able to snake this without too much trouble.

One reason for the extra pictures above is that way I can always figure out which deck board to remove if I run into an issue.  Anyone else want to admit to using the forums as their personal reference archive? 

I do that in car builds a LOT.   :secret:

Note to self:  Add a full size hammer drill to the Christmas list!  (Probably Craigslist though)
« Last Edit: May 13, 2017, 05:42:00 PM by frijolee »
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #223 on: May 13, 2017, 05:52:36 PM »
I really want to get back to posting about the car projects (and hell even this thread is supposed to be about garages) but figured I should stay the course and catch up on this first.








I'd already stained the backsides, but the real faces got sanded first!  Not shown, belt sander after the palm jobbie was too slow.






Gravel burrito of weed clothe behind to help drainage.  Even with real wood I want this to last a long long time.




End detail where the elevation changes on the rest of my yard.  Every board got installed with 3/32 spacers to ensure equal the wood had even gaps for swelling.  Still not perfect, but wood is an imperfect media and it's close.




Complete gravel burrito.




Plastic shims on the top surface where my poles weren't prefect.




And planters done.






Now I throw some mulch in there and ignore it.  You guys are probably only interested in the build part anyways.
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline SBCFC07

Re: Joel's garage build / organization
« Reply #224 on: May 13, 2017, 08:52:37 PM »
Looking good Joel!, i just recently bought a house as well and will be doing some renovations too! I love seeing your little girls involved I have a step daughter whos 7 and a baby girl on the way and i hope i can get them into working around the garage and helping daddy. Love the shop i'll be borrowing some ideas for sure keep up the great work!
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