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Offline MPbdy

Unbeatable street race car
« on: June 24, 2014, 07:16:01 PM »
This may or may not turn into a shit show.  It will however be a bench race extravaganza.

Rule 1 - No back halved cars...must still be a real car...not a promod car on the street.
Rule 2 - Dig racing only.

We've all watched a lot of street race videos.  I just watched the video that someone posted recently where an FD got trashed by a volvo. 

It got me thinking though.  What is the average ET that a really serious street racer can pull on either a virgin piece of asphalt or a prepped street?  What do you think it takes to beat out lets say...90% of whatever rolls up next to you from a dig?  I'd guess certainly there are guys pulling 9 second passes on the street, but is that excellent or just okay?  I'm sure a lot of the cars in these videos have enough beans to go 7's, and I've watched some go in the low 8's, but their street setup is likely different.


Offline largeorangefont

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 07:32:52 PM »
Watch more street outlaws.

Im going to wager that mustang is almost as close to as fast as you can go on the street from a dig based on your criteria.
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Offline MPbdy

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 07:49:01 PM »
Just watched the premier today lol.  All the "big tire cars" are kind of out of consideration.  Chuck's mustang fits the bill.  Curious what a good pass really translates to.

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 07:57:21 PM »
REAL street car, or something that gets brought in, unloaded from a trailer, street raced and then trailered away?   That's what most of the Street Outlaw cars I've seen have done.

An Alpha Omega GTR is faster than 98% of stuff on the street thanks to AWD, but you know it'll grenade a tranny regularly.   You can drive it in just about any weather and traffic, too.   Should go mid 8s in a reasonable street trim.

Beyond that, something like the Street Outlaws cars, forced induction or nitrous required to keep it sane.   Turbo cars are usually much better mannered and able to leave a little smoother on the street.
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Offline twokrx7

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 08:07:30 PM »
What do you think it takes to beat out lets say...90% of whatever rolls up next to you from a dig?  I'd guess certainly there are guys pulling 9 second passes on the street, but is that excellent or just okay?  I'm sure a lot of the cars in these videos have enough beans to go 7's, and I've watched some go in the low 8's, but their street setup is likely different.



I think you answered your own question, if you can run a 9 on the street you WILL beat >90% of anything that will ever roll up next to you.
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Offline twokrx7

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 08:13:36 PM »
REAL street car, or something that gets brought in, unloaded from a trailer, street raced and then trailered away?   That's what most of the Street Outlaw cars I've seen have done.

An Alpha Omega GTR is faster than 98% of stuff on the street thanks to AWD, but you know it'll grenade a tranny regularly.   You can drive it in just about any weather and traffic, too.   Should go mid 8s in a reasonable street trim.

Beyond that, something like the Street Outlaws cars, forced induction or nitrous required to keep it sane.   Turbo cars are usually much better mannered and able to leave a little smoother on the street.

Think it can run a mid-8 on a prepped street?  Damn that would be blazin fast.

I hope to have my AWD Jeep SRT8 below 9.5s in the quarter later this year, it should be able to do that on the street with a slight bit of prep for launch and the 1-2shift.  It has ran a 9.9 at 143mph into a 20+mph headwind, but we are working to take 0.2-0.3sec out of the 60ft.  I will get it out to the street after moving to prove out the traction on a mildly prep'd street, we'll see.
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Offline largeorangefont

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 08:13:52 PM »
Archive the thread! We are done here!
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Offline digitalsolo

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 08:14:27 PM »
On a good, sticky concrete street, it may be able to.    On an asphalt side road?  No.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline largeorangefont

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 08:15:15 PM »
Wait wait wait.. What if the unbeatable car has ProEfi??
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Offline digitalsolo

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 08:17:58 PM »
Wait wait wait.. What if the unbeatable car has ProEfi??

Then it will have excellent traction control.

An actual fast street car will launch with a lot of wheel speed and some tire slippage though.   If you need traction control, you don't have enough suspension setup.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline MPbdy

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 08:27:40 PM »
Wait wait wait.. What if the unbeatable car has ProEfi??

Then it will have excellent traction control.

An actual fast street car will launch with a lot of wheel speed and some tire slippage though.   If you need traction control, you don't have enough suspension setup.

You're right you've gotta blacktrack the whole way.  I'd imagine you can set traction control to do that though...right?  Is it set up by percentage of slip?

Offline MPbdy

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 08:29:09 PM »
Wait wait wait.. What if the unbeatable car has ProEfi??

This is really funny because I forgot to change the thread title to something less absurd.

Offline Ruler_Mark

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 08:34:29 PM »
That vid Vs the volvo you can see the guy start too close to the edge of the street and step out and just cover his driver rear in dirt giving him no traction.
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Offline zbrown

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2014, 08:47:25 PM »
A true street types deal no prep or tricks is a different beast for sure with a small tire setup

I wouldn't believe a thing from that show either
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Offline Demon

Re: Unbeatable street race car
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2014, 08:52:27 PM »
Wait wait wait.. What if the unbeatable car has ProEfi??

Then it will have excellent traction control.

An actual fast street car will launch with a lot of wheel speed and some tire slippage though.   If you need traction control, you don't have enough suspension setup.

You're right you've gotta blacktrack the whole way.  I'd imagine you can set traction control to do that though...right?  Is it set up by percentage of slip?


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