V8 FD3S Oil Cooler kit!

[wompa164]

Thanks for sharing. As I suspected, the banjo fitting is necessary to make that 90* connection on the cooler side, my kit didn’t have it. I would assume I got the right kit because everything else seemed to be about right - do you have any pictures of how you routed your hoses? I actually stuffed mine between the block and the steering rack.

And would you happen to have a part number for the banjo fitting that you used? I saw that the coolers use M22 threads and adapters for that size seem to be in short supply.

[Cobranut]

IIRC SBG supplied the Banjo fitting.  It is a 22mm to -10AN and goes directly on the Setrab cooler.

I'll attach some routing pics.
As you can see I use vinyl tubing from Lowe's to protect the hose, and surrounding parts, from chafing. I split it with a utility knife (carefully), and secure it with zip ties.
The SS hose can be very abrasive if allowed to rub.  I'd do the same if using nylon, to protect the hose itself.
For some reason I can't find the message I sent to SBG with the hose lengths and routing.
Hope this helps.

[Cobranut]

Also note how close the headlight gets to these fittings as it moves through it's travel. 

[wompa164]

That’s exactly how I settled on routing mine (over the steering rack bushing) so I feel a bit better now. Thank you so much for the detailed pictures.

It looks like this might be the missing fitting, expensive little bugger: http://www.improvedracing.com/an-adapter-fittings/setrab-banjo-fittings-for-m22x15-ports-p-588.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw2a32BRBXEiwAUcugiId8xllMsZbpwa1MwdK1C38Tl0RlJLqF8GZvjJdmU_nYVDatvQWCAxoCo0cQAvD_BwE&utm_campaign=googleproductsearchusen&utm_medium=product_search&utm_source=googleproductsearchusen

I was concerned about a banjo fitting flowing enough for the -10AN but the design of the Setrab fitting is interesting, looks very free flowing internally.

[Exidous]

I skipped all the shenanigans and made my own with derale cores. No issues but I do wish I had gone with the 212° t-stat. Everything else was custom made with contact fittings and WAY cheaper.

[wompa164]

For sure, I just didn't want to do the legwork on making the brackets.

[wompa164]

I don't know what's going on at SBG but I would think twice before giving them your business. Going on nearly 2 weeks now and I never received a response to my emails asking for installation instructions or the missing banjo fitting. I paid out of pocket for the missing fitting because I needed to finish the install and couldn't want any longer. I sent them another email asking to be reimbursed for my cost and told them I'll be filing a chargeback for the cost of the fitting if another few days go by without hearing back.

[SBGarage]

I checked the email just now and have not received an email from you... we always do our best to answer ALL customer questions, if you do not hear from us something has gone wrong.  510-356-5556 is the shop phone, please call/text that number.  If you can re-forward your email to us (maybe there's a server issue or we're not getting your emails)  please try our Gmail  sakebombgarage@gmail.com which should foward to the same inbox - ask for Heath, I'll help you out.

You should have a M22-10AN banjo fitting included in the kit along with the brackets, cooler, and lines.  I would have overnighted that to you if I had a chance to resolve the issue with you, really sorry man   .  We'll credit you for the cost as well as give you a wholesale discount on your next order with us - anything from brake lines to Ohlins. 

Ask for Heath, I'm the owner and I'll get you sorted out.  Really sorry about the frustrating situation here, honestly.   

-Heath Friedland

[Cobranut]

I checked the email just now and have not received an email from you... we always do our best to answer ALL customer questions, if you do not hear from us something has gone wrong.  510-356-5556 is the shop phone, please call/text that number.  If you can re-forward your email to us (maybe there's a server issue or we're not getting your emails)  please try our Gmail  sakebombgarage@gmail.com which should foward to the same inbox - ask for Heath, I'll help you out.

You should have a M22-10AN banjo fitting included in the kit along with the brackets, cooler, and lines.  I would have overnighted that to you if I had a chance to resolve the issue with you, really sorry man   .  We'll credit you for the cost as well as give you a wholesale discount on your next order with us - anything from brake lines to Ohlins. 

Ask for Heath, I'm the owner and I'll get you sorted out.  Really sorry about the frustrating situation here, honestly.   

-Heath Friedland

Thanks Heath,
This is the typical level of service I've always heard about from SBG. 
I was rather surprised to see the negative info. Glad to see you're still here taking care of business.

[wompa164]

Heath,

Just received your response from American Express today:

• I replied to your message here on Norotors (which I received several weeks later, only after finishing my installation and filing the chargeback) requesting a copy of my emails to you. I replied the next day with the dates of all the emails I sent.
• I never received an email or voicemail from you. I can prove I sent you emails, can you say the same?
• Why would I ask for an RMA to return a product that I had already installed? All I asked for was a refund for the cost of the fitting. American Express does not allow you to specify partial chargebacks though I did request that in the issue notes.

Kind of shocked that you would chose fraud in the form of lying to American Express instead of just issuing the partial credit. Or maybe you have severe technical issues with your emailing system whereby you selectively don't receive or send emails, even though I was communicating with the same addresses that I had been using to communicate with Alexandra.

And for the record, the lack of included fitting was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, not the singular issue. The lack of instructions provided with the kit and total absence of communication/support (until I filed a chargeback and went forward publicly) is of much greater concern for me. I had to get support directly from the person you used as a guinea pig in developing the kit to get any actual answers. Either way, I don't think I'll be doing business with you going forward.

To the forum mods - I know SBG is a paid sponsor so if this is breaking rules, please let me know.

[digitalsolo]

We don’t have paid sponsors, FYI.

[SBGarage]

We apologize for the situation, the last few months have been a chaotic mess with vendors and manufacturers shuddering offices and operations and all of the additional support the situation requires. Our own office has also been subject to closure under stay at home orders for a period of about 5 weeks, and it has not always been easy to provide support up to the standards that we would like. Having said that, the LS Swap FD kit has been utilized by a number of customers, and installations on this level (performance modifications to an engine swapped vehicle) generally will require pretty extensive/specialized knowledge on the part of the installer and often a number of modifications to the parts to complete the install.

The kit was originally an off-menu item we only recently started selling on our web store due to customer requests, and it is not advertised with instructions. Having said all that, we're never pleased when a customer is unhappy, and we are sorry for the lapses in communication. Please email us at info@sakebombgarage if you'd like to discuss the situation further and hopefully we can come to a copacetic understanding.

-Alexandra

[wompa164]

I just sent an email to both of the provided email addresses, looking forward to resolution on it.

Thanks.

[Esser]

I'm not one to bad mouth a company, but I have had an issue with every single part i have ordered from Sakebomb. From the oil cooler fittings being cheap, to parts missing, to bad customer service. I would 10/10 buy an oil cooler from Improved racing. They use quality fittings and brackets and are much more responsive to customers. Just call them up they make a cooler for LS Fd's!

[SBGarage]

I'm not one to bad mouth a company, but I have had an issue with every single part i have ordered from Sakebomb. From the oil cooler fittings being cheap, to parts missing, to bad customer service. I would 10/10 buy an oil cooler from Improved racing. They use quality fittings and brackets and are much more responsive to customers. Just call them up they make a cooler for LS Fd's!

We're very sorry that you had a bad experience. The fittings we utilize for our kits are all MOCAL or Setrab parts, both of whom have strong reputations in the industry. On the subject of customer service, we try very hard to follow up with our customers and resolve issues if and when they exist. If there's some specific issue that we failed to resolve for you, please contact us directly and we'll do our best to get the situation resolved as soon as possible!

The Covid Pandemic has created substantial issues with production chain and office shutdowns throwing ETA's up into the air. This has resulted in a massive increase in office work, since we're constantly checking in with vendors and production companies which have missed production deadlines, as well as customers who are understandably upset with the delays. So it has been extremely difficult to provide customer service up to the standards which we would like, and we're doing the best we can with a very difficult situation.

We stand by our products, and the quality of the parts they include. We also try very hard to ensure our customers are satisfied, and if someone does have issues with one of our kits, we are always happy to provide advice or a solution to the situation if needed. If you did have problems with orders you placed with us, please contact us, we do our best to satisfy our customers as best we can.