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Offline rhino88

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #315 on: April 29, 2016, 07:08:27 PM »
What are you guys running for a cheap aftermarket LSD?
Found an 8.8 with 3.73's but no lsd

Offline wickedrx7

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #316 on: April 29, 2016, 07:43:03 PM »
this is what I am running and love it.  http://m.summitracing.com/parts/dtl-913a561

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Offline largeorangefont

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #317 on: April 29, 2016, 08:00:46 PM »
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Sell it to spacevomit.  He'll finish it.

Offline MPbdy

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #318 on: April 29, 2016, 10:04:28 PM »
I just picked up a t2r tonight :)

Offline largeorangefont

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #319 on: April 29, 2016, 10:30:39 PM »
Excellent!!
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Offline rhino88

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #320 on: May 01, 2016, 06:45:24 PM »
Tacky question...
But has anyone welded their 8.8?

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Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #321 on: May 02, 2016, 03:56:26 PM »
Tacky question...
But has anyone welded their 8.8?

No need, just get a spool.  Lighter, stronger, and not that expensive.

What are you guys running for a cheap aftermarket LSD?
Found an 8.8 with 3.73's but no lsd

Cheap?  Factory Ford cluch-type is OK, $250!  Truetrac or T2R are super popular, and not expensive.  I saw a huge improvement in putting the power down going to the OS Giken though.


Offline frijolee

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #322 on: May 09, 2016, 12:57:34 AM »
I paid $430 for an 8.8 TrueTrac IIRC.  Drivetrain America was the cheapest I found when I went diff shopping.

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Offline rhino88

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #323 on: June 21, 2016, 06:01:22 PM »
I am having a hard time finding definitive pointers on a gear oil type.
I have a new Trac-Loc LSD and the shop that rebuilt the diff said to run a mineral based 75w140 without FM, but im having a hard time finding it.

Whats everyone else running? Or would recommend with a trac-loc?

Offline jimbo03886

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #324 on: June 21, 2016, 06:38:57 PM »
I run royal purple 75/140, yes it has a friction modifier. I have not had any issues with it, been in the car for nearly a year now and no ill effects.
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Offline largeorangefont

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #325 on: June 23, 2016, 11:17:27 AM »
I am having a hard time finding definitive pointers on a gear oil type.
I have a new Trac-Loc LSD and the shop that rebuilt the diff said to run a mineral based 75w140 without FM, but im having a hard time finding it.

Whats everyone else running? Or would recommend with a trac-loc?

Run Royal purple. You need friction modifier in a Trac-Loc.

If you need gear oil without FM you can get it from Amsoil - 75W140 Severe Gear or Redline - 75W140 NS.
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Offline kiyul4130

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #326 on: March 04, 2017, 04:22:45 PM »
Hey everyone, Im new here. I stumbled across this thread awhile back using google trying to find the perfect diff for a build I want to do. I finally decided to register and ask some questions.This thread has been very helpful. Im in the offroad scene and wanted to use this 06-07 diff in the front for a IFS buggy with portal outers. (its been done before). The person that did this before used a ford expedition diff and then had to machine down the side of it in order for it to match the adjacent side to use the same stub axles. After seeing this diff and doing research, from what I can tell, it should be perfect for what I want to do. I have just a couple questions though. Sorry if this doesn't fit the forum, I just found this thread to be the best place to ask with the most knowledgeable people. 

1. Can I use an ARB, or Yukon Grizzly air locker (31 spline) in this diff? From what I researched, I believe I can. I can also call Randy's RP.
2. Most importantly, can I run used 2.73 gears in this diff? The reason being is that the portal boxes are 2.13. 2.13 x 2.73 = 5.81 gearing overall which would be great. Im not looking to run anything deeper than that. Staying below 6.xx is ideal.  (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=Ford+8.8+2.75+gears&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XFord+8.8+2.73+gears.TRS0&_nkw=Ford+8.8+2.73+gears&_sacat=0) hopefully that link works

Here is a picture of the ford expedition diff he used and machined down. Im trying to find a better application to avoid dealing with any type of machining.

Here is a picture of the buggy and you can see the massive amount of ground clearance you gain with running portals.


Also, is it safe to say these stubs will work?
https://zcardepot.com/engine/ls-v8-swap/ford-8-8-irs-rear-diff-billet-axles.html
« Last Edit: March 04, 2017, 04:37:13 PM by kiyul4130 »

Offline frijolee

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #327 on: March 06, 2017, 04:55:32 PM »
Cool project!

I'm one of the founders of Ronin and I have a 72 FJ40 crawler in works.

To your questions:

1) Lockers are pretty much all interchangeable in the 8.8s.  It's worth double checking that your selection is compatible with the circ clips on the IRS stubs.  I've heard rumor that a few outlier setups can be continuous spline without a means to retain the shafts.  Everyone I've ever been involved with worked with both solid axles and IRS, that includes a spool for one gent.

2) Gearing should be fine.  There's a ton of support for these.  The only thing I suggest you watch out of is that some of the 06-2010 diffs use a larger pinion bearing.  I was looking at rebuild kits some time back and it looks like 06-07 might be one style and 08-10 the other.  The simplest thing to do is to have the gear manufacturer confirm it's intended for your year of diff.  The gear range should be no problem.

3) Stub axles... see if you can verify whether the link was intended for Explorer or Cobra applications.  There's a difference in diameter of the oil seal but all the splines should be the same.  All late model explorers use the larger 31 spline setups.

Last comment is regarding orientations.  Have you verified whether you'll be running this in a high pinion or low pinion configuration?  Often rear diffs run up front have to be flipped upside down to get the proper rotation out of them.  That can screw up your oiling and I'm not sure whether this diff can do that or not.  There's also an access port for a ABS sensor that you may need to plug more permanently than the plastic piece it comes with. The bolt pattern on the cover is reversible so you can point the vent up regardless of the diff orientation (and the vent is located in the cover which is nice).
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Offline kiyul4130

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #328 on: March 11, 2017, 03:36:36 PM »
Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it!!
I guess getting my questions answered left me with some more questions.

1. Ill have to ask whichever vender I choose and do what you said and make sure the c-clips work. Where do the clips go? I imagine they are just to the side of the carrier bearing? In an open diff, lots of times they are where the spider gears are but you can't access that way once using a spool/locker.

Here is a picture of his setup. (Machined down Ford expedition front diff) This is with an ARB with what now Im remembering are 33 spline stubs from RCV. That seems more correct. I thought 31 was a bit small. Im going to have to custom order those then unless any of you know a company making chromoly 930 33 spline stubs????



2. Gearing. To my knowledge 2.75 gears aren't made new anymore and Im planning on buying used ones. (You may think that sounds crazy but trust me, it will be fine and 2x as strong running this diff vs the factory unimog 404 ring and pinion) So now I wouldn't know which pinion bearing is correct. Thats my next question; is the pinion the same size throughout those years and the bearing diameter that changes? Or does one group of years support a larger pinion and the bearings are the same?

3. The Diff. For whatever reason the 06-07 Explorer/Mountaineer rear diff is the most common thing to pop up on eBay. Since I've only been searching the web thus far, why does the 06-07 keep popping up? Im not really getting any results for the 08-10 you and others have mentioned previously. So is it safe to say that that ARB pictured above will go into the diff I want? Im going to assume yes. As for the diff cover, Im going to buy a fabbed steel one and build brackets off that to mount the diff as well as use the two cast mounts on the diff housing.

4. Stubs. I could call that company and ask whether those were designed for the Explorer or Cobra. Now that Im seeing 33 spline was used, Im probably going to have to take that path. I wouldn't want to use anything less in strength.

5. Placement. Ok this could get confusing for some people, maybe not. I hope I don't make it worse. When running a front engine setup (were talking 4 wheel drive here/using a transfer case) a rear diff can be ran up front. You wouldn't want to flip it upside down. The gears spin the same way front and back. If you flipped it upside down you'd put it in drive and blow your transfer case up because it would be binding. Now if you were running a rear engine (4wd) you would have to flip the diffs upside down. I know now you can say your putting power to the coast side of the gear and all that blah blah blah. Thats a different topic. (Also, that diff pictured above, I have in my garage but won't be using now. Its a hi pinion 8.8 and you can see he is using it upside down in a low pinion position now) So on to what I would have to do.......

Portals (the boxes) spin the opposite way. So if I had a low pinion diff, Id have to flip it upside down to get the correct rotation. The same thing for a hi-pinion, id have to flip IT upside down to a low pinion in order to get the correct rotation. All that becomes opposite when you go to a rear engine. HAHA!!! I plan on doing a traditional front engine setup. Now I dont know if any of you have ever seen a unimog 404 differential in person but the ring gear is TINY! These axles are 1.5 ton axles. The portals take significant stress off the R/P so thats why going this route can make IFS much cheaper. Traditional IFS non portal stuff can run in the neighborhood of $25k+. Thats a diff, stubs, housing, and shafts. Theres a whole lot more you obviously need to complete that front end. I think I can be into my front end for $7500 or less. Thats the price of a pretty well built solid axle. Thanks for the help again!!!
« Last Edit: March 11, 2017, 04:06:54 PM by kiyul4130 »

Offline tak209

Re: FD Explorer 8.8 Diff Kit
« Reply #329 on: March 24, 2017, 09:41:26 PM »
any chance of a sale or group buy going on for the 8.8 fd kit? missed the holiday sale :(