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Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #315 on: September 10, 2013, 02:31:52 PM »
I figured that's why you bought the pipe expander - that last pic sure looked like a step lol.   Awesome man. 

"right length" and "right size" have a lot to do with each other, so if that's what the dudes say, that's what I'd try.

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Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #316 on: September 10, 2013, 02:53:42 PM »
If it's straight to straight there shouldn't be any expanding required.

Effectivley, where I was going for a step, I wanted it to be a step.  Where I was going for a smooth transition between pipe and bend (which shrinks a bit) that's where I used the expander/shrinker a great deal.  The first stage of 1 7/8" is a little big for my exhaust port size, but I decided to give up a bit there to give myself options if I ever decide to jump into a more serious set of heads down the road.

By the way, there are a great many voices on the internet with opinions about stepped headers or not.  If you're feeling geeky, I found the following article to be pretty influencial on my thinking and clearly written by more than your average armchair quarterback:

http://www.epi-eng.com/piston_engine_technology/exhaust_system_technology.htm
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Offline Bowtie7

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #317 on: September 10, 2013, 08:04:07 PM »
They look very cool! I have 1 7/8 JTR's on mine and I did a little bit of work on the d/s floor to have better clearance. When I say work I don't mean smashing with a hammer. I cut the floor, reshaped and welded in a new panel. P/s I did the reshape for clearance and the metalwork is very smooth. Overall I wish I had just run the 1 3/4 headers but I ended up with 1 7/8 due to a shipping glitch from Sanderson and figured wtf. I definitely dont need the added size with my stock engine but for a bone stock ls2 it does make pretty good numbers at 385/392. Cant wait to see what you end up with Joel. Better call and get some Hoosiers on the way!
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Offline Sho Amo

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #318 on: September 12, 2013, 08:05:08 PM »
I noticed the RideBMX poster on the wall. Do you ride?
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Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #319 on: September 12, 2013, 08:43:33 PM »
... I did a little bit of work on the d/s floor to have better clearance. When I say work I don't mean smashing with a hammer. I cut the floor, reshaped and welded in a new panel. P/s I did the reshape for clearance and the metalwork is very smooth.

About that...  I smashed the corner of my floorboards with a mini sledge last night.   :(  I'm telling myself I'll weld in a panel some day since I'm pushing to get it back alive as quickly as I can now.  That really means I'm hoping once it's out of sight out of mind I won't care anymore.  Now that I know you've done it you're going to tempt me to pull the carpet back out and do it right...   Thanks Chaz  :punch:   ;)

I noticed the RideBMX poster on the wall. Do you ride?

That poster's pretty old but I used to ride quite a bit (street and dirt mostly).  I was never really stellar but I could bunny hop up on picnic tables and 360 at will.  I still have the BMX hanging on the wall and I break it out for kicks once in a blue moon.  I recently had a kid call it "old school", I'm assuming because it's not a cassete drive with the tiny chain ring (otherwise I don't see much difference).  I'm only 34 but it still made me feel old. 

Had some great memories on that bike.  Hell, have a replaced right ACL because of it.  It was a sad day when I finally let the Ride subscription expire...  These days I spend more time on a Santa Cruz Nomad.

You?

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Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #320 on: September 12, 2013, 08:58:33 PM »
^^^ Hey, you guys can make out on your own time, this thread's about getting this rad FC back together and terrorizing the streets.   :yay:

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #321 on: September 12, 2013, 09:15:37 PM »
Lol at Jeff.  FWIW, this thread's becoming more and more about how priorities shift as you get older (hence why the car hasn't gotten done and why I'm becoming more of a perfectionist with what I'm slowly building).

One of my favorite Jimlab quotes...  "When I was young my dream was to eat candy all day, every day.  Now that I'm grown and can afford all the candy I can eat, what do I do?  Eat salad and count calories... Priorities change."

That said, my 3YO recently announced "Daddy, I really want your white car to drive again" so maybe I have some stree...  I mean track, TRACK! terrorizing still to do.  With age, get a cage right?  FWIW I smile just thinking about taking this to SevenStock for race-track ride alongs.  It was an eye opener for a few rotarded friends before and now it should be cranked up to 11.

Not sure I'll have it shaken down for the ride along part, but this year's SevenStock on Nov 9th is definitely my goal.  I'm heading home to work on some headers and ship a few parts.
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Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #322 on: September 12, 2013, 10:34:28 PM »
At least Nov 9 is a common goal. I can't wait to beat the snot out of my car, and I can't wait to see yours running again too!


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Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #323 on: September 12, 2013, 11:04:58 PM »
If my car makes it to SEMA, we'll bring it back to Sevenstock for sure.

#dudeswithgoals

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Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #324 on: September 13, 2013, 03:12:19 PM »
Last night's header progress:

Driver's side getting close. 


Pardon the crappy pic, but it was taken in the wee hours and the only point is that the two big sections finally fit nicely to each other...  The dog leg at the lower end pushes the merge toward the trans to minimize floorboard clearancing while giving me the outlet angle I wanted.  Getting top and bottom to fit took some effort as I had one tube where I screwed up my "paint by numbers" build scheme and it threw me off for a while.

Some in car pictures.





Broke and reangled the pieces on the number 8 runner.   It was touch bell-housing previously.  It's landing nice now and actually has a little better firewall clearance than my 1 3/4 JTRs ever did.








The money shot:




Looks like these hang maybe 1" below the frame rails but given the big collectors I really can't get them much higher.  Now I just need to get them all welded up without it moving anywhere.  There's not a lot of margin with these.

Passenger side:
-3/8" to the starter (going to have to insulate it)
-3/8" subframe
-3/8" to the firewall
-3/8" to the floorboards (after clearancing a hump)

Driver side:
-3/8" to the Ronin pedestal
-3/8" to the steering rack hardware at the slip connection
-3/8" to the subframe
-3/8" to the oil filter

Wait for it:
-3/8" to the floorboards?  Nope still touching the floorboards (but it'll be 3/8" clear by the time I'm done!)

Anthony's going to help me welding up the primaries this weekend.  We also should have the FD 8.8 First Article done.  We live about an hour apart these days so we try to do as much as we can when meeting up for work sessions.

Anyone have hot tips about welding the flanges?  I'm thinking that's probably my single biggest risk  of this moving on me when locking it down.  If I tack the flanges in car I'll have to use my little 110v MIG, but maybe I can get a roll of stainless wire.

-Joel

@MrDudeWithGoals:  What'd you get done last night?   :poke:
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Offline Bowtie7

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #325 on: September 14, 2013, 11:37:14 AM »
... I did a little bit of work on the d/s floor to have better clearance. When I say work I don't mean smashing with a hammer. I cut the floor, reshaped and welded in a new panel. P/s I did the reshape for clearance and the metalwork is very smooth.

About that...  I smashed the corner of my floorboards with a mini sledge last night.   :(  I'm telling myself I'll weld in a panel some day since I'm pushing to get it back alive as quickly as I can now.  That really means I'm hoping once it's out of sight out of mind I won't care anymore.  Now that I know you've done it you're going to tempt me to pull the carpet back out and do it right...   Thanks Chaz  :punch:   ;)

I noticed the RideBMX poster on the wall. Do you ride?

That poster's pretty old but I used to ride quite a bit (street and dirt mostly).  I was never really stellar but I could bunny hop up on picnic tables and 360 at will.  I still have the BMX hanging on the wall and I break it out for kicks once in a blue moon.  I recently had a kid call it "old school", I'm assuming because it's not a cassete drive with the tiny chain ring (otherwise I don't see much difference).  I'm only 34 but it still made me feel old. 

Had some great memories on that bike.  Hell, have a replaced right ACL because of it.  It was a sad day when I finally let the Ride subscription expire...  These days I spend more time on a Santa Cruz Nomad.

You?



I think I only got fancy because the interior was out of the car and the floor was uncoated at that time!
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Offline AKINA FC

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #326 on: September 14, 2013, 08:58:22 PM »
Those look and fit great Joel, I can wait to see them finished! Might this be a future Ronin project for production?

Offline Sho Amo

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #327 on: September 15, 2013, 06:34:52 PM »


That poster's pretty old but I used to ride quite a bit (street and dirt mostly).  I was never really stellar but I could bunny hop up on picnic tables and 360 at will.  I still have the BMX hanging on the wall and I break it out for kicks once in a blue moon.  I recently had a kid call it "old school", I'm assuming because it's not a cassete drive with the tiny chain ring (otherwise I don't see much difference).  I'm only 34 but it still made me feel old. 

Had some great memories on that bike.  Hell, have a replaced right ACL because of it.  It was a sad day when I finally let the Ride subscription expire...  These days I spend more time on a Santa Cruz Nomad.

You?

Yes, I have been racing since I was 11. Stopped for a couple years and started racing nationally again this year. In 2007 I was National #2 in class.
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Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #328 on: September 18, 2013, 04:27:45 PM »
Weekend progress (well that and the FD 8.8 stuff I posted).



BTW there are a couple spots in the above where a small degree change 1 7/8" bend nests into the 2" step up which I intentionally overlapped to make assembly easier.  It looks like kinked but it's not (#1 and #2 primaries mostly)
« Last Edit: September 18, 2013, 04:45:24 PM by frijolee »
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Offline largeorangefont

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #329 on: September 18, 2013, 04:49:10 PM »
Those look great. I cant wait to see them together.
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