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Offline digitalsolo

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #225 on: September 07, 2012, 10:44:40 PM »
That sir, is freaking awesome.     I tried to get my wife to let me make one of those, no go.    No go on using a blower housing from a Top Fuel car as a lamp either.   :D
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #226 on: September 07, 2012, 11:47:09 PM »
At the very least, it's a conversation piece.  ;)

On the wife front...  we talked it out and I got the thumbs up with the conditions that it A) not be rusty and B) it not stink of fuel and/or oil.  Ironically, some of the biggest kudos have been from my wife's friends who are into interior design.  I kinda knew the car buds would be into but the variety of positive reactions from the ladies have surprised me.   

Stay classy San Diego.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 08:00:48 PM by frijolee »
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline mefarri

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #227 on: September 08, 2012, 11:01:47 PM »
THAT IS AWESOME.  I like the design changes to the standard ones you see.  Solid work.  Ark of the covenant made me lol.
"I'm not sure what your intent was because I don't speak "dumbshit", but next time, start your own thread. "

-Jimlab

"Otherwise it looks like something I can build over a weekend, if I spent the first day watching TV."

-Blake motherfucking McBride

Offline FabChild

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #228 on: September 09, 2012, 03:41:13 AM »
That's sooo cool man!
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Dynasty 200SD
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Offline Demon

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #229 on: September 13, 2012, 08:24:08 PM »
I love the idea of the offset heads and crank, would of never thought of doing that.

My gf aswell wants me to do this... I'm waiting for a cool motor to make one out of. I may be scoring a dinan built BMW V10 to do, we'll see.
'93 RX7 (co-project with macnewma)
'95 Supra Turbo Billet GT42-76

Offline CKxx

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #230 on: September 13, 2012, 09:00:30 PM »
At the very least, it's a conversation piece.  ;)

On the wife front...  we talked it out and I got the thumbs up with the conditions that it A) not be rusty and B) it not stink of fuel and/or oil.  Ironically, some of the biggest kudos have been from my wife's friends who are into interior design. I kinda new the car buds would be into but the variety of positive reactions from the ladies have surprised me.   

Stay classy San Diego.

Take that, wife!

That sucker has to be heavy.  Well, compared to a normal table at least.

Offline kartermdb

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #231 on: November 09, 2012, 10:05:30 PM »
Hopefully you dont mind, I shared a picture of your coffee table on facebook and it appears to become an instant hit :cheers:

Offline retired

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #232 on: November 30, 2012, 06:44:06 PM »
Nice sticky info::great job Joel :cheers:

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #233 on: February 23, 2013, 03:30:30 AM »
Well, despite my momentary crisis of faith…
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=14057.0

I did decide that the best possible thing I could would be to finish my car and to fall back in love with it.  I already have a big motor sitting on a stand waiting for a home and so I said screw it, I’m putting it together.  If I build a tube chassis bug eye sprite someday at least I’ll have a fast car to play with while I’m building that (figure it’d only take a decade or so).

In the meantime, I’m overdue for some progress pictures of what I’ve been working on.

Radiator / Fan v2.0: Road Race

I’m still a big “fan” (pun intended) of the JTR radiator kit I’m replacing.  It was perfect for a street car and should hold up great under track duty with a stock ls1 I still recommend it.  On track with heads and cam it was fine but seemed to be pretty close to the limit.   With a vented hood (ahem RONIN) it would probably be OK, but it became a lot more marginal after I added AC.  Something about my condenser being in front was just enough that the coolant system couldn’t quite keep up and I’d end up blowing the heater to bring it back in line any time I was driving kinda hard.

I was chatting about this with Ash (LargeOrangeFont) a while back and we decided to mirror parts for most of a new build.  We picked the pieces more than a year ago which tells you how much wrenching I’ve not been getting done.

Anyways, here’s what the new setup looks like:




Parts:
-Howe 34329-RNF  Note:  Howe’s own literature claims this is 28 1/4 wide.   http://www.howeracing.com/t-RadiatorsDouble-Table.aspx
http://www.howeracing.com/Images/DoublePassDiagram.gif
However, our contact at Howe said that it would only be 28 1/4" if there was an oil cooler in there (which there isn’t in ours), therefore this radiator is actually 27 1/4”.

-Spal 30102052 
http://www.spalusa.com/store/main.aspx?p=itemdetail&item=30102052

The trick detail about this fan is not only is it high flow and a pretty good match the radiator dimensionally, but it also uses the rubber flapper gates to minimize resistance to flow at speed.



Ash did a super trick lay down setup that I love (his car, not mine, random pic for reference)



However, I’d already done my own over the radiator intake that seemed to work very very well so I opted to not.  Staying upright will also my keeping my AC condenser a little easier.

Mounting is custom.   I picked up a good rivet nut tool a while back and it’s now probably one of my favorite tools.  I just carved come custom top and bottom caps out of aluminum square tubing to land where I wanted.  I’m using riv nuts to support the fan. 








For isolators I’m using McMaster part number 9225K64.  The load rating on these might be a little light for long term service (15 lbs each in shear) but it was close enough to try.  I can step up to a level harder if needed, the only downside is that those isolators only come in orange.



Mounting took a little figuring out as I wanted to be able to drop this in vertically without relying on the big wrap around tow hood feature the JTR’s had.  If you check out the pics above you’ll see the slots I carved in the side mounts so I could drop this in like I wanted.  The lower isolators fit such that one side uses a factory mounting hole.  The other is a riv nut.



Only other changes were upsizing the fill point to use ½” heater hose and the addition of a drain plug (also ½”, although in this case it uses an ORB-8 plug)



Here's what it'll look like in the car (final fit check prior to touching up paint as this took a little more trimming around the end tanks vs. my prior setup)

« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 03:15:23 PM by frijolee »
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline digitalsolo

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #234 on: February 23, 2013, 11:40:55 AM »
Very cool.   Quality work as always Joel.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #235 on: February 23, 2013, 12:38:15 PM »
Apologies that this thread is going to skip around a little bit.  I’m doing a bunch at once so I’ve been getting after it in the order I have access to things not necessarily in the most logical order from a sequence and flow of reading standpoint.  For instance, the radiator was built before I even decided to sell my engine and do the stroker.  This is going to be pretty much an all new swap based on the same chassis, as other than interior, accusump, and some of the wiring this is a 100% redo. 

Anyways, quick shot saying goodbye to the old engine.  Served me extremely well and it went to a great home (along with my old hood!)… 




Time to meet the new girl.  It’s an MTI “Z07” motor.  The same engine setup in a Corvette won the One Lap of America a few years back.  This one was just fully freshened by Erik Koenig at HKE.   Prior owner was kind enough to even send me the receipt.



Basic specs:
Block GM LS2 Darton Dry Sleeve
Lunati 4340 Forged Crankshaft (4.00 stroke)
Lunati Billet Connecting Rods
Jesel 1.7 Shaft Mounted Roller Rocker Arms
MTI Stage 3 Hand Ported 243 Cylinder Heads
Wiseco K395X130 forged pistons (11.25:1 compression, 4.130 bore)
Custom Patrick G camshaft (235/239 .602 / .604” / 113 LSA +2)
GM LS9 timing chain
Manton Custom Pushrods - 11/32nds Intake and Exhaust
Comp R hydraulic lifters
PRC .650 dual valve springs
Melling HV oil pump
ARP everything

It started life as a 427 ci, but given a 0.005 clean up pass I suppose that makes 429 now.  The cam is pretty mellow for an engine this big and I was really tempted to swap in a 243/252 0.595/0.595 I still have sitting on the shelf.  That said, the engine is already together and was built up by one of the premier LS engine guys in the country so I decided I’m not going to get all jacked about the peak hp number and instead do the grown up thing and see what this’ll do with the broadest torque curve possible.

Couple shots peaking at the inside: 

Lunati Rods



Some very tidy sleeve clearancing for the stroker.



Jesel’s are meaty.  I’ll be watching for value control issues given the weight but I’m kind of excited to try roller rockers.





Lots more to come…
-Joel
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #236 on: February 23, 2013, 09:47:15 PM »
Oil pan baffle – Improved Racing, trapdoor design

Seeing as my first LS1 is now a nice coffee table from an oiling problem, I’m of doing all I can on the oiling front for this motor.  I really have to give it up for Michael Ihns and Improved Racing.  I had one of the version 1.0 pans and he one’s of the folks I really respect.  Heck, we even threw a link for Improved Racing pro-bono on www.roninspeedworks.com just because we like the guys.

Trapdoor design is sweet.



Out with the old:



As usual, fit of the baffle is just about perfect. 



Figured I’d give a little brand recognition for Improved as well.



This is one mod that belongs in any wet sump LS engine that sees track time (well, this and an accusump).  If you have a dry sump, then my hat’s off to you.  However I think I’d have a hard time going that way and keeping my AC.

Unfortunately, I did discover a stripped out oil pan bolt when changing the baffle.  I could have just upped the bolt one size, but I’d still know and feel like I cheated.  Instead did a double stacked helicoil for maximum thread engagement.  I’m not cutting corners on an engine this nice.  Rigged my shop vac to be careful about the chips.




For whatever reason, I just love working on engines upside down. 


LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline largeorangefont

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #237 on: February 23, 2013, 10:03:10 PM »
Nice extension cord reel Joel :)
Quote from: cool
Sell it to spacevomit.  He'll finish it.

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #238 on: February 24, 2013, 02:22:37 AM »
Nice extension cord reel Joel :)

The garage doesn't have a lot of space so you do what you gotta do...  It'll be a lot more open when all the misc parts are back in the car where they belong.  The engine hoist is really in the way.  I was glad to see that you were getting in some wrench time as well.  I had Friday off and the fam is out of town so this is going to be a pretty solid three day weekend o' project work for me. 
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)

Offline frijolee

Re: Joel's LS1 FC parts list/swap thread (remixed)
« Reply #239 on: February 24, 2013, 04:03:53 PM »
Engine Bay Prep

I wanted to give myself a little more clearance around a few parts so this time I trimmed the firewall lip and the pinch welds of the subframe at both sides.

Big hole, getting ready to make a mess



I did this with the dash in the car and didn’t set the interior on fire.  Anyways that’s the reason why I used a metric ton of 1/4 inch tack welds.



Gained about 3/4 of an inch at the subframe.  Should help with headers going in and out.



Firewall needed to be a might deeper in one spot.  I blew a hole in it trying to weld the sheet immediately adjacent to the tar behind it so I aborted and used kitty hair body for that depression with some standard filler smoothing over the top.



I pulled the grill at the base of the windshield and the back of the seam will get some seam sealer to be sure it doesn’t rust where I burned off the paint.
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
www.roninspeedworks.com

LargeOrangeFont says: "Joel is right, and I love Joel. But his car sounds like the wrath of God."   ;)