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Offline smackhead999

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2011, 11:50:12 PM »
That's pretty much how I have mine setup, I also get the 2krpm hanging while I'm moving, but it drops to idle when I stop, I'm not really sure if it's normal or not.

Also, I want a g19.

The problem is that if you have the passenger side valve cover plumbed to the TB, it could be after the throttle blade, sending in un-metered air to the manifold.  If it is plumbed to the air filter side of the TB, it will then be a path of least resistance, effective making the PCV valve pointless.  This is what I am trying to figure out.  I am starting to think, in order for it work effectively, that the passenger side cover needs a check valve, so that it is an air-into-crankcase only route.  That way, the PCV valve will be an air-out of-crankcase only route.  Either way, neither of the routes can be after the throttle blade.  Without the check valve, having the PCV valve is also pointless, and you are using both sides as vents.  One side needs to be an IN, and one side needs to be an OUT.

The 2k hang is from PCV being sent into the manifold after the TB and is un-metered air.  It will also cause poor start-up idling.
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Offline Copper280z

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #106 on: September 09, 2011, 09:39:53 AM »
I've always plumbed them so there is an airflow path through the engine, filtered air->engine->vacuum. My car always starts and idles great, it's pretty predictable dropping back to idle and it doesn't always hang out of gear which is why I wonder if it's some sort of 'feature'.
-Bob
'77 280z - Boost - 12.6 at 108
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Offline smackhead999

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #107 on: September 09, 2011, 10:20:49 AM »
how do you pick up the filtered air to pass through the crank case?
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Offline Copper280z

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #108 on: September 09, 2011, 10:25:44 AM »
Top port on my f body TB, it goes to the filter side of the throttle plate. Both connections are after the MAF, so no unmetered air.
-Bob
'77 280z - Boost - 12.6 at 108
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Offline smackhead999

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #109 on: September 09, 2011, 10:32:33 AM »
Thats where I have my PCV side going... where does your PCV hose go?
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Offline Copper280z

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #110 on: September 09, 2011, 10:51:51 AM »
The vacuum port on the drivers side of the intake behind the TB.
-Bob
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Offline smackhead999

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2011, 01:33:41 PM »
Ill try that and see what happens. 

Went and got some 1 1/4" x 2" steel pipe nipples and I am going to weld a bead on the ends.  This will be my new coolant hose coupler.  The grey plastic ones I have been using have become deformed from the heat.  I think this is why it has been blowing off.  Also, I have been using two 15psi radiator caps.  One on the radiator with the bleed fitting blocked off, and the second cap on the AST, with the bleed fitting going to the overflow tank.  I picked up a 13 psi cap today and will put this on the AST, as I believe that since I have been driving this swap, I dont think any coolant has ever gone into the overflow tank.  This could be the excessive build in pressure that is blowing the hose off... or the combination of the coupler and the 15psi cap.

Time to get welding.  I hate welding galvanized steel.  Its gross.
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Offline Copper280z

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #112 on: September 09, 2011, 01:40:51 PM »
Grind the galvanized coating off, get it down to bare steel, then weld.
-Bob
'77 280z - Boost - 12.6 at 108
'87 Rx7 - 5.3/t56 - 13.0 at 107

Offline smackhead999

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #113 on: September 09, 2011, 02:21:08 PM »
I just reread what you said.  Any port behind the TB is going to cause an RPM hang.  Its air bypassing the TB and the IAC.  Plus, I tried the same port on my F body TB, and its a dud.  Its not an open port.  I couldnt blow through it.  I am running my PCV valve back to the original passenger side upper port, and am still trying to find some fresh air source for the passenger side valve cover.
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Offline smackhead999

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Offline smackhead999

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #115 on: September 10, 2011, 11:42:02 AM »
Coolant problem fixed.  PCV problem fixed.  Car is back to good working order.  I am gonna focus on putting down some LOCAL miles for a while and make sure that she will hold up.  Took her out for a few hours last night and ran some errands around town.  Romped on her a few times just to make sure. 

I love the look on peoples faces when this thing drives through.  Stock wheels, 7 different colors of paint, rust, primer, medium cam, and no mufflers.
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Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #116 on: September 10, 2011, 04:32:38 PM »
Did you get the new top yet?

Offline smackhead999

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #117 on: September 10, 2011, 08:38:03 PM »
New top?

Maybe you are referring to the sunroof I was looking for a while back?  I have one that I stole off of the base model I have.  So, technically, I still need one.  The issue with that was that my gxl, which I have swapped, was the glass sunroof, and is an all together different mounting system from the metal sunroof.  I had to swap the whole sunroof system out for it to work.  So, the system that I removed from my gxl which is sitting in the seat of the base model, is the system for a glass roof.  I havent taken the time to see if I can retrofit it to metal.
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Offline gnx7

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #118 on: September 10, 2011, 09:59:06 PM »
I had a bad 2K RPM hanging in my original buildup.  Just needs a better tune and/or the size of the hole in the TB butterfly may need to be addressed.
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Offline Copper280z

Re: smackhead999's 6.0L N/A FC build
« Reply #119 on: September 10, 2011, 10:26:50 PM »
Coolant problem fixed.  PCV problem fixed.  Car is back to good working order.  I am gonna focus on putting down some LOCAL miles for a while and make sure that she will hold up.  Took her out for a few hours last night and ran some errands around town.  Romped on her a few times just to make sure. 

I love the look on peoples faces when this thing drives through.  Stock wheels, 7 different colors of paint, rust, primer, medium cam, and no mufflers.

What did you do with the PCV?

I took a friend of a friend for a ride last night, he has a low 13 sec mazaspeed3. I nailed it in 2nd from a 30 roll and took it to the top of 3rd. When we got back he went on for at least 20 minutes how nuts it is. I love the reaction I get from everyone that see's it or gets a ride.
-Bob
'77 280z - Boost - 12.6 at 108
'87 Rx7 - 5.3/t56 - 13.0 at 107