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Offline AKINA FC

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #750 on: April 14, 2017, 05:56:29 PM »
https://youtu.be/R2uKWr4e_7I
Small clip from the weekend  :cheers:

Offline AKINA FC

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #751 on: April 14, 2017, 06:16:14 PM »
Thoughts for weight reduction:

braided lines swap for the nylon ones
stainless hardware for non bearing bolts
drop powersteering, lose serp. belt and go alternator tension only from BMR: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=products&productid=248
fixed seat brackets (not sure if you have these - but sliders are heavy)
Ditch pass seat
Fixed seat belts rather than inertia reels
Shorten exhaust, exit behind front wheels
change remaining exhaust to aluminum/ti
change bracing/supports/subframe to Al, Ti
fixed headlights
lighter driveshaft
lighter flywheel, clutch
lighter engine components

Most all of this comes with compromises you prolly don't want to make.  But in case you had not considered...

I appreciate the list! but yeah pretty much everything on that list is done other than passenger seat/belts and the p/s removal as i'm still debating on those. Changing steel hardware out for lighter hardware/fastners and modified supports/so on will be bottom of the list as we did that stuff with my fathers super stock car, went to airplane yards and scavenged titanium fastners, took forever. I will be changing the exhaust as i will be adding rocker extensions and will exit them out the side/sides, don't know about using aluminum at the collectors though, would think that will fatigue with all that heat?
I appreciate the thoughts from everyone!

Offline Sho Amo

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #752 on: April 14, 2017, 06:34:11 PM »
It looks like you want to take 50 lbs from the left front and move it to the right rear.

I think axing the powersteering would shave almost 50lbs from the front. Then maybe add some weight in the RR.
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Offline largeorangefont

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #753 on: April 14, 2017, 06:59:11 PM »
Wow Erik, that is awesome - Congrats.

Do you get any contingency prizes like tires for the win? I'll be interested to share notes with you after you install the front bearing spacers. I know some guys have gone to steel/aftermarket hubs.. I'm not sure those are needed.

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Offline largeorangefont

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #754 on: April 14, 2017, 07:00:25 PM »
It looks like you want to take 50 lbs from the left front and move it to the right rear.

I think axing the powersteering would shave almost 50lbs from the front. Then maybe add some weight in the RR.

I think removing power steering with Erik's setup is a non starter.

Quote from: cool
Sell it to spacevomit.  He'll finish it.

Offline largeorangefont

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #755 on: April 14, 2017, 07:09:57 PM »
Thoughts for weight reduction:

braided lines swap for the nylon ones
stainless hardware for non bearing bolts
drop powersteering, lose serp. belt and go alternator tension only from BMR: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=products&productid=248
fixed seat brackets (not sure if you have these - but sliders are heavy)
Ditch pass seat
Fixed seat belts rather than inertia reels
Shorten exhaust, exit behind front wheels
change remaining exhaust to aluminum/ti
change bracing/supports/subframe to Al, Ti
fixed headlights
lighter driveshaft
lighter flywheel, clutch
lighter engine components

Most all of this comes with compromises you prolly don't want to make.  But in case you had not considered...

I appreciate the list! but yeah pretty much everything on that list is done other than passenger seat/belts and the p/s removal as i'm still debating on those. Changing steel hardware out for lighter hardware/fastners and modified supports/so on will be bottom of the list as we did that stuff with my fathers super stock car, went to airplane yards and scavenged titanium fastners, took forever. I will be changing the exhaust as i will be adding rocker extensions and will exit them out the side/sides, don't know about using aluminum at the collectors though, would think that will fatigue with all that heat?
I appreciate the thoughts from everyone!

Going to go with Boom Tubes in the Rockers? The rocker extensions will help round out the aero package!
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Offline Cobranut

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #756 on: April 14, 2017, 11:43:23 PM »
https://youtu.be/R2uKWr4e_7I
Small clip from the weekend  :cheers:

Dude, where are your gloves???  :o
And please tell me you're not driving in blue jeans.  I hope you at least had a HANS device...

With what we spend on these cars, don't skimp on a couple grand of equipment that could literally save your life.  :halo:
1995 FD, 7.0 Liter stroked LS3, T56, 8.8, Samberg kit.

Offline AKINA FC

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #757 on: April 17, 2017, 11:38:02 AM »

It looks like you want to take 50 lbs from the left front and move it to the right rear.

I think axing the powersteering would shave almost 50lbs from the front. Then maybe add some weight in the RR.

I think removing power steering with Erik's setup is a non starter.



That's the hard part, trying to play tetris with the weight and get it in the right rear! Yeah the power steering is something that is valuable both ways, makes driving waaaay easier with those big tires but it also would be a easy to remove wight that is on that front left :(  I will be shifting the surge tank and the battery to that side of the vehicle as its in the middle right now.

Offline AKINA FC

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #758 on: April 17, 2017, 12:19:28 PM »
Wow Erik, that is awesome - Congrats.

Do you get any contingency prizes like tires for the win? I'll be interested to share notes with you after you install the front bearing spacers. I know some guys have gone to steel/aftermarket hubs.. I'm not sure those are needed.

I do which can help out a lot, hoosier does up to two tires per day depending on how many are competing in your class. So depending you could win a set a tires a weekend = 1500.00! Fortune does contingency, up to 300 per win towards fortune product - revalves, upgrades, new product. Carbotech does racer discounts. I only have decals of companies that pay contingency or that support me with great customer service such Ronin and fuelab, both of them have helped me so much over the years, gone so far above and beyond I can only hope to pay them back.
I will definitely let you know what happens after the spacers, i'm hoping I don't need to go to steel hubs and I don't think I will as after this past weekend I am thrilled, that is the best repeating brake pedal and pad wear I have EVER had, it can only get better with these! :cheers:


Offline AKINA FC

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #759 on: April 17, 2017, 12:24:49 PM »
https://youtu.be/R2uKWr4e_7I
Small clip from the weekend  :cheers:

Dude, where are your gloves???  :o
And please tell me you're not driving in blue jeans.  I hope you at least had a HANS device...

With what we spend on these cars, don't skimp on a couple grand of equipment that could literally save your life.  :halo:

Well all the safety equipement was in the trailer if that makes it any better  :banghead: Yeah, I know i shouldn't go out with nothing on, even though rules allow it, TT is just about as dangerous as racing - parts fail, people do stupid things, speeds are just as high. I gear up for the W2W racing but forget sometimes for time trials, my wife gets on my ass too  :cheers:

Offline Cobranut

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #760 on: April 17, 2017, 08:32:39 PM »
Yeah, I'm pretty attached to my skin, and would prefer it stays attached to me.   :wave:
1995 FD, 7.0 Liter stroked LS3, T56, 8.8, Samberg kit.

Offline AKINA FC

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #761 on: May 25, 2017, 11:23:03 AM »
Finally got a little time to get to work on aero changes!

APR helped out on the new wing which is the GT-250, 71" span with 10" chord. Had to make new extensions to get the proper AOA settings I wanted but no big deal, they made the mounts to match my old wing so I didn't have to make new mounts :) Finally have a wing I can stand on haha



So the wing was all of 30 min to install, the new splitter was more like two full days to engineer and fab :( It turn out very nice for all of about 200 bucks in it. Material is HDPE, once I have tested it and need no more revisions I will send it off and have it made from carbon. I used nut inserts from the bottom as to not pull through and to keep the bottom as flat as possible, it is one piece and extends back to the oil pan. All adjustment rods, heims and brackets are 4130 steel. End plates I made from extra carbon fiber I had laying around, I'll make some nicer looking ones when I get more materials and begin to finalize. I can jump on it and it just bounces the suspension, so its pretty solid!
As of right now its about 40lbs which isn't horrible but its on the wrong end of the car, carbon will improve stiffness and reduce weight by about a 1/3 when done right. I will be most likely changing end plates and adding some center dividers, maybe dive planes/canards but I need to see what the balance feels like first. I will be making the mounts under the bumper cover out of 4130 and using quick pins for those as well so I can remove the assembly quickly to help with any repairs needed on the car.


1-1/4" light wall 4130 steel, slips over a mount and has a bolt through it to keep it from moving forward. center support mounts go to the two small tubes that protrude through the cover.









Offline 1320king

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #762 on: May 25, 2017, 11:25:40 AM »
last pic is awesome hahaha

Offline frijolee

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #763 on: May 25, 2017, 12:28:46 PM »
+1 on the epic last picture.  That's awesome.

A couple thoughts on the aero front:

I really think you should be able to get that lip down to 8-10 lbs or so.  You just need to find someone who' can lay up carbon with a core (or else make it yourself.)  There are a variety nicer composite cores available (Divinycell rigid PVC foam would be a good one), but even something as simple as balsa wood would be a massive step in the right direction.  Target 1/2 or 5/8" core thickness and you can probably do as little as two or three layers of carbon twill on each face.  You will need to add inserts to avoid crushing it with bolts and you'll also want wrap the front edge, but that's a great way to build in an aero friendly lead radius.  Hell, you're already set up to do it since the first one you make becomes a perfect template to cut the foam core and locate inserts.

Remind me, have you done anything to support the wing inside the car?  I'm guessing the sheet metal will be the weak link. The span where you have it mounted is unsupported otherwise. so I wouldn't recommend standing on it yet! 

When will you be taking it back out?
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
Build thread:  http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=1274.0
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Offline freeskier7791

Re: Akina's build
« Reply #764 on: May 25, 2017, 12:55:39 PM »
Nice job with the splitter, I want to build something similar eventually, I like how you did the mounting.
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