Camber/caster bolt issues

[Gunnytron]

So another fail at the alignment shop. Now the disc that is press on to bolt is spinning.

They still appear to be having issues reaching the correct Camber. It is taking them a lot if force to make adjustments. It all appear d fully adjustable when I had weight off the wheels.

[Gunnytron]

To add to the above, I asked them to try making adjustments with no weight on the car and they had less issues and could get a lot t more movement. Of course when they drop the car back down it all gets screwed up again

Not sure why they can't get the same adjustment when it's on the ground.

I am starting to wonder if there is an issue with the subframe. Perhaps a bad jig or something.

[Gunnytron]

I have now tried disconnecting the antiroll bar but it made no difference.

Pretty much all of my camber bolts are now f&$^ed as the washers are spinning on the shafts.

At this stage I am now actually considering getting a new Ronin subframe so I can at least remove that from potential causes.

[paul_3rdgen]

This sucks but I’m sure the ronin subframe will be a great upgrade. 


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[Gunnytron]

I have my new subframe now and I am comparing it to my samberg frame. So far the only differences I can see are that the slots for the camber bolts are about 5mm lower on the Samberg frame.

I am not seeing anything that is noticeably different enough to cause issues with the alignment.

A part of me was wondering if the alignment shop may have not had the wheels on plates that move sideways. This might cause binding as the wheel would have no where to move. Not sure if that's a thing or not. Do the plates move sideways?

The only other thing would be the suspension strut twisting against the wishbone causing binding.

[Cobranut]

I have my new subframe now and I am comparing it to my samberg frame. So far the only differences I can see are that the slots for the camber bolts are about 5mm lower on the Samberg frame.

I am not seeing anything that is noticeably different enough to cause issues with the alignment.

A part of me was wondering if the alignment shop may have not had the wheels on plates that move sideways. This might cause binding as the wheel would have no where to move. Not sure if that's a thing or not. Do the plates move sideways?

The only other thing would be the suspension strut twisting against the wishbone causing binding.

Alignment machines should definitely have slip/turn plates to allow suspension to settle properly.

[Gunnytron]

I have now tested both the subframes by fitting a control arm and I can get full adjustment so I don't think the subframe is the issue (good and bad news).

So I am back to suspension strut (unlikely I feel), issue with the alignment shop (trying to get too much adjustment with a bolt tightened? not allowing wheels to move while making adjustments? trying turn the bolts to far?). A bit of a mystery. It maybe that that it's a combination of lack of familiarity with double wishbone and my not so good camber bolts.