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Author Topic: Wonder if I could settle an old pissing contest from ages ago in a V8 RX7  (Read 2917 times)

Offline FourAces

Well, this was a long time ago, 10 years or so. There was this sort of asshat on a local street racing forum. I no longer street race because it's super dangerous and it's a good way to wreck your toy. It's just so much safer to do it on a sanctioned track, where you don't have to worry about wrecking into traffic or cops and shit.

Now to be fair to this guy, I was a hotheaded 20 year old, quick to anger, acted like the world OWED me respect. I was a real cantankerous asshole that no one would want to be around or be friends with.

 I'm also autistic, so that surely helped fuel some of my asshattery, or my incapability to PISS (Properly Interpret the Social Situation). But I've learned from my former, bad person who sucks at socializing ways. And I also thought my 14 second MR2 was faster than it actually was, you might even call me a ricer, even though I didn't really do tacky mods on the car, just a boost controller, downpipe and intercooler, but I thought my new turbo car was hot shit, when it was actually probably rather mundane compared to the big boys who could drop some actual 4 or 5 figure sums into their cars without thinking too much about it. My first MR2 Turbo was all but stock but for 3 hp mods, a set of rims, and some shitty KYB strut cartridges that were so cheap and trashy the struts felt like they were blown ALL the time. Putting in those garbage strut cartridges convinced me, coilovers or nothing, stock suspension is always superior to trash KYB strut cartridges. Probably made the car perform worse despite maybe "looking cooler" due to its lowered stance.

Anyways his parents bought him a '06 C6 Z06, back when they were brand new, $75,000 car. Given that the car was literally given to him, he had nothing but money left over to mod it, on top of that he had a far better paying job than what I held at the time, all my jobs to this date up til the trucking gig paid damn near minimum wage or not much higher than minimum, so what he could afford to put into his car, I couldn't even put 1/10th of the money into mine. Last I heard he had made it into a 1000whp beast of a machine, twin turbos, and built the LS7 up for forced induction (I gather those engines aren't ideal for forced induction short of a massive rebuild).

My friend had an 800whp CTS-V for awhile. If someone had a fast car, I'd sure as fuck say to them "OH yea! Well my FRIEND owns a 800whp CTS-V! Your shits slow, my FRIEND will smoke you", naw I'm just kidding, I try not to swing from other peoples nuts, even back when I was a hotheaded young prick.

He raced against him a while back, and it was one of the only cars that could beat his Cadillac, namely because it was significantly lighter and had more power.

Now I'm finally landing my first real job that pays far above minimum wage, I'm actually getting on the trainer 18 wheeler truck for Covenant Transport this Tuesday, and hopefully in 4 months or so I'll be making a good $.50 a mile once I get my HAZMAT endorsement, which is a handsome sum for a rookie IMO. I figure a significant portion of this income should go to the toy I've always wanted for my 33 years on this planet, 20 years since I was playing the F out of Gran Turismo 1 back in the day, but never really had the funds for, namely because I was a lazy slacker, and waited until I was 33 to land a *real* job.

If I were to go back to my old stomping grounds, presumably a sanctioned track in my hometown since I don't want to trash my precious Class A CDL, what kind of setup would a V8 FD RX7 require to pose much of a challenge to this guys 1000whp twin turbo C6 Z06? I'm not morally opposed to E85 tunes and turbos, and I also still hold by my firm belief, that maximum thermal efficiency for my engines goes a long ways, why I like to ceramic coat exhaust components, put heat wrap around them, turbo blankets for the turbos, A2W intercooler, and E85 and Methanol injection for the combustion chamber. This philosophy of mine when it comes to tuning turbo engines is even more pertinent in Tucson where we get 118 degree days that can melt a plastic mail box and bake cookies in a car. If there's one competition I like to win at the car meets, it's not largest turbine housing, but the competition for coldest combustion chamber with cheapest high octane fuel (C16 too pricey, but E85 is perfect).
« Last Edit: July 08, 2018, 12:35:28 AM by FourAces »

Offline digitalsolo

Taking down a well setup 1000 RWHP C6Z will require an awful lot of dollars applied.

You'd need:

Forged motor
Turbo/blower/lots of nitrous
Built transmission (automatic will be more reliably fast)
Aftermarket rear (I'd look at a solid axle at that kind of power level)
Standalone engine management + professional tuning
Big fuel system
Lots of suspension work
At least a roll bar

If you're experienced in building things like this at a high level or capable of learning it quickly, you're looking at 40-45k dollars in parts.   If you need a shop to build the turbo kit, etc. you're 50k+ easily.   Remember to budget an extra 15-20% for ideas that didn't work and parts breakage.   LOTS of parts breakage.

If you want to go run around with 1000 HP cars, go spend 7-8k buying a Fox chassis Mustang that someone already put 10-15k in suspension in, put a 800 WHP LS in it with a turbo, and run bottom 9s/high 8s.   An FD is a long way from the best platform to build a drag car out of...
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline spacevomit

To be clear, you are talking about a drag strip? I would say forget that guy and build the best car you can for your use.

Offline FourAces

Taking down a well setup 1000 RWHP C6Z will require an awful lot of dollars applied.

You'd need:

Forged motor
Turbo/blower/lots of nitrous
Built transmission (automatic will be more reliably fast)
Aftermarket rear (I'd look at a solid axle at that kind of power level)
Standalone engine management + professional tuning
Big fuel system
Lots of suspension work
At least a roll bar

If you're experienced in building things like this at a high level or capable of learning it quickly, you're looking at 40-45k dollars in parts.   If you need a shop to build the turbo kit, etc. you're 50k+ easily.   Remember to budget an extra 15-20% for ideas that didn't work and parts breakage.   LOTS of parts breakage.

If you want to go run around with 1000 HP cars, go spend 7-8k buying a Fox chassis Mustang that someone already put 10-15k in suspension in, put a 800 WHP LS in it with a turbo, and run bottom 9s/high 8s.   An FD is a long way from the best platform to build a drag car out of...

There was a 1200whp FD for sale on here not too long ago, it was $50k, was my favorite color too, CYM. I think that car would beat a 1000whp C6 Z06, but he said he needed a better clutch and it'd get another 100whp or something.

Sounds like I'd need to either go Owner/Operator (which is a long term goal if this CDL shit works out) or work my ass off in the oil fields, neither of which I'm entirely opposed to, to be honest.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2018, 01:54:17 PM by FourAces »

Offline digitalsolo

I know of a ~1200 RWHP turn key LS/FD available now for under 50k, FWIW.   But building one yourself will take a long time or cost more than those numbers.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline FourAces

Taking down a well setup 1000 RWHP C6Z will require an awful lot of dollars applied.

You'd need:

Forged motor
Turbo/blower/lots of nitrous
Built transmission (automatic will be more reliably fast)
Aftermarket rear (I'd look at a solid axle at that kind of power level)
Standalone engine management + professional tuning
Big fuel system
Lots of suspension work
At least a roll bar

If you're experienced in building things like this at a high level or capable of learning it quickly, you're looking at 40-45k dollars in parts.   If you need a shop to build the turbo kit, etc. you're 50k+ easily.   Remember to budget an extra 15-20% for ideas that didn't work and parts breakage.   LOTS of parts breakage.

If you want to go run around with 1000 HP cars, go spend 7-8k buying a Fox chassis Mustang that someone already put 10-15k in suspension in, put a 800 WHP LS in it with a turbo, and run bottom 9s/high 8s.   An FD is a long way from the best platform to build a drag car out of...

Well I was wondering if the FD RX7 doesn't make a good drag platform, which import vehicle would? Seems to me if you can stuff a V8 in something and put fat tires on the rear, you're a good portion of the way there.

Offline digitalsolo

For a drag car?   Something that is drag raced often, with a solid rear axle and lots of aftermarket support.

Imports?   There aren't any, really.    I'd build a 90s Tacoma into a drag vehicle before an FD, if I was starting at a zero point and wanted to go fast.    My point is just that you're going to spend a lot of time/money re-architecting things to make an IRS equipped vehicle designed for road racing/autoX into a great drag vehicle.   If you just want to do it, a-ok.   It's just the hard way to get there.   There's a reason drag strips are full of Mustangs/Camaros.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline freeskier7791

The fb rx7 is by far the best of the RX7s to  uild a drag racer only cause it so light, you will still need to redo the rear end and tub it to fight decent tires

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Offline Supe

Buy a G-Body or Fox that hooks with a BBC and spray the shit out of it.  Done!

Offline FourAces

Maybe the pissing contest isn't worth settling. I should be happy with 10's without having to "re-architect-ing" a fuck ton of shit.

Almost started trucking last Friday, come to find out DOT gives a shit about meds, apparently my shortform DOT physical card doesn't cover that. Need my longform med on me, and my prescription pills in a bottle instead of 7 day containers.

I was the n00b on the truck, no one's pissed at me, I'm not in trouble, unlike if a DOT officer found I was taking meds without a longform medical on me and no prescription pill bottles, then I'd be in a whole fuck ton of trouble and just trashed my new Class A CDL.

And before I can get back in the truck, my carrier has to approve my meds. Hope this shit works out, I want an FD.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2018, 04:40:50 AM by FourAces »

Offline freeskier7791

Good luck man!

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Offline frijolee

There's always someone faster.  Even if you're the national champion, then it's a question of whether you can stay there.  This is a great chance to practice laying down the old grudges, IMHO.

+1 to a FB if you want to build an import racer (Ronin LS engine mounts will work if you do the FC subframe swap).

+1 that a fox body mustang with a built stick axle is an easier way to go fast if you only care about straight lines.
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
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Offline 1point3liter

 :secret:
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