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Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2017, 04:47:50 PM »
Any cam is a boost cam if you like to party.

Offline largeorangefont

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2017, 06:04:13 PM »
Any cam is a boost cam if you like to party.

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Offline freeskier7791

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2017, 01:00:39 PM »
I think if you start driving without traction control, It will be a lot more fun, but if you wanna throw a bunch of money and make it ridiculous that is cool too
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Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2017, 02:05:23 PM »
Spinning isn't really fun. I don't know how intrusive the traction control is...but when you're actually trying to go fast spinning gets annoying.

Offline largeorangefont

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2017, 06:07:32 PM »
It is fun when you are just over the limits of traction. It sucks when every time you stab the gas the car just blows the tires off. And if you put traction control in, it just neuters any power. Even with traction control, the car needs actual traction to be fast.
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Offline freeskier7791

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2017, 09:25:02 AM »
It is fun when you are just over the limits of traction. It sucks when every time you stab the gas the car just blows the tires off. And if you put traction control in, it just neuters any power. Even with traction control, the car needs actual traction to be fast.

That is what I meant, it is definitely fun to have tires that are appropriately sized for the power without blowing the tires off or having traction control kick in all the time
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Offline kinger

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2017, 01:24:07 PM »
Sooooo I missed it.  14 psi on 91 on this motor? 
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Offline frijolee

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2017, 04:01:52 PM »
Sooooo I missed it.  14 psi on 91 on this motor? 

You paid top dollar for one of the nicest swaps on the board, just so you can rip it apart and start over?  Doesn't make sense to me but it kinda looks like you're starting to ask questions to validate a choice you're already leaning toward.   If your heart is set on boost, my recommendation would be to sell your powertrain complete and build a new motor to go with it.  Since everything else on your car has been done "properly" why stop now?

As to running 14 psi while on Am/Pm's finest 91 octane...  What could go wrong?  You should probably just disconnect your knock sensors and take it to the Texas mile while you're at it...  :banghead:

Jesting aside, the 10.4:1 leaves you a little margin for forced induction but not very much.  I run 11.2:1 NA on 91 and it rarely knocks.  If you just can't leave it alone, you're better off talking to speed shops who do these combos all the time.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2017, 04:35:14 PM by frijolee »
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Offline largeorangefont

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2017, 05:01:37 PM »
Sooooo I missed it.  14 psi on 91 on this motor? 

Two options

1. Turn off the traction control, buy some good tires 100 treadwear tires or drag radials to fully utilize the power you are making now. After that evaluate if your question is still valid.

If you don't at least do that that you are wasting your time and effort on many levels :)

2. If you don't want to do that, be prepared to turbo the car, rebuild most of the drivetrain, add a Ronin widebody and 18X12 inch wheels with at least 315s on them and be $15K+ lighter in the wallet after the car is dialed in.. And we can talk again about why your car is still slow and does not scare you. At which point I will tell you to go buy drag radials or 100 treadwear tires, and you will come back after that and tell us the car is for sale because it is basically unuseable.  :yay:

To directly answer your question, it will run fine with a safe tune with low timing.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2017, 05:10:24 PM by largeorangefont »
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Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2017, 05:55:59 PM »
You can do anything at least once :)

Offline kinger

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2017, 08:51:45 PM »
You guys are funny. 


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Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2017, 10:06:08 PM »
You guys are funny. 


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Offline kinger

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2017, 09:40:53 AM »
Simple question, thanks for advice.  No plans for FI just curious what was possible.  I thought it was maybe a little more proven and someone would say I run X psi on a similar set up, or go here and plug your motor info in and it will help decide what fuel is appropriate, etc.  What I am hearing is its not simple and no one really knows.  There will be nothing ripped out or destroyed :)  Initial thought was a mild procharger set up and still have AC might be appealing to some.  I'll try tires first and see if I can get used to that :)  Thanks!
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Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2017, 04:50:04 AM »
You could easily run boost at 10.4:1 with meth injection or e85. I'd be concerned about ring endgap on your forged bottom end. If they weren't gapped for FI they could butt.

Easy 600whp with a procharger. Probably 10-12 psi.


Offline Exidous

Re: Boost on my 10.4:1 stroker how much?
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2017, 10:09:48 AM »
If you ever find yourself in a position where the car isn't scary enough just sell me the Racelogic. You don't need boost. :-) Seriously though, I'll buy it! :-) I've been scouring for a little while now for the RLTC8 with no luck. Super disappointed I didn't pick up 1.3L's when he sold it.

I contemplated going with a procharger. Even had everything I needed minus the head unit. Sold it all. I realized that the car is already faster than most anything out there at 450whp. It's still a blast to drive. It only gets "boring" in 4th and 5th at which point turning gets dicey as hell. I like turning.
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