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Title: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:14:59 PM
Update - 6-22-16 -> This build officially wrapped up between April and May of 2016 or pages in the mid 60s of this build thread. My priorities have changed vastly over the 6 year build so when I met all of my goals and the car was finished I expressed my interest to sell and the car was purchased before I was able to even officially list it. Member kinger is the current owner of the car now and his thread picks up where mine left off. You can visit his build thread here (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=24359.0)

Hello,

My name is Lane Simmons, I'm an Electrical Engineer and I have been interested in building a V8 RX7 for about 4 years before beginning this build. I've owned 2 mr2's over the past 10 years but recently got my chance to switch over to RX7's and I made my move after selling my mr2 turbo to my younger brother.

I was very fortunate to meet someone locally who was selling their 1993 FD roller + 1 7/8 JTR headers + full Hinson's V8 conversion over eBay. After talking to the owner extensively over the phone we worked out a price and I purchased it directly. At the time, he was pulling the LS1 he'd built for the RX7 to put into his 69 (If I remember correctly) Camaro. However, a few weeks down the road he offered to sell me the engine, transmission, and clutch as well because someone made an offer on the Camaro he apparently couldn't refuse. It turned out that it was an offer I too could not refuse

Plan -

Engine:
Ls1 aluminum block built for 10.4:1 compression with only 4k miles on it as built.
Complete assembly is balanced
Forged flat top 3.90" Mahle pistons
Forged Eagle rods
Forged Eagle stroker crank with 4" stroke designed to displace 383CI.
Patriot LQ9 heads with 72cc chambers 2.055"/1.60" valves with harland sharp 1.7 roller rockers.
Comp pushrods and lifters.
Gm performance oil Pump and chain
Arp rod and main bolts
Trick flow head gaskets
Patriot custom cam .585"/.585" lift, 226/226 duration and 112 lsa
0 miles on the Water pump, Ac Compressor and both tensioners
Brand new msd coils and wires.
LS6 Intake + PCV conversion

Clutch:
Monster Stage 2

Transmission:
30 spline Viper T56 with Corvette bell and tail housings.

Rear End:
Cobra 04 pumpkin with 3.55 gears and DSS axles.

Fuel:
Sumped fuel tank
Bosch 044 pump
SVO #42 Greentop injectors
Aeromotive FPR
8AN Supply line
6AN return line

Drivetrain mounts:
All Samberg with cobra cradle + DSS driveshaft and axles. All the Hinson related stuff you see in these pictures has been sold.

Electronics: (Done by yours truly)
Downsized Body harness
Relocating relay box, X-01, and X-02 to a new built from scratch Delpi Fuse/Relay box mounted where X-01 and X-02 normally sit.
Full Speedhut gauge install
Racelogic TC

Suspension/Wheels/Brakes/Steering:
Full Superpro bushing kit
New pillowballs
Koni Yellows + GC Coilover upgrades
Hawk HPS pads
Stoptech SS brake lines
17x10 +35 5zigen FN01R-C's with 275/40/17R and 255/40/17F tires
Work lug nuts
Power Steering line by Pez

Cooling:
Samberg Rev2 radiator + CAI

Exterior:
99+ JDM Tails
Shaved spoiler, wiper arm, and spray nozzle (My build started with a touring chassis)
Aluminum door handles
Hella Twin Supertone Horns
DIY HID Projector Upgrade which includes the following:
Morimoto 3Five Ballasts (35w)
Bi-xenon: Morimoto Mini projectors
Philips 85122+ (4300K) bulbs
E55 Shrouds
Crystal Clear lenses on stock RX7 light housings.

Interior:
Tan to Black conversion. All I have so far is some sub 30k black leather seats I picked up 2 weeks ago.
ACC carpet
MGW T56 short shifter
MGW 6 speed shift knob
Momo Tuner Steering Wheel
Momo Hub
NRG Quick Release
Redline leather trim
SakeBomb aluminum passenger handle
JasonS floor mats
Lizard Skin sound control

Exhaust:
1 7/8" JTR Longtube Headers
Custom dual 3" exhaust by Kevin Doe

Power:
400-500WHP :D


Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:24:17 PM
My shop back when I had room to walk around.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:26:13 PM
MGW T56 short shifter:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/22.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/23.jpg)
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Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:27:18 PM
Worked in the shop for about 6 hours today. Didn't accomplish much. Managed to get the car on jack stands (holy crap this baby's light!). I also installed a driver's side aluminum door handle from www.rx7doorhandles.com (http://www.rx7doorhandles.com) (can get them for $160 on eBay (yeah, hindsight is 20/20)). I tried to tape up my engine intake/exhaust ports, but even after degreasing my painter's tape wouldn't stick to the surface of the block/head. I see people all the time with this kind of tape on the engine. What do you have to do to make it stick?? For the time being I just stuffed everything with shop towels. Finally, I spent a 2 hours chasing and cleaning 5 block holes for the transmission. Apparently, a PO mounted the engine to and engine stand using 3/8" - 16 bolts instead of using M10-1.50 bolts and marred the threads. Wasn't catastrophic, but I'm a perfectionist when it comes to threads and I spent the time to make it right.
Other than that, I just cleaned and organized. Bought a propane bullet heater and a 1000Watt tripod mounted light system to help keep the shop workable so that had to be installed and set up :)

Got a new toy the other day too:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/32.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/33.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/34.jpg)

A low mileage Cobra Diff from lsoo7! Thanks bud!

Now all I need to do is see if I can find some prebuilt DSS axles from somebody who isn't using them and I'll be set :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/35.jpg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:29:01 PM
Got a little work done Saturday. I'm trying to focus on cleaning and prepping the engine bay for paint, so I tried to remove what I could. Because of failing shop lights (Damn cheap Autozone lights), I spent half the afternoon running to Lowes to find replacement 500wat halogen bulbs. In the end, I really only managed to remove the engine harness.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/43.jpg)

Nice to have one of these bad boys when it's snowing outside :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/51.jpg)

Can you spot what's missing here?

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/44.jpg)

I bought the RX7 with the ABS deleted but since this is going to be my daily driver, I sold the ABS delete to reinstall the ABS.

The ABS delete looks like a well thought out solution.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/45.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/46.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/47.jpg)

Good bends and was very stealthy.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:30:19 PM
I managed to almost completely strip the engine bay and interior. The only thing left in the engine bay is short brake hardlines that go to the fenders, windshield wiper actuator (how the hell does this even come out!?!), subframe (only loosely connected), and the hood latch assembly. I went ahead and stripped out the body harness (not for the feint of heart for those who haven't attempted it) because I want to strip out all the unnecessary circuits and because it will make painting the engine bay easier. I'm also stripping out the entire airbag system as I'm planning on going with an aftermarket steering wheel anyway.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/62.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/71.jpg)

Something I noticed when removing everything up front is that if you have your fd on jackstands, the front end gets so light that the rear two jackstands form a pivot point and it becomes VERY easy to tip it backwards. Because of this, I put a jack under the diff to stabilize things :ohnoes:

I also worked on stripping out the interior:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/63.jpg)

The only reason the carpet is still there is because I haven't removed the rear bins. I'm planning on dynamatting everything and putting some new black carpet in. Also, while the dash and ducting are out, I'm going to thoroughly clean everything, especially the ducting. I didn't take pictures, but the blower fan is full of crap along with the evaporator and heater core. It'll be nice to know that the FD will be blowing non-smelly air when it goes back together :D

That's pretty much it so far. Next week I'll hopefully be able to start prepping the engine bay for paint so that I'll be able to paint it two weeks from now. I'm planning on painting the bay and all my mounting hardware with POR15. I bought a 30 gallon compressor the other week that I think will be up to the task:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/57.jpg)

All I need to do now is buy the paint and buy a paint gun. Any suggestions for a single purpose (POR15) gun??

Oh, and look at all the goodies that showed up over the last 2 weeks!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/64.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/65.jpg)
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(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/70.jpg)
The last pic is the ABS Actuator that ssrx8 sold me (great guy). I also got the hard lines from him but didn't take pictures.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:31:22 PM
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/77.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/73.jpg)

Whole lotta nothing happening lately. That's a picture of the shop 2 weeks ago. It's way too crowded. I'm really at the point where stuff NEEDS to go back into the car because I don't have room for any more disassembling. I'm using the PVC to build the framework and the box fans for intake/exhaust of a home-made clean room for the front of my car for painting the engine bay. My engine bay has been degreased and sanded for 2 weeks, but I keep finding things I need to take care of before I paint. Mainly, cut/grind down the lip that interferes with some intake manifolds. The P/O beat the lip down and I didn't want to paint it like that, sooooo, I bought an air cutter and an angle grinder and got to work. It took fooorever. Probably didn't buy the right tools for the job (rotary cutter). I felt like I could have ground it down faster. All-in-all I probably spent 3-4 hours getting it right. After that I had a lovely coat of powdered sheet metal all over my engine bay danget! Cleaning is a PITA for me because my shop/storage facility doesn't have running water, so I have to buy jugs of water and use a pressurized sprayer to wash with. I won't even go into the details of how keep the water off the floor...

The other thing that's been keeping me from painting the engine bay is this:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/79.jpg)

After reading through through Richard's (http://"http://www.v8rx7forum.com/showthread.php?53548-My-93-FD-LS2-Build") thread, I've decided that while I've got everything stripped down I might as well take care of the wheel wells:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/81.jpg)
Prepped and masked.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/75.jpg)
Done

I LOVE this stuff! I've only done the front wheel wells, but as soon as I disassemble my rear end I'm going to do the rear wells, my fuel tank, and I'll probably end up doing the transmission tunnel. Buy this stuff in cases gentlemen because you'll want to paint everything with it :D

Lets see, what else do I have to report..... Oh, I got my Cobra inners..

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/78.jpg)

Some misc goodies:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/76.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/72.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/80.jpg)

AND! I ordered a set of 5zigen FN01R-C Hot's in matte black from 1010tires.com. Four 17x10" with a +35 offsets:
(http://www.1010tires.com/images/wheels/super/5zigen_hv_mb_lg_super.jpg)

I'll be running 255/40/17's in them. Not crazy about stretching the tires, but I'll need the clearance even after a fender roll I'm afraid. Oh well, worth it in my opinion. This is the stance I'm after:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/ballinnmiami240sx/FD/100_2988.jpg)
ballinnmiami240sx's RX7 from the club minus the red pinstripes.

I hadn't planned on buying wheels this early in the project, but I decided to go ahead because 101tires had them in stock and I didn't want to deal with availability problems 2 months down the road.

Guess that's it. I think I'm going to take a few days off the first of April to have a paint week. Other than my engine bay, I've got subframes and a boatload of suspension parts to dress.

Cheers!
Lane

PS
Still working on the front harness. It's a real bear. I HATE The X connectors. Every other connector is so well documented, but the X connectors just pop in-and-out of every page. You basically have to read the manual cover to cover for each X connector while taking detailed notes to know what you can ax and what you need to keep. Working on X-7, X-10, and X-4 at the moment.. Ugh...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:32:13 PM
I figured since Richard could show off his awesome wheels, I could try and do the same :D

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Very exciting for me. I've never bought new wheels. Always got hand-me-downs :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2010, 10:32:59 PM
Took Thursday off for a 4 day weekend to try and wrap up my engine bay paint job.

As mentioned earlier, I've been working on notching the firewall so I'll have the option of upgrading to a fast intake later without messing up my pretty paint.
This is it after a lot of grinding and a very small amount of filler.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/94.jpg)

You can see it in later pics but I also hit it with some high build primer. Smoothed out very well :)

I finished the work on the notch on Thursday. Then I finished my front wiring harness on Friday! WOOHOO! I don't have pictures, but I'll post them soon. I haven't re-wrapped it yet, because I want to test everything on the car, but after triple checking everything I'm pretty sure I have it the way I want it. It's not the fanciest delete / rewire, but it works for me.

Things I deleted:
X11
X12
X-9
X-5
B1-01 - ECU Plugs
D1-02 - Washer Motor
B1-09 – Igniter
B1-10 – Condenser
B1-05 - Fuel Pump Resistor
B2-01, B2-02, B2-03, B2-04, B2-05, and B2,06 - Basically the entire stock fan relay system :D

As you can see, I didn't delete the relay box. I opted to keep it since personally I think the fan relays just hanging out in the engine bay are waay uglier + the Samburg radiator does a good job of hiding the relay box :)

Some things I rewired:
1. The 30A fused Radio relay now controls the Taurus fan level 1 (actuated by a the LS1 PCM grounding the relay coil)
2. The Circuit Opening relay and the Fuel pump relay are fused through the 60A Cooling Fan Fuse and power the Taurus fan 
     level 2 in parallel (actuated by a the LS1 PCM grounding the relay coils).
3. The Air Pump Relay takes a GND AC request from the HVAC control and turns it into a 12v signal for the LS1 PCM
4. The AC Relay takes a GND signal from the LS1 PCM and provides 12v to the AC solenoid.
5. All the control wires for the above modifications were routed to the passenger kick panel side of the harness

I think that's pretty much it. The harness slimmed down a little bit and I depinned the connectors that lost wires. I think it will look much cleaner installed. It will certainly be easier to wire the LS1 ECU as most of what it needs is now in the passenger kick panel :)

On Friday I finished prepping my engine bay for paint, built a makeshift paint booth, and masked 90% of the bay.

Double filtered box fans :)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/93.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/91.jpg)
Exhaust fan in the front

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/92.jpg)
Input fan up top

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/95.jpg)
Inside

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/96.jpg)
Masked

Finally, on Sunday, I painted the engine bay.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/97.jpg)
1 coat of POR15 and 1 coat of BLACKCOAT (POR15's UV protected topcoat)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/100.jpg)
Glad I built a tent. POR15 is naaasty stuff

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Respirator after first coat (Don't worry, I had extra filters)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/98.jpg)
What the box fans picked up

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The $30 workhorse

What I learned about spraying POR15:
1. Plan to have more light at your disposal than you think you need
2. Get the best goggles you can afford - The $2 splash gaurd "goggles" at lowes didn't cut it. Even though the have an egonomic look, they aren't airtight and POR15 fumes are serious! Serious enough that even though I couldn't 'smell' the fumes, my eyes 'felt' them :(
3. GET THE BEST GOGGLES YOU CAN AFFORD! - If you are shooting in the southeast, it's humid, and your mask will fog. I had some drips in my paint because I couldn't see the wet edge of the paint (my fault for continuing). Fixed it with a $12 pair that sealed to my face and was thermal.
4. POR15 solvent burns! Get some overspray on your ankle, just wipe it off with some POR15 solvent right? Wrong! Funny thing is, their solvent is greasy and I had to use Acetone get it all off and stop the burning. I know... I'm stupid :D

Overall, it was a good learning experience. Now I feel better about buying a better spray gun because I think my confidence is high enough that I'll actually use it.

Next week I'm going to try and paint my subframe parts.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: FCs Rule on May 06, 2010, 11:14:46 PM
nice looks like you got things going right!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 93silverbullet on May 07, 2010, 01:31:12 AM
Pretty!  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 07, 2010, 11:34:26 AM
Lane, glad to see you over here.   Your thread in the electrical section (that I poached over to here) is one of the most useful in a while, I just used it myself last weekend.   :)

Build looks great, looks like you're doing it the right way.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Venom13132 on May 08, 2010, 11:26:19 AM
nice!  keep the pictures coming
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: bullitz400 on May 08, 2010, 07:21:32 PM
Looks good! Keep the pics coming !
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: James.Smith on May 08, 2010, 07:53:31 PM
Mississippi hell yea... Come see me some time..
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 09, 2010, 03:15:55 AM
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I should have a batch of new pictures up tomorrow to show what I've been doing over the last month.

James.Smith: Yeah, I'll keep you in mind next time I'm going through Memphis. Any good tuners or exhaust fabricators up your way? I'm going to need a dyno and a good tuner once I get this thing on the road :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 10, 2010, 02:20:09 AM
Just contracted Ray about getting the following parts:
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The hard lines that connect the front calipers to the soft line brake lines (they are short / small and I need both sides)
FD01-43-710A
FD01-43-720A

Brake line clips and brackets (All related to holding the hardlines to the firewall)
(2) NA20-45-920A
(1) F048-45-964A
(1) F100-45-92X
(1) B455-45-916
(2) FB01-45-914

Fuses:
(2) FB01-67-099 60A Fuses
(2) H116-67-099 40A Fuses

(1) FD01-50-790A - Cowl Kit

(2) 26-131 or MGA5S-26-15X - This is the front bearing assembly kit that comes with the front race, bearing, ABS speed sensor, and 5 studs
(2) LA01-33-042B - Axle Stub Nuts
(2) J001-26-151 - Rear Wheel Bearings
(2) J001-26-139A -Retainer C Clips
(10) B455-22-062 - Wheel Studs
(2) LA01-33-042B - Rear Wheel Nuts

(1) FB05-49-240 - Front Caliper Rebuild Kit
(1) FDY1-26-46Z - REar Caliper Rebuild Kit


I doubt it'll be cheap enough for me to consider, but I would be interested to see how much a key set would cost.
FD01-09-010C

If not, I'll most likely be interested in purchasing what I believe is needed to keep my drivers side lock cylinder in place:
99736-0410B or 99865-0420B - I think it's just a screw

Steering Column Boots
I didn't see any options to just buy the dust boots for the steering column in my parts diagram. Is it possible to just buy the two dust boots that
fit on the steering column between the rack and the firewall?

Steering Rack Boot
I have one boot brand new in the bag but I don't have it on hand. The parts diagram lists a left and right. Is their really a difference or can I just
buy another boot 'dealers choice' to complete my set? If there is a difference I can get the part number of the one I already have.

Rear Pillowball bushings
I need all 6 of the rear lower control arm pillowball bushings, three one each side and dust boots

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Finished buttoning up my tail housing today too:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/107.jpg)
Pressing in the viper output shaft bushing (I was flush when I finished)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/108.jpg)
Viper output shaft seal

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/109.jpg)
Pressing in the seal

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/110.jpg)
Output shaft porn!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/111.jpg)
Shrinkage :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/112.jpg)
All Done

If I didn't already explain it, this T56 came from a 2001 Viper. It has a Fbody input shaft, front plate, bell housing, and tail housing. I bought it 98% done. I just had to have the tail housing machined to accept the viper seal. It was machined for the bushing, but for some reason the seal section hadn't been touched.

Here's some shots of the work I've been doing over the last few weeks paint wise:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/113.jpg)
Rear wheel wells masked for 3M Rubberized Underbody spray

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/114.jpg)
Finished

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/115.jpg)
1 1/2" PVC Cube to hang stuff on inside my paint booth

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/116.jpg)
Booth skeleton and cube

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/117.jpg)
Xray view

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/118.jpg)
Complete


(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/119.jpg)
Results - Front to Back = Samberg Transmission Brace, Cobra Diff Mount, LS1 Subframe, and OEM Rear Subframe

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/120.jpg)
Too bad this stuff sits under the car :(

All done with POR15

I also coated my transmission tunnel with 3M Rubberized Underbody spray, but I didn't get pictures of it because I didn't want to remove my masking while it was still wet.

I think that does it for paint except for little things like the Brake booster, which I'll probably do with a rattle can. I'm excited because I'm about to start putting things back IN the car :D

Cheers!
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 10, 2010, 10:02:39 AM
Lane,

Great work, I love the detailed pics!

That tranny ought to be stout!   :D     I have that same press at home, love that thing.   :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Venom13132 on May 10, 2010, 10:55:27 AM
nice updates!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 11, 2010, 01:51:26 PM
Koni's came in today :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/122.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/121.jpg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 11, 2010, 02:02:55 PM
Mmmm, Konis...  :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 24, 2010, 02:47:34 AM
Made a good deal of progress over the last two weeks.

I recently made the decision that since my car is going to be more of a daily driver, maybe I should downgrade the clutch from a 6 puck to something with a little more surface area. After talking to the guys from Monster, they graciously allowed me to return my stage 4 clutch disk in exchange for a stage 2. This is their latest compound and I haven?t even seen pictures of a disk like mine until it arrived :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/124.jpg)

This is my stage 4 clutch disk that I sent in for an exchange:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Clutch/IMG_1480.jpg)

The guys are Monster Clutch were truly a pleasure to deal with. If this cluth performs as I expect it to they?ve gained a lifetime customer.

Installed:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/123.jpg)

Now here?s a picture of my T56 with the slave, clutch line and remote bleeder installed. This picture really makes it look like a over-greased the input shaft? I?m trying to tell myself that it?ll be ok. Hope it?s not going to cause a friction problem down the road :(

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/125.jpg)

Spent some time cleaning my engine too. While I was at it I removed the coils so I could take a look at what was under the valve covers:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/130.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/131.jpg)

Pretty happy to see the harland sharp rockers and the upgraded springs because I bought this engine with a lot of faith in the seller since I couldn?t tear it down on site. So far, everything he said has been the truth :)

Now for some BEEF!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/126.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/127.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/128.jpg)

And a picture with some more of my shop in the background. I know?.. I work in chaos :)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/129.jpg)

On to other things?
This is what $1k gets you from Ray:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/132.jpg)

Found some time to replace my pillow balls today?

The scoundrels:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/133.jpg)

The heros:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/134.jpg)

Action shot:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/135.jpg)

Done:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/136.jpg)



I think that?s it for the good news?

I found something lovely when I removed the bushing that was adapting the oil pressure port to a  1/8? NPT for a manual gauge.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/137.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/138.jpg)

Apparently another example of metric and SAE confusion as this bushing should have been threaded for M16x1.5. The end result is that the first few threads are really torn up. Thankfully the PO didn?t try to force the bushing in any further. I?m going to order a   M16x1.5 tap and try to carefully chase what?s left of the threads. Hopefully I can get something usable. The bottom threads look promising :)

One last thing. Here?s a picture of the transmission tunnel I painted two weeks ago with 3M rubberized underbody coating :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/142.jpg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: James.Smith on May 24, 2010, 05:48:26 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I should have a batch of new pictures up tomorrow to show what I've been doing over the last month.

James.Smith: Yeah, I'll keep you in mind next time I'm going through Memphis. Any good tuners or exhaust fabricators up your way? I'm going to need a dyno and a good tuner once I get this thing on the road :)

Lane

Damn it man.. I want to see that car..  There are a few mostly in Memphis of course.
http://www.dynospeedracing.com/ (http://www.dynospeedracing.com/)
http://www.bbandtracing.com/ (http://www.bbandtracing.com/)

Just do not put a bulldog on it anywhere..  Lane knows what I'm talking about..  Hotty Tottie !
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 25, 2010, 03:06:34 PM
Thank for the suggestions James! I especially like the look of http://www.dynospeedracing.com/ (http://www.dynospeedracing.com/)
If I come up there for a tune I'll give you a holler.

Oh and big vinyl bulldog decal on the hood. It's happening ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 01, 2010, 03:28:13 AM
Got a good bit done over my three day weekend:


Cleaned up my rack and installed new boots.  Afterwards I installed the rack spacers + Superpro bushings on my Samburg subframe:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/144.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/143.jpg)

Making a hole to roll my engine around:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/145.jpg)

Getting the level right:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/146.jpg)

Me - Very Excited :)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/147.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/148.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/149.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/150.jpg)

Aligning the motor mounts:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/151.jpg)

All done! (My brother and helper for the day)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/152.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/153.jpg)

Stripping the interior for the transmission brace install (among other things):
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/157.jpg)

Installing Samburg's transmission mount:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/154.jpg)

Dropping my rear 93 subframe so my 94 subframe can go in along with my Samburg Cobra diff subframe and differential.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/155.jpg)

Out:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/156.jpg)


I actually got my 94 subframe in today, but didn't snap any pictures. I'm pretty confident that my car will be running in a month. I have made a few changes to my plan electrically and I'm modifying my front harness so that I have 1 fuse / relay box in the engine bay instead of 3. I'm about half way done, but I'll probably spend the rest of the week wrapping it up. Next thing on the list to do is to install the cobra diff, take drive shaft measurements, and make the order. Likewise, I need to design, order, and install my fuel system. That should all happen in the next 2 weeks.

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: TRISPEEDFD3S on June 03, 2010, 01:10:19 AM
Your build is awesome.  I lie how you've basically recondition your engine bay, underbody, and wheel wells. NICE!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: twokrx7 on June 03, 2010, 10:10:58 AM
Just catching up on your build, love the makeshift paint booth and the undercoating, keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 07, 2010, 01:59:29 AM
TRISPEEDFD3S & twokrx7. Thank you gentlemen. Your comments are encouraging :)

Well I felt like I got a lot accomplished this weekend, but I don't have much to show for it.

Firstly, I finally got around to building my Cobra axles:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/164.jpg)

I've played around with CV joints before on my MR2, so I knew what to expect. It's a messy messy time consuming job, but I think the end result is worth it. As a bonus I wrote a mini tutorial for how to assemble the tripod end correctly http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=988.0.html (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=988.0.html)
That's all the pictures I took though. Seriously.... I was covered from head to toe in grease Saturday night, so I didn't really want to grab my camera mid assembly :D

Leftovers:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/165.jpg)

Next I started working on prepping my cobra diff and mounting it.

Diff:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/168.jpg)

Samburg modified cover:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/167.jpg)

Prepped for RTV:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/166.jpg)

RTV engaged:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/169.jpg)

Installed:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/170.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/171.jpg)

And some misc shots from under the car:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/172.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/173.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/174.jpg)

Also installed my P/S pump, did the spring mod, and installed the accessory belts:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/175.jpg)

Like I said... Not much to show for ~ 16 hours of work

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 21, 2010, 02:19:20 AM
It's been really hot the last two weekends. Having a to work in triple digits in a storage bin has been slowing me down considerably, but I'm getting by. Just trying to keep hydrated :)

Last weekend I got started on my fuel system:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/189.jpg)

Mounted my external Bosch 044:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/191.jpg)

And my Automotive FPR:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/192.jpg)

It made me mad though, because up until this point I've been thinking I could fenagle my cruise control modulator in there somehow, but now with the master and the FPR occupying the same spot, there's no way I can see without a custom bracket :(

Master and FPR clearance. Looks like a need a remote line to run to my fuel pressure gauge. Need one with a right angle...
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/193.jpg)

Other goodies I got last weekend:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/190.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/188.jpg)

Something I'm working on with the electrical supplies above:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/204.jpg)

Certainly not the best fused relay solution, but I think I'm going to use it for a while.

This week I put my press to work:

I started off replacing the wheel bearings in my Isuzu Hombre. I won't post pictures in my build thread, but it was child's play compared to the RX7 bearings.

Then I started on my RX7 rear bearings:

Pressing out the spindle:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/194.jpg)

I never have been a fan of cutting off the race. I've found that a 2/3 jaw puller works just fine with a little muscle:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/195.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/196.jpg)

Pressing out the bearings:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/197.jpg)

Instead of buying a $19 socket (One of the biggest Autozone sold), I bought a $3 exhaust piece to press out the bearing as shown above as it had the perfect diameter for the job.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/198.jpg)
It's pretty flimsy and it flared the bottom during the press, but it did the job :)

Pressing out the wheel studs:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/199.jpg)

Rear done:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/200.jpg)

I'm also doing the front, but it is much simpler as I only have to unbolt the axle stub nut to replace the hole assembly and I have new ones waiting to go it. Maybe next week

A box of suspension parts that I've been slowly installing super pro bushings into:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/201.jpg)

Some of these have been a royal pain in the ass. Don't get me started on the toe links... I didn't think the diff brace would be much trouble until it did this to my arbor plate:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/203.jpg)
Nuts eh? Oh well, I don't need it anyway as I've got a cobra diff. I was just trying to be nice and install super pro bushing in it so I could sell it to somebody that needed it. Then it goes and breaks my shit! Guess I'll have to sell the two together with some assembly required ;)

Rainbow at the end of the day telling me to wrap it up:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/205.jpg)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: SkEdY on June 21, 2010, 07:23:31 PM
wow that must have made a bang when it went off! lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 28, 2010, 03:17:45 AM
wow that must have made a bang when it went off! lol

Actually it wasn't all that bad. Most of these bushings make a sound like a gunshot when they finally pop. I just thought the bushing finally popped loose until I took a second look and found out it was the press that broke :(

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 28, 2010, 03:28:25 AM
Started this weekend by cleaning up my heatshields before reinstalling them. Note to future swappers. Do yourself a favor and reinstall (if you removed them in the first place) the shields before reinstalling the engine :(

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/206.jpg)

These actually cleaned up a lot easier than I thought they would. 30 minutes of work and they were clean enough to eat off of!

Another thing I did this week was complete my LS6 PCV upgrade using instructions from ls1howto available here:
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=18 (http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=18)

Took a little nibble out of my valley
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/208.jpg)

After cleaning and making the modification:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/209.jpg)

The new LS6 valley cover:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/207.jpg)

Installed + A new LS6 intake, fuel rail, injectors, and throttle body
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/210.jpg)
Note the new PCV routing

Installing Pez's P/S line at the rack:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/212.jpg)

Pez's P/S high pressure connection at the pump:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/213.jpg)
Awesome piece of work by the way. Easy to install and it's built to last a lifetime :)

I rewrapped my coil-pack harness with heat tape since the old tape was ratty:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/214.jpg)

Installed my coils, spark plugs, wires, insulators, and JTR headers:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/215.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/216.jpg)

View of the headers from below:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/217.jpg)

A pic before I started adding accessories to the firewall:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/218.jpg)

Added my brake booster, fuel filter, and brake lines:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/219.jpg)

How I left her for the weekend:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/220.jpg)

That's it for a couple weeks. I'm visiting the folks for July 4th. Maybe I can save some money over the next 2 weeks and get everything ordered I need to get this puppy off the jackstands and onto the road :D

Lane





Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 19, 2010, 02:41:58 AM
I got a good bit done this weekend.

First I started playing with my gauges. I've got 4 speedhut gauges. Coolant Temp, Oil Pressure, Fuel Pressure, and Intake Temp. The intake temperature gauge was actually an accident as I was trying to buy a coolant temp gauge and had a brain fart. Since gauges from speedhut are custom built to order I decided not to go through the hassle of the return and just kept the gauge:

I'm planning on doing a write-up on my install since I believe it's going to be one of the least intrusive installs to date.

The gauges in my cluster were mounted to the OEM plexiglass gauge shield.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/227.jpg)

When the speedhut gauge bezels are removed the housings have little nubs on the front the make securing them to the gauge shield a cinch!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/242.jpg)

All I had to do was drill holes in the gauge shield to hold the numbs and support it with fabricated brackets.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/243.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/228.jpg)

You can see above that I also went ahead and pre-drilled the hole for the gauges program button in the gauge shield.

The result being a very OEM install with a very shallow mounting depth (~ 1inch)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/233.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/229.jpg)

The other 2 gauges got the on dash gauge pod:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/230.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/231.jpg)

For the last bit of my weekend I worked on rebuilding and painting my calipers then installing my suspension.

Prepped for paint after rebuild:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/234.jpg)

Painted with POR15's caliper paint:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/235.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/236.jpg)

Notes about the caliper paint. The front calipers were the hardest calipers I've ever painted. The biggest reason was that I was using the recommended sponge brush brush also because the smooth surface is not forgiving when it comes to brush strokes. Also, it was 100 degrees in my shop so the paint wanted to dry very quickly. I ended up having to sand the first two coats almost off to put down a third coat with a normal bristle based brush. The finish wasn't flawless, but better than before. The dimpled finish on the rear cast calipers was much more forgiving and they didn't give me any trouble :)

I assembled my koni + ground control coilover system and got busy installing it:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/konigc1.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/239.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/240.jpg)

Here's a shot where you can see the cobra axles I worked so hard on :)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/241.jpg)
I am aware that my rear strut's aren't bolted at the bottom mount... I misplaced those bolts somewhere... Dammit!

Where I left the project for the weekend:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/238.jpg)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on July 19, 2010, 10:56:20 AM
Lookin good man.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 19, 2010, 11:09:51 AM
Lookin' good Lane.   :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 26, 2010, 02:32:44 AM
Thanks guys. Your complements keep me going :)

Well, this weekend was a nice slice of hell. I decided to go ahead and sound proof my interior with lizard skin spray on sound control while I had everything stripped out. A big part of the job is stripping the stock sound dampening mats.  Thought it would take a weekend... I was wrong.

I've read all the threads on the club about doing this and knew it was going to be challenging, but nothing prepared me for this.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/250.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/244.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/245.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/246.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/247.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/248.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/249.jpg)

That took two days of HARD work with a heat gun and a paint scraper. I've got chemical burns on my arms and legs, temperature burns on my fingers, shredded hands, and a bruised & cut head. It's not easy fitting a 6.1" man in all the little nooks and crannies of the RX7 cabin to remove this stuff. Plus it doesn't help that a stripped down cabin is essentially an obstacle course of exposed studs and sharp corners.
I know... Everyone says to use dry ice, but I couldn't find any in the one-horse-town I live in... Still have to knock out the trunk area next week before I can vacuum, clean, and prep for the spray on sound insulation.

This is what I plan on using:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/251.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/252.jpg)

Disappointed I didn't accomplish more this weekend.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: lackskill on July 26, 2010, 03:50:35 AM
I didn't know that Mascoat is associated with Lizard Skin.  I worked with a Mascoat product called Delta T Industrial about a year ago at my last job.  The local rep came up and we did a little test.  We used 4" pipe and built a little steam manifold that was essentially a very inefficient steam heater (4" pipe capped both ends with a couple bleeds and a steam trap fed with a 1" 140# steam line).  We coated the exterior in the Mascoat product ranging in thickness from .125 to .250 with the intention of seeing how effective of a thermal barrier it was.  The temperature of the steam is ~360*F (140# steam).  We were initially a little disappointed because there was very little variance in temperature from the .125 thickness to the .250 thickness (~220-240*F measured with both a Fluke 116 w/ direct thermalcouple attachment and a generic IR thermometer) and at both thicknesses the temperatures were well above the OSHA/WISHA guidelines for personnel protection at heights of less than 6' so we would still have to use a traditional insulation if we wanted to use that product.  But then the sales rep put his hand on the manifold..and held it there for like 2 minutes.  He said that's about how long it took for enough thermal transfer could take place for it to feel hot.  His hand wasn't blistered or burned (lol) so I put my hand on it and sure as shit I was able to leave it on there for a good 2 plus minutes before it felt hot (note that I do NOT have a high thermal pain tolerance - a 100*F hot tub is too hot for me).  By hot, I mean about as hot as I can make my tap water, so about 160-170*F would be my guess.  He said it had something to do with how heat is transferred and that product specializes in blocking heat transfer.  It was very cool stuff.  If Lizard Skin is from the same group of people that developed that product, then I have no doubt that their claims are probably accurate. 

Anyway /rant.  Great build. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 26, 2010, 03:14:41 PM
(http://media.funlol.com/content/img/cool_story_bro.jpg)

haha! Seriously, I enjoyed the read. Thanks for posting it. I feel better about my decision to go with lizard skin seeing as there are 1/2 a dozen manufactures that make similar products and all claim to be the best.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: lackskill on July 26, 2010, 05:58:52 PM
lol

It was late and at the end of typing all of that, I thought to myself, "WTF does this have to do with anything?"  So I posted it anyway... 

I'm very interested to hear what your impressions of the product are.  I hope it's as good as I think it could be.  :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on July 26, 2010, 11:27:02 PM
hahaha rofl
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 02, 2010, 01:39:06 AM
Finally finished scraping out the stock soundproofing and masking for the lizard skin.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/253.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/254.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/255.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/256.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/257.jpg)

As you can see... I pretty much stripped every square inch of my interior. It was a PITA but I figure if I'm going to do it once I might as well do it right :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/258.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/260.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/263.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/261.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/262.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/265.jpg)

That only took the better part of two gallons. I've got 2 more so I'm going to do another coat next weekend *.

I thought I'd have to paint the inside skins of my doors with a brush/roller, but I managed to do it with my spray gun using the 3 access holes I could get a nozzle through. After looking inside with a flashlight I confirmed I got everything inside :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/259.jpg)

* Unfortunately I think I may have blown something on my 30 gallon Kobalt compressor :(
When I was cleaning my gear and after my compressor had pumped itself back up to 150psi I noticed a loud hiss coming from the regulator / controller area of the compressor. Upon further investigation I found a pinhole in the controller area that was the root of the cause. It was getting dark and the compressor was still very pressurized so I couldn't do much except clean my shop and get ready to leave. It only took about 15 minutes for the pinhole to bleed 30 gallons though. That sunk my idea that it was just a safety valve because  the burst valve I'm familiar with is spring loaded and shuts after a while. This one bled until the tank was empty :(

Oh well... I'll see what I can do about it tomorrow if I can get out of jury duty...

Oh yeah, just for kicks and giggles, here's the mats my brothers got me for my birthday last month:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/264.jpg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BAD-LSX-7 on August 02, 2010, 01:50:13 AM
always loved those wheels!!!
 
keep the pics and the good work rolling!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 09, 2010, 12:08:37 AM
Managed to shoot another coat of lizard skin on Monday and let it dry all week. Spent my Saturday stripping all the masking out of my car from the lizard skin and reinstalling my fenders and front bumper support. Today I worked on my fuel system after an emergency alternator replacement on a hot car (temperature... it was a Hyundai Elantra) a girl friend of mine limped over to my shop. Needless to say, I have the forearm burns to prove it :\

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/266.jpg)
I was hoping it would be a cleaner install, but I had to involve some heat-shielding sleeves on my fuel lines since they ran within a few inches of my headers on the way back to the gas tank.

The input line comes up from the passenger side of the brake booster to the 10um filter on top of the brake booster / master cylinder.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/267.jpg)
10um filter and 8AN fuel line with a DEI heat sleeve.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/268.jpg)
Aeromotive regulator. 8AN Input on left, 6AN output on right, 6AN return line out the bottom.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/269.jpg)
Sumped  fuel tank from the rear of the car. The passenger side port feeds the  8AN line which is then pre-filtered to 100um before it hits the fuel  pump. The drivers side port is the fuel return  line that runs straight to the regulator.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/270.jpg)
Drivers side view from under the car

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/271.jpg)
100um filter

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/272.jpg)
100um filter to fuel Bosch 044 fuel pump

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/273.jpg)
A bad picture of the routing from the fuel pump to the front of the  car. You can also see the fuel return line running to the front of the  car as well.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BAD-LSX-7 on August 09, 2010, 12:16:37 AM
wow good work! i dont even wana think of doing my fuel setup! wana come do it lmfao
 
did u sump the tank?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on August 09, 2010, 12:24:22 AM
Looking great Lane.   I like the full interior Lizard Skin treatment.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ablake211 on August 09, 2010, 12:42:09 AM
And I thought my build was anal. Great job man.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 09, 2010, 12:56:47 AM
Thanks guys. The lizard skin install was a real bear, mainly due to the stock sound proofing removal, but I'm glad I suffered through it. Just the way the doors sound when I close them makes a huge difference. I was planning on doing it down the road, but I put off getting the car running another 2 weeks and went ahead and did it so I wouldn't have to strip out the entire interior to do it in the future.

BAD-LSX-7: To tell you the truth, I've been dreading the fuel system install for weeks now. I've had everything to do it for over a month now, but I've never built AN lines before and the stuff is just expensive enough to make me apprehensive. Turns out it was nothing to be scared of as the nylon covered lines are a piece of cake (knocks on wood while silently praying they don't all blow off their fittings when I pressurize them ;)
The previous owner sumped the tank. Initially I was looking to trade for a stock tank so I could go back to having an in-tank pump, but I decided to just go with it. I'm glad I did now :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BAD-LSX-7 on August 09, 2010, 11:56:51 AM
om still debating on what route to go on my fuel tank. also if i wana run 2lines or just go with one. anyways awesome job!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 16, 2010, 12:21:26 AM
Not much happened this weekend. It was all about brakes, brackets, and cleaning.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/274.jpg)
Hawk HP pads masked for anti squeal coating,

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/275.jpg)
Front brakes installed

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/276.jpg)
Another shot. I finally got around to sanding the mazda logo. I really like it since it takes the focus off of my shitty paint job :)
The front brake install is about 90% done. I spent an hour trying to figure out how the front hard-lines connected to the brake MC and ABS unit respectively,  until I remembered that the car came without ABS and after looking at some older pictures I discovered that the stock hard-lines in the fenders had been reformed to make the ABS delete fit better. Guess I'll be giving Ray some more business :P

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/277.jpg)
Rear brakes installed

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/278.jpg)
Not as pretty as the front, but it'll have to do :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/279.jpg)
Mocking up a wheel to eyeball how off my toe is

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/281.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/280.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/282.jpg)
Nittos waiting to be mounted. 275/40/17 for the rear and 255/40/17 for the front

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/283.jpg)
Last week I installed my fuel system. I left pictures of the rear to front run out because the stock underbody conduit was having trouble keeping the lines in place. This weekend I made a few aluminum brackets to help the stock mounting points out.

Afterwards I spent about 4 hours cleaning up my very very messy shop :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BAD-LSX-7 on August 16, 2010, 12:23:14 AM
ummmm im happy i am still awake so i can have fd dreams! looking good!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: overkill-lt1 on August 21, 2010, 10:23:34 AM
looks great.  no exterior paint job lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 23, 2010, 01:42:46 AM
looks great.  no exterior paint job lol

It needs one... Bad :)
I'm planning to get it painted black a few months down the road.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 23, 2010, 02:00:39 AM
Spent most of my weekend planning out some more electrical goodies. I've plunged back into the RX7 wiring harnesses and don't believe I'll be coming up for air..... At least not for another couple weeks :)

After a lot of consideration, I've decided to finish what I started and create annotated photos of the Rear Harness, the Instruments Harness, the Dash Harness, and the Floor Harness. This will be in the same form as the work I did on the Front Harness:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=24.0.html (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=24.0.html)
I figure since I already have them stripped down and I'm in the process of labeling everything so I can strip out what isn't necessary, taking pictures and tagging them in photoshop isn't too much extra trouble. I'm sure good people here will be glad to have them for reference.

I'm not stripping much out of my harnesses, except for the rear windshield wiper equipment and the whole audio system. What I'm doing is trying to think everything through so that all my swap wiring will run within the stock harnesses. For example, my aftermarket alarm will be completely integrated into the Dash Harness :D

Be looking out for a master annotated picture thread in the near future.

Other than that, I moved a couple items from my apartment to my shop.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/284.jpg)
Greddy Evolution Exhaust

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/285.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/286.jpg)
3.5" to 3" reducer at the end. I'm going to chop it off and add a 3.5" flange. From there it will to to a 3.5" to dual 3" Y to leads to my 3" JTR headers.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/287.jpg)A goody box from Howe :)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/288.jpg)
34329-RNF Multipass radiator with custom full shroud made for two 10" puller fans.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/289.jpg)
Front

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/290.jpg)
3" thick core :)

I'm beat. Headed for bed.

Lane

PS
My build progress is going to suck for the next month as I have put the build on hold financially. I'm moving into my new home in the middle of September, but until then, I want to free up my cashflow as much as possible for all the little things that nickle and dime you when you close on a house. Sucks, but I am moving into a much nicer house and it has a 2 door garage :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 30, 2010, 02:08:49 AM
Worked all weekend labeling my harnesses for MY reference and documenting the process for YOUR reference :D

Hope somebody gets some use out of it:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=2468.0.html (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=2468.0.html)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: gmtech1978 on August 30, 2010, 02:37:37 PM
just wanted to stop in and say your doing the car the justice it deserved and thanks for the info your sharing on the wiring. and just remember i get that first ride...lol  see ya soon man!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 30, 2010, 06:23:43 PM
Thanks Jimmy. Yeah, you're first in line if I ever finish. Hopefully I'll get it wrapped before the winter gets here :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Live2drive15 on August 31, 2010, 06:02:00 PM
Seriously you are doing an excellent job!  I only hope one day I can do most of the stuff you are doing!

Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on August 31, 2010, 08:03:23 PM
so is that the Greddy Evo exhaust for the standard FD?  Is it full 3.5" after that little step down?  Cost?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 31, 2010, 08:29:29 PM
so is that the Greddy Evo exhaust for the standard FD?  Is it full 3.5" after that little step down?  Cost?

As far as I know it's standard. I got it used for a little under $200 shipped off the club which is a steal, IMO, because it's mint.

It's technically marketed/sold as a 3" exhaust as the flange at the end is 3" to make it compatible with the majority of mid-pipes. However, you see it expands shortly thereafter. I've been too lazy to grab my calipers from home, but I'm pretty sure it expands to at least 3.5" and stays that wide all the way to the muffler.
Regardless, I'm chopping off the 3" step-down / reducer and flange and having the exhaust shop weld on another flange at the wider point then building a dual 3" to 3.5" midpipe that connects my headers to the Evo's new flange :)

I see Evo's for sale on the club quite a bit. Good luck

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on September 01, 2010, 11:12:43 AM
Nice.   You might want to look into the muffler and make sure it doesn't get reduced down.  I know there was an LS FD local to me who took off his 3.75" greddy catback that I think was made for a Supra because the piping diamter got knocked down to like 2.5" inside the muffler.  Let me know what you find out.   That may just be the solution I go for if it's straight through.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 01, 2010, 01:18:06 PM
Nice.   You might want to look into the muffler and make sure it doesn't get reduced down.  I know there was an LS FD local to me who took off his 3.75" greddy catback that I think was made for a Supra because the piping diamter got knocked down to like 2.5" inside the muffler.  Let me know what you find out.   That may just be the solution I go for if it's straight through.

Well you peaked my interest so I grabbed my calipers and took a trip to my shop this morning:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/291.jpg)
Measurement of the flange's ID.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/292.jpg)
Since my calipers couldn't reach inside to the expanded portion I cut a little piece of aluminum exactly 3.5" and it fit :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/293.jpg)
Unfortunately, you are right about the muffler though. It pinches down to 3" towards the tip. The piece of aluminum has been trimmed to 3" for this pic.

I'll probably still saw off the 3.5" to 3" reducer at the flange though. Exhaust gases do cool and lose pressure on their way through the exhaust, so I figure a 3" restriction at the end is better than a 3" restriction mid way. I'll think of it as a baffle :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on September 01, 2010, 02:53:23 PM
haha cool.  Seems straight through besides that little step down.  You have any video links on how it sounds on an FD? ( I assume 13b but still)  I would like to get a smoother exhaust note than some of the LSX exhausts I've heard.  I don't want the car confused with a truck just by the sound.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: clocker on September 01, 2010, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: mefarri
Well you peaked my interest so I grabbed my calipers and took a trip to my shop this morning:


That would be "piqued" actually.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 01, 2010, 06:47:04 PM
Thanks clocker :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 01, 2010, 07:10:39 PM
haha cool.  Seems straight through besides that little step down.  You have any video links on how it sounds on an FD? ( I assume 13b but still)  I would like to get a smoother exhaust note than some of the LSX exhausts I've heard.  I don't want the car confused with a truck just by the sound.

I've seen videos, but I'm having trouble finding them now. Here's one that supposedly has a Evo on it:
Mustang GT & RX7 Twin Turbo.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjlKLqTHtNY#)
Sounds about like what I'd expect it to sound like on a rotary ;)

I'll be sure to post clips of it on my setup when I finally get around to finishing it.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: TyConway on October 18, 2010, 06:40:41 AM
Nice build so far...
Got a few questions... Noticed on your harness pics, I didn't see the SRS wires... Did you already remove them from the harness or did I just over look it?
Also I just removed my SRS harness and noticed it plugged into the dash harness on a few places, do you know off the top of your head if thats going to cause me any problems or open circuits?   I haven't got any service manuals yet on the FD so I was just curious since your the wiring master from what I've seen so far.
 Thanks in advance, looking great so far!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 18, 2010, 11:41:41 AM
Haha! I don't know about master. I can think of at least 5 other guys on here that are more knowledgeable about this swaps wiring than I am :)

Yes. In my Dash/Instrument harness pics, my airbag harness has already been removed. The airbag system is actually almost completely standalone. If I recall correctly it does tap into your horn, brakes, etc to bump up it's alert status since you'd probably hit your brakes before an accident but other than that it's very easy to remove. Just pull out the harness that connects to the SRS module and all the blue and orange airbag wires :)
I'm almost positive the horn does "break" after the removal since the horn relay is connected to the horn switch in the steering wheel through the airbag x connector (X-08 from memory). It's a pretty easy fix though. Just run a wire from the steering wheel harness to the corresponding front harness connector to find your way to the horn relay.

Cheers
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: TyConway on October 18, 2010, 05:00:05 PM
yea but your build is very specific and seems like you have pictures of everything... But my horn wasnt working before anyways so I guess i'm okay... Just couldn't believe it was that easy to remove the srs stuff.  Again thanks, can't wait to see more of your build!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: GEAUX FAST on October 18, 2010, 06:02:16 PM
I work in the industrial sector as well and Mascoat has some bad ass items, very neat product.
Your build thread is bitchin..... except for the bulldog you plan to have plastered to the hood  ;) (geaux tigers :D)
By far my favorite set of wheels.
cant wait to see this thing in action!!!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 03, 2010, 11:57:56 PM
Figured it was time for a thread resurrection  :yay:

I'm finally in my new home and I've been working on my car over the past few weeks. Here's a few pictures to show what I've been up to.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/294.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/295.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/296.jpg)
New Garage

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/297.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/298.jpg)
The Dirty Dirty rear end. I feel bad for her. Havn't been able to wash her in almost a year :(

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/299.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/301.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/303.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/304.jpg)
Finally got my suspension and brakes squared away so I could get my wheels on! Ride height is not finished and this is only eyeball aligned ;)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/309.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/308.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/307.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/305.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/306.jpg)
Had to do a fair amount of rolling to get my wheels and tires to clear.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/302.jpg)
A look at what's going on in the front. Had a little hitch in towing the car to my new garage and tweaked the front crash bar. Going to get a new one from Ray and have it welded on soon.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/316.jpg)
Did I mention my brakes are done!?!?! Almost done in this corner as well. Just have to install the master cylinder :)
Look at all those DEI heat sleeves  :yay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/311.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/312.jpg)
3.5" Aluminum driveshaft custom made by the Drive Shaft shop to fit my Viper T56's 30 spline output and mate it to my Cobra rear.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/313.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/315.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/314.jpg)
Trans and Diff oiled up!

And finally. Something I've been working on for my new Gauges. I'm replacing every gauge in my cluster with speedhut.com gauges. To make them look stock I'm fabricating a fiberglass section to hold them flush with the stock cluster's front shield (the part with the chrome rings). Here's my progress so far:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/317.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/318.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/319.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/320.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/321.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/322.jpg)
I used the new gauge lenses to form counter-sunk pockets in the fiberglass mold so the gauges can sit flush against the stock front shield. I taped the lenses down after centering them so they would not move.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/323.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/324.jpg)
Waxing the 'mold' before laying fiberglass.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/325.jpg)
Two layers of chop mat.

Stay tuned :)

Lane



Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Gspec on November 29, 2010, 09:17:02 PM
I had bumped this before the site went down....so I'm re-bumping..lol Any updates?! Awesome build btw...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 29, 2010, 09:59:01 PM
Thanks Gspec. Yes, there are a few updates, but they are mostly electrical and will have to wait until the weekend before I have anything substantial enough to post. I'm working on finishing my engine harness and my gauge cluster. It's hard to follow what's going on with the cluster in the pictures I posted above, but I think the end result is going to blow peoples minds and it will be one of the main things that sets my project apart from the rest.

Stay tuned :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on November 30, 2010, 04:03:18 PM
Very nice build.  I run speedhut gauges in my FC and really like them.  Clean, precise and AMERICAN MADE.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on November 30, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
...watching intently on your gauge build...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 06, 2010, 03:01:35 AM
Didn't do anything this weekend because my truck finally snapped from all the attention deprivation and blew its heater core... Still... I managed to get a little done on the RX7 before the weekend.

Just for kicks, here are a few pics of the Hombre's heater core swap

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Hombre/5.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Hombre/6.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Hombre/7.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Hombre/8.jpg)

All in all it wasn't that bad. Just sticky and cold. Spent Saturday changing it out. I spent Sunday cleaning house and throwing a party

Now, on to the good stuff.

I've been modifying my LS1 harness over the last couple weeks. The first thing I did was frame it to my engine and accessories by connecting it and zip tying the wire branches to save its form.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/331.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/332.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/333.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/334.jpg)

When doing my LS1 harness I also decided to integrate all my aftermarket gauge sensors. Shown below is the fuel pressure gauge:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/335.jpg)

Afterwards I removed the harness and started making the needed modifications... Namely extending the harness so that the PCM fits underneath the passenger seat.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/337.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/338.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/339.jpg)
Whew! That extension took A LOT of time
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/340.jpg)
A branch being sleeved
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/341.jpg)
Connector labels. Jealous? :D
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/343.jpg)
  (http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/344.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/342.jpg)
About 90% done. The yellow and black round cable bundle is aftermarket gauge wiring, reverse switch, and check engine light waiting to be wired to X-14.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/345.jpg)
The gauge wiring will have a connector at the harness, and male to female intermediate harness, and a connector at the gauge cluster. All connections will use these 16 pin Delphi GT 150 connectors.


As for the gauges, here are a few pictures to help describe what I am working on.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/347.jpg)
Here is my custom gauge adapter with the gauge holes cut out. If you reference earlier pics, you'll see I molded this piece using the backside of an old gauge overlay (the clear piece with the chrome rings). I also used the aftermarket gauge faces in the mold to make counter-sunk pockets for the gauges to sit in. The holes seen in the picture above were cut out 'inside' the pockets using a diameter ~4mm smaller than the pockets leaving a lip for the gauges to mount to.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/348.jpg)
Painted, but not really necessary.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/349.jpg)
Speedhut gauges in the pockets. This allows the gauges to sit flush against the gauge overlay when it is installed as seen in the next picture

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/350.jpg)
Gauge overlay installed. The only thing remaining is to drill holes in the overlay and install the rubber button caps so the aftermarket gauge-programming buttons can be accessible from the gauge overlay. It will end up looking exactly how I did my prototype gauges a few months back as seen below:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/227.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/351.jpg)
Final look :) Note that the Tach needle is just off from me jostling the gauge around. Powering it zeros it.

That's all for now folks :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 06, 2010, 10:01:53 AM
Looking great Lane.

My only criticism would be that the wiring may be a SOB to troubleshoot if anything ever happens in the extended area, with them all being the same color.     Beyond that, the harness looks fan-freakin-tastic, very nice work.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 06, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
Looking great Lane.

My only criticism would be that the wiring may be a SOB to troubleshoot if anything ever happens in the extended area, with them all being the same color.     Beyond that, the harness looks fan-freakin-tastic, very nice work.

Agreed. Hopefully my system of extending one wire at a time will save me from trouble, but I'm prepared for the worst :P

Thanks for the complements

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Gspec on December 06, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
Nice job on the harness, and the IC looks great!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 12, 2010, 04:36:41 AM
Put up a quick vid of the gauges power up and the blue backlight :D

 (http://s917.photobucket.com/albums/ad14/halfspec/?action=view&current=gauges.mp4)

I'll post more later today

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jhcrazyboi on December 12, 2010, 05:51:26 AM
Wow, really nice piece of work.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BAD-LSX-7 on December 12, 2010, 12:11:22 PM
wow gauges look awesome dude! i wish i had fab skills like that
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2010, 03:07:37 AM
Thanks guys.

Here are a few pics from the gauge work I did this weekend.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/352.jpg)
This is a shot of the gauge back. I mounted the gauges using a method a friend showed me. It's basically just aluminum U's, but I had to add screws to the speedhut gauge housings to make it work.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/354.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/355.jpg)

It was actually a pretty straightforward process and it's very sturdy. The best part is that the mounts have a VERY small footprint, which is why I abandoned the stock locking collar setup which didn't work because the fiberglass mold back isn't perfectly flat and because their is very limited space around the gauges. The only downside is that it added additional depth to the gauges.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/353.jpg)

To help with the extra depth I went ahead and created a skeleton gauge back:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/356.jpg)

To do this I had to modify the circuit trace to only include traces for the stock functions I still needed. This really only included indicators and idiot lights. Everything else just got cut out. It looks pretty rough right now, but that's mostly because I haven't even started to finalize the gauge wiring. The main objective of this weekend was to get everything physically settled.

To finish off my work for the weekend I modified the overlay by drilling holes for the program buttons then installing the grommet-buttons:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/357.jpg)

The buttons use metal actuator rods to press the speedhut gauge program buttons below:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/358.jpg)

Finally, in addition to my video above, here is a picture of the gauges backlight :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/359.jpg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Pez on December 13, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
Why are you wiring your MAF to X14?

Also, the PCM won't fit under the seat, unless you're willing to do more cutting than I am. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BrownBoy on December 13, 2010, 11:10:54 AM
I just read through this whole thread beginning to end.  Amazing work man, keep it up! :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2010, 12:25:23 PM
Thanks BrownBoy :)
   
Pez - Typo on my part. I meant MALF, because that's what I thought the  abbreviation for the check engine light was. Should have just said  check engine light :P
 
I've been making a few revisions to my car plan lately. I've pretty  much decided on getting a pair of carbon Bride Gias seats, getting a  cage, and giving up my JDM rear seats to go back to a storage bin. I  was gambling on having a little more room under the aftermarket seats,  but I suppose if there isn't any I'll just extend the wires to the  storage bin :)
 
Lane
 
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Pez on December 13, 2010, 12:53:50 PM
why are you running your MIL to x14? ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2010, 02:18:14 PM
why are you running your MIL to x14? ;)

Cause that's how I wired my dash harness  :D

I figure there's no use in using extra connectors when I've already scaled down X-14 and have unused pins there along with the fact that I've already got wires running that direction from the rev switch.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AHarada on December 19, 2010, 11:41:41 PM
Awesome build Lane. 

Let us know how that suspension setup works for you.  What spring rates are those GCs?  I was looking into getting some GCs and Bilsteins.  How is the fitment on those rear tires? 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 20, 2010, 12:19:38 AM
Thanks Andrew, I will. The spring rates are 500F/400R. I really like the build quality of the Koni + GC match. I think it's going to be the best suspension setup I've ever had :)

The 275's clear just fine in the rear. I rolled the rear just to be sure, but I think I could definitely go taller and wider :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: project dc2 on December 22, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
you sir .. rock !!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 93silverbullet on January 02, 2011, 07:21:35 PM
Very nice build! Those gauges look great!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mdpalmer on January 13, 2011, 11:16:33 PM
Dude, documentation is great. Another sick car. Love the cluster, when I pull my dash out I will do the same. Thanks for posting your progress, how bout some video  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 14, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
Thank you for the complements guys :)

I wish I had videos to show, but anything I film right now would be awfully quiet and very stationary :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Shavel on January 14, 2011, 11:07:39 PM
Install it and wow us.  Love the color of your car!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rex7fd on January 14, 2011, 11:36:45 PM
The gauges are awesome I am trying to do the same, but no where near as gangster!!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: gmtech1978 on February 27, 2011, 06:58:51 PM
hey lane whats the latest? hope everything is okay with the build still hoping to come down there soon!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 27, 2011, 09:13:52 PM
I've had the pleasure of having a new woman in my life over the last few weeks, which has been wonderful for me, but really shifted my priorities ;)
Somewhat related to the topic of priorities, my build is now over a year old. Since I've started I've grown a year older, but I've also lost 50lbs which got me down from 220 to 170. Fitness took over my priorities in 2010 with my car coming in second. Now I'm having to do even more shuffling :)

Long story short... Things are happening with the car, albeit rather slowly, and I've got a lot of pics to update, but that will have to wait for another weekend.

Cheers everybody
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Shavel on February 27, 2011, 10:09:31 PM
Very awesome.  I've always had to lose a little weight, it was an awesome feeling when I finally met my goal.  You've also gained 5 hp!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Pez on February 27, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
Man-law
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 27, 2011, 10:32:55 PM
Man-law

Upheld:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/emily2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: GregD on February 28, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
I've had the pleasure of having a new woman in my life over the last few weeks, which has been wonderful for me, but really shifted my priorities ;)

Gads, he's been abducted by femaliens...   :o

Congrats on the weight loss.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: kswaby10 on March 01, 2011, 05:56:24 PM
Very nice pic.


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Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: zonblitz on March 03, 2011, 04:30:27 PM
great job on the build but especially the gauges! Great work!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 03, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
Thanks for all the compliments guys. I'll try and get a proper status update done this weekend :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: need RX7 on March 04, 2011, 11:39:07 PM
Love it! Great build  8). That gauge cluster is awesome.  :o
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on March 05, 2011, 04:49:38 AM
Loving this thread, I don't know how I missed it last year.

Gauges look incredible.  Drivetrain looks awesome.  All the prep looks like it was done right (very surprising since it seems like a lot of it was your first time) ~ methinks this car will be great.

Chick's hot too!  This thread is just a bunch of happy feelings, I love it.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 07, 2011, 03:10:32 AM
Thanks again for all your support and complements guys. It really keeps me going at this stage  :cheers:


It’s been so long since I’ve posted an update that I made a big effort to end my weekend with one :)

Since the last time I posted pictures I have completed and tested my gauge cluster, which basically boiled down to finishing up the backside. Since I’m modifying my dash and instrument harnesses I wasn’t stuck with the stock cluster connectors and I went with a 22 pin Delphi latching connector for a single plug-n-play connection:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/366.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/364.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/365.jpg)

Finally done :D
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/363.jpg)

A few weeks ago I spent some time repairing my front crash bar. Due to a towing accident, which is all my fault because I thought using the crash bar would be ok for a short tow, my crash bar looked like this:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/302.jpg)

After getting a replacement from Ray I drilled out the original spot welds and welded the new one back on. Since I had removed a lot of paint to spot weld the new bar on; I primed and painted the new one.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/367.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/368.jpg)

At this point I was fed up with how dusty my car was getting so I rolled it out for a sponge bath since my car is so stripped :P

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/369.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/370.jpg)

Much better :D

Yet another weekend I decided that something had to be done with the rusty dash support brace…

As it was:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/375.jpg)

Sandblasted:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/376.jpg)

Freshly coated with Semi-gloss POR15
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/377.jpg)
Cured
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/378.jpg)

Here’s my engine bay as it sits tonight:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/385.jpg)

I managed to get my Samberg V2 radiator partially installed a few weeks ago along with my front harness (big step for me cause this harness has been out for a year now). After wiring up my horns and alarm siren I decided that I really wanted a better fuse / relay box solution, so I ripped the front harness back out and started the process of building one. Unfortunately, I didn’t take pictures of  the harness installed, which is a shame because it was fully sleeved and looking pretty :)

That pretty much brings me back to my project’s ultimate “scale creep” . . . wiring.

About 6 months ago I posted a small tutorial here that covered the construction of a fused relay box like this:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Relay/9.jpg)
My plan was to homerun the circuits it controlled to one of the storage bins…

At the time, it was the result of not being able to find a small OEM fuse/relay box with support for 7 relays and 6 fuses and  I thought my work was top notch. Haha! Well, Pez came in and told me what I could have done better and showed me a couple of pictures of boxes he’d built from scratch which really put my box to shame. At the time I got angry because his solution is what I spent weeks looking around for + I’d spent a weekend building my box, so I was childish, said some rude things to Greg (I’ve since apologized :)), and took the thread down lol! But, that was just me not being able to take constructive criticism…. Everything Greg said was true and much more elegant than what I designed, so in the end, it’s what I decided to go with for my primary fuse/relay box and the reason I ripped out my front harness after “finishing” it.

Here are some in-process pictures of the Delphi fuse/relay box I’m building from scratch:

My layout supports 16 fuses and 10 relays and I’m using every one lol!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/380.jpg)

Basic backside power routing (it’s currently much messier now)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/381.jpg)

A sheet I drew to keep track of what’s what:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/382.jpg)

This fuse / relay box replaced X-01, X-02, the front relay box, and the loose fan & headlight relays in the engine bay. Plus, it gives me relays and fuses to control things like AC, Fuel Pump, Fans, etc. I will be mounting it near the driver’s fender close to where the stock fuse boxes mount.

Other than that, the only thing I’ve wrapped up recently was my dash harness:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/379.jpg)

My instrument harness is still being modified for my new gauge cluster.
My engine harness is waiting for Pez to send me a bunch of wiring so I can extend it 8ft to the passenger bin. Its injector feeds are also being modified to interface with my racelogic TC system and various circuits are being routed to interface with the stock front harness, and instrument harness.
Finally, my rear harness is waiting to have the bose circuits stripped, a trunk popper grafted in, and a small relay box installed.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/384.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/383.jpg)
 
These are just relays I couldn’t fit in my primary box, although their fuses are located there. Two of them split the duty of the defroster (separately fused). The other two handle the fuel pump and the trunk popper. The box will be mounted near the ABS controller very close to where the stock defroster relay mounted.

That’s pretty much it… Wiring paired with my indecisiveness is definitely the biggest holdup of my project. Oh well, I’ll finish someday.

Oh yeah, looky what UPS finally brought me :)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/386.jpg)




Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on March 07, 2011, 09:15:21 AM
Looking good Lane!   :)

Where'd you get that Delphi fuse/relay box if you don't mind sharing?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: thetastelingers on March 07, 2011, 09:40:49 AM
Good update. It is amazing how dirty the car gets while doing work to it.
Keep it up! Soon it will be drivable.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Kevin Doe on March 07, 2011, 03:22:58 PM
Wow, how did I miss this build thread.  Very impressive!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 07, 2011, 04:09:54 PM
Looking good Lane!   :)

Where'd you get that Delphi fuse/relay box if you don't mind sharing?

Mouser.com Blake.... Mouser.com ;)

Basic Box Parts:
829-12146281
829-12146286
829-12162365
829-12160765
829-12077532
829-12146283
829-12146284

Relays
Omron SPDT Micro = 653-G8V-RH-1C7TRDC12 - Love these!!!
Omron SPST Mini = 653-G8W1A7TRDC12
Omron SPDT Mini = 653-G8W1C7TRDC12

Terminals:
Maxifuse Terminals = 829-12110127 - You'll need at least 8
Relay terminals (except for center section relays) - 829-12110844 & 829-12129424 - I bought > 50 of each type. The only difference between the two is the wire gauges they support. More options and part numbers are available in the datasheets on mouser.com, but beware of just looking for Female Metri-Pack 280 terminals because there are at least TWO types. The only type that works in this electrical center is the type that uses "Friction" as the locking mechanism. The "Tang" type DO NOT work. Ask me how I know :)
Center section terminals - 829-12110646 - I bought > 50 of these as well. These are bussed, which means they will come wired together. It's nice because it allows you to make mini power busses in the center section and simplify wiring, but it's also a small hassle because it means you have to snip them apart (I use shears) when doing singles.


Fuses:
Maxi:
576-0299030.ZXNV - 30A
576-0299040.ZXNV - 40A
576-0299060.ZXNV - 60A
Mini:
576-0297010.WXNV - 10A
576-0297015.WXNV - 15A
576-0297020.WXNV - 20A
576-0297025.WXNV - 25A
576-0297030.WXNV - 30A

The parts above are about 85% of what you need. Unfortunately, Delphi has discontinued a very important part of the box... The Power distribution block / stud:
http://connectors2.delphi.com/dcsgdmcs/del/attachments/2D Drawings (TIF Format)/12146285_CUS01_S01.tif (http://connectors2.delphi.com/dcsgdmcs/del/attachments/2D Drawings (TIF Format)/12146285_CUS01_S01.tif)
To complicate matters, you'll see that mouser is currently out of stock when it comes to the box cover and some of the locks. To get around this, I bought a used pre-constructed box from eBay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/delphi-box1.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/delphi-box2.jpg)

The idea was to salvage a couple of parts I couldn't purchase anymore, but still have a mostly new fue/relay box in the end :)
If you want to do the same thing I did, just look for a 97+ Astro fuse box (Pez tip).

Extras:
Crimpers - I was able to get by with these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002STTTI (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002STTTI)
BUT, these are not a crimp all solution. Fox example, the center section bussed terminals are very hard to crimp with one of these. Also, the sheer size of the maxifuse terminals make it impossible to use these. For the center section terminals I manually bent in the terminal teeth with needle nose pliers, then I used a basic crimp die to finish the crimp. For the maxi fuse terminals I was so unsatisfied with my crimps that I ended up salvaging pigtails from the fuse box I bought on eBay and spliced them into my existing wiring. I know Pez will be biting his tongue when he sees those splices lol! The right way to do it would be to buy the right crimper, but I really am trying to cut down on my one-use tools and this is one instance I just couldn't shell out the extra $$$ for the right tools. I DO trust my splices though, so it may look messy but it's very functional :D


So there you have it. I really wish someone had given me all this info before I started lol! This represents hours and hours of research on mouser.com. I think Pez told me Astro fuse boxes were nice and directed me to the electrical center part number (829-12146281) and that's all I got :)

Thanks again for the nice words gentlemen.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 07, 2011, 04:11:28 PM
Wow, how did I miss this build thread.  Very impressive!

Thanks Kevin. I'm ecstatic about adding your old exhaust to the mix too :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: RX7 on March 13, 2011, 08:23:45 PM
My goodness! I thought I was in over my head with my build. This build is incredible. I have a notebook full of every little detail I want done to my car during the build process, but you just took it to a whole new level. If you ever want to make some extra money, I would be willing to pay for you to modify my cluster in the same fashion as yours. I do not posses the skills required to make something like that happen. I'm in love with this build, it just got favorited. Very, very, very nice work!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 14, 2011, 05:05:17 PM
My goodness! I thought I was in over my head with my build. This build is incredible. I have a notebook full of every little detail I want done to my car during the build process, but you just took it to a whole new level. If you ever want to make some extra money, I would be willing to pay for you to modify my cluster in the same fashion as yours. I do not posses the skills required to make something like that happen. I'm in love with this build, it just got favorited. Very, very, very nice work!

Wow! Thanks for the very flattering complements. The details and documentation have really stretched this build out, but I'm hoping it will all be worth it in the end :)

I've actually had quite a few requests for a copy of the gauge piece I made. I would really like to help everybody out, but unfortunately I just haven't been able to figure out an economical way of making that happen. The biggest problem is that my "mold" was basically pieces of the gauge cluster (extras) and were consumed / broken during the process (which really just goes to show how much of a newb I am when it comes to fiberglass lol!) Specifically the clear gauge shield which served as the biggest part of the mold. Even though I tried to protect and wax it (In hind sight, I would probably line everything with tin foil and lose the wax ) I still had places that bonded to the fiberglass and the only way I could get it off was to break it off and grind down the sections of the shield that I couldn't chip off. Long story short, it was a painful process and I'm nowhere near skilled enough to manufacture these on any scale :(

Thanks again for the kind words and I'm sorry I couldn't be of more service

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: GEAUX FAST on March 14, 2011, 10:41:21 PM
damn, I love this build thread, and I want ur damn wheels on my rocket!

very nice sir! cant wait to see it DONE :popcorn:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Pez on March 14, 2011, 11:48:21 PM
Makin me proud  :yay:

Here's one I'm putting together for a race car.
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x272/eat-pez/IMG00120.jpg)

Of course, the details of this race car will have to stay off any public forum, as it will be equipped with a few bells and whistles that the competition doesn't need to know about.   :secret:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Pez on March 15, 2011, 11:25:16 AM
One thing I would reconsider.

You've got the RETRA relay as a micro relay.  I did that one time and had problems.  The relay fried, which blew my headlight fuse, and then I was driving a black car, in the rain, at night, with no headlights.

Granted, it was an old relay, and I forgot to put the top back on the the weather sealed box I had it in.  It was halfway exposed to the elements, etc, so all of that could have been a factor, but the 20/30A capasity of the micro relays MIGHT be on the boarder of what the retra motors need.

Also, it happened some point AFTER the headlights came up, so I doubt the retra motors were drawing any current when the fuse actually blew.

If your box was full, I would say that you might could let it ride, but just be weary.  I would loose the 12v switched circuit and get it straight from the key, and move the retra relay to it's mini relay spot.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BeasTT on March 15, 2011, 11:44:44 AM
Holy balls. Amazing attention to detail! Great build, keep up the good work  :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 15, 2011, 03:51:12 PM
Thanks again for all the encouragement guys. I think just about everyone that's posted in the last few pages has a build thread that has inspired me in one way or another  :cheers:

Makin me proud  :yay:

I'm trying :) Like I said a while back, it's been a very educational year. I'm just trying to make use of all the things I've learned  :D

One thing I would reconsider.

You've got the RETRA relay as a micro relay.  I did that one time and had problems.  The relay fried, which blew my headlight fuse, and then I was driving a black car, in the rain, at night, with no headlights....

That's very good information Greg. I'm definitely open to making a change if I need to, especially now because everything is still unwrapped. However, I don't know if it would be very advantageous with my specific hardware. I'm using the G8V-RH-1C7T-R-DC12 micro relays which according Omron's datasheets is rated at 20/35A (The 10/20A G8V-1C7T-R-DC12 that's in the RETRA socket in my picture has since been swapped with the A/C request relay):
http://www.omronauto.com/PDF/G8V-RH%20Data%20Sheet.pdf (http://www.omronauto.com/PDF/G8V-RH%20Data%20Sheet.pdf)
I'm pretty sure you're right about the 7866 type relays being a little wimpier though with a 20/30A rating ;)

On the other hand I'm using G8W-1C7T-R-DC12 mini relays which according to Omron's datasheets are also rated at 20/35A.
http://www.omronauto.com/PDF/G8W%20Spec.pdf (http://www.omronauto.com/PDF/G8W%20Spec.pdf)
With those kind of specs it doesn't really make sense to me to make the change, but maybe you were thinking of a different model / brand relay? I'm guessing the Mazda OEM relay might be in the neighborhood of 30/40A? I would assume the NC rating is the problem. I'm sure 1 form C relays exist with those types of ratings and 2.8mm contacts, but sites like mouser don't really let you search by contact size (at least I haven't figured out how) so I haven't been able to find any. Any suggestions?

Also, I'm a little concerned/confused about the retract and headlight circuit link when it comes to fuses. When I look at the diagrams, it looks like the retraction and headlight system are completely isolated from each other save their coil control. I don't see how blowing the retract relay and/or fuse would hurt the headlight relay and/or fuse unless you had both circuits on the same fuse? I would think if they were separately fused and retract failure would still leave you with headlights and you could manually actuate the headlights if necessary. Have I got that all wrong?

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 09, 2011, 02:44:48 AM
Thought it was time for an update so here you go. Not much has been happening. I've had a lot of previous commitments pop up lately that has kept me from working on the rex for almost a month.

Finished up my fuse box:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/387.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/388.jpg)

Next I fabricated the bracket I've had in mind for positioning the box in my engine bay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/389.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/390.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/391.jpg)

It was designed to fit very close to the stock fuse box location. I made it from mild steel using my press, pieces of bar stock, and elbow grease since I didn't have access to a brake.

After painting it I decided to take some pictures of it and a dummy fuse box mocked up:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/392.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/393.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/394.jpg)

At this point I realized the wire's natural exit from the front harness really made it easiest to wrap around the backside of the bracket, so I modified it:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/395.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/396.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/397.jpg)

After getting my fuse box placement finalized I finally finished my front harness:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/398.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/399.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/400.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/401.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/402.jpg)

Comparison pictures of what my front harness started out looking like can be found here:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=2468.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=2468.0)
Who knows... I might give some of y'all an idea on where to get started since I still hear the question "what can I delete" pretty often ;)


I've also recently acquired Kevin Doe's old 3" dual exhaust. As part of its install I removed my samberg trans brace and kitty haired up the mounting holes in my trans tunnel. I've never used kitty hair, but it seems pretty stout and I hear it has good hole filling properties :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/403.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/404.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/405.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/406.jpg)

Speaking of the exhaust, here's a couple of pics after cleaning it up a little bit:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/407.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/408.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/409.jpg)

However, if you'll step back into the past (before I unwrapped it) you can see the problems I had during the initial mock up :(

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/410.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/411.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/412.jpg)

The last pic shows the biggest problem. The drivers side exhaust pipe sits on the transmission brace and supports the trans above making it so the trans brace can not connect to the trans while the exhaust pipe is in-between it. Needless to say I will have to do some modifications before the final install. It's not Kevin's fault at all though. This exhaust was built for his car that uses a custom engine and diff subframe. It's no wonder it was not a plug and play fit on my car.

Also decided to do a little power routing starting with ground cables.
 
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/414.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/415.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/416.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/417.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/418.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/419.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/420.jpg)


Finally, I modified my rear bin for my battery and PCM. I also make some repairs with fiberglass because my bin had a hairline crack around the passenger bin lid.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/421.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/422.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/423.jpg)

That’s it for now :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 09, 2011, 09:20:10 AM
I like the harness, nice work Lane!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on May 09, 2011, 09:54:21 AM
Very nice.  Can you give me some more info on that ground wire punch thing?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 09, 2011, 11:42:49 AM
Thanks guys :)

Very nice.  Can you give me some more info on that ground wire punch thing?

I call it a hammer crimper. You can usually find them on eBay for $20-30 by searching for "hammer crimper." It's an upfront cost, but the terminals are much cheaper than the non-crimp variety, so it pays for itself in no time.
Speaking of terminals, the guys that sell the hammer crimpers usually sell them, but if you don't mind browsing through mouser.com you can get them cheaper.

Mouser.com \ Interconnects \ Terminals \ Product = Rings \ Limit Products to = Molex \ Insulation = No Insulation \
Then choose your wire gauge and stud hole size.

I like them because the crimp is practically permanent and the stud hole sizing allows you to get the perfect terminal to fit the stud you're designing it for :)

Cheers!  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on May 09, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
BEAUTIFUL.  Thank you.  You just smack the shit out of it with a 3 pound sledge or something.  It's semi permanent?  I'd hate for it to work free.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 09, 2011, 01:38:02 PM
I wouldn't think you could get them to break loose under any normal circumstances and they're certainly not made to come off. I just said "practically" because I'm sure there are people out there that could pull them off trying to use them as engine hoist straps or something ;)
I personally believe these terminals lock on tighter than any aftermarket screw on / non crimp style terminal available

I use a 5lb hand sledge and give it 3 or 4 good wacks. The hammer gives good feedback. You can tell when the crimp has stopped compressing :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on May 09, 2011, 02:19:29 PM
Great. thanks.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Kevin Doe on May 09, 2011, 04:53:11 PM
Sucks to hear about the issues getting it installed.  Is there much play in that drivers side header if you loosen the bolts?  Hope its not too difficult to get modified to fit.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 09, 2011, 05:12:54 PM
Sucks to hear about the issues getting it installed.  Is there much play in that drivers side header if you loosen the bolts?  Hope its not too difficult to get modified to fit.

Don't worry about it bro. It's all good :)
I haven't loosened the headers yet, but I think the passenger side is far enough off that it's not going to matter. I think I'm just going to find an exhaust shop that will modify it from the crossover up. Only thing that sucks is that I live in the sticks and the two welders that do work locally, don't do automotive work. I'll just have to find somebody as close as possible that can work with stainless and has the patience for pie cuts.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Chigliakus on May 09, 2011, 06:15:21 PM
I wouldn't think you could get them to break loose under any normal circumstances and they're certainly not made to come off. I just said "practically" because I'm sure there are people out there that could pull them off trying to use them as engine hoist straps or something ;)
I personally believe these terminals lock on tighter than any aftermarket screw on / non crimp style terminal available

I use a 5lb hand sledge and give it 3 or 4 good wacks. The hammer gives good feedback. You can tell when the crimp has stopped compressing :)

Lane
Wow wish I'd thought of this, I am using similar terminals but I soldered them on which was a huge PITA.  Basically I'd flux my 1/0ga wire, stick it into the terminal, use my soldering iron to get a good thick bead of solder around the terminal edge, then hit it with my map gas torch until the solder was sucked in, and try to pull the torch before the wire sheath started to melt.  The terminals at least seem pretty secure, I can't pull them off the wire...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on May 09, 2011, 07:06:11 PM
Wow wish I'd thought of this, I am using similar terminals but I soldered them on which was a huge PITA.  Basically I'd flux my 1/0ga wire, stick it into the terminal, use my soldering iron to get a good thick bead of solder around the terminal edge, then hit it with my map gas torch until the solder was sucked in, and try to pull the torch before the wire sheath started to melt.  The terminals at least seem pretty secure, I can't pull them off the wire...

I do a similar crimp as well as braze my terminals with flux/.080" solder/map gas before sliding the abrasion-resistant adhesive heat shrink loom over.  Hammer crimpers are cool for big gauge stuff, the only decent alternative is a "real" crimper, which look like bolt cutters and are $$$.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 09, 2011, 07:24:33 PM
I use the audio style terminals, crimp them with vise grips and my press, then solder them, and finally put glue shrink on to seal the entire connection to prevent corrosion.    I could repel from the terminals.  ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Little Village on May 20, 2011, 08:02:24 AM
Your a true craftsmen! Keep up the good work man.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: GregD on May 24, 2011, 05:29:41 PM
  I could repel from the terminals.  ;)

Are they really that ugly ???  ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 25, 2011, 01:59:25 AM
Thanks for the encouragement guys.

Hoping to have an update after Memorial day :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 06, 2011, 02:05:32 AM
Here's what I've been up to for the past two weekends:

After giving it some thought, I decided to be on the safe side and do the second half of my lizard skin transformation. Last summer I did two coats of lizard skin - sound control. Since then I've gone back and forth on what to do for insulating the transmission tunnel. In the end I bought a gallon of Lizard Skin - Ceramic Insulation and top coated my sound control coat (which it's designed to do). 1 gallon was enough to make two quick passes over the firewall, floorpan, and trans tunnel. I felt like it was just enough:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/424.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/425.jpg)

This stuff has the consistency of marshmallow fluff.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/426.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/427.jpg)

Pretty much still stripped since last summer, so there wasn't much to do to prep except mask
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/428.jpg)
Done and drying

While the ceramic insulation was drying I decided to do Danzan's self exciting voltage regulator alternator mod. It was pretty straight forward. The only thing I fought with for a minute was the soldered connection terminal on the voltage regulator to alternator connection. The alternator side of the connection is actually a "loop" (connection is circled in the pics below) that the voltage regulator slides into, then the connection is soldered. I just thought it was two legs soldered together, so I heated up the connection and tried to pull the old regulator off. It wasn't until I closely inspected it that I saw it was a loop and the the regulator had to drop out from under it to clear the loop. Maybe pictures will make it easier to visualize :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/429a.jpg)
Alternator with stock voltage regulator

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/430.jpg)
Self exciting voltage regulator

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/431.jpg)
Alternator to voltage regulator connection loop (desoldered)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/432.jpg)
Alternator with self exciting regulator installed

After pulling out my pedals to spray my interior, I realized how crappy they look. I'd like to say everyone's pedals look this bad, but I had the bright idea to use naval jelly on them last summer to try and clean the rust up, which is why they have lovely white splotches on them AND rust. Well, in the interest of keeping the in good shape I decided to rebuild them, starting with a good bead blasting. Here are the before pictures:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/433a.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/434.jpg)

The after pictures will come with my next update. I'm not messing with the actual pedals, but mainly just the steel housings


How about some wiring crazyness????

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/435.jpg)

Thanks to Pez, I have all the color coded wire I need to properly extend and finish my engine harness :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/436.jpg)

A rare look behind the scenes. Finished and toning out the harness to make sure I didn't make any mistakes

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/437a.jpg)

Here's something I'm particularly proud of. These two connectors are built into the harness right inside the firewall. The functions for each connector is listed in the picture above. It just makes it so I can pull the harness out easily by unclipping connectors rather than having to cut or desolder wires.

After I finished my engine harness I started installing it and populating my interior

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/438a.jpg)

Mocking up my battery holder under the passenger bin

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/439.jpg)

Fastened with nutserts

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/440.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/443.jpg)

More nutserts on the driver's side?

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/444.jpg)
 :yay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/445.jpg)

Loose install of my PCM (waiting on more nutserts and proper bolts)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/441.jpg)

Cutting out a nice little bare metal pad for my ground terminal to sit

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/442.jpg)

How's that for short? :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/447.jpg)

Mounted for now

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/448.jpg)

Routing

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/446.jpg)
Hooray for grommets!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/449.jpg)



That's it for this week

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ablake211 on June 06, 2011, 02:11:52 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on June 06, 2011, 03:13:08 AM
Love it, well thought out and executed. 

I've had mild success with the spray-on sound dampers.  I much prefer mass-loaded vinyl and then closed cell foam on top, but I'm curious what your impressions are about the Lizardskin.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Blade king on June 06, 2011, 04:59:58 AM
Learning alot please keep us updated
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 06, 2011, 03:31:44 PM
Thanks guys!

I've had mild success with the spray-on sound dampers.  I much prefer mass-loaded vinyl and then closed cell foam on top, but I'm curious what your impressions are about the Lizardskin.

I'll have to write a review after I've actually gotten a chance to get some feedback. I expect my application is one of the more thorough (RX7 wise) because I even did the roof lol! I'm not expecting miracles, but I'm hoping I can eliminate any "old car rattles" that might try and pop up.

2nd update in two days??? Yes sir!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/454.jpg)

Something I forgot to mention yesterday is that I added a injector signal 'break' connector into my engine harness. This was simply to make my racelogic TC plug-and-play. It's 16 pins and contains the engine side and pcm side for each injector.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/455.jpg)

While I was at it I made a shorting plug to restore the harness to it's factory config if I ever needed to remove my TC

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/456.jpg)

Shorting plug installed.


(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/450.jpg)

Ta da! Pedals after rebuild

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/451.jpg)

Installed with blingin new hardware

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/452.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/453.jpg)

Now I'll have to do something about that stupid rusty steering shaft  ::)

Lane




Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on June 06, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
I'm gonna go read this build from the start again.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BrownBoy on June 06, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
Wiring looks amazing man, good job! :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Covert5150 on June 07, 2011, 12:21:27 AM
My car is going to be completely stripped during my build after reading this. Everything looks so very nice and clean.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on June 07, 2011, 05:20:26 AM
Awesome pedals!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on June 07, 2011, 10:26:01 AM
Damnit Lane, now I notice that MY pedals are rusty...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: thetastelingers on June 07, 2011, 11:08:06 AM
Not gonna look at my pedals. NOT gonna do it! Wait...I wouldn't do anything about it anyway. LOL

Two updates in two days. COOL!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on June 07, 2011, 12:11:02 PM
Youre becoming inspiring.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 07, 2011, 01:12:56 PM
Thanks everyone!!!  :D

My car is going to be completely stripped during my build after reading this.

Not gonna look at my pedals. NOT gonna do it!

Damnit Lane, now I notice that MY pedals are rusty...

Be careful. Stuff like this turned my "5 month project" into a 17+ month project. It will creep your project's scope like nobody's business and while it's addictive, it will wear on your motivation to work on your car! Save yourselves!!! lol!

See, some of y'all might have thought I was kidding yesterday when I said "Now I'll have to do something about that stupid rusty steering shaft"

sigh....


(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/457.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/458.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/459.jpg)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on June 07, 2011, 01:24:21 PM
New column looks great.

And no worries, I'm at 96 months+ currently.  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BAD-LSX-7 on June 07, 2011, 01:39:41 PM
damn you!!! now im gonna have to do this.. NOT HAPPY!  :punch:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on June 07, 2011, 02:18:06 PM
damn you!!! now im gonna have to do this.. NOT HAPPY!  :punch:

Yup, damn you.  My stuff will come out when my car gets back from paint.  Gotta do the wiring harness anyway...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BAD-LSX-7 on June 07, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
ia gree my junk is on jack stands right now anyways... its the fine touch's  :poke:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 12, 2011, 11:48:03 PM
Did a little bit of work over the weekend.

Started by wrapping up my hood pop and throttle body cables in insulating sleeves because I've heard stories of people's hood cables melting. Wrapped the throttle body cable just because it was looking rough ;)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/460.jpg)

I went ahead and got all my main power lines made and run:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/462.jpg)

Starter - Input from Battery, Output to Alternator. I had a nice little starter blanket, but after working with it for a while I decided I didn't want to use it since the outside reflective layer is highly conducting and I was worried having live terminals so close to it.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/463.jpg)

Alternator - Input from Starter, Output to Fuse Box.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/464.jpg)

Fuse Box - Input from Alternator

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/461.jpg)

The next section is another good example of why my build is taking as long as it is :P
When I got my AC Evaporator, Blower Motor, and Heater Core boxes out of the attic I immediately remembered how dirty they were. Views like this that show the buildup of 18 years of crap had me dreading the smell that would inevitably come out of them once I had them reconnected :(

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/465.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/466.jpg)

Sooo... I decided to do something about it and started disassembling everything for cleaning / refurbishing.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/467.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/468.jpg)

The airflow paddles inside the various boxes were really the worst part. The sealing foam is so old that it crumbles when you touch it. The initial removal was a piece of cake because the foam part scraped off with minimal effort:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/469.jpg)

Just one of the many dustpan loads after sweeping up the paddle foam. Yuck!

The adhesive used to hold the foam to the paddle, however, was a different story. I used a combination of Paint Stripper, Goof off, and acetone to get them clean. It was a job, but in the end I succeeded and re-padded the paddles.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/473.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/470.jpg)

Keeping up with the parts (heater box) :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/472.jpg)

Heater box plastics

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/471.jpg)

Cleaning up the heater core. Replaced the pipe-o-rings and clamps. Also purged the core with the garden hose from both directions.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/474.jpg)

Blower Box Before

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/475.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/484.jpg)

Blower Box After

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/476.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/478.jpg)

Heater Box Before

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/477.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/479.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/480.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/481.jpg)

Heater Box After

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/482.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/483.jpg)

Evaporator Box After

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/485.jpg)

Done!

Oh, yeah, and I also skinned my headliner in preparation for new upholstery:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/486.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/487.jpg)




Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AHarada on June 13, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
Awesome work Lane.  You always take the extra time and effort, and that's why your build is great. 

How did you run the power cable into the engine bay?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 13, 2011, 04:28:47 PM
Awesome work Lane.  You always take the extra time and effort, and that's why your build is great. 

How did you run the power cable into the engine bay?

I drilled a hole in the firewall! :P

Pictures of the power cable from inside the cabin as well as its escape are documented in this post

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg94138#msg94138 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg94138#msg94138)

Thanks for the compliments :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Tictakman on June 13, 2011, 07:40:33 PM
Just wait to see how shitty the blower fan is when you hook it up.  Im waiting for someone to post a "update" to the blower so it pushes more air closer to today's standards.

Z
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BeasTT on June 13, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Yikes. Brought back memories of my HVAC which had a family of mice living in it  :barf:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rajeevx7 on June 14, 2011, 03:13:28 PM
Good job Lane  :bacon:

I took my evaporator box to an AC shop and they told me not to worry about the foam disintegrating. What they did advise was to make sure the sealing rings of all the flaps were clean so they would actually seal between recirculation and windshield cowl air.

Also, have to go back and pick up some O-rings that are r134 safe. Along with a new expansion valve, because that is a part that fails with age and mine is old! Check out my evaporator box before I cleaned it...this is a well taken car of 3rd owner car. Garaged 95% of the time as evident by my original '92 BB paint job that is still...brilliant:-)

Takeaway....everyone has to remove the evaporator box anyway if planting the LS ecu up there, so clean it out!  :poke:[attachimg=1] :barf:[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 14, 2011, 03:22:22 PM
Great information rajeevx7! I actually cleaned my AC evaporator out last summer, but I didn't open it, I just hosed it out. Now after seeing yours I'm thinking I'd better take a look inside. I'll go ahead and replace the expansion valve too!

So far my seals look like they are going to work perfectly. The seal between the cowl inlet and the blower box is air tight, as is both sides of the AC evaporator box :D

Thanks for the comments!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: need RX7 on June 17, 2011, 04:22:39 PM
Great build, the quality is superb! I love when no detail is overlooked. I look forward to seeing more updates.  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: pakmanlsx on June 28, 2011, 01:48:27 AM
Im still new to the forum but thats awesome man.  just spent 2 hours reading that and running to look at my car. keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Bigblockquad on June 28, 2011, 02:29:36 AM
Might want to wrap the starter and selenoid.  Probably more a "piece of mind" thing but the long tubes can put off enough radiant heat to kill selenoids fairly quick.

BTW, great build thread, especially the Speedhut gauges.  :bacon:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 28, 2011, 02:46:40 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys! I actually cranked her up the other day. I'm having some idle issues, but I should have it worked out soon. Look for a video soon :D


Might want to wrap the starter and selenoid.  Probably more a "piece of mind" thing but the long tubes can put off enough radiant heat to kill selenoids fairly quick.

I agree. I actually have a DEI heat blanket for it, but I was very concerned when I found out that the outside reflective part of the blanket is highly conductive. One touch against the blanket with the terminal of the big 12v power wire and it would be shorted to be block :( With my luck, it would happen when I'm driving down the highway in the middle of nowhere. I haven't given up yet though. I'll strap it back on before I get it on the road and see if I can find a better way to secure it so windy conditions won't cause electrons to flow where they shouldn't ;)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Bigblockquad on July 01, 2011, 08:17:04 PM
Not to nutswing but this thread is filled with all sorts of WIN.  I just read it in its entirety and WOW. 

BTW, any updates on the idle issue?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 05, 2011, 05:11:33 PM
Thanks Bigblockquad :)

The idle issue was on hold over the holiday weekend. I'm pretty sure I'm just not getting enough air when idling with the cams I have. I get my HPTuners Pro package tomorrow, so hopefully I can get some feedback from my IAC and see if I need to drill my TB blade.

I'm hoping to have it solved this weekend. Lookout for some videos soon :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 10, 2011, 11:44:20 PM
This weekend was filled with happy and one sad events.

Sad because I had to chop up Kevin's work of art...

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/488.jpg)

Because of differences in our engine mounts I had to chop out the sections circled in red. Afterwards I connected the V-band + Pipe stubs to the x-over with flex pipe:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/496.jpg)

*Note* The flex pipe is only a temporary solution. I think it turned out really well, but it is only so I can dial in my idle in my quiet neighborhood and take it to an exhaust shop in peace :)

Now... On to the happy events!

Finished my Dash Harness:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/489.jpg)

The biggest changes include a plug for my dash pod gauges and a plug for my new custom gauge cluster.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/494.jpg)

Started putting some of my harnesses back IN the car. Dash is actually in at the moment, but I'm a little behind on my pictures (see below for an explanation!).

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/490.jpg)

Grounding the ECU

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/491.jpg)

Ooooo! Nylon screws and spacers! :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/493.jpg)

Finished wiring up my fuel pump:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/492.jpg)

Took rajeevx7's advice and replaced my expansion valve & o-rings. Good thing I did too because it looks like it had old R12 o-rings :(

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/495.jpg)

Bolted in my exhaust :D



And now... What I've really been up to!

LS1 RX7 Crank and Move (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQyD_9rKf3I#ws)

Yes sirs! My car has moved a total of ~10 ft under its own power!!! That makes it ~10ft total its moved under its own power in > 2 years.

:chug:
Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 10, 2011, 11:47:06 PM
Congrats.   Feels great to actually have it move, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 10, 2011, 11:54:27 PM
Thank you! Yes sir it does!!! I can see some light at the end of the tunnel :)

PS
*edit* - I'm stupid  :P
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 10, 2011, 11:57:41 PM
Thank you! Yes sir it does!!! I can see some light at the end of the tunnel :)

PS
Blake!!! You need to to add youtube embed support to your forum!!!

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=977 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=977)
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=936 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=936)

We've had that for a year.   Just paste the link, not the embed script, not the funky you.tube crap.  Just the normal link.   Don't make it complicated.  :P

LS1 RX7 Crank and Move (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQyD_9rKf3I#ws)

See?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 11, 2011, 12:01:13 AM

We've had that for a year.   Just paste the link, not the embed script, not the funky you.tube crap.  Just the normal link.   Don't make it complicated.  :P

LS1 RX7 Crank and Move (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQyD_9rKf3I#ws)

See?

Doh! My bad! I wasn't using the embed script, but youtube gave me some funky youtube.be link and I didn't even realize it. Sorry about that. You da man Blake!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on July 11, 2011, 04:00:19 AM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on July 11, 2011, 11:04:06 PM
I just wanna say that I watched what would be a very boring video for most people with a smile on my face because I know how good that feels.   :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Demon on July 11, 2011, 11:19:18 PM
Awesome build, very clean, and very well thought out. I did the same thing with the race logic harness, great minds think alike. :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 24, 2011, 04:28:38 PM
Thought I'd pop back in and give an update.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/512.jpg)
Engine bay. 95% complete. AC Lines will go in after paint when Pez finishes them. Heater lines are looped after my heater core blew chunks, HID ballasts aren't mounted, and I've got to throw on my coil covers.

I've done a good bit of work diagnosing some weak spots in my tune. The biggest thing I've accomplished is that I used HPTuner's compare function with a stock tune to determine that my mail order tune was still set for stock fuel injectors when in fact I'm running SVO 42# green tops. Using Greg Banish's injector data I was able to correct the problem which kicked my idle into near-perfect shape :)
My IAC counts are a little high ~ 100-120 and I have a little bit of backfire, so that's concerning, but so far I have been unable to get it to go down using TB idle set screw + TPS and IAC resets.
Last weekend I installed my new LS7 card style MAF along with a new Samberg TB to intake adapter along with Hz/Airflow MAF calibration table from zkeller who has similar hardware. This leads me to my biggest issue at the moment. Low load and rpm acceleration falls on its face shortly after crank. From what I've seen though, it improves once the car has warmed up which leads me to think the problem is during open loop operation. To isolate the problem I disabled the MAP and made the necessary changes to force the PCM to run closed loop and only reference the VE table. Unfortunately that didn't help and actually made it a tad worse since lifting would cause the engine to choke and one time around the block I clunked out (no vacuum = holy crap my brakes don't work!). Right now I'm guessing it's a mix between an untuned VE table and an untuned MAF table. Hopefully I'll be able to get some tuning time in after the car comes back from the shop.

While on the topic of paint, that's what I've mainly spent the last 2 weeks doing.I've been doing everything I can to make the job easy on the painters and hopefully lower the price.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/506.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/507.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/508.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/509.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/510.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/511.jpg)

Here it is ready for paint. I've stripped the moldings and lined the interior with plastic in hopes that they won't overspray any of it.

My wiring is now 99% complete. I only need to wire in my traction control control module and my dash pod gauges. Both should be easy since the receiving plugs and wiring are in place. I just have to wire the gauges and control module to a mating connector.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/497.jpg)
Finished rear harness with integrated aftermarket Alarm, Traction Control, Fuel Pump, Trunk Pop.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/498.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/500.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/499.jpg)
Finished floor harness with integrated aftermarket Wideband, Traction Control, Cruise Control, and HP Tuners

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/503.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/501.jpg)

Passenger bay area. Looking crowded, but there's a lot jammed in there. Traction Control injector interface, Cruise Control Wiring, HP Tuners interface, Battery, ECU, and a Innovate LC-1 wideband controller

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/502.jpg)
A look at the Rear Harness connecting to the main traction control brain and a 4 relay box that controls my fuel pump, trunk pop, and defroster circuits

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/504.jpg)
Wiring up a clock contact so that my quick disconnect steering wheel's horn will still work.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/505.jpg)
Some temporary interior in for testing


That's it for now. Hoping to work on mocking up my HIDs this weekend then she'll be going in for paint on Monday :D

Lane
 


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: thetastelingers on August 24, 2011, 04:48:21 PM
Looking really good man.
Coming along nicely.

The NRG short hub will bring your steering wheel closer to the control stalks.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Brent on August 24, 2011, 05:29:45 PM
Very nice build.  Look forward to seeing how you like the traction control.  I have one I got a while ago that I may end up putting in eventually.  I have some friends running the racelogic TC on some other vehicles and absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on August 24, 2011, 11:30:08 PM
This is coming along great Lane!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on August 25, 2011, 12:03:58 AM
I fucking love this build i hope you don't mind me taking some of your ideas they're just too good to pass up.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 25, 2011, 04:38:24 PM
Thanks everyone!

@ thetastelingers - Yeah, the Momo Adpter + Standard NRG is making me wish I'd gone with the shorter version.  Oh well :)

@ LNF_AJ - No worries, most of my stuff isn't really my ideas. It's just a combined recipe from the 100s if not 1000s of build threads I've looked at over the years :D

Cheers!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on August 25, 2011, 10:54:04 PM
Thanks everyone!

@ thetastelingers - Yeah, the Momo Adpter + Standard NRG is making me wish I'd gone with the shorter version.  Oh well :)

@ LNF_AJ - No worries, most of my stuff isn't really my ideas. It's just a combined recipe from the 100s if not 1000s of build threads I've looked at over the years :D

Cheers!

Lane

Haha i know what you mean i've looked so many build threads over and i've seen so many thing's i want to do and it's making it more and more expensive.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 29, 2011, 12:22:09 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IYXkMMD2BJo/TNNb0BopP0I/AAAAAAAAAKk/e_6JKSXCopc/s1600/005_professor.png)

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

It's officially in the paint shop!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/official2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on August 29, 2011, 12:28:58 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IYXkMMD2BJo/TNNb0BopP0I/AAAAAAAAAKk/e_6JKSXCopc/s1600/005_professor.png)

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

It's officially in the paint shop!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/official2.jpg)

Great job sir, what color did you decide on?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on August 29, 2011, 12:37:15 PM
Hahaha I can hear his voice in that pic.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 29, 2011, 12:55:18 PM
Thanks Gents!

Great job sir, what color did you decide on?

Nothing fancy. Factory Black :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 29, 2011, 03:27:35 PM
More good news that actually happened earlier this weekend!

I spent most of Sunday trying to sort out my boggy acceleration. I figured the best way to do this was to access as much of my sensors as possible, so I started by finishing up the wiring for my 4 gauge dash pod (AFR, FP, Voltage, and IAT) and mocked up my gauge cluster. I also wanted to try something a little different with my LS7 MAF, so I dissected a 2008 6.2L LS3 Corvette rom (uses the same LS7 MAF) and got the MAF tables. After some mild conversions to fit the differing table sizes between the LS3 and the LS1 I had another tune to try and uploaded it to my PCM.  After I started the car and backed it into the driveway I immediately noticed that my fuel pressure was 71 PSI!!! This was somewhat alarming because I had set the fuel pressure to 59PSI at idle the first time I started my car. I had my gauge temporarily setup for the initial calibration of my FPR and I figured it wouldn't change so I removed it so I wouldn't accidentally knock it around while I was putting together my interior. Well, somewhere between bolting on my exhaust and fixing my fuel injector data (which raised my idle rpm from ~500 to 800) my fuel pressure crept up 12 PSI. I don't really know what type of change the MAF table made since the fuel pressure was obviously the ruling factor in my car's driveability.

Needless to say, my car runs much smoother now :D

Hooray for easy fixes!!!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on September 01, 2011, 03:16:50 PM
Awesome.


Awesome.


Awesome.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 09, 2011, 02:05:53 PM
Time for a couple loose end updates.

Here's a shot I forgot to post that I took right before I fixed my fuel pressure problem. It shows all of my gauges including a 4 gauge flyrx7 pod I've kept on the lowdown ;)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/513.jpg)

Like many of you, I have a hard time sitting still, so while my car's in for paint I've been working on other projects.

First up is my interior. I've been working on wrapping my interior panels with 3M DINOC. So far I'm very impressed. With a heat gun this stuff can basically conform to anything! When it cools down it's TOUGH too which is a big plus for me.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/514.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/515.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/516.jpg)

So far I've only got the shift surround and the climate control panel done. I believe the CC panel is going to be the hardest panel I'll be doing. Not because of the shape but because of all the crap I had to remove including things that weren't made to be removed like the status filters / screens.

This weekend I also epoxied and clear coated my garage floor.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/517.jpg)
After degreasing and etching.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/518.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/519.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/520.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/521.jpg)
Painted and clear coated!

Last but not least, I traded my little pickup to my Dad for his 04 BMW 525i E60 chassis + cash to be my DD. I'm not crazy about BMW's, especially when knowing that DIY mindset owners are extremely limited out there (at least with late models), but my Dad gave me a deal I couldn't pass up so I caved :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/522.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/523.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/524.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/525.jpg)

I was just about to abandon the idea of tinkering with it, but then the BMW's salvation came in the form of NCSExpert. DIY Aux audio input, here I come  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on September 09, 2011, 02:50:00 PM
BMWs honestly aren't that bad to work on.   There is a big community for them.   Nice car BTW.

I'm jealous of the floor.   I need to do mine, but am unable to commit myself to the massive job that is getting everything off of my floor, haha.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on September 09, 2011, 02:59:27 PM
Nice.  You'll like the floor.  I love mine.  So easy to clean up.  That Dinoc looks killer.  I forget, is that adhesive backed?  How much did you pay for the flyrx7 pod?  Some prices I've seen are freaking crazy expensive for a gauge pod.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 09, 2011, 03:23:51 PM
BMWs honestly aren't that bad to work on.   There is a big community for them.   Nice car BTW.

Thanks for that Blake. I really was disappointed when at first glance it seemed like everyone on every bmw forum I could find ended their post in, "The dealer scheduled me in for XX/XX and it's only going to cost me $$$." I still believe BMW owners are a completely different group of enthusiasts than I'm used to, but I'm slowly finding the back alleys to people who do their own work and SHARE their procedures :)

Nice.  You'll like the floor.  I love mine.  So easy to clean up.  That Dinoc looks killer.  I forget, is that adhesive backed?  How much did you pay for the flyrx7 pod?  Some prices I've seen are freaking crazy expensive for a gauge pod.

Yep! My Dad has always epoxied his garage floors so I know how nice they are. I'm looking forward to getting my cars in there! The only reason I didn't do it when I bought the house is because my RX7 was in storage and it was costing me $100 a month to keep it there :(
Thanks! The Dinoc is adhesive backed. It's sticky, but not that sticky; and a heat gun really softens it up to conform to curves. So far it's been a lot of fun :)
The flyrx7 LHD 4 gauge pod was $170 straight from Frank himself (flyrx7@aol.com). Contrary to what people think, he still manufactures them in limited numbers. It may seem a little steep until you get your hands on it. Small things like countersunk locking screws for the gauges (hex key included) and internal cutouts for wire routing make it a stunning piece. Not to mention the fitment and finish are absolutely top notch! It's especially worth it when you consider people have no problem selling these used to uninformed buyers on the club for more than Frank sells them for new.

Lane
 


 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on September 09, 2011, 06:54:45 PM
Nice.  thanks for the info.  Not as bad as the 2nd handers you see like you said.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Brent on September 10, 2011, 02:01:12 AM
Everything looks really good!  I'm really like the the 3m wrapped interior panels.  x1000 on the gauge pod being a nice piece.  I bought one from Frank and ran it in my last track car and it was top notch.  Are you from TN originally?  I see the Franklin/Brentwood tag on the bimmer.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 10, 2011, 12:12:00 PM
Thanks guys.

Brent - No sir. The BMW still has my Dad's tags on it. My parents live in TN, but I'm still a little further south in MS :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: RX7what on September 10, 2011, 01:06:56 PM
What's with all the little houses that look exactly the same across the street from the BMW?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mattster03 on September 10, 2011, 04:50:38 PM
The 3M panels turned out awesome!  I was thinking about doing that for a while now... ya just sold me on it!  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 11, 2011, 04:37:00 PM
Thanks Matt. I'm hoping it will hold up in these southern summers. Time will tell :)

What's with all the little houses that look exactly the same across the street from the BMW?

Haha! Lots of people ask about that. Starkville is a college town so inexpensive duplicated houseplans dominate the market here. There are countless developments here that look that way. Those particular houses in the picture's are rentals.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 22, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Still working on making my interior panels look pretty :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/526.jpg)
Shaved the cruise control and odometer reset stalk hole with kitty hair and a little bit of body filler.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/527.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/528.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/529.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/530.jpg)

I'm not going to lie. The gauge cluster was a major PITA to wrap. The top was where I spent most of my time and in the end I had to resort to making some cuts to make it sit down straight. All-in-all it was a 4 hour wrap. I would have definitely paid someone to do it for me if they could have done a better job than me ;) As it is, I'm going to keep it like it is and if the cuts / misaligned pattern at the top of the piece where the hood attaches bothers me too much I'll try and re-wrap it down the road.

Here's some small updates from the paint shop!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/531.jpg)
Rear emblem holes filled

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/532.jpg)
Front bumper is painted, but the filled emblem holes are showing so he's going to shoot it again

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/533.jpg)
Another shot of the bumper. Looks good apart from the filled hole problem

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/534.jpg)
Front hood has been painted, but the painter said the clean coat didn't turn out perfect, so he's blocked it for another shot

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/535.jpg)
Looks good. They filled my water jet holes and fixed a bump where the PO shut the hood on a big aftermarket TB.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/536.jpg)
Fenders aren't in the pictures but they're primed and ready for paint. The owner said they'll be done with my front bumper tomorrow and I can pick them up and take them home if I want to.

Next steps are to remove the doors for prep and paint while also painting the jambs. Next he's going to do all the hatch work and paint. Finally he's going to finish by painting the rear bumper, rear 1/4s and roof. I'm happy with the progress :D

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on September 22, 2011, 05:58:07 PM
I love that Dinoc Stuff.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Venom13132 on September 22, 2011, 08:03:00 PM
i am getting ready to wrap my gauge cluster.  I did the a/c, shifter console, and hood already.  I have a feeling the cluster is going to suck. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 22, 2011, 09:17:11 PM
Thanks Matt!

i am getting ready to wrap my gauge cluster.  I did the a/c, shifter console, and hood already.  I have a feeling the cluster is going to suck.

Believe me it does :(
But its good you've done some other panels before jumping into it. I'm sure you'll do fine :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 26, 2011, 02:27:36 PM
Just a little more Di-noc goodness for this update:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/537.jpg)
Cluster hood and passenger control panel + new aluminum SBG handle :D
I'm not sure if I want to leave it bare aluminum, powdercoat it black, wrap it in di-noc, or put the OEM cover on it...

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/538.jpg)
This is pretty much what the final product is going to look like installed

Lane



Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on September 26, 2011, 03:03:39 PM
I thought this build couldn't get any better.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on September 26, 2011, 05:47:07 PM
Your work is, as always, excellent Lane.

I vote matte black or factory cover for the door pull, unless there is more aluminum in the interior, it'll stand out.   I loves me some subtle mods though, so take that as you will.  ;)

-Blake
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on September 26, 2011, 08:22:21 PM
Yep.  Powdercoat it satin black.  I have to use that dinoc on something.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on September 27, 2011, 03:26:49 AM
PC Satin Black as well.

It's too bad SB didn't go through with the map pocket, the ones they were going to make were actually textured and not  brushed aluminum. :(

btw saw the club post you made lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rajeevx7 on September 27, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
I vote wraping it with the factory leather. When I installed mine there was a gap between the plastic and metal big enough that only the leather would cover. Ours *should* be the same and there is no room for gaps on a car of this caliber;-)

Alot of people are going to do the dinoc because you made it look easy! Just a note to those peeps; heat is your friend. Heat it up to a fabric like consistency that just drapes over the curves. Don't leave the heat on too close to one spot because it will burn the vinyl.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 27, 2011, 03:25:45 PM
Thanks for the complements and votes guys! Raj makes a good point. The stock plastic/vinyl handle cover does 'seal' the handle by filling the cracks, especially at the top of the grip. I guess that's what I'll go with unless I can convince somebody to make an aftermarket leather replacement :D I'll contact redlinegoods.com and see if they're interested since they've already made me shift and ebrake boots + a console cover.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 03, 2011, 03:32:29 PM
Continuing from post 151; I managed to work on my headliner a little this weekend:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/539.jpg)
The headliner board seen here is just very thin fiberglass and it's been stripped of the stock tan vinyl

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/540.jpg)
Here I am about 70% done. The process basically involved spraying down adhesive foam and smoothing out the foam backed vinyl to the contours of the headliner

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/541.jpg)
On the backside of the headliner the vinyl is cut into flaps, pulled around the perimeter and glued to the back.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/542.jpg)
About 80% done. I'm waiting on some welt to finish the last seam (top middle) and I have yet to make the accessory cutouts. Oh yeah, it's perforated :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: RX7what on October 03, 2011, 04:02:09 PM
Why did you make a seam in the headliner? I have recovered one with out a seam. I am getting ready to redo my current headliner with black alcantara.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 03, 2011, 04:58:54 PM
Why did you make a seam in the headliner? I have recovered one with out a seam. I am getting ready to redo my current headliner with black alcantara.

It wasn't intentional. This is also my first attempt and upholstering anything ;)
You can see in my 70% done photo that I have a huge fold near the front end of the liner. The fold just kind of made it's way around the liner as I was contouring the vinyl trying to keep wrinkles from forming. It's something I could normally have dealt with on regular vinyl with the proper application of heat (like with my wrapped interior pieces covered previously), but this headliner material has foam backing that makes heating, stretching, and shrinking extremely difficult (for me). Personally, I couldn't get this material to stretch at all even with heat, which made wrinkle elimination very challenging (for me). This is what I was working with:

http://www.yourautotrim.com/vinauthead.html (http://www.yourautotrim.com/vinauthead.html)

And this is what I was using for adhesive:

http://www.amazon.com/Super-74-Foam-Fast-Adhesive/dp/B001KVVQBK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317675368&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Super-74-Foam-Fast-Adhesive/dp/B001KVVQBK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317675368&sr=8-2)

I don't know what other people use, but the 3M 74 stuff has like a 30 second window before it's seriously stuck. I was considering taking another crack at it, but the adhesive is so strong, it was pulling the headliner board apart, so I'll just have to make due with what I've got :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Cryptic on October 03, 2011, 05:38:06 PM
My garage floor is epoxied like yours  :bacon:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mattster03 on October 10, 2011, 01:27:45 PM
Is your Momo Tuner steering wheel the 320mm or the 350mm? I'm looking to get one myself for a little help getting in and out the car w/the door bar in  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 10, 2011, 03:33:28 PM
Hey Matt. It's a 320mm wheel. It's noticeably smaller than stock, but with power steering it's still very easy to use :)

Here's a couple of pictures from when I stopped by the paint shop earlier today.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/543.jpg)
Front hood has been painted, wetsanded, and polished, but needs its final buff.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/544.jpg)
One of the completed front fenders

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/545.jpg)
Front bumper. Done!

The sunroof and headlight covers are also done but they were laying in the trunk and I didn't want to lift the freakn heavy hatch without hydraulics :P

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 19, 2011, 12:31:46 PM
Decided to do a 99+ tail light conversion this week.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/547.jpg)
I started with near mint set of 93 taillights I picked up from str8ryd (awesome seller).

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/548a.jpg)
Removed the lenses with a heat gun and screw driver

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/549.jpg)
Also removed the filters with a heat gun and screw driver

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/550.jpg)
Test circles made of paper for centering measurements

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/551.jpg)
Circles made of scrap 3M DI-NOC were used for final masking. Yet another wonderful use of DI-NOC! All hail DI-NOC! :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/552.jpg)
Painted with Krylon Fusion gloss black spay paint

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/553.jpg)
Filters reinstalled in the bases + DI-NOC masks removed

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/554.jpg)
Lenses reinstalled. Finished Product! Saved myself $300-$400 bucks :D

Oh yes, and my bumper and fenders are back home. Here's my bumper with a little bit of swag mocked up on it:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/546.jpg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mattster03 on October 19, 2011, 12:36:49 PM
dammit!  added to my list of stuff to do this winter  :yay:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on October 19, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
I really, really, really like this car...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Covert5150 on October 19, 2011, 01:45:56 PM
(http://media.photobucket.com/image/jizzed%20in%20my%20pants/BlckPrl_album/I_jizz_in_my_pants_by_HOLIMOUNT.jpg)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on October 19, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 21, 2011, 03:42:07 PM
Thanks buds! And damn! Covert is speechless! I think that's the first time I've gotten that ;)

I went by the paint shop today to find that they have started on my door and jambs. I'm pretty excited because between the thorough job with the jambs and my sound/thermal proofing inside there's not going to be green paint anywhere after they are done!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/556.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/555.jpg)

That's it for this week.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: andrewb70 on October 21, 2011, 04:40:20 PM
I just went through all the pages. Nicely done! Keep up the great work.

Andrew
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 31, 2011, 04:14:24 PM
Thanks Andrew  :cheers:

More of the same this week. I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed in the status update this week  :(

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/557.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/558.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/559.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/560.jpg)

Keep'n the faith

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 15, 2011, 02:04:45 PM
After my last update I decided I'd probably have a good bit of time on my hands until I got my car back so I bought another 48"x48" sheet of Di-NOC and started round 2.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/561.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/562.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/563.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/564.jpg)

They'll be much more Di-NOC coming up. I have 2 things I'm wrapping that I've never seen anyone else wrap in a FD. I think it's going to look great!

Also picked up a nifty 8pin circular Amphenol Mil spec connector to build a quick disconnect for my wideband sensor, so I don't have to unplug it from the interface every time I want to unscrew the sensor.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/565.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/566.jpg)

Turns out I may not have as much time on my hands as I'd thought. I stopped by the paintshop yesterday and they've been getting sh!t done :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/567.jpg)
The window molding has been the subject of a recent discussion. We settled on cutting it out and replacing it with an aftermarket t-channel molding. Hopefully eliminating the need to remove the windshield while being able to paint where the new molding will go.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/568.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/570.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/569.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/571.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/572.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/573.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/574.jpg)

Don't mind the 'flake.' It's just dust. Pretty happy with the paint guys right now :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 15, 2011, 04:04:42 PM
Interested to see the dinoc covering.  I may steal more of your dinoc ideas.   :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Demon on November 15, 2011, 04:51:27 PM
Nice race logic, I'm about to finish up the install on ours, should be a nice setup for sure on yours!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 18, 2011, 12:23:42 PM
Nice race logic, I'm about to finish up the install on ours, should be a nice setup for sure on yours!

Thanks! I'm not completely happy with the controller mount, but I'm eager to see it in action!


Ventured out to the exterior of the car and wrapped my light surrounds.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/576.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/577.jpg)

I wasn't really planning to wrap anything on the exterior because I never have been a big fan of the look of CF aero parts, but I really like the the subtleness of this wrap's matte finish and I'm liking how the surrounds turned out. I think I'll wrap my door lock panels and the window triangles then call it for the exterior.

Also finished the trunk-2-hatch trim

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/575.jpg)

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 18, 2011, 02:17:27 PM
I thought about the doorlocks too but I thought the Matte finish would stand out against all the other semi gloss black stuff on the outside.  It might look nice though. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 18, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
I thought about the doorlocks too but I thought the Matte finish would stand out against all the other semi gloss black stuff on the outside.  It might look nice though.

I have the same concerns. Oh well, if it looks crappy, I'll just peal it off and either have it painted or wrap it in semi-gloss vinyl :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 18, 2011, 03:54:33 PM
Wait a bit before you do it, I have pics of one done at home I'm almost certain.  I'll post em when I get back from work.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Shavel on November 19, 2011, 06:20:05 PM
Di-Noc everything!  I have a nasty looking ashtray with some and some spare Di-Noc as well...  Great build! 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Bigblockquad on November 20, 2011, 09:37:49 PM
[attachimg=1]

Just an idea on placement of the Racelogic head unit.  It rarely needs to be monitored so in a place where taking a glance at it works best IMO.

Plus having to put your hand through a smaller steering wheel, while driving, to turn and push the knob will get old.  That and it glows green against amber gauges at night might get old as well.

Just my .02

Rich.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 21, 2011, 05:31:22 PM
[attachimg=1]

Just an idea on placement of the Racelogic head unit.  It rarely needs to be monitored so in a place where taking a glance at it works best IMO.

Plus having to put your hand through a smaller steering wheel, while driving, to turn and push the knob will get old.  That and it glows green against amber gauges at night might get old as well.

Just my .02

Rich.

Hey Rich

Fortunately, my gauges glow blue, so green on blue isn't too bad, but I do like the idea. I agree completely about reach through a steering wheel to adjust the unit! I have considered putting it in a DIN slot but was trying to avoid to because I wanted to run a dual DIN headunit. Still, your install looks VERY clean which makes me want to re-investigate the possibility. Did you install yours yourself? If so, can you offer any tips on where to get a DIN cover like yours?

Thanks for the help
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 22, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
[attach=1][attach=2]As promised.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 22, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
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Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 22, 2011, 05:21:29 PM
I like it! I think it would look even better on a black car  :yay:

Thanks for the pics Matt.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Bigblockquad on November 23, 2011, 12:06:39 AM
Actually I had a buddy who does custom stereo work make it for me.  I'm sure he could make another if you need one.  Let me know

Rich.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 30, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
Actually I had a buddy who does custom stereo work make it for me.  I'm sure he could make another if you need one.  Let me know

Rich.

Rich - Thanks for the offer. I'm going to see what it looks like when it's mounted behind the steering wheel then go from there. If I move it to the dash I'll probably take a stab at doing it myself, but if I fail, I may take you up on your offer :)



I made a quick bi-weekly stop by the paintshop today. Here's what's happening.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/580.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/581.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/582.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/583.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/584.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/585.jpg)

Pretty exciting for me. The rear, rear-quarters, doors, hatch, and roof are all that's left to paint and the prep is almost all done. They're going to shoot everything at once hopefully in the next week or so.

I also had to face facts this week and admit that re-upholstering a headliner is not something I should be doing. Halfway through my second attempt my headliner looked like this:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/578.jpg)

The part that was really giving me trouble was the rear-passenger corner:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/579.jpg)

Here you can see the wrinkles I was dealing with. It doesn't look like something that would be a show stopper, but after peeling the vinyl back multiple time and carefully reapplying, I could not get it to sit flat with any level of coaxing or stretching. I don't know if it was just me, the material, or the fact that it only had 1/8" backing, but as of today I've thrown in the towel and have worked it out to get another headliner from someone local. It's a shame really... As much as I spent on the vinyl to re-upholster that POS, I could have easily bought a headliner in the first place and saved myself a lot of time and trouble :(

Oh well, can't win them all.

Lane
Title: Fuel sender/Speedhut
Post by: r71 on December 01, 2011, 09:34:55 PM
Hey Lane, I copied your Speedhut setup but I'm having some trouble with couple of my gauges. In an attempt to set up the fuel level gauge, I hooked up a spare fuel sender and calibrated it. When I move the sender arm up and down, you can see the gauge move. Then I plug it into my unit in the gas tank and it just goes to Empty.

Here's the funny thing. Yesterday it worked. It was sitting at 3/4 tank which is about right. Today after taking things apart, I had to recalibrate it and now it doesn't work.

Here's how we hooked it up. I tapped the yellow wire from the gauge into the white/green wire in the instrument cluster which is the same wire at the sending unit. I check continuity, it's the same one.
How do you have yours hooked up?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 01, 2011, 09:53:02 PM
Hooking it up to the W/G wire which leads to the sender should work. However, if you're having issues, I would check the sender's ground. If you check out page Z-44 in the FSM you'll see that the sender's ground goes through connectors B1-06, X-24, X-19, X-07, and X-14 before it actually hits the chassis. If any one of those connectors are unplugged it won't work. Personally, I didn't like that long path to ground so I just grounded the sender to the chassis right by its plug B1-06.

Apart from the hookup advice I can't offer much help because I haven't calibrated any of my gauges yet. I think your idea for using a spare sender as a calibrating tool is fine. You may want to use an ohm meter to make sure both senders show the following:

Full: 81.2 ohms
Empty: 5.5 ohms

My idea was to calibrate the gauge using a 6ohm and 81ohm resistors, but I'll have to check that theory when I actually have a car in my garage to test it on :)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: r71 on December 01, 2011, 10:12:24 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll cheek it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 05, 2011, 09:51:56 AM
After my headliner upholstery disaster my buddy Jimmy (gmtech1978) stepped in and hooked me up with a free tan headliner. I am soooo happy to have it. Shipping these things are a royal PITA, so having somebody local with one laying around was a life saver!

I've heard good things about VHT vinyl dye, so I gave it a shot:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/586.jpg)
Each can is good for a medium coat. I put down 3 medium coats.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/587.jpg)
What I started with

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/588.jpg)
2 coats down. Hopefully the 3rd coat will take care of the splotchyness in the bottom right hand corner :)

Thanks again Jimmy!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: gmtech1978 on December 05, 2011, 10:54:14 PM
man it was my pleasure. and all u other guys can be jealous that this awesome build and builder is just a stones throw me so i got my own help desk ...hee hee  jk lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
Wrapped up a few more parts in DI-NOC

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/589.jpg)

Kick panels, Map Pocket (Modded as one piece (Who uses the pocket anyway?)), and the little gas door/trunk pop panel. The gas door / trunk pop was actually the hardest of the 4.

I'll check on my car at the paint shop tomorrow. Hopefully I'll get some good news :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mattster03 on December 13, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
Someone's got Dinoc fever!  I put a sheet of it on my Xmas wish list this year  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: r71 on December 13, 2011, 05:17:23 PM
Stop it already! You're killing me.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2011, 05:26:27 PM
Thanks guys!

Matt! I'll wrap you a piece or two if you'll make me a damn trans hole cover for my MGW shifter!  :yay:

r71: Haha! Just wait till I get to the engine bay sir :)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 14, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
My paint guy told me today that he's looking to shoot the car next WEEK! Very excited!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/590.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/591.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/592.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/593.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/594.jpg)

He was successfully able to remove the rear window's molding and the aftermarket molding he's going to replace it with looks fantastic!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Cryptic on December 14, 2011, 03:38:13 PM
Niiiiiiiiice you shaved the hatch key hole and the antennae hole. 

I shaved the antennae too, but it didn't even cross my mind to do that hatch key hole too.

Are you going to pull the rear bumper off and then spray?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 14, 2011, 03:50:28 PM
Whoah! You made me look twice Cryptic. I've got a hatch popper going in so it wouldn't be a disaster if they did shave the key hole, but I didn't request it. I believe it's just masked with a little ball of green painter's tape at the moment, assuming its the hole centered directly under the white primered section on my bumper.

I believe the rear bumper is staying on when they shoot next week.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Cryptic on December 14, 2011, 04:09:32 PM
LOL... yeah, that 2nd to last picture looked to be bondoed / primered like a hole was filled in.

I think you will want the rear bumper pulled off or you will "bond" the rear bumper to the body and you could end up with a paint cracking at that seam down the line. Or if you ever have to take the bumper off it could be a problem.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 14, 2011, 04:14:51 PM
I think you will want the rear bumper pulled off or you will "bond" the rear bumper to the body and you could end up with a paint cracking at that seam down the line. Or if you ever have to take the bumper off it could be a problem.

Good observation. I'll talk to them about it before they shoot it.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 21, 2011, 03:39:00 PM
I spied my car in the paint booth this morning! Should only be a day or two more before its back home  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on December 21, 2011, 04:44:20 PM
Super exciting.  I remember when my car got painted earlier this year, it was impossible to actually figure out when it'll be done.  Then, once you get it back, there's always little pieces (mirrors, hardware, extra bodywork) that gets left.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: FowlerMotorsports on December 25, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
I think I am more excited about you finishing this car then you are! I love this build, I have been persuading myself to do a FD build no matter how long it takes and to see it took you 2 years to get yours moving 10ft shows the dedication you have. Job well done, I am very excited for you! Hopefully I can get me a project going soon
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 13, 2012, 10:04:48 AM
Well, as you can probably imagine. I didn't get my car back a few days after my last post :(

It turns out that while my paint was curing back in December it developed a defect that made the paint look like it has fine lines running through it. It's hard to explain since it's very very fine lines and not something you can feel with your fingertip. It baffled my paint guy. He says the only thing he's seen that's similar to it was with a car he repainted that had fresher paint than he realized (fresh enough that it had not fully cured) and that after he painted it again and baked it the paint underneath contracted and expanded at a different rate than the paint on top. The painter said he'd like to let mr car cure for a month then he'd sand it down and try again using the paint with problems as the sealer. A month's come and gone so I went by and talked to him a few days ago and he said he was planning on getting started this week. He's still pretty gun shy about the whole thing, but at least he's covering all the extra expense. I just hope it comes out right this time. I expect it'll be another month before the car's actually out.

I haven't been too anxious about it. I've been doing a Gen3 3SGTE engine build over the past month and I'm still in the process of installing it in my brother's mr2.

In the realm or RX7 related news, I did get some time to install my new one-of-a-kind (well 2-of-a-kind technically) RedLineGoods passenger side handle leather wrapped made custom for me in Poland. I wrapped installed it on my SakeBombGarage aluminum passenger handle. It's an awesome feel and it's going to match all the rest of my redlinegoods swag!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/handle2.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/handle1.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/handle3.jpg)

The handle on the left is actually a stock handle proto-wrapped by redlinegoods. The handle on the right is my aluminum handle wrapped by myself. The wraps should be available on redlinegood's website for about $53 shipped or less soon I think (hopefully less).

In the meantime... Does anyone want to buy the wrapped stock handle on the left? Maybe $80 shipped?

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on February 13, 2012, 01:34:56 PM
Everytime you update your post, I'm sure people get this little voice saying.  "I wonder what Lane cooked up this time?" 

The handles look hot!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 13, 2012, 02:41:50 PM
I don't know about all that but thanks Bryan!  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: V8-rx7 on February 13, 2012, 05:32:46 PM
I'll take the wrapped handle to put on my aluminum one.

Sending you a pm now
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 13, 2012, 06:28:53 PM
Handle = Sold!

Thanks

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: perf0rmance on March 28, 2012, 01:34:34 AM
by me asking for an update should subscribe me to this dope build. It should have been about a month now so your paint should have some news
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 28, 2012, 03:28:01 PM
This project isn't completely dead... I've had a lot going on. I got engaged right after Christmas, so I've been busy with prepping/paying for that. Thankfully its a pretty simple deal since we're doing a weddingmoon in Jamaica at  Sandals resort with only our parents attending. I just have to pay for it :P

After Christmas I also pulled the engine out of my brothers mr2, rebuilt a gen3 3SGTE, then installed the gen3 back in my bro's 2. It was an involved build, which I did all by myself and I took my time like I'm taking my time with this build :D I just finished the mr2 build 3 weeks ago. Since then I've closed on a new house, painted every room in it (2000 sq feet) and moved all of my fiance's stuff in. So.. Yeah, I haven't really been pressuring or even checking in on the paint guys much because I haven't had the time or money to get started again.

As for the RX7, I checked in on it in the middle of February since my painter said he'd like to let the paint cure over January in hopes that the defect removal would have a higher chance of success. When I checked in, he agreed it was time to get started. After two weeks I stopped by again to find that he was sanding the hatch's clear coat because he now strongly suspected the defect was in the clear coat. Another week and he had clear coated the hatch again. When I came by to inspect it, the defects were very faint but still there and he knew it and wasn't trying to hide the fact. He said he probably didn't cut deep enough into the clear coat, but that he still thinks it's salvageable without having to strip the clear coat. At that point I could tell he had lost just about all his motivation to get the job done and he once again offered to let me take the car home and get it finished up and he would get it finished up when I finished up. That was how things were left up until yesterday when you bumped this thread up from the grave perf0rmance :D

I've been hesitant to take my painter up on his offer to let me finish the car while he takes a break, but seeing that he's burnt out on the project and hasn't been making progress for weeks I decided it was time to get the car back. Perf0rmance's bump made me realize the car's been in the shop for 7 months now. It's time...
Today I went by and told him I'd be coming by tomorrow to pick the car up. He won't accept any form of payment until the car is finished, so I'm just going to get it home and start working on getting my interior put back in.

I expect I'll have the interior and exterior put back together in a month or less. After that I'm not sure what the plan is to get the back 1/2 of the car repainted or recleared. He did finish cutting everything in so he said I could put as much back together on the car as I wanted.

Should have a picture update tomorrow when I pick up the car :D

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ltsr on March 28, 2012, 03:56:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing the updated pics  :drive:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 29, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
It's baaaaack

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/595.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/596.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/597.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/598.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/599.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/600.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/601.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/602.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/603.jpg)

Doesn't look too bad from a distance does it?

Here's a close up on one of the worst problem spots that affect the doors, rear quarter, rear bumper, and hatch.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/604.jpg)

I'll have to live with it until I can get those parts repainted.

Happy its home though. Let the build resume! :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on March 29, 2012, 07:44:21 PM
What the hell is that? I've never seen that before.  It almost seems like they used the edge of the sanding block only in the body glaze/filler.  :scratch:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 29, 2012, 09:14:52 PM
Only God knows. If my painter knows, he's not acting like he does. His best guess was that it was a problem with the paint underneath. Said it contracted or expanded differently than the new paint when they baked it.  Apparently it looks great when it went in to be baked and came out looking like that. He was also throwing around the idea that it's all in the clear coat. Whatever it is scared the motivation to complete the car out of him. My only worry is what's going to happen when I take it back to get finished. Good thing is that I'm not out of any money, so if he doesn't want to finish it, I'll just try somebody else :/

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on March 29, 2012, 09:59:13 PM
That's wild.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on March 29, 2012, 10:05:06 PM
The fact that they're all straight lines would make it seem like maybe the edge of the sanding pad dug in or something and created low spots.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Speedfab on March 29, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
This project isn't completely dead... I've had a lot going on. I got engaged right after Christmas, so I've been busy with prepping/paying for that. Thankfully its a pretty simple deal since we're doing a weddingmoon in Jamaica at  Sandals resort with only our parents attending. I just have to pay for it :P

You got that right...  You'll be paying for that for the rest of your life.  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on March 29, 2012, 10:17:08 PM
I don't think they are sanding lines. If they were, you would see more intersecting lines. Most of those lines don't appear to even touch, except for the one that forms a Mercedes emblem (3 lines with a central starting point).

It reminds me a lot of a thin layer of ice that has been fractured by the wake of a passing barge. That makes me think that the paint shrunk more than the clear during the baking process. Can you feel these lines by hand? Do they create peaks or valleys?

I'm interested to see what the painter finds.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 30, 2012, 03:29:50 PM
I don't think they are sanding lines. If they were, you would see more intersecting lines. Most of those lines don't appear to even touch, except for the one that forms a Mercedes emblem (3 lines with a central starting point).

It reminds me a lot of a thin layer of ice that has been fractured by the wake of a passing barge. That makes me think that the paint shrunk more than the clear during the baking process. Can you feel these lines by hand? Do they create peaks or valleys?

I'm interested to see what the painter finds.

I keep forgetting to feel the panels with my fingers/fingernails. Ever since I parked it in my garage I've been working on it, but I've stayed about 3ft away from every painted panel for fear of scratching something :D The painter always said it wasn't something you could feel. I'm curious, but busy. I'll get to it ASAP.


This project isn't completely dead... I've had a lot going on. I got engaged right after Christmas, so I've been busy with prepping/paying for that. Thankfully its a pretty simple deal since we're doing a weddingmoon in Jamaica at  Sandals resort with only our parents attending. I just have to pay for it :P

You got that right...  You'll be paying for that for the rest of your life.  :D

That's what everybody tells me. I guess it's just one of those lessons you have to learn yourself :P

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: project dc2 on March 30, 2012, 04:12:40 PM
is it solvent paint ? if so back in the day if they didnt catalyze dark colors or black  you'd get that in the paint after it cured and when it became very humid and hot
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 30, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
is it solvent paint ? if so back in the day if they didnt catalyze dark colors or black  you'd get that in the paint after it cured and when it became very humid and hot

I don't know. Since I'm in Mississippi I'm not sure if they require that everybody stop using solvent based stuff. I'll have to ask when I take it back.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: perf0rmance on March 31, 2012, 03:44:18 PM
glad to see it back :D

ah, 3sgte.... that reminds me of my first car.... a white 94 mr2


yeah, your paint looks crazy. I believe what your painter said about the paint underneath contracting/expanding differently from the paint on top. It looks like what a dinner plate would look like if you dropped it and it cracked.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 03, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/605.jpg)

Getting some parts together to send out to 65imp for powdercoating  :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on April 03, 2012, 01:02:05 PM
What color you doing?

I'm digging the door handles and wipers.  My wipers especially aren't too nice to look at.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 03, 2012, 01:13:38 PM
Thanks Daniel

It's all going to be low gloss black. Here's a list of parts with their gloss requirements:

20% Gloss
Door Handles
Door Handle Bezels
Windshield Wipers

5% Gloss
Surge Tank
Intake Pipe
Coil Covers
Radiator Cover
Radiator Cover tabs (2)
Fuse Box Bracket
Fuse Box Bracket Support Rod (center of picture).

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 16, 2012, 02:18:36 PM
Made a little progress this weekend.

First I took out my dash to deal with my 'leaky' heater core. Took it apart and checked to make sure it was really the problem.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/606.jpg)

If this b!tch was going back in my car she'd have to hold it together underwater.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/607.jpg)

Turns out she could. Held ~ 45psi for over 3 hrs while I worked on other things. I pumped it up, sealed it, then put it underwater the whole time with an in-line modified compression gauge (removed schrader valve) to monitor it. I guess my leaks must have come from around the inlet and outlet pipes. Doh!

I also returned my optima battery this weekend. After spending 7 months in the shop, and deep cycling despite me telling the guys to keep it on its trickle charger, I couldn't get it to hold charge even with the parallel charger + good battery trick. Thankfully I bought it locally and O'Reillys didn't give me any trouble.

While I had my battery out I decided to go ahead any install the mil spec bulkhead connector I'd bought to make my wideband sensor install / uninstall easier for open air calibrations:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/609.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/608.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/610.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/612.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/611.jpg)

I also went ahead and coated the top of my battery holder with Plasti Dip because I just about sh!t a brick every time I work around it because I'm afraid the terminal clamps may accidentally touch the plate and short out. The plasti dip is rougher than I'd like, but it's a good insulator and supposedly it peels off if I end up not liking it:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/619.jpg)

Also started installing my AAC aftermarket carpet. It's been in my attic for over a year but it still makes my car smell brand new + It's SOFT! I can't tell you how many cuts and deep punctures I've got from working inside the freakin cage of a cabin with so much exposed / sharp metal edges. I'm so glad to have a little padding again :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/615.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/614.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/613.jpg)

This was my method for marking my holes to be cut with chalk:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/616.jpg)

Here's the install at ~ 80 % complete. I'd cut all the holes at this point and was installing padding. I still haven't trimmed the perimeter though:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/617.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/618.jpg)

Sorry. I didn't get any more shots, but they'll be coming when I finish.

After I got the carpet mostly in I started second guessing some of my electronics since getting the carpet in makes changes significantly harder, so I started verifying my alarm setup. Up till this point I haven't worked on my door locks because my doors have been disconnected. Well I got them hooked up and was astonished to find that the stock door lock system only used a solenoid in the passenger side door :( I even missed it with the diagram shouting in my face the whole time. Oh well, I've got a solenoid on order and I'll get it fixed up, but it's a pita to have to work on the alarm wiring at this stage.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rajeevx7 on April 16, 2012, 10:18:31 PM
You will need one actuator to hook up to the driver's side door. In the upper left corner of the door you can splice into 12v constant. Then it needs two wires run through the harness and door plug to the brain.
 
Check this.. http://www.caraudio-caralarms.com/dei-528t.html (http://www.caraudio-caralarms.com/dei-528t.html) . Buy one asap. I am using it to turn on my parking lamps when I disarm the car. Too cool and brings the FD a bit closer to current standard equipment. It's been awhile (since the last time you helped me with wiring) but I think I also used this circuit to time my dome light.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 16, 2012, 10:49:23 PM
Right. When I said solenoid, I meant actuator.

That's a pretty cool add on module, although I think I'll be happy if I can just get my door locks working and I'll leave all the fancies to my bmw :D

I've got an actuator and a pulse generator on the way to me:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009SWLE6/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_dp_2 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009SWLE6/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_dp_2)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009SUEW2/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_dp_1 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009SUEW2/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_dp_1)

I'm hoping to install it like this:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/620.jpg)
or this
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/621.jpg)

I actually prefer the second method better as I've seen a better install pic in that location (just can't seem to find it) and I think they'll be more room there. I've ordered a set of speaker adapters that I hope will give me even more clearance:

http://car-speaker-adapters.com/items.php?id=SAK068 (http://car-speaker-adapters.com/items.php?id=SAK068)

I should be able to re-purpose existing wiring to wire the actuator. Specifically, the Bose speaker's shield and power wires :D

The pulse generator isn't very well documented, but I'm hoping it can take a two wire switched input and change it to lock / unlock pulses.  The reason I need it is because the stock driver's switch is a hard switch that provides a ground to the lock wire and an open to the unlock wire when locked, and an open to the lock wire and ground to the unlock wire when unlocked. The stock system works with hard switches to ground and seems to work ok with pulses from my alarm (for the passenger door). The problem is that when the switch is in either position it hold ground on that position. I.E., when it's in the lock position, the lock wire is stuck at ground. So when I hit lock on my alarm, and it sends a grd pulse it does nothing and the door lock controller doesn't even try to switch states because the lock wire is already ground. I'm hoping that the pulse generator can make it so I can make a network to the lock controller where either the alarm or the switch can send lock and unlock signals without bothering each other. If I can't get the stock lock controller to play nice I'll just use two relays:

http://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#arp (http://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#arp)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rajeevx7 on April 18, 2012, 10:41:47 PM
Two relays is what I am using and everything works. The short pulse from my alarm brain is not nearly long enough to trigger the factory switch.
 
Can't say enough about that Dei pulse timer though. Really cool gadget for very little extra work and money! That second pic seems impossible with my Bose boxes. The window switch and mirror switch dip right into that area.
 
Good luck, car looks great :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 20, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
Installed my MGW Shifter Thermal Shifter Panel by mattster03 this morning in-between wiring for my driver's side actuator.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/620-1.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/621-1.jpg)

Looks good. I'm happy :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2012, 12:12:29 PM
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/f69e329c.jpg)

Whatwhat?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rajeevx7 on May 06, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Very cool. I would LOVE to create my own ac lines and avoid the $400 fee the ready made kit goes for.
Besides having all the hardware installed without piping connecting them, is this everything you need? Which connector takes the place of the compressor manifold...or do they couple onto those lines?
 
THANKS  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: osburn383 on May 07, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
Nice build.

I was just about to try and tackle my own ac in the coming weeks.
Getting way to hot for a black car.

Where did you source your parts?
I was looking into docs at the moment.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 07, 2012, 04:55:58 PM
Thanks for the complements guys.

I'm sure a lot of your questions will be answered when I post pics of the completed lines.

As far as posting source info, I'm on the fence with that. I've invested a lot of time and therefore money in putting this list of parts together and negotiating the fabrication of one custom fitting. I'm totally an open-source full disclosure kinda guy, but I'm considering manufacturing lines that include a dryer, and maybe GM pressure switch for ~ $350 which would undercut most options out there by $100.

I'll keep y'all posted.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: r71 on May 24, 2012, 04:05:31 AM
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/f69e329c.jpg)

Whatwhat?

Please do a detailed write up on this.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: r71 on May 24, 2012, 04:07:53 AM
Sold!

Thanks for the complements guys.

I'm sure a lot of your questions will be answered when I post pics of the completed lines.

As far as posting source info, I'm on the fence with that. I've invested a lot of time and therefore money in putting this list of parts together and negotiating the fabrication of one custom fitting. I'm totally an open-source full disclosure kinda guy, but I'm considering manufacturing lines that include a dryer, and maybe GM pressure switch for ~ $350 which would undercut most options out there by $100.

I'll keep y'all posted.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 24, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Alright kids. Since it was requested, here's how I did my driver's side actuator:

Here are the parts and quantities you will need:

(2) - http://www.amazon.com/Absolute-SRS105-5-Pin-Socket-Interlocking/dp/B005EUWMU2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337888729&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Absolute-SRS105-5-Pin-Socket-Interlocking/dp/B005EUWMU2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337888729&sr=1-1)
(2) - http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/1432791-1/?qs=R6sPIhOkp6of%252bP3hbc%252bwGA%3d%3d (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/1432791-1/?qs=R6sPIhOkp6of%252bP3hbc%252bwGA%3d%3d)
(1) - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009SWLE6/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_dp_2 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009SWLE6/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_dp_2)
(1 - Set) - http://car-speaker-adapters.com/items.php?id=SAK068 (http://car-speaker-adapters.com/items.php?id=SAK068)
(1) - Alarm of your choice as long as it supports lock/unlock with negative pulses


Wiring next :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/drivers_actuator_diag1.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/drivers_actuator_diag2.jpg)

On the factory diagram, all you are really working with is two connectors. K2-01 which is in the drivers side kick panel and plugs into the factory lock controller (which is green) and J4-08 which is a connector on the upper left hand side of the driver's door circled in red below:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/631.jpg)

The green circle shows where the wiring starts which leads to my new actuator in the door. I just depinned the green/yellow and green/red wires from J4-08 and ran them to the new actuator. One thing I didn't keep track of is the polarity of the green/red and green/yellow wires in respect with the new actuators. If you finish and your driver's side locks when your passenger side unlocks, you'll simply have to switch the wires of the actuator.

Alright, that handles the wiring through the door using existing wiring and not having to deal with the f&#$n stupid X-20 connector. Now comes the fun part.

Go ahead and chop off the connector of K2-01 and throw away the OEM green lock controller. Connect the Green/Red wire to the Orange wire wire and connect both to the unlock relay output shown in blue at the bottom of the second diagram. Likewise, connect the Green/Yellow wire to the Green wire and hook it to the lock relay output shown in purple at the bottom of the second diagram. This basically ties the existing actuator and new actuators together and hands their control over to the new relay system. Connect the 12v wires in the relay diagram to the Blue wire from K2-01. Connect the GND wires from the relay diagram to the Black wire from K2-01. Now all that's left is to connect your lock and unlock wires from your alarm system to the lock and unlock inputs on the relay diagram. When you're done you should have used all the wires that ran to K2-01.

The pros of wiring it this way is that you get rid of the old lock controller and replace it with brand new relays. You also don't have to do any wiring through the door connector. The cons of wiring it this way is that you lose the passenger side mimmic of the driver's side lock / unlock latch. I.E., if you lock your driver's door manually with the latch, the passenger side lock will not actuate to lock like it used to with the OEM system.

Alright, now on to more install pics:

Here's how I mounted the actuator:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/628.jpg)

The green circle shows a good reference point for mounting the actuator. Its basically a level change in the new speaker panels. Just butt the actuator up against that and you should be golden. The actual mounting the actuator was acomplished by a nutsert in the door skin, and a bolt + nut that went throught the speaker panel.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/630.jpg)

Here's a view from above. You want to keep the actuator arm as close as possible to the door skin so it doesn't interfere with the window switch that will occupy a lot of this space later on.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/629.jpg)

Here's a view of how I connected the actuator rod to the latch assembly. All of this hardware comes with the actuator. When installing, you'll want to manually move the actuator in and out to make sure the push and pull's throw is correct for actuating the latch. If you do it wrong, you'll end up putting pressure on a lot of parts and you'll probably break something later on.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/632.jpg)
Finally, this is where I mounted my new relays.

System works VERY well. I'm happy now  :yay:

Lane




 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 24, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Please do a detailed write up on this.

After some thought I have decided to post a parts list (~$150 total) + suppliers and a writeup which should be online after another week. However, I will insist that my instructions / parts not be used for profit. If I see someone start an A/C line business on here that uses my parts list I'm not going to be happy ;)

I decided against stealing business away from the existing venders primarily because Pez/Greg has helped me free of charge over the whole 2 years of my build and I don't want to do anything that would hurt his business. On the other hand, Greg has always seemed to be very open with the details of his work and I know a lot of his diagrams are floating around this forum. Because of this I think offering people a DIY option isn't going to really affect his margin since there will always be people whoes time and patience is worth more than paying $450 for a drop in AC line solution.

Look out for more pics and instructions soon.

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on May 24, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
Very nice, which alarm did you get?  :P
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 24, 2012, 05:15:57 PM
Very nice, which alarm did you get?  :P

Viper 5901 althought I can't completely recommend it. Its hood switch pin was garbage at the actual brain. It had two settings. #1 = Normally Open or 12v. #2 = Normally closed = Gnd. #1 is supposed to alarm as soon as it sees GND. #2 is supposed to alarm when it sees Open or 12v. The stock hood switch shows GND when the hood is closed and Open when the hood is open. You would think it would work with option #2 would work, but it didn't. Switching the polarity of the stock hood switch to 12v to make it work with option #1 didn't work either. Turns out my brain had a problem sensing an "Open" position which screwed with options #1 and #2. It didn't even have to be plugged to a sensor for the alarm to think the hood was Open using option #2 while the hood was CLOSED. It was a clusterfu#k to say the least. I tried different things all day after I figured out what the issue was. I ended up designing a circuit for the stock hood sensor that provided 12v (using a weak pullup resistor) when the hood was closed and GND when the hood was open and used the alarm's option #1. Works great but it was a MAJOR PITA and it was a serious modivation drain. This part that really sucks is that the trunk sensor pin is made the SAME way and it worked the way it was supposed to.
One last thing is that I thought the 5901's installation manual was crap at best. It doesn't do a good job of explaining anything and leaves out some pretty critical information about how to use the starter kill when you AREN'T using the auto-start feature.

Sorry for the rants. I've invested probably 6x more time that I should have needed to to get this alarm installed perfectly. Still, they say a car alarm is only as good as its install, and mine is pretty fantastic if I do say so myself :D

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 24, 2012, 06:45:36 PM
PS - Also, the Viper 5901 has the antenna, status LED, and valet switch integrated into one bulky pos. Getting the stock alarm indicator working instead of the integrated one was... challenging

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 18, 2012, 10:12:50 AM
Well this weekend was a rush. I just turned 30, and I've officially had this project car since I was 27 so some anxiety set in. Also, I'm getting married this Friday, so wrapping up the car is really becoming a huge priority now.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/638.jpg)
Trimming up my 93 bumper support for my 99 spec bumper

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/642.jpg)
Support structure transferred, bumper installed, and lip installed

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/641.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/640.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/639.jpg)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/644.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/643.jpg)
Installed all my rear lights. Everything works!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/647.jpg)
Started throwing my trim back in

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/648.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/645.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/646.jpg)
See any Dinoc yet? :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/649.jpg)
Dash still has a ways to go. The green and white wires hanging from the roof are a switched 12v source I'm tucking in with the dome light in case I ever want to run a radar detector :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/650.jpg)
Random shot of my surge tank back from powdercoating (65Imp)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/651.jpg)
Really proud of these. A friend loaned me his beadlock crimper so I was able to get them finished last week. Also sleeved these in DEI Firesleeve.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/654.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/653.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/652.jpg)
Here's a few shots of how I routed things and where I put my dryer. The dryer is something I scoured datasheets for. It has a M10 schrader fitting built in that accommodates the GM pressure sensor so I didn't have to build the fitting into my softlines.  More info on the lines will come soon.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/655.jpg)
And here's where I'm leaving it while I head to Jamaica for my Wedding and Honeymoon.

Lane



Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on June 18, 2012, 01:44:56 PM
If it is too much anxiety, just give me the car.   I won't have any anxiety about that at all.   :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 18, 2012, 01:59:16 PM
Your turbo fabbing skills and the desire to do it for others tempts me Blake :)
Indiana is still in my neighborhood. You may see it down the road :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Pez on June 18, 2012, 02:34:10 PM
Damn it, get that ground strap off the strut tower.  there are plenty of places to put it (maybe not as accessible, lol) that are out of sight.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on June 18, 2012, 02:50:30 PM
If you send me that car, I may not send it back.  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: WannaBeFast on June 18, 2012, 02:55:05 PM
Very nice. The all black is working really well for you.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 18, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
Damn it, get that ground strap off the strut tower.  there are plenty of places to put it (maybe not as accessible, lol) that are out of sight.

Haha! Alright alright. It hasn't bothered me until you brought it up, but it does stick out now that I'm taking a second look at it. Oh well back to the drawing board. I'll have to see if there's anything I can latch on to underneath the car :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: karsty on June 18, 2012, 03:41:42 PM
I'm getting married this Friday, so wrapping up the car is really becoming a huge priority now.

Just don't wrap it up and then go and sell it.  ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on June 18, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
I'll be stealing that black heat sleeve thank you very much.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Cryptic on June 18, 2012, 10:24:42 PM
Sooo clean! I love everything about this build. Nice work as always Lane.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on June 20, 2012, 12:55:16 AM
Looks fantastic!  There's a few threaded bosses on the frame, clean one up and throw that ground down there out of the way :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rajeevx7 on June 20, 2012, 09:42:16 PM
Good fabbing!
 
That circle dot between your fittings on the accumilator should be a piece of tape that was painted over. Under it probably is a window to view any bubbles in your gas.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 06, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
Good fabbing!
 
That circle dot between your fittings on the accumilator should be a piece of tape that was painted over. Under it probably is a window to view any bubbles in your gas.

Great eye! You were right! Once you mentioned it I knew you had to be right because I remember seeing the sight glass in the datasheet. Thanks for the heads up!


Got a little more work done in the engine bay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/656.jpg)
Finally bought a nice little aluminum check valve for the brake booster.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/657.jpg)
Installed with my fabulous worm clamps! Alright!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/658.jpg)
Honeycombed my intake pipe to ease MAF tuning.

I'm actually 99% done with my engine bay. Apart from moving my grounds I really can't think of anything I need to do except charge my AC. I'll post pictures after I move the ground since I don't want to be ridiculed again  :yay:

I've been running the engine again. My fuel pressure has moved around several times in between cranks. Its rock solid when I rev and when it idles, but I'm getting changes in-between cranks. It may have something to do with my working on the engine and/or fuel tank (fuel level gauge calibration), but its something I'm confused about and am monitoring constantly. Overall the car is running very good with the commanded idle at 900rpms. It still stumbles a little coming off of the gas into an idle condition, but the higher idle speed helps things out for the most part. Hopefully I can iron it out when I have time to tune the car.

I've also been throwing in the interior:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/659.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/660.jpg)
Door panels

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/661.jpg)
Center Console wrapped in redline leather

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/662.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/664.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/663.jpg)
Dash

Its coming along nicely. I'm actually planning on driving the car 5 miles to its new home tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully I won't have any issues. It'll be the furthest I've ever driven it :)

Lane


 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 06, 2012, 06:49:36 PM
PS - Unfortunately I don't think my DiNOC wrap is going to hold up for the interior. Just the heat in my garage is messing with the adhesion on some parts, especially convex surfaces :(
I am thinking it will irritate me into trying something else. Until then I'm going to try and enjoy it.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on July 06, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
Love it, love it, love it!  Except for the dinoc not sticking :/
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 06, 2012, 10:03:23 PM
Thanks!

I may be overreacting. So far all the big panels aren't having issues. It's the smaller stuff. The door sills are having issues, but it's probably because I didn't use enough dinoc and the 'tabs' I wrapped around the edges aren't long enough to hold it down so the edges are fraying a little. The worst part so far is the little gas lever cover. It's such a curvy piece and the dinoc is wanting to return to it's natural state (flat) which has made it pull away on the hardest bend and make a bridge / bubble. Not too terrible, but if its a sign of things to come I'm going to have to start researching how to properly spray plastic and get some type of coating I'll be happy with.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Cryptic on July 07, 2012, 12:29:56 AM
Where did you get that nice aluminum check valve for the brake booster? My dumb ass didn't use one and BOY does the pedal get soft!

Also what size is your fuel line/filter?  Is that -8AN?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 07, 2012, 01:57:43 AM
Haha! Yeah, I'm hoping the check valve remedies that problem. I got it off eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270812025164 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270812025164)

My post pump in-line filter (pictured) is -8AN. My pre-pump filter (mounted near my tank) is also -8AN. It's -8AN from the tank to the regulator then I scale down to -6AN to mate to the stock fuel rail. The pre pump filter is course. The post pump filter is fine. I don't remember what the filter grades are for each though.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: pakmanlsx on July 08, 2012, 01:09:13 PM
Did you use the primer94 from 3M, the adhesion promoter, on the pieces before wrapping them?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 08, 2012, 05:04:26 PM
Did you use the primer94 from 3M, the adhesion promoter, on the pieces before wrapping them?

I've got a quart of primer94 that I used off and on. I found it hard to use when working on such curvy parts and didn't seem to really make a huge difference. I used it of my gauge cluster and now that its been exposed to triple digit heat its peeling up around the dummy light screens. Nothing huge, but it definitely isn't going to make or break dinoc adhesion.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: pakmanlsx on July 08, 2012, 11:44:11 PM
Good to know thanks Lane.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: WannaBeFast on July 09, 2012, 12:30:08 AM
DAANG FDs got such nice interiors.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 09, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
Thanks guys. Yes, I'm very happy with how the interior is coming together in the looks department, but it is painfully fragile. I didn't notice until after I'd wrapped the pieces but the climate control panel and the driver's door panel have quite of few of the plastic 'pillars,' that the interior screws screw into, that have broken off. Both panels still feel secure, but it makes me very cautious around the interior plastics for fear of breaking more :(

I took the car for a 5 mile drive this weekend and it performed very well. Cruising was very responsive. The insta-torque put a huge smile on my face the whole way. Coming to a stop / idling was a little rustier than I'd like. I had the car stall several times when I lifted to stop so the check valve I installed a few posts up really saved my ass. I was pleasantly surprised that my tires didn't rub at all which is interesting to me since my tire/wheel/suspension setup is somewhat aggressive. The car is definitely in need of a good alignment though. A/F readings were pretty bouncy and high, but I haven't calibrated my wideband controller to free air yet, so I took it with a big grain of salt. Coolant, oil pressure, speedo, rpm, fuel level, intake temp, A/F, and voltage gauges appeared to be working properly. The only gauge that's giving me trouble is my fuel pressure gauge and it's always when I start my car. It's like it gets its baseline reading wrong or something because I've seen anywhere from 55 - 70 psi at start. After the car has started the fuel pressure is rock solid, but sticks at the fuel pressure it read when the car starts. I really don't think regulator is to blame because the car doesn't seem to be too unhappy about the pressure swings. I highly suspect the gauge or the pressure sender is to blame. I just ordered a 1/8" NPT tee to get a mechanical fuel pressure gauge involved on the fuel rail so I'll have another reading to reference which will hopefully help me narrow down the problem.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 16, 2012, 03:13:57 PM
Here's a look at my completed engine bay with relocated grounds:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/665.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/666.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/667.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/668.jpg)

I got my AC, fender liners, and grounds installed so I'm calling it complete. Headlights don't count ;)

As shown in the pictures above I recently added a mechanical fuel pressure gauge to the end of my stock rail. It looks kind of hokey but I had to angle it the way it is for hood clearance. I have done minimal testing, but it looks like my speedhut gauge is off. The mechanical gauge is much more stable, and doesn't shift every time I start my car. At the moment I am trusting the mechanical gauge. After I do more testing and prove the speedhut gauge is to blame I'm going to try and get speedhut to send me another pressure sensor.

Here are some pics of how I routed my grounds:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/669.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/670.jpg)

The block ends of the grounds attach to the 4th unused boss for the engine mount pedestals.

As I mentioned I finished installing my AC this weekend. MY RX7 HAS AC!!!! Whoohooo!

Consequently I have put up a full DIY for how to build AC lines for the FD:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12654.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12654.0)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 16, 2012, 05:46:34 PM
PS

I'm sorry but anyone who is selling a car without AC and says "but it's easy to add" doesn't know what they're talking about or is lying through their teeth ;)
Maybe my experiance was unusual or maybe I just have large hands  :yay:, but just getting the lines in was a chore not to mention adding the evaporator (especially if you have your bumper already installed) and removing and/or installing your compressor for oiling (assuming you're starting from scratch). Then there's the electrical headaches :P

Just say'n.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Philithy on July 19, 2012, 04:32:40 AM
I just spent about 3 hrs reading this whole thread from start to finish, I'm at a loss for words in how well you documented this along with the patience and effort. SICK!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 23, 2012, 12:02:53 PM
Thanks Philithy! Always nice to have people say my thread is intertaining enough to make it all the way through in one sitting  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Dbz33 on August 01, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
I just spent about 3 hrs reading this whole thread from start to finish, I'm at a loss for words in how well you documented this along with the patience and effort. SICK!!!

Same here. Just finished it. Amazing job.
Title: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: icey? on August 01, 2012, 12:47:00 AM
Nice build.

Where in MS you from. I'm in Biloxi.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 01, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
Thanks guys. I'm in north Mississippi. Starkville to be precise  :drive:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: NismoGuy on August 09, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
What an amazing and inspiring build. I literally just read the whole thing from start to finish. I really like your gauge light setup and wish I had the skills to do that. I would actually pay someone to do that to my gauges. Thread has been added to my favorites.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 10, 2012, 09:13:15 AM
What an amazing and inspiring build. I literally just read the whole thing from start to finish. I really like your gauge light setup and wish I had the skills to do that. I would actually pay someone to do that to my gauges. Thread has been added to my favorites.

Thanks! We actually have a forum vender that is putting together a service to do it for people. It's not exactly how I do it in this thread, but the result is pretty much the same. Check it out:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12610.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12610.0)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on August 10, 2012, 01:38:02 PM
What an amazing and inspiring build. I literally just read the whole thing from start to finish. I really like your gauge light setup and wish I had the skills to do that. I would actually pay someone to do that to my gauges. Thread has been added to my favorites.

Thanks! We actually have a forum vender that is putting together a service to do it for people. It's not exactly how I do it in this thread, but the result is pretty much the same. Check it out:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12610.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12610.0)

Lane

I was like, hey, someone else is doing Speedhut clusters?!

Then I was like,  :yay:

Thanks Lane.  So this thing is 'done'?  Runs good, looks good, and has functional A/C?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 10, 2012, 02:56:41 PM
What an amazing and inspiring build. I literally just read the whole thing from start to finish. I really like your gauge light setup and wish I had the skills to do that. I would actually pay someone to do that to my gauges. Thread has been added to my favorites.

Thanks! We actually have a forum vender that is putting together a service to do it for people. It's not exactly how I do it in this thread, but the result is pretty much the same. Check it out:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12610.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12610.0)

Lane

I was like, hey, someone else is doing Speedhut clusters?!

Then I was like,  :yay:

Thanks Lane.  So this thing is 'done'?  Runs good, looks good, and has functional A/C?


Haha! Nah, I'm sending anyone that asks me about the conversion your way these days. In fact, I'll change the link in my sig to point to your thread.

'Done' is such perminent word. It's very close, but not done. Off the top of my head these are the things I have left to do:

Install and aim HID headlights (HID projector headlights are built, wiring is complete, and popup assemblies are installed; I just have to install and aim).
Remove speedhut fuel pressure sensor and gauge to send back to Speedhut for repairs (I've completed the initial support diagnostics).
Run new RCA line from the headunit location to the rear amp location (I cut accidentally cut through the one I already had installed during the carpet installation)
Install door handles
Finalize install of center console
Install new mint ebrake handle
Install redline goods shifter and ebrake boot
POR15 seat rail sliders and glove compartment catch
Finalize seat-belt install and install seat belt buckles.
Diagnose why my windhield wiper motor isn't actuating (electrical)
Forever Black my windhield wiper cowl
Either figure out how to get the springs reinstalled in my powdercoated wipers or buy new ones :(

Work out insurance for a month or so

Drive the car for a few weeks and street tune  :yay:

Remove door beltline mouldings and above door mouldings so my painter can cut in that area properly.
Remove sunroof moulding
Remove rear lights
Remove rear bumper

Return car to painter to get the paint redone

Reassemble the parts I took off before paint
Have exhaust welded to fit my car
Tune on a load bearing dyno
Profit?
Drive

So. It's very close, but not quite there. Now that I'm married, It's harder than ever to get large chunks of time to work on any one thing, so I usually have to do it in 1 hr chunks, which as any of you know, is almost worthless on a project like this. Ah well. It'll happen one day :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: andanotherone on August 14, 2012, 08:07:35 PM
I just found the forums today and I have to say to all of the automotive forums I belong to, this one has the most attention to detail in its builds. You got a heck of a project here Lane and I'm looking forward to seeing it completed. Great job.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 15, 2012, 06:09:28 PM
I just found the forums today and I have to say to all of the automotive forums I belong to, this one has the most attention to detail in its builds. You got a heck of a project here Lane and I'm looking forward to seeing it completed. Great job.
 :cheers:

Thank you and welcome to the forum :)


This thread is starting to look pretty scarce in the pic department. How bout a couple pics? :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/671.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/672.jpg)

Finally finished my door handle assembles. These pics are actually deceivingly simple so I'll have to brag on what's been done.
#1 Powdercoated the handle's bezel with 20% gloss black (65Imp)
#2 Painstakingly powdercoated the pitted aluminum handles (cast) that originally came from www.rx7doorhandles.com/ (http://www.rx7doorhandles.com/) (also 65Imp)
#3 Rekeyed the passenger side lock cylinder (not sure why it didn't work with my key)
#4 Purchased and installed new lock cylinder retention rings
#5 Installed new weatherstrips from mcmastercarr
#6 Forever blacked the little grommets that fit in front of the lock cylinders

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on August 16, 2012, 03:15:11 PM
What weather stripping did you use from McMaster?

This? http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-foam-tape/=ivl4fa (http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-foam-tape/=ivl4fa)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 16, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
What weather stripping did you use from McMaster?

This? http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-foam-tape/=ivl4fa (http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-foam-tape/=ivl4fa)

Nope.

8694K132 - Weather-and-Fire-Retardant Foam, Adhesive-Back, 1/4"  Thick, 3/8" W, 50' L

It's the exact dimensions of the OEM stuff + it has adhesive that is a lot tackier than most foam tape I've come across.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: TurboGabe on September 07, 2012, 06:24:31 PM
Dopest dope I ever smoked, bro.  Awesome build, can wait for updates.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Powerlover on October 22, 2012, 09:24:19 PM
It seems we are somewhat neighbors....I find myself in Starkville several times a year.  I'd love to see this thing!!!  Let me know if you need help in the paint department.  I've been painting for over 15 years.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 22, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
It seems we are somewhat neighbors....I find myself in Starkville several times a year.  I'd love to see this thing!!!  Let me know if you need help in the paint department.  I've been painting for over 15 years.

Cool! Its always nice to meet a local, especially since it's rare in the south east  :cheers:
I'll definitely keep your name around concerning paint. I've promised the paint shop that worked with me earlier this year a chance to fix the problem, but if they tell me to take a hike I'll be on the lookout for another painter.

Your post pulled my thread back from the dead. Guess it deserves a little update :)

How bout a few random pics to describe what's been going on?

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/674.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/675.jpg)

A few weeks ago I completed the install of my racelogic traction control after a week of diagnosing problems with it. I had a three stage problem with mine. First I had a tiny block of broken glass from a window in the bottom of the main unit's connector which of course caused some connector opens and I didn't notice until I finally started taking things apart (oh, side thought, but I'm pretty sure the glass came from my rear hatch. I believe the paint shop I had working for my broke my hatch glass and replaced it without telling me. They did a pretty good job hiding the fact, but I've got pieces of glass rattling in my hatch, some glass around my spare, and the glass in the connector. The smoking gun is that I lizard skinned the whole car, so I had the interior stripped to the sheet metal and there was NO glass rattling around before I took it to them). Ok, back to business. Second, when racelogic says the unit needs a 12v switched supply that DOESN'T drop out during cranking, THEY MEAN IT! lol!  Finally, the nice little LCD controller for the TC unit IS NOT plug and play with the racelogic wiring for the simple controller. The LCD controller requires 12v instead of the TC Unit's supplied 5v. This is mentioned somewhat as an afterthought halfway through the god awful manual. Oh well. The unit is now installed, calibrated, tested, and working 100%. I'm very impressed with it so far. Oh, the panel I mounted the LCD controller to (double sided tape) is a nissan part = 6847060M00. The surface mount LED is for calibration purposes and was something I bought off of mouser.com


(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/676-1.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/678.jpg)

Here's a fun little gizmo I installed that might come in handy for people with aftermarket carpets like me. It's a GM part and only requires making two small cuts in your carpet to install. The end result is a floor mat that doesn't ride up into the pedals :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/679.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/680.jpg)

Speaking of pedals. Here's a couple shots of my kick panels. It's one of the upsides of wiring the whole car myself.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/681.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/682.jpg)

Almost completely done in the cabin. The hatch area still has a ways to go but isn't too bad

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/683.jpg)

Here's my wiper cowl that I refinished with forever black.  This stuff is AMAZING. The cowl looks brand new now. It was basically white before due to sun burn.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/684.jpg)

Quick shot of my aiming my DIY projector HID converted headlights

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/685.jpg)

Here's where I left my AC for the season. For some reason my low side is higher than it should be and my high side is too low. This trend continues as I add more freon. My low side will get up to 60 psi when the high side gets to 150 psi. The compressor cycles on correctly, but the cooling capacity sucks to say the least. Not really sure where the problem is, but for now it's a non issue and I'll probably fix it next spring.


I've been dealing with some fuel pressure issues that I've been documenting in this thread:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=13521.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=13521.0)

Here are a few extra pics:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/686.jpg)
Rebuilt a -6AN return hose to relocated the return to the top of the fuel tank.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/687.jpg)
Added a little bit more heat shielding to my fuel and brake lines by the driver's side header since that area gets hot enough to melt the stock underbody line shield.

What I haven't updated in the thread is the forum member Demon graciously loaned me one of his spare 044 pumps to help me rule mine out as a problem:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/689.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/690.jpg)

After some testing I found that his pump behaved exactly like my pump so I successfully ruled my pump out as causing the problem. I'm guess it could be a regulator problem, but the pressure variation is so small I'm thinking I can probably tune around it.  That brings me to another small update and issue.
I've been brushing up on my tuning and took a shot at tuning my MAF last weekend. Unfortunately during my tuning session my Innovate LC-1 is finally started showing its true colors (shit brown). What it started doing is hanging up at > 18 A/F reading during its initial key on calibration, so the lambda error was always reading at ~ 1.42 causing my whole tune to be worthless. I've seen it do this multiple times when driving, so I'm looking to replace it with a AEM unit soon.

Finally, that brings me to the final nugget of my update. Unfortunately it's not good news:

http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/node/11673 (http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/node/11673)

The start up company I've worked for, for 6 years went belly up last week and I lost my job along with 90 other people last Friday. I lost about 160 hours of vacation and only got a week's severance so that sucks pretty bad. It was pretty sudden so I didn't have a very good backup plan. Right now I'm looking around locally for another job, but that's a tall order in my area of the country, especially when the small market just got flooded with 20 other experienced engineers :( 
Luckily, my wife is a sugar mamma (doctor of physical therapy and makes decent money) so with careful budgeting I should still be able to keep the RX7. I would hate to start parting it out, but it is just a material possession, so if I have to I have to... Hopefully I can find a job before it comes to that though. If anyone knows of a job for an electrical engineer around Starkville, MS give me a shout! :D

Oh yeah, one more pic I found  :drive:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/688.jpg)


Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on October 22, 2012, 11:39:33 PM
Looks good, I like the molex connectors on the Racelogic LCD, haha.

Sorry to hear about the job.  :(
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: funnyscreenname on October 23, 2012, 12:48:29 AM
man that's coming along nicely. sorry to hear about your job. you seem to have a positive attitude about it tho so i'm sure everything will work out for you. remember, everything happens for a reason.
 
did you check out cruisin the coast? was hoping to see a few rx7's while i was out. only saw one from nola tho. i could tell it had a v8 and some other mods, many aesthetic. didn't see the owner tho so i couldn't really get much info.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on October 23, 2012, 01:13:44 AM
Looks good, I like the molex connectors on the Racelogic LCD, haha.

Sorry to hear about the job.  :(

HATE the molex connector on the Racelogic.

Also, could have def helped you out on the wiring, I try and make sure all of our customers know what they need to do lol.

REALLY sucks to hear about the job.  I'd hire you for peanuts if you want to move to sunny Socal :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 23, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
lol! I knew I was going to catch hell over that damn molex connector. It was a moment of weakness on my part in the form of patience which I'm happy to say hasn't happened very often during my build. All it is, is a break in the TX/RX/GND connection to enable calibration. I replaced that stupid DB-9 serial connector in racelogic's wiring with the 4 pin molex connector. I didn't have a 3 pin MP/GT connector on the shelf so I went with something I did have so I wouldn't have to wait ~3 days to get the correct connector from mouser :) The oddball wire hanging off to the right is simply the wiring for the LED which I added later.

funnyscreenname: Unfortunately I did not. The rx7 is ok for around time, but it's got to get some tuning under its belt before I take it on a trip. I will definitely look out for events like that in the future though  :cheers:

Thank you for your condolences guys. I'm pretty upbeat. I have enough work and projects around the house to easily fill 2 weeks, so in-between that and looking for a job I should be able to stay away from stagnation / depression  :bacon:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on October 23, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
Eh, I don't see the issue with the molex.   As long as you are't exceeding the voltage rating they're pretty reasonable connectors.   Shoot, I have molex connectors all over in servers that cost more than an F1 car, and they have a TON of vibration.   If that is the major concern, do what the server guys do and put a dot of hot glue on the connection to keep it secure.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 23, 2012, 09:31:40 AM
Eh, I don't see the issue with the molex.   As long as you are't exceeding the voltage rating they're pretty reasonable connectors.   Shoot, I have molex connectors all over in servers that cost more than an F1 car, and they have a TON of vibration.   If that is the major concern, do what the server guys do and put a dot of hot glue on the connection to keep it secure.

Truth! Like I said it's only low voltage/current RX/TX connections. There's also room to safety wire the connector a la zip tie because I'm only using 3 of the 4 pins in the connector  :yay:

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Shavel on October 23, 2012, 09:44:03 AM
You would have your pick of jobs if you wanted to come to Dallas.  But it sounds like you're going to be ok.  Great progress on the car! 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on October 23, 2012, 10:42:10 AM
Good progress Lane. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on October 23, 2012, 01:09:24 PM
You have the cleanest interior I have ever seen  :o
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Powerlover on October 23, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
I bet I coil get you on at Severstal!!!  Ready to sweat?  I keed. I keed...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 08, 2012, 02:27:07 PM
I'm just going to leave this here and figure out what I should really do with it later:  :D

http://www.ls1fc.com/pdfs/Halfspec_FSM.pdf (http://www.ls1fc.com/pdfs/Halfspec_FSM.pdf)

The link above is for a PDF that documents all of the wiring in my car, graciously hosted by Blake & Norotors. I've always documented my work, but getting it formalized isn't something I've had the time for until now as I'd estimate all the original documentation + formalizing it has cost me ~60 hours. My car isn't what I would consider 100% running yet since I'm still working through some fuel pressure issues, but from what I can tell, my electrical system is solid so I feel confident in releasing the details to the public eye. It's based on the FSM, but really starts to branch out after page 94. Here's a taste of what's inside:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/693.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/694.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/695.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/696.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/697.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/698.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/699.jpg)

It covers the removal of 70+ factory connectors and 40+ electrical parts that I deemed unnecessary with a LS1 swap. It also goes into how I modified existing wiring to support all
of the aftermarket goodies installed in my car.

I've seen people here begging for this type of document. I.E., A guide for removing unnecessary wiring. However, I don't really want to advertise it as such, hence I don't really know what to do with it :) I do think people can learn a lot from my experiences but I also know something like this could be very dangerous in the hands of someone who doesn't have a firm grasp on what they're doing.
So... For now I'm just going to say this is simply a record of my mods for my own reference and for any future owners of my car (I imagine this can only help the resale of my car if I somehow allow someone to pry my hands off the steering wheel)

 :cheers:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: intrnlstorm on December 08, 2012, 02:42:33 PM
and I thought I was a detailed oriented person. Really great job, but I just don't have the words to describe how I feel about this....

 :bacon:

Joel
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on December 08, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
Mind = blown.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Shavel on December 08, 2012, 10:19:37 PM
+1
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 08, 2012, 10:20:36 PM
Yeah, I read through his work on that document.  It's...  amazing.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 28, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
Thank you gentlemen!

I've got another document to add for people that like this kind of thing:

http://www.halfspec.com/downloads/RX7/receipts.xls (http://www.halfspec.com/downloads/RX7/receipts.xls)

The full version of the excel file comes with all of the individual receipts in digital form. For now, they're sticking with me since it's got a lot of personal info on them.

Its another project I took on during my unemployment. Speaking of which, I've just completed a series of very promising interviews with a local company that I am hoping will lead somewhere  :bacon:
I've been afraid to add up my receipts for a while now. My original budget for this car was $30k. I've suspected I'd crossed that line almost 2 years ago so being $12k+ overbudget wasn't too big of a shock.
Oh well, I went ahead and did it for my own records, but also in case I ever sell the car. Also, I think this, along with my wiring manual serves as an excellent source for newbs looking to take on one of these swaps. Its especially helpful in seeing what nickle and dime's these builds to death! 2k+ for Mazda parts and ~$3k for interior parts lets you really see the value in a mint condition roller.

The build is still pretty much at a standstill. I'm still tinkering with the fuel pressure issue, but I'm not able to do anything substantial since I can't throw any money at it at the moment. Pretty frustrating since I can't get the car really drivable with a tune without getting the FP issue fixed. Because of that I haven't gotten to drive the car but ~ 400 miles over the last 8 months.

Lastly, here are two pics I took recently:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/700.jpg)

I customized my 5Zigen center caps with paint and new stickers that I had made here:
http://3dcarstickers.com/en/auxpage_yourlogo/ (http://3dcarstickers.com/en/auxpage_yourlogo/)

Its nice because they'll make them in any size you need and I needed 42mm. Only $11 shipped, but they come from the Ukraine so it takes a while to get to the states.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/701.jpg)

I had the fender off while I was swapping FPRs among other things. A long while back I was dying to find a pic of the FD with the fender off so I would know exactly how the front harness is routed. I think I finally found one, but for anyone else that needs a peek, here it is.

Peace!
Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on December 28, 2012, 04:00:47 PM
Great news on the job, and I'm afraid to look at the receipts haha.   

I have driven cars that needed 15% fuel correction before and the closed-loop feedback should take care of that... I know you were trying to get a tune on this thing and probably had it in open-loop but have you tried closed-loop o2 feedback?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 28, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
Great news on the job, and I'm afraid to look at the receipts haha.   

I have driven cars that needed 15% fuel correction before and the closed-loop feedback should take care of that... I know you were trying to get a tune on this thing and probably had it in open-loop but have you tried closed-loop o2 feedback?

Thanks!
No, I haven't crossed over to VE / Closed Loop tuning because I thought I would still be getting bad feedback with fuel trims disabled. Isn't disabling fuel trims part of tuning the VE table?

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on December 28, 2012, 04:55:03 PM
Wheels look fucking fantastic Lane.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on December 28, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
You'll get bad feedback for tuning, but the A/F's will stabilize and the car will run fine as long as you stay out high load/high rpm.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 28, 2012, 06:43:34 PM
Yeah, I get what you're saying. The car does drive alright as tuned in closed loop with fuel trims but it's got a bad unpredictable backfire at idle / coast that sounds like gunfire through my dual 3." Not fun to drive that way. Makes me really want to get it straightened out before I drive it regularly :\

Lane

PS
Thanks Matt!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 28, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
I'm a little lost here;   closed loop means you have your fuel trims running, open loop means you are not applying O2 sensor feedback, and thus have no fuel trims.

I take it you're tuning the MAF prior to the MAP (VE) currently?   Just trying to follow along here, I've never tuned a MAF car.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 29, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
Welp. If that's true Blake (and I trust that you're right) it shows my tuning inexperience is bleeding through ;)
I was under the impression that fuel trims needed to be locked in open and closed loop tuning to keep from adjusting a moving target. It seems that I may have made an assumption based on a misunderstanding of how closed loop operation works though.
Yes, I have started by attempting to tune my MAF in open loop. It's what's been giving me so much trouble. Perhaps I should switch over to MAP tuning.
On one hand I would love to get some productive tuning done. On the other, I'd really like to get to the bottom of my fuel pressure issue. However, as it stands I think I've eliminated everything except the injectors (used, maybe leaky) or a feed issue (clogged aftermarket sump)

What do you guys think?

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 29, 2012, 10:02:15 AM
Well, by definition open loop = running off your tables, closed loop = adjusting fueling with fuel trims (the feedback loop that occurs there is what makes it a "closed loop" system, i.e. it applies fuel, watches the O2s, applies fuel, watches O2s, etc, in a loop).   So, if you're locking out fuel trims, you are, by definition, open loop.   :)

I can't speak to how to tune it, beyond the fact that when I do VE tuning, I disable the MAF, and get the VE tabled nailed.   I would think you could then re-enable the MAF and tune that based on the knowledge that your VE table is already sorted.   I believe that's how they do it in the Calibrated Success video that I have.

Many much more knowledgeable than myself with regard to tuning though.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Demon on December 29, 2012, 11:33:31 AM
No, the maf never gets turned off. The maf MAKES the VE table by itself after it is calibrated.

Hell I don't even use our VE table, it runs completely off how much air the maf sees.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 29, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
digitalsolo: I'll have to dig into it some more. I've also got a thread on Hptuners with a scaled down version of my FP issues thread here, not because I don't trust or respect the advice given here, but simply because I thought people over there might have some experience with FP logs and how it relates to tuning.
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?p=313057#post313057 (http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?p=313057#post313057)
So far I've only gotten 2 people interested in the thread and they haven't been very helpful. I did post the question stemming from what Jordan was suggesting, but the one guy that seems to know or think he knows what he's talking about says FP will still affect tuning in closed loop :\
I guess that makes sense to me since the PCM's decision on a fuel trim percentage is based on what it thinks is a constant fuel pressure. So, if that fuel pressure is different, that fuel trim % calculation will be incorrect. Even if I tune the VE table, it would only work if my FP was stable during and after the tune. Right?

Demon: I'm interested in your approach to tuning. I've heard of guys backcalculating their VE tables from data collected from their properly tuned MAF (among other things). Is that what you're doing? That secret seems to be pretty tightly guarded on hptuners forums and other forums I've visited.

I'm thinking my next step in figuring out my fuel pressure issue is:
1. Disconnect my main fitting to my tank sump, and let a few gallons of fuel pour out while timing it to see if there is any restriction, and to get a rough calculation of flow to see if it meets the feed requirements of the Bosch 044
2. Send out my SVO #42 greentop fuel injectors to be flow/leak tested.

Back to my build... I did get a nice Christmas present:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/702.jpg)

It's nice to finally have the cargo floor covered :)
The RX7 logo is actually red and matches my mats / leather stitching.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 29, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
No, the maf never gets turned off. The maf MAKES the VE table by itself after it is calibrated.

You'll have to explain how setting up MAF frequency sets a VE table, or why you would want to ignore a big part of what the ECU uses for fueling.

Discussion for another time though, I don't want to go too off topic in this thread.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Demon on December 29, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
No, the maf never gets turned off. The maf MAKES the VE table by itself after it is calibrated.

You'll have to explain how setting up MAF frequency sets a VE table, or why you would want to ignore a big part of what the ECU uses for fueling.

Discussion for another time though, I don't want to go too off topic in this thread.


To put it in a quick summary:

You calibrate the MAF to learn x frequency = Y airflow.  Once that 2D correlation is set and you have a timing map that is close enough to not upset the AFR's, you can drive the car through various load and RPM ranges.  This best done on a load bearing dyno where you can hold an RPM and go through the whole load range.  The MAF then knows exactly how much air is flowing through the intake and then can plot the entire MAIN VE map.  If done correctly it is a very very good and quick way to make a perfectly smooth VE map that will run with 0 trim or corrections when its in operating temp.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on December 29, 2012, 10:10:07 PM
Demon's the odd one out here, while I agree it is quick, most tuners tune the VE table to know exactly how much air the engine is pumping at all the different cells and then use the MAF as a check.  Using the MAF vs TPS vs RPM for fueling is so 1980s!

Disclaimer: I'm not saying that's a terrible thing to do.

With either method of actually tuning the engine, you'll need constant fuel pressure for repeatable results.  My point was, if you're close, why not turn o2 feedback back on (closed loop) and the MAF and drive it until you can troubleshoot more ~ I was just saying that in the interim, I wouldn't just make it sit.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 30, 2012, 02:31:01 PM
My point was, if you're close, why not turn o2 feedback back on (closed loop) and the MAF and drive it until you can troubleshoot more ~ I was just saying that in the interim, I wouldn't just make it sit.

I see what you're saying. Right now, even after 12+ MAF tuning sessions (on the road), my open loop runs are backfire ridden and cruising speeds surge a lot. Going closed loop with my 'tuned' MAF table and involving my Pez mail order tuned VE table still renders embarrassing backfires, but cruising speeds DO smooth out alot. In the end it takes a ton of joy out of driving the car when I drive it the way it is. Lately I haven't wanted to drive it unless I'm doing it for some type of test/plan to try and fix my issues :(

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on December 30, 2012, 06:17:28 PM
Wow, that far off huh?  I see why you don't want to drive it lol.

Kind of frustrating.  I've never had a problem getting a customer's car driveable, even the really aggressive setups, but I'm not experienced enough to look at a map and some logs and tell you exactly what to change.

I agree that you should look at pressure at the regulator as well, from your other thread.  I don't see it being a slosh issue (low fuel level in the tank and high pump mounting location) because of how linear it is over the course of a long drive. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on December 31, 2012, 08:10:58 PM
Wow i like that carpet where did you get it from if you don't mind me asking?  Also on the tuning subject i was curious to everyones feeling of using the LS1tuning guide method. > http://ls1tuningguide.com/tuningmanuals/SD%20VE%20and%20MAF%20Tuning%20Instructions%20rev3.pdf (http://ls1tuningguide.com/tuningmanuals/SD%20VE%20and%20MAF%20Tuning%20Instructions%20rev3.pdf)  I love how your car is turning out by the way.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 31, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
I would strongly recommend that anyone that wants to get into tuning take a look at the Calibrated Success DVD by Greg Banish, as well as his books on tuning.   They are a really good way to get a grip on the basics.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 31, 2012, 11:40:17 PM
Thanks Jordan! I'll definitely keep my other thread updated as I investigate the most recent batch of suggestions.


Wow i like that carpet where did you get it from if you don't mind me asking?  Also on the tuning subject i was curious to everyones feeling of using the LS1tuning guide method. > http://ls1tuningguide.com/tuningmanuals/SD%20VE%20and%20MAF%20Tuning%20Instructions%20rev3.pdf (http://ls1tuningguide.com/tuningmanuals/SD%20VE%20and%20MAF%20Tuning%20Instructions%20rev3.pdf)  I love how your car is turning out by the way.

Thank you! The carpet came from here:

http://www.auto-interior.com/Mazda10.htm#RX7 (http://www.auto-interior.com/Mazda10.htm#RX7)

At $128 + 55 Mass backing (highly reccomended) it's a steal!!! It's no fun to install but the end result is top notch.

I agree with Blake / digitslsolo about Greg Banish's calibrated success DVDs and books. That's exactly the approach I've taken so far. It seems expensive but it's worth every penny. Just think of it as money you'd be paying a tuner to do your car once, except by doing it yourself you'll never have to pay someone to tune your car again!! :D
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 18, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
I am pleased to announce that I will be re-entering the job market after a 3 month hiatus and starting work at a local company here in Starkville on 01-21-13.
Maybe I'll be able to straighten out some of these nagging problems and get my car back to the paint shop one I get myself back on my feet financially :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on January 18, 2013, 12:30:16 PM
Awesome, glad to hear it Lane.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on January 18, 2013, 12:39:17 PM
Congrats! always a good feeling to have income and work. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on January 18, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
Awesome!  Doing the same stuff?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 18, 2013, 05:37:26 PM
Thanks Guys!

JI: Actually I'm veering off in another direction career wise. I used to design and control processes to build solid state power electronics for a startup company called SemiSouth. It was cool because the clean room fab we built the devices in was chock full of very high end machines that were a lot of fun to play with. However, they completely shut down in October and since then I decided I'd had my fill of the job security roller coaster that goes with the semiconductor industry (especially true with a startup company) and decided to venture out.

I'm going to work to make wire next week :) Specifically I'm going to be upgrading control systems (PLCs) for their ancient assembly line. The company is called SouthWire. They mostly make industrial wire up to 40kV I believe, but they make residential stuff too. I know around here, you can pick up their brand of Romex.

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on January 18, 2013, 06:04:08 PM
I am pleased to announce that I will be re-entering the job market after a 3 month hiatus and starting work at a local company here in Starkville on 01-21-13.
Maybe I'll be able to straighten out some of these nagging problems and get my car back to the paint shop one I get myself back on my feet financially :)

Lane

Does your paint still have the lines in it?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 18, 2013, 06:08:57 PM
I am pleased to announce that I will be re-entering the job market after a 3 month hiatus and starting work at a local company here in Starkville on 01-21-13.
Maybe I'll be able to straighten out some of these nagging problems and get my car back to the paint shop one I get myself back on my feet financially :)

Lane

Does your paint still have the lines in it?

Yessir. It still looks like sh!t  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on January 18, 2013, 06:49:59 PM
I am pleased to announce that I will be re-entering the job market after a 3 month hiatus and starting work at a local company here in Starkville on 01-21-13.
Maybe I'll be able to straighten out some of these nagging problems and get my car back to the paint shop one I get myself back on my feet financially :)

Lane

Does your paint still have the lines in it?

Yessir. It still looks like sh!t  :yay:

Lane

We hired a new guy at the shop here and that exact thing happen to him on his project.  It's called shrink back.  Why it happens is when you prime over 80 grit sand scratches the primer has to have time to "sink" into the deeper scratches.  Where as normally you'd prime over 180 sometimes a body guy will short cut his work and prime over 80 grit.  Now there is nothing wrong with priming over 80 grit it just takes a few days to sink in before you block your primer out and shoot paint on it.   After I looked at your pictures i was interested in figuring out what it was and why it happens.  I just recently figured it out and I wasn't sure if you had it fixed yet.  So I figured I'd share what it may have been.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 18, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
Wow! Thank you for taking such an interest in my problem and posting such a thorough diagnosis!
I'll definitely pass it on to my paint guys and make sure they don't rush it next time.

Thanks again!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on January 18, 2013, 07:19:09 PM
Good stuff dude!  I've heard of SouthWire.  I looked around at 'real jobs' for once this place becomes self-sustainable and lots of the applications engineering stuff I'm interested in is process controls/diagnostic/optimization stuff like that.

The primer sink-in stuff is weird, but I figure there's all sorts of stuff about paint/body that I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 19, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
It's been getting warmer here so I got off my butt last weekend and worked on my car a little bit.

One of the neater things I've made recently is a 'real' harness for my dash top gauge pod.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_1396_zps2cf55d65.jpg)

The pigtail at the end allows me to remove individual gauges instead of removing the whole pod and having to thread/re-thread the whole harness down through the dash (NOT fun).

The new gauge harness came about from the need to remove and return a speedhut fuel pressure gauge which in turn was a result of a phantom fuel pressure issue I've been tinkering with for months.
I'm happy to say I finally resolved the issue which is detailed in this post:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=13521.msg208820#msg208820 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=13521.msg208820#msg208820)

After moving past my fuel pressure hangup I  found myself thinking back to a quick PM a guy here sent me named scuter83. In it he said:

"Hey, I saw your thread about your car not running right and noticed a few things.  You might want to try running it without that honey comb you added.  Those MAF sensors are very sensitive to the way air is introduced to them, and although adding a flow straightener seems like a good idea, it isn't always the best depending on how it is implemented. "

This got my gears turning because I haven't checked on my honey comb air straightener since I installed it back in July 2012:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/658.jpg)
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg171483#msg171483 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg171483#msg171483)

When I installed it I remember thinking the wedging it in seemed like a really tight fit and I didn't think using JB Weld (something other people were recommending) was necessary. My thought today was what if the straightener had come dislodged?

Well on my lunch break I broke it out and this is what I found:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/705_zpsd744497e.jpg)

Its hard to see but what this pic shows is that the honeycomb is pressed against the MAF's input. Here's another where you can see how it slipped backwards in the tube:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/706_zpsf0228741.jpg)

You can see the scrape marks at the top of the tube that the honeycomb made as it got pulled through the intake pipe (probably at WOT). The result was that the honeycomb was pressed up against the MAF input and probably was at a minimum causing turbulence and at worst causing air diversion/restriction to the sensor.

My fix was to chuck the honeycomb and thank my lucky stars the MAF stopped it from making its was further into my engine. Hopefully I can pick up tuning again soon and get my car streetable :)


The last thing I've been working on is changing all the interior backlighting and indicator lights in the FD's dash to LEDs. This is something I used to for mr2 owners back in the day so I already had the supplies I needed. I've finished, but I haven't taken pictures with everything lit up yet. I'll try and post a pic tonight though.

What I do have pics of is of my logicon during its repair.
Repair? Oh I know ya'll have all seen this kind of stuff falling off of your interior panels:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/707_zps810ac14f.jpg)

Well, my logicon has lost so many during this project that I got to the F'it stage and just hotglued the whole thing down. I know its not a permanent solution, but it's going to buy me some time until I can find  a new panel:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/708_zps8c15cdc2.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/709_zps9f3c8c6f.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/710_zpscaba5634.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/711_zpsaf20c5e6.jpg)

Its not ALL hotglue. There were still remains of bosses and studs, plus a few in tact fastener connections. I just reinforced everything with ~2lbs of hot glue. It's pretty damn sturdy now  :yay:

The spurts of spring weather is rejuvenating my motivation. Hoping to get this build back on track now.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: intrnlstorm on March 19, 2013, 05:04:42 PM
I sent you the lasered fuse box decals, I hope it's what you wanted. I sent two different colors for you too, so you can decide which one you want.

Joel
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 19, 2013, 05:05:33 PM
I sent you the lasered fuse box decals, I hope it's what you wanted. I sent two different colors for you too, so you can decide which one you want.

Joel

Awesome! Thanks Joel! I'll be looking out for them :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: scuter83 on March 19, 2013, 07:52:52 PM
Glad to see my suggestion about the honeycomb worked out for you.  I had honestly been wondering about that just the other day.  Being an engineer myself, it is hard for me to leave a problem un-solved, especially when I have an idea that I am pretty sure would work, ha.

Good luck on the tuning!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 19, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
Thanks again scuter

As promised here are a few night pics showing off some of the LED work I put in:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/709_zps07f0c14f.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/710_zps5abf4fdf.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/708_zps1ab20fdc.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/707_zpsa222a212.jpg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on March 20, 2013, 12:21:50 AM
Wow.  Yeah, I'd drive that lol.  Great work man.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on March 20, 2013, 01:26:47 AM
Awesome.  Nice preview of what mine will look like.  I'll need some guidance on converting the rest of the interior to blue led's like you did.  Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 20, 2013, 08:10:03 AM
Thanks gents.

While I got almost everything blue (even the check engine light is blue) there are a few things I used red LEDs on. The air direction dial was the primary thing I 'tried' to convert over to blue but failed. It turns out that unlike the hot/cold dial. the direction dial ring has a serious filter on it so that even very bright blue get attenuated and hardly makes it through. Red however passes without getting dimmed at all. Even after deciding on red it was the most difficult part of the logicon to convert because the diffusers for that dial were crappy for some reason. I ended up having to put a diffused red LED behind each selection to get the results I was looking for.
I also converted the emergency blinker button to red LED.
All-in-all it was only a few hours of work which is a shot in the bucket with these swaps.

Overall I'm happy :)

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on March 20, 2013, 11:55:58 PM
Not sure if I missed it or not but what are the gauges reading? Everything looks great, the interior looks like a new car with a window sticker of $80k+
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 21, 2013, 07:51:31 AM
Not sure if I missed it or not but what are the gauges reading? Everything looks great, the interior looks like a new car with a window sticker of $80k+

What are the gauges reading? Which ones? Need mor info :)

Lane

PS Thanks! I'm definitely an interior man. To a fault! It's embarrassing how much I've got in it. Oh well. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on March 21, 2013, 11:22:05 AM
Whoops sorry about that. I meant the 4 new ones recently added on the dash. All I can make out is that the 3rd gauge might be volts...

I went back and looked at the beginnings of your build again, and I wouldn't doubt that your $spent/hours worked on interior is close to 1 to 1 haha.

Also going back through the thread, I noticed that your front brake rotors may be flipped. Not sure if you already noticed this or someone else already said something.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/275.jpg)

Normally the slotting faces the other way if your internal vanes are curved. Not that the slot direction is the big deal, but the internal cooling vanes of the brake disc are oriented the wrong way ( if they are curved.) Sure the car will still brake, but they won't be cooling themselves properly.

You may have straight vanes so it doesn't matter, but just wanted to let you know.

(http://zeckhausen.com/images/Rotors/how_to2.jpg)

http://zeckhausen.com/how_to_properly_install_rotors.htm (http://zeckhausen.com/how_to_properly_install_rotors.htm)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 21, 2013, 11:40:59 AM
Whoops sorry about that. I meant the 4 new ones recently added on the dash. All I can make out is that the 3rd gauge might be volts...

Also going back through the thread, I noticed that your front brake rotors may be flipped. Not sure if you already noticed this or someone else already said something.

Gauges in the pod are:
Wideband
Fuel Pressure
Volt Meter
Intake Temp

Gauges in the dash are:
Speedo
Tach
Fuel Level
Oil Pressure
Coolant Temp

All Speedhut.

And no, nobody has caught the potential rotor mismatch so good catch  :cheers: I've never had slotted or cross-drilled rotors so I didn't know it made a difference. Those rotors came with the roller. I'll have to check out my vanes and see what's up.
Thank you for the suggestion / catch.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on March 21, 2013, 01:28:57 PM
Nice gauge choices, just about every gauge will tell you if something comes up... although I know if I was driving it I would feel like I am working at desk in a nuclear plant making sure all systems are in check all the time to avoid a melt down.

Approach a red light... check all the gauges frantically making sure nothing is out of spec... light turns green... make sure nothing changed within the 30 sec I was waiting. Rinse and repeat every 5 sec during driving.

Sometimes I think I should just have a steering wheel and a shift/warning lights to save myself the stress haha. But ultimately monitoring everything will save some $$$ if you can catch a problem early.

NP about the rotors, hope it works out and it isn't too much of a pain to switch them.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on March 22, 2013, 05:47:51 PM
so gorgeous now do mine


 :wave:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 25, 2013, 02:59:42 PM
I received a really cool little present from intrnlstorm last Friday and I thought I'd show it off here  :yay:

For those of you that don't know, intrnlstorm has some type of engraving gizmo that can turn this:

(http://www.halfspec.com/halfspec.jpg)

Into THIS

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/709_zps69199cd9.jpg)

I had to draw up the template, but the rest was all him. He actually sent me two. One that had a stainless & black finish and another one that was black / orangeish yellow. I went with the black / orangeish yellow:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/707_zps1f24600f.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/708_zps14f5f5ad.jpg)

Little stuff like this really gets me goofball excited. To intrnlstorm; you made my weekend buddy. Thanks a million!  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on March 25, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
Ha very nice, I was wondering when you would post that!   :bacon:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on March 25, 2013, 04:44:11 PM
Sweeeeeet
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on March 25, 2013, 11:21:38 PM
So cool.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mad-ass on May 17, 2013, 07:20:06 AM
Just got done reading from page 10 to the end[I started there because my friend sent me the link saying "I love all the small details on this car..."]

Love all the little details that was put into this car.  But you had my head scratching couple of time on why and how you thought to use the items[the Nissan radio block plate, and GM floor mat holder] you used, let alone search for them, LOL.

I'd have to say though...the AC on this car is my favorite as that's one of the last piece that I have no idea how to tackle.

little late, but congrats on the house, getting married, and new career path. [better late then never right?]
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 17, 2013, 08:23:59 AM
Just got done reading from page 10 to the end[I started there because my friend sent me the link saying "I love all the small details on this car..."]

Love all the little details that was put into this car.  But you had my head scratching couple of time on why and how you thought to use the items[the Nissan radio block plate, and GM floor mat holder] you used, let alone search for them, LOL.

I'd have to say though...the AC on this car is my favorite as that's one of the last piece that I have no idea how to tackle.

little late, but congrats on the house, getting married, and new career path. [better late then never right?]

Thank you very much  :cheers:

Most of the little details boil down to me having too much time on my hands and a undefined completion time. I think I heard about the nissan din cover digging through some ancient threads on tha club. The GM floor mat holder was something I did dig into a little bit. I looked through a lot of different holders and settled on that one because it only required cutting 2 slits in the carpet vs punching a hole and crimping in a grommet (done before... not fun when the carpet is already installed).

It's funny how you mentioned the A/C. I'm actually in the final stages of setting up a group buy on my lines. I'm hoping to have something going here in the next couple of weeks. If you're interested, keep an eye on this thread:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=15590.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=15590.0)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Negrok20r on May 17, 2013, 11:40:18 AM
Nice build

Count me in for the ac lines
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jasongtr on May 18, 2013, 07:48:01 AM
awesome car and build thread, nearly crapped myself when i saw all you receipts, and im in the uk so will cost more to have stuff imported - oh well thats the way it goes i guess
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on May 30, 2013, 11:59:31 AM
I just read from page 1 straight through. I just bought my 2nd FD. The swap was done a couple years ago and it has now changed hands twice. Each time its getting improved and I plan to take it to the next level. My car should be arriving in the next couple weeks and am tackling several projects. One will be with your group buy A/C kit.

Your build is not only inspiring and thought provoking, it feels like a personal look into who you are as a man. Its a wonderful look not only into the process (swap) but highs and lows in life. i.e buying a home, meeting the woman (love of your life) you end up marrying and the moments of uncertainty of losing your job.

Much like life in general this build has had its ups and downs, highs and lows, moments of frustration and parallels life itself.
 Its success has been a reflection of the effort put into it and the perseverance of the person behind the wrench/wheel.

I nominate this build to the Hall of Fame.

Nice work Lane.

Keep at it... I know you will  :cheers:

Mike
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 30, 2013, 03:26:47 PM
Thanks guys!

Mik3ymomo - That's very flattering and I appreciate it. I had to forward some of that to my wife because the complements in this thread help her understand the obsession a little better ;)

I have made some major strides in getting everything squared away for the AC Lines. I only have two questions that need to be answered before I throw up the official GB thread and I expect both will be done in ~4 days.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mmett on May 30, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
Just read this entire post. Amazing work. I don't even want to know how much money you have in this car.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: osburn383 on June 12, 2013, 12:40:09 PM
Haha! Yeah, I'm hoping the check valve remedies that problem. I got it off eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270812025164 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270812025164)

Lane

Which size did you order?
Having a bit of a soft pedal still after power bleeding my brakes, hopefully this will help.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 12, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
Haha! Yeah, I'm hoping the check valve remedies that problem. I got it off eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270812025164 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270812025164)

Lane

Which size did you order?
Having a bit of a soft pedal still after power bleeding my brakes, hopefully this will help.

10mm.

It definitely holds vacuum when the engine dies on me, giving me a few good brake presses. However, I doubt its going to solve a soft pedal.

Good luck
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: osburn383 on June 12, 2013, 01:05:47 PM
Thanks.

Yeah going to try and power bleed the system one more time to see if that helps.

Great build thread by the way! One of my favorites for the attention to detail.
Hows the dinoc holding up now a days?

Also how is  the noise and heat after all that lizard skin?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 12, 2013, 03:58:46 PM
The dinoc is doing well. The car has been out in the sun and in my hot garage for almost 2 years now. Some of the hottest weather pulled a couple of spots away from the panel underneath on some very already stretched spots (around the buttons on the center console panel), but it doesn't look terrible. The heat also made a couple of the wrap around 'fingers' pop back around on the gauge cluster, but a dab of super glue fixed that. I've had my doubts, but so far I'm still happy with it.

The lizard skin thermal coating is worth its weight in gold. I double coated the trans tunnel and single coated the floor pan over my sound control coat. To date, I've never felt even warmth coming from my trans tunnel. As for the SC. I can't really say yet. It definitely seems to help with rattles, but even that is kind of muddled right now since my hatch still isn't back together and it makes a lot of racket. On top of all that, there's nothing in the world that's going to quiet down the dual 3" exhaust I've got. It's so loud that 30+ minute drives make my ears ring and there's no reason to have a stereo system installed. I have plans to scale down on the exhaust though so hopefully I'll have something soon where I can hear the difference :)

Thanks and good luck.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on June 12, 2013, 08:59:37 PM
Lane, just add some inline bullet mufflers.   You will be astounded at the difference it makes.  :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 12, 2013, 10:55:42 PM
Lane, just add some inline bullet mufflers.   You will be astounded at the difference it makes.  :)

Ill keep that in mind Blake. I've been saving my money for a tig welder. If I can't find a decent used welder I'm just going to go with an everlast machine. From there I've considered welding in one of those muffled x overs by magnaflow, but I'll keep the bullet mufflers in mind. That may be all I have clearance for!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Adam P on June 13, 2013, 05:11:14 AM
when your done with your car wanna finish mine>??
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 13, 2013, 10:54:51 AM
when your done with your car wanna finish mine>??

Seeing as its taken me 3 1/2 years to not even be done, I don't think I should lay a finger on anyone elses build  ;)

 :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 12, 2013, 06:19:18 PM
Figured its time for an update although not a lot has happened over the last month due to other projects.

My main project for June-July turned out to be a group buy for A/C systems after being propositioned by multiple people. Seeing as the main channels for getting A/C systems for swapped FDs has dried up considerably over the last year I agreed. The GB was a success overall and wrapped up on August 18th. I still have a few people on the list that haven't received their lines yet but it is because they are either in another country and/or require custom configurations which requires a lot of back-and-forth via email. The original GB thread is located here:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=16377.msg227177#new (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=16377.msg227177#new)

I am still offering A/C Lines and supporting electronics although they are a little more expensive now. If you are interested, please PM me.

One thing the A/C Group buy did allow me to do was revise my line design and also explore refrigerant options. Of primary interest to me was the possibility of using R12 in a swapped RX7's A/C system. Since the FD was originally designed to use R12, it made sense to me that I would get the coolest A/C if I used a refrigerant that was designed for the factory components still in the A/C loop (primarily the evaporator, but secondly the condenser because even though its an aftermarket unit its still mounted in the factoryish location with approximately the same allowance of airflow).

Since I am the first person to attempt such a feat in a FD (I could find no records of anyone attempting this) I had a lot of legwork to do. On top of that, it is very hard to find information on doing something like this because related questions are generally met with confusion, bad information, discouragement, and/or hostility. I can't really blame the people involved with that kind of feedback because R12 is a very misunderstood refrigerant, and I guess some of the hostility comes from people that HAVE worked hard to get their A/C where it is and having someone discuss the possibility of creating a system that is possibly better somehow makes them them mad? ;)
All that just fueled the fire though as it was an interesting and fairly unique idea to explore

One of the first things I wanted to find out was if the LS1 compressor is compatible with R12 since there was no reason in chasing after R12 if it was incompatible with the seals used our modern compressor. I found references to the V5 Delphi compressor in this document (which I believe is what the LS1 came with from the factory):
http://napabeltshose.com/~/media/NAPA/Documents/DPSS%20Facts%20HC10%20Comprs%20NAPA%20lr.ashx (http://napabeltshose.com/~/media/NAPA/Documents/DPSS%20Facts%20HC10%20Comprs%20NAPA%20lr.ashx)
It mentioned the V5 compressor as being "compatible with R-12 and R-134a systems." So I took that as a green light and continued.

The second hurdle to overcome was the availability of R12. I have a long history with R12, but there is a MOUNTAIN of bad information on the internet, so for someone who doesn't know any better its easy to see why people end up thinking that there is only a few lbs of the stuff still known to exist and it sells for $200 an ounce! lol!
Three points that most people don't realize is that when R12 was banned, it only banned NEW production of R12. Existing R12 is still legal although regulated. 2nd, from memory, R12 only got banned in the USA. While that's a big chunk of the market, other places in the world still have it and manufacture it. 3rd, existing US made R12 can be reclaimed, recycled, and resold.
So, that makes R12 sound a little more obtainable right??
The problem is that it IS still very much regulated and it is hard to get without knowing the correct channels. I started by getting EPA 609 certified on this website for $20:
http://www.epatest.com/ (http://www.epatest.com/)
The EPA 609 certification basically gave me free range to work on automotive A/C systems with R12 and purchase R12. With the EPA certification it was easy for me to purchase 28oz or R12 for right at $50 on eBay.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/717_zps27c8778e.jpg)

The third hurdle was the actual lines. R12 uses different style service ports, so my lines would have to be remade. The GB helped me out with this since I had everything in stock I needed to rebuild my lines with the correct service ports. Afterwards I sold my existing lines to a member here at a discounted price.

The fourth hurdle was addressing the fact that R12 uses a different type of oil than R134a. R134a uses PAG oil whereas R12 uses Mineral oil. This is important because you can't mix the two together which means I would be looking at flushing EVERYTHING in the A/C loop. Since I replaced my lines they were new and wouldn't have to be flushed, so for me this meant flushing my evaporator and condenser. For my compressor I just drained all the oil I could by unbolting it, turning it upside down and turning its drive wheel. Pretty straight forward:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/715_zps8f1dd3fe.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/716_zpsecab0157.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/718_zps88ca3607.jpg)

I flushed everything out with FJC KwickFlush and compressed air. Afterwards I oiled the system with ~6oz of Ester oil. I ended up going with Ester oil since it's supposed to be compatible with with PAG and Mineral oils, so if traces of PAG were still around in my compressor it shouldn't cause too big of a problem.

The 5th hurdle ended up not being a hurdle at all. R12 runs at a slightly lower pressure than R134a. Since my PCM uses a GM pressure switch that is designed for R134a I had concerns that it wouldn't work well with R12. Well, like I said it turned out to be a non issue as it was perfectly happy to let my compressor cycle when I commanded it to.

Picked up a set of R12 gauges:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/719_zps55fe5269.jpg)

And charged her up:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/720_zps3a41df9a.jpg)

Results = Ice Cold A/C  :yay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/721_zps778b2328.jpg)
Frosty condensation  :cheers:

I haven't gotten a lot of drive time with the system, but from my initial charge and drive, it was blasting icy cold, even with a missing part of my air duct system (unknown at the time). I found out about a week later that during my tan to black door panel conversion I forgot to re-install the door duct that transfers air from the dash duct to the vent in the drivers side fan. Without that duct I was just blowing cold air inside my door panel lol. Even so, I was impressed at how cool the air was even parked in my garage!

I will definitely be getting some more quantitative data on the setup after I get some of the other problems worked out on my car. In the meantime, stay tuned.

Other side issues that have been taking up my time over the last few months have been:

Tuning and fuel issues:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=15524.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=15524.0)

Transmission issues:
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=14888.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=14888.0)

Neither issue has been completely resolved, but I have made progress on both.

For tuning, I've just about decided that I'm going to have to take it to a tuner. I've learned a TON about tuning, but after a year + I have been unable to get over the hump of getting a well sorted tune, hence the decision. I think what I have learned will aide me in making adjustments in the future, but first I'm going to have to get a pro to baseline the car. I'm open to suggestions. I've noted people on here that tune and SpeedFab comes to mind since he's localish. Hell, I may just have to make the ~9hr trip and have him tune her up  :o

For my fuel issues I made a lot of changes over a 2 month period only to find that the majority of my problems were being caused by a chunk of plastic / epoxy in my sump's fuel outlet.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/713_zps6dd7d96c.jpg)

After the discovery I reverted almost everything to my original setup with the addition of a check valve and a ball valve at the sump outlet to make fuel line servicing a little easier:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/722_zpsc35852ad.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/723_zps4f30d974.jpg)

Its just a Parker 1/2" NPT right angle ball valve. I remove the handle so little punks won't mess with it when my car's parked ;)


My latest issues have been transmission issues. My transmission was supposedly a fresh rebuild when I got it but the problems I'm having make me question if it was done correctly if at all. Problems I have been experiencing are:

Grinding when shifting to 2nd and sometimes when shifting to 3rd. This usually happens during fast acceleration.

Dropping out of gear when in 3rd and 5th. I.E., the lever pops out of gear and returns to neutral.

Internal catching / binding. This one is the most mysterious and concerning. The car will sometimes lurch / roll forward ~1/2" when in neutral, clutch out, and parking brake off. The lurch also makes the idle rpms dip. The binding has also shown itself at very low speeds in 1st and reverse. For example, I'll be driving into a parking spot or backing out of it and the car will bind up 2 or 3 times which shakes/rattles the shifter and noticeably brakes the car. I eliminated the differential and the brakes as causing this problem before blaming the transmission.

So I decided to pull the transmission:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/724_zpsa53ac446.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_0259_zps19811485.jpg)

My untrained eyes couldn't detect any major problems so I started looking around for help I could outsource. That's when I started trying to contact Tick Performance.
I've known of them as a competent albeit expensive T56 rebuilder, but I was willing to pay the price for good work. However, they lost ~$1.6k of business over 2 weeks of non existent communication. I spent days calling and using their websites contact form before I resorted to using LS1tech's PM system to try and message a few of the Tick Performance Employee / Members. Finally I re-activated my facebook account and messaged them through their official page. Low and behold I got a response via facebook after a week. It was a brief message saying they were sorry they'd missed my other attempts at contact and that they would like to help me. I replied back saying I was interested and gave all my contact info. After that I got nothing. I tried every method I had at my disposal for another week. Afterwards I was furious that such a established business had such non existent communication, so I vowed they wouldn't get a penny of my money. I mean, I understand if you've got too much business to take on new business (and even wrote them that), but to act like I don't even exist really grinds my gears  >:( Screw em!

I ended up settling on Texas Driveline Performance http://www.texasdrivetrainperformance.com/ (http://www.texasdrivetrainperformance.com/)
Their prices and rep beat Tick Performance's prices and rep all day long. Matt and Jason have instantly replied or called me back and got everything setup + a UPS pickup scheduled in no time flat!

My trans will hopefully go out tonight:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/726a_zpsf97c4dd1.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/727_zpsf733c8b6.jpg)

We'll see

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on August 13, 2013, 12:12:03 AM
Sucks to hear about the transmission.  Ever since I've had my trans it's never seemed to go all the way into 3rd.  Well on the track and and high revs it pops out of gear on decel like yours does.  It sucks to hear about tick, but nice find on the other place.  Their prices are much more reasonable.  I hope this works out well for you, because they may be getting my business in the future.  Keep us posted on their turn around time and how well it works out.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on August 13, 2013, 07:09:08 PM
I was going to use TDP for my trans rebuild, but I ended up not needing one. They were great with communication, and seem very well priced.

Going with a stage 2 rebuild? That's about all you need from what I remember unless you plan on going 4 digit HP numbers... Hope yours doesn't need too much work, good luck.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 13, 2013, 10:30:42 PM
Going with a stage 2 rebuild? That's about all you need from what I remember unless you plan on going 4 digit HP numbers... Hope yours doesn't need too much work, good luck.

Yes. Technically my trans is a stage 3 by most people's standards, but since all the stage 3 parts aren't consumables the stage 2 rebuild will do for me :)

They should have it tomorrow. I'll report back when I see what their work looks like and how much it actually costs once they get their hands in it.

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 22, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
I had an interesting development occur today...

I dropped by the paintshop I used almost 2 years ago to paint my car. For those of you just joining us the shop spent 7 months on the car and I ended up with paint that looks like this:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg154096#msg154096 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg154096#msg154096)

They didn't charge me a dime and begged me to take it away and said they would finish it when I brought it back. Well, today was the day I brought it back.

I walked in and spoke with the owner asking if they were interested in finishing the car or if they wanted to settle up with the parts I was happy with. Well.... They turned me down on finishing up and told me I didn't owe them anything. We then proceeded to talk cars and I showed the owner what I'd done with it since I'd gotten it back.

I have very mixed feeling about this. 1st off I'm annoyed that my car is in the shape that it is and now I'm out on my ass feeling like my car will always be 1/2 done until its painted. I'm also sympathetic to the owner since he just bit the bullet for the entire thing and I DID end up with a very well painted front bumper, fenders, sunroof, all jambs, and pop up light covers. Finally, I am little excited about having the choice to shop this job around and having the $$$ to do it but simultaneously overwhelmed.

So that leaves me with some options I'm considering.

1. Start looking for a painter that isn't afraid of the defects, is willing to strip the car down as far as necessary to level everything out, and paint everything (hood, doors, quarters, hood, hatch, bumper) + do any post paint work to get the mirror black finish I'm dying for.

2. Do the paint job myself

3. F the paint and use the cash I saved to buy a welder to finish my exhaust and get the car tuned and drive it with a shit paint job.

4. Part the bitch out and sell it.

Those options are in an order I favor btw ;)

It's just a very monumental task finding a painter I trust in Mississippi. I'd be willing to strip it down and trailer it within reason and I've got $3k+ waiting to spend on quality work, but I just think its going to be a hard sell.

Anyone know anyone or have any advice?

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on October 22, 2013, 04:17:04 PM
My .02.

Don't do it yourself.   I know you are as anal about stuff as I am, and you'll never be happy with a first attempt at a gloss paint job.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AHarada on October 22, 2013, 08:10:30 PM
Vinyl wrap it yourself?  A friend of mine did that and is happy with the result, although his is flatblack and not a gloss finish.  Just a thought you can consider.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 22, 2013, 10:23:49 PM
My .02.

Don't do it yourself.   I know you are as anal about stuff as I am, and you'll never be happy with a first attempt at a gloss paint job.

Agreed. I've had enough painting failures not to trust myself to do a whole car. I run into problems when it comes to seeing the wet edge of the paint. I just don't have the skill so I end up second guessing myself and always end up with a coat that's too heavy which sags / drips.
To be more precise, option 2 was more about prep work. I feel pretty confident that I can strip the old paint and get the panels straight. I am anal enough that I think I could get the surface prepped properly. In my mind that would do a lot to assure a quality paint job. I'd just have to track down someone to shoot the car when I was done.
Still, its not an option I really favor. I just don't think I have the free time any more  :(

Vinyl wrap it yourself?  A friend of mine did that and is happy with the result, although his is flatblack and not a gloss finish.  Just a thought you can consider.

That's an option I've considered a lot over the last 3 years. I like the idea, but I don't consider it a permanent option. Also, I'm a detailing junkie (when I've got decent canvas to work with), so not having the option to polish would drive me crazy.
Finally, I haven't been 100% happy with the di-noc wrap I've used on my interior. Mississippi summers are h.o.t and vinyl doesn't like sticking to curved surfaces when it gets hot. The FD is very curvy ;)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on October 23, 2013, 12:27:21 AM
Don't do 2 or 4.  As Blake said I painted my car myself as well and you will never get it exactly how you want it.  Especially if you're a perfectionist.  You also have to be patient with most body shops.  I know it sucks, but they're more worried about production work versus "restoration" work.   1 or 3 are good options the way I see it is 1 you want a good looking car but will have to wait for exhaust and a tune so it's going to sit anyway.  Or the other you can enjoy and drive your car at the expense of redoing your paint in the future.  If you're like me you will end up getting it painted at some point.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 23, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
Don't do 2 or 4.  As Blake said I painted my car myself as well and you will never get it exactly how you want it.  Especially if you're a perfectionist.  You also have to be patient with most body shops.  I know it sucks, but they're more worried about production work versus "restoration" work.   1 or 3 are good options the way I see it is 1 you want a good looking car but will have to wait for exhaust and a tune so it's going to sit anyway.  Or the other you can enjoy and drive your car at the expense of redoing your paint in the future.  If you're like me you will end up getting it painted at some point.

Those are really the only 2 options I favor actually ;)
Patience is my thing. I gave the last paint shop 7 months to get the job done. I don't mind waiting for quality work. I just need to find someone that can deliver.

I've got a lead on someone localish that may be willing to do the work. I've contacted him and we're talking. Hopefully we can work out an arrangement.

I'll keep y'all posted.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on October 23, 2013, 04:44:33 PM
Well you have the price right. I got a local guy who paints older restoration cars, old Camaro's, etc... He came over and told me an estimate for painting it would ~$3k.

I am in a very similar situation as you, however I am going for option #3. Get a legit TIG setup.

As you said yourself, you have spent over 3 years on the car and you aren't even done with it. Who know's how far the end is? Which option will benefit you more in the long run? The way I see it, the paint is a liability. The only thing it provides is a cleaner look for when you are driving it, but comes with the catastrophic risk of scratching it while doing something else on it, decide you want a new hood, new fenders, new bumper, etc... IMO paint is the last thing to do before you just want track/enjoy the car.

The TIG setup will allow you to learn and perfect a skill set, help with other projects on the car, allow you to actually create things, and even repair other things that are outside of the car world.

The way I see it, a TIG would be an investment with dividends and growth, and paint is just sunk costs. Getting a TIG earlier to allow welding skill to grow > Paint now.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 19, 2013, 08:54:35 AM
Well guys. I've got a hard deadline for completion. 7 months 1 week...

Cause this bundle of joy is on the way:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/family/baby_zps79bd8476.jpg)

 :yay:

I'm exited but know it'll change everything.
The race is on!   :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on November 19, 2013, 09:07:34 AM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 19, 2013, 10:00:17 AM
Lol congrats.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on November 19, 2013, 03:43:20 PM
Haha congratulations Lane, that's awesome.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on November 20, 2013, 01:51:46 AM
There is no excuse now. Get a TIG for the baby.

Congrats.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 20, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
/\ This makes a surprising amount of sense.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 20, 2013, 09:48:41 AM
Thanks guys. We're excited :)

I'm talking to my painter of choice today to talk specifics, timelines, and price. Depending on the outcome of that conversation I'll decide whether or not to pull the trigger on a welder. Right now the options on the table are to get the process started now or wait until spring.
As much as I'd like to go ahead and push for the welder, paint has become the thorn on my build's side. Nothing else has come close to the frustration this process has caused. I can order a welder any time of the day because it doesn't require another person I have to depend on. Shopping for a skilled and trustworthy painter in Mississippi has become a monumental task. I'm afraid if I don't work it out with this guy I may have to start over from scratch which might mean it doesn't happen with the little one on the way.
I do agree, paint is a liability and in my garage it's especially a liability (I've scratched my drivers fender and my passenger door twice since my last faux paintjob). However, I may just have to accept that liability to keep things moving forward.

I'll keep you guys posted

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 02, 2013, 08:55:04 AM
Well guys. I've got some bad news or good news depending on your perspective.

I have decided to end this project and sell my car.

My reasons are pretty much the normal stuff. I got older, got married, have a child on the way, have zero time, have an ever shrinking budget, and my car needs have changed significantly now that I'm out of my 20s. Time and money have been a real obstacle recently. Many of you are keenly aware that quality work takes time and money. Well, I have noticed that working on my car in 1 or 2 hours increments is just a recipe for shoddy work and frustration. I have never settled for sub quality work, so it ends up just being frustrating as I have to stop and restart multiple time to do a job that should only take a few hours. I just don't have that kind of consecutive time anymore.

On top of everything else, my rx7 has just lost its pedestal status. I simply relate it to the fact that I've had to work through all of the problems that have come up which really shows you the ugly side of a car. It just sucks the appeal out of a car. Even though my car is a car I'd rate as very well sorted (aside from paint and a good tune) it's just been the 4 year process that's drained my enthusiasm.

I'd like to go ahead and clear my wife of any blame for this project's end ;) Sure it was hard for her to understand the kind of money involved in it and my time spent was always a battle, but in the end the decision was my own.

Along with the sale of this car I'm also planning on selling my 2004 E60 525i BMW. This decision falls into a second category for why I have decided to sell the RX7. I have officially caught the bug to live debt free. I know, it sounds crazy, but I want it and I'm willing to make some sacrifices to get it haha! Even though both cars are paid for, my wife and I have substantial student loan debt that I'd really like to take a chunk out of.

So what's the future look like for me? Well, I'm not throwing ALL that that to student loans. I mean, I've gotta drive something right? I'll be looking for something that's fun but family friendly. An older but nicer BMW Lexus comes to mind. I'm also open to a 01-03 WRX STi, but I'm cautious since I want to try and get away from the modding itch and the STi may be too tempting ;)
I'm going to start a general thread to get some pointers on a fun sedan.

Expect a for-sale ad in the next week.  I'm planning on listing it for a month or two in hopes of finding the right buyer. After that I'll consider parting it out. I WILL NOT take offers or dibs for parts at this time. Neither this thread or my for sale thread will become a huge list of parts claims / dibs until I've made the decision to part out!

I'll stick around. It's been a fun ride.

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on December 02, 2013, 10:14:12 AM
Sucks to hear man.  I dont fault you at all for wanting to live debt free.  My wife and I made that decision 2 years ago with the sale of our house and it was the best decision we ever made. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: karsty on December 02, 2013, 10:53:35 AM
You were so close to being 100% complete!  It's an amazing build all around, and somebody will be getting a wicked car.  I understand having other priorities and wanting to live debt free though.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on December 02, 2013, 11:30:41 AM
Going to miss updates on this build.  :(  Good luck with everything.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on December 02, 2013, 03:50:05 PM
will you still do ac wiring for ls3?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 02, 2013, 04:15:55 PM
Thanks guys

will you still do ac wiring for ls3?

I'm still planning on it. At least for this spring / summer. Not having an engine bay for mock ups will severely impede my ability to make custom lines, but it's not impossible and I'll definitely be able to recreate standard lines and electronics.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mrj82 on December 10, 2013, 07:50:02 PM
Hey Lane, if you decide to keep the car, and I think you should. I know a really good painter, however I'm in Laurel, MS. So might be a little haul for you. My reasoning for keeping the car, if you ever want a play toy again its going to be a whole lot harder to do after you have that baby. I can tell you that from experience. Although lucky for me my wife loves cars and is all about having a "race car" as she calls it lol. I didn't really have a problem with money/time to build my last car before I met her, but life changes things and well now our baby girl is 2 so I can handle doing some stuff to the FD here and there. But honestly unless your hurting for money and just have no other option but to sell it you should most certainly keep it. You have way too much invested to piss it away now. Just my $.02, not trying to offend you or anything.  :) Oh and as I mentioned in your other thread you should totally check out a G8 GT or at least test drive one. We have 2 of them and they are great cars. Plus being an LS platform, there is plenty of aftermarket available. And by far the car has the most interior space you can find aside from maybe a high end Mercedes or BMW. Which is helpful with those car seats/kids.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on December 11, 2013, 07:40:24 AM
I am going to agree, I had a built up 350Z when I got married and sold it so I could buy a family car.  I am just now (2 years later) beginning to get stuff together to build another car and it will be sooooo much slower than before.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 11, 2013, 08:29:27 AM
mrj82 - I'm definitely giving the G8 a fair chance in my considerations. One thing I'm really looking for in a car is a healthy enthusiast presence on the internet with a good knowledge base of diy info and the G8 has a good bit of it :)

mrj82 & Classy - A lot of your points are good ones. If anything, I completely understand that this will be the last chance I get for several decades to do a project car at this scale unless I have a son and I get the chance to build one (well... not one of these, but a project car non-the-less) with him as his first car :D
I can't say after this car goes I'll be immune to the bug, but I have a feeling it won't bother me as much as some folks. I've got a lot of hobbies and I even plan on taking on amateur photography thanks to one persistent and generous member on here. A lot of my hobbies have been neglected over the last few years, so it'll be nice to get back to them.
Money is a big reason for this decision, but it's not the main reason. All of our cars are paid for and we're not hurting for anything, but I'm just really wanting to get to a place where our income is working for us instead of paying the bank a premium for turning my house and my wife's education into a payment plan.
The the fact remains that I'm only making the time to drive my car a couple of times a month. I'm getting older because I've definitely started prioritizing comfort and luxury over sporty and fast. It's also not that the rx7 doesn't drive very well, it's just the last 3 things (paint, exhaust, and tune) that need to be done irritate me enough that I'd rather just drive my bmw comfortably.

I'm still putting together my for-sale ad. I've already got 9 pages written :(
Pictures is what's holding me back at the moment. It's been miserable down here in Starkville over the last 4 or 5 days. I can't imagine what it's like further north. Hopefully, I can start the process of detailing her today and get the listing started this weekend.
I'm actually going to attempt to get an exclusive from bringatrailer. If that doesn't work, it'll start here.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on December 11, 2013, 01:29:09 PM
I 100% understand going from fast and sporty to comfortable and luxurious.  I went from my 350Z (pretty comfy vehicle anyway) to a 300C.  I hated it, but loved the room...  It eventually got to me and I traded it for a challenger (current DD) and I am happy with it, but I want more.  I think going with an E39 is the right thing, once I sell my RX7, I will be buying an E39 (non M5) because I think it truely will have the right mix of room, luxury, comfort and once I LS swap it, performance. 

I hope that the swapped e39 will keep my car bug happy long enough to wait for my son to get a little older where he will want to work on cars with me and we can build something together.  In the mean time I can waste money on a welding setup and continue to refine my skills that way.

I think you are on the right track, but just make sure you are getting what you want and not what you are settling for.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on December 11, 2013, 04:59:43 PM
Just extend what you already have.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/fewskillz/Rx7-Limo.jpg)

You could do it if you got that TIG ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 11, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
Just extend what you already have.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/fewskillz/Rx7-Limo.jpg)

You could do it if you got that TIG ;)

(http://files.sharenator.com/kill_it_with_fire-s670x394-132457-580.jpg)

:(

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: rajeevx7 on December 23, 2013, 08:32:57 PM
Well, you definately inspired the junior members and left this place better than before your build. Thanks.

Have fun in your new Cts-V wagon.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 24, 2013, 08:12:40 AM
Well, you definately inspired the junior members and left this place better than before your build. Thanks.

Have fun in your new Cts-V wagon.

Thanks Raj. I'm trying to look at it that way. I'll lose money and countless hours, but I will have gained a lot of knowledge and experience from this project and even though it's not 100% I'm still going to chalk it up as a success since it is driveable and about as bulletproof as it can be. It just needs a few outsources skills to finish up and that would have been out of my hands anyway ;)

CTS-V Wagon. Haha! You're a funny guy  :P

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 09, 2014, 11:13:42 AM
Now for sale guys  :(

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18535.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18535.0)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: airwolf16 on January 10, 2014, 12:53:47 AM
Just read this whole thing. you are an inspiration to somebody like myslef that is just strating into one of these builds. It is people like you that make this forum so great!. I have picked up alot if good ideas from you.

Thanks, and congratulations on the new child!

-Aaron W.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jessethedrifter on January 23, 2014, 10:10:30 PM
Please don't sell YOUR car  :(
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 03, 2014, 11:11:04 AM
Alright, lets get this thread rolling again.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FOnCSAr3tXo/UiT5TS53a9I/AAAAAAAABiI/OVNYqchXxdU/s1600/Take2.png)

Over the last 3 months I've left my car parked in my garage while I worked on an array of other projects. In-between projects I had time to think and re-plan how I want the next 5 years to go and have decided to put off some financial goals in return for keeping my car. I've officially closed my for-sale ad and should have some progress in the next month or so. I'm really going to try and focus on getting the car painted, having a exhaust built, and getting it tuned. If I can get over those three humps I think it will be downhill from there.

Excited to get back in the fray again  :drive:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Cker7 on April 03, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
NICE!

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 03, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Here's my gallery and ride along video from the for-sale ad just to add some eye candy to this thread :)


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(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/11693444485_b58b60dde8_m.jpg) (http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/11693444485_b58b60dde8_b.jpg)(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5492/11695112605_eee3c8df98_m.jpg) (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5492/11695112605_eee3c8df98_b.jpg)

HalfSpec's Mississippi RX7 with 383CI Forged & Stroked LS1 Engine Swap - Ride-along (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLAtzXTpKUQ#ws)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mattster03 on April 03, 2014, 12:55:07 PM

Over the last 3 months I've left my car parked in my garage while I worked on an array of other projects. In-between projects I had time to think and re-plan how I want the next 5 years to go and have decided to put off some financial goals in return for keeping my car. I've officially closed my for-sale ad and should have some progress in the next month or so. I'm really going to try and focus on getting the car painted, having a exhaust built, and getting it tuned. If I can get over those three humps I think it will be downhill from there.

Excited to get back in the fray again  :drive:

Lane

Putting off financial goals is what being a car guy is all about!   :P

Glad to hear you are keeping it... looking forward to seeing what's next.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: spd on April 03, 2014, 02:13:48 PM
wicked!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Steve Theodore on April 03, 2014, 09:47:08 PM
Lane,

I'm the guy on Supraforums that just removed your thread (as per your request over there).  I was compelled to read a bit more about your car so came over to read your build thread...and HOLY CRAP am I glad you did.  It was like a small emotional roller coaster to read through all 30 pages of it to see the ups and downs of this build and the COLOSSAL amount of quality and execution you put into this car.  It was like a movie when I got to the part where you made the decision to sell it, and I'm so happy that you were able to justify holding on to the car.  This is timeless, and worth so much more than your asking price.  Trust me when I say I'm critical when it comes to asking prices for modified cars, but seeing what you did here was obviously you were literally giving away the car!

Guys like you are who inspire me most as a life-long car enthusiast.  I'm no mechanical or electrical engineer, and nearly anything you did would scare me off, but I really respect what you do and how you inspire others in your community and beyond.  So, I came over here to norotors.com and registered just to tell you what a freaking phenomenal job you did.  Hats off to you! :cheers:

 :drive:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 03, 2014, 11:15:32 PM
Lane,

I'm the guy on Supraforums that just removed your thread (as per your request over there).  I was compelled to read a bit more about your car so came over to read your build thread...and HOLY CRAP am I glad you did.  It was like a small emotional roller coaster to read through all 30 pages of it to see the ups and downs of this build and the COLOSSAL amount of quality and execution you put into this car.  It was like a movie when I got to the part where you made the decision to sell it, and I'm so happy that you were able to justify holding on to the car.  This is timeless, and worth so much more than your asking price.  Trust me when I say I'm critical when it comes to asking prices for modified cars, but seeing what you did here was obviously you were literally giving away the car!

Guys like you are who inspire me most as a life-long car enthusiast.  I'm no mechanical or electrical engineer, and nearly anything you did would scare me off, but I really respect what you do and how you inspire others in your community and beyond.  So, I came over here to norotors.com and registered just to tell you what a freaking phenomenal job you did.  Hats off to you! :cheers:

 :drive:

Thanks Steve. That probably one of the nicest things anyone has said about my build and having you join simply to say so makes it mean even more.
Thanks for closing my thread over at supraforums and feel free to use your new membership to browse around and see what the forum has to offer. There's lots of bright folks here that have other great build threads you might get a kick out of  :cheers:

Thanks everyone
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Still_Ridin_Clean on April 05, 2014, 07:05:46 AM
Glad you're keeping the car
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Dvous on April 05, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
Lane,

I'm the guy on Supraforums that just removed your thread (as per your request over there).  I was compelled to read a bit more about your car so came over to read your build thread...and HOLY CRAP am I glad you did.  It was like a small emotional roller coaster to read through all 30 pages of it to see the ups and downs of this build and the COLOSSAL amount of quality and execution you put into this car.  It was like a movie when I got to the part where you made the decision to sell it, and I'm so happy that you were able to justify holding on to the car.  This is timeless, and worth so much more than your asking price.  Trust me when I say I'm critical when it comes to asking prices for modified cars, but seeing what you did here was obviously you were literally giving away the car!

Guys like you are who inspire me most as a life-long car enthusiast.  I'm no mechanical or electrical engineer, and nearly anything you did would scare me off, but I really respect what you do and how you inspire others in your community and beyond.  So, I came over here to norotors.com and registered just to tell you what a freaking phenomenal job you did.  Hats off to you! :cheers:

 :drive:

Now that you got your drama in, head over to spacevomits build thread for a good laugh!  :D

Very happy to hear your keeping the car.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on April 05, 2014, 06:57:21 PM
After reading your entire build and seeing your car was for sale I thought to myself... Guy must be full blown crazy. I was considering buying it in all honesty after being halfway through my own project. Glad your keeping it. There's way too much time and energy invested into your car to let it go. You'd kick yourself for it in the future when cash isn't so tight and you're looking for another one!

Soooo happy you're keeping it just for the asset you are to this forum as well. Not many people do as thorough of write ups as you. I know I've learned a lot of stuff from those posts.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on April 07, 2014, 08:42:08 PM
This too pleases me.  Badass dude!  Now we must meet up.  Cruise the coast?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: spacevomit on April 08, 2014, 11:27:00 AM
Lane,

I'm the guy on Supraforums that just removed your thread (as per your request over there).  I was compelled to read a bit more about your car so came over to read your build thread...and HOLY CRAP am I glad you did.  It was like a small emotional roller coaster to read through all 30 pages of it to see the ups and downs of this build and the COLOSSAL amount of quality and execution you put into this car.  It was like a movie when I got to the part where you made the decision to sell it, and I'm so happy that you were able to justify holding on to the car.  This is timeless, and worth so much more than your asking price.  Trust me when I say I'm critical when it comes to asking prices for modified cars, but seeing what you did here was obviously you were literally giving away the car!

Guys like you are who inspire me most as a life-long car enthusiast.  I'm no mechanical or engineer, and nearly anything you did would scare me off, but I really respect what you do and how you inspire others in your community and beyond.  So, I came over here to norotors.com and registered just to tell you what a freaking phenomenal job you did.  Hats off to you! :cheers:

 :drive:

Now that you got your drama in, head over to spacevomits build thread for a good laugh!  :D

Very happy to hear your keeping the car.

HAR HAR HAR :P lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 17, 2014, 05:46:30 PM
Thanks again guys

This too pleases me.  Badass dude!  Now we must meet up.  Cruise the coast?

Sorry I missed this. I've never been to a serious meetup / cruise other than a mr2oc event in Birmingham like 12 years ago I think ;)
I guess I shy away thinking I'll do it after I'm done with the car. Hopefully this can happen soon though. I'd love to make SNS one year and hopefully I can do things like Cruise the Coast.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on April 18, 2014, 11:23:48 AM
Thanks again guys

This too pleases me.  Badass dude!  Now we must meet up.  Cruise the coast?

Sorry I missed this. I've never been to a serious meetup / cruise other than a mr2oc event in Birmingham like 12 years ago I think ;)
I guess I shy away thinking I'll do it after I'm done with the car. Hopefully this can happen soon though. I'd love to make SNS one year and hopefully I can do things like Cruise the Coast.

Lane



I hate to break it to you but you will NEVER be done with your car, non of us really will.  There is always something else to fix/change/upgrade... Thats why we love em!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jessethedrifter on April 18, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
Dude, I'm so glad you're keeping your car. You put in waaaay too much effort to just give it up  :cheers:
Title: nice!
Post by: mdpalmer on May 16, 2014, 03:29:19 PM
Wow Lane... I just read thru most of your thread. Top notch build. Makes me want to re-do a bunch of stuff on my car lol. Really nice job and sexy FD. Glad to hear you're keeping it dude.  8)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on May 24, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
Thanks again guys

This too pleases me.  Badass dude!  Now we must meet up.  Cruise the coast?

Sorry I missed this. I've never been to a serious meetup / cruise other than a mr2oc event in Birmingham like 12 years ago I think ;)
I guess I shy away thinking I'll do it after I'm done with the car. Hopefully this can happen soon though. I'd love to make SNS one year and hopefully I can do things like Cruise the Coast.

Lane

I had a bit of free time today, so I sat here and read your entire thread.  My wife has me at a rabbit show (yes, rabbit show) so I have been glued to my phone reading your thread.   As you know I am kind a new guy around here.  I have appreciated your input in my thread as I have learned, as well as the baller AC lines you provide.  I figured out pretty quick you have a real dedication to the knowledge and community of Norotors. I think Steve really hit the high points.  Your build, dedication,  and overall attention to detail is for the lack of a better word, professional.   

In any case, I look forward to meeting you as I come after the exhaust.   I hopefully get to see your FD as well.  Many of us don't get the fortune to meet the people we grow to admire as we admire their cars from an online link.

And yeah, to reaffirm,  very glad you are keeping your car.  Drive it til the wheels fall off, you have more than earned it! 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 26, 2014, 10:35:04 AM
Thanks Josh that means a lot.
All of us are happy to have you here. I've given our mutal friend Mike several e-pats on the back
over the last few months for your aquisition. I even got a sneak peak of your first ride in his LS3 FD ~1/2 a year ago ;)
I really am looking forward to seeing how your build turns out. Your attention to detail and nack for good documentation is rare for any builder and is a skill that will definitely serve you well in life.

Looking forward to meeting you as well. You'll be the second board member that's actually laid eyes on me as I don't get out of MS that often. I'll do my best to have the FD driveable when we get the exhaust delivery setup.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on May 26, 2014, 12:06:14 PM
Thanks Josh that means a lot.
All of us are happy to have you here. I've given our mutal friend Mike several e-pats on the back
over the last few months for your aquisition. I even got a sneak peak of your first ride in his LS3 FD ~1/2 a year ago ;)
I really am looking forward to seeing how your build turns out. Your attention to detail and nack for good documentation is rare for any builder and is a skill that will definitely serve you well in life.

Looking forward to meeting you as well. You'll be the second board member that's actually laid eyes on me as I don't get out of MS that often. I'll do my best to have the FD driveable when we get the exhaust delivery setup.

Lane

Sounds great man!  Keep on keepin on!  As far as not getting out much, I hear that.  Once things get sorted, I will have to pick you up on my way to DGRR 2015.  Should have a few V8 FD's there.   :yay:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 15, 2014, 10:29:09 PM
Got a little break from pumping out AC lines this weekend (welll... I was supposed to make one extended line for a previous customer but my time management got the best of me (Sorry Matt, I'll get it done tomorrow I swear)) and my inlaws came over to help keep Emily company and help her out as she's 9+ months pregnant now. .

Anyway, I spent 8hrs Saturday stripping down my car:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW8611_zps639a2b40.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW8613_zpsf4831c94.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW8614_zps770f1d07.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW8606_zpsa903d626.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW8625_zps62466caf.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW8623_zpsf8362d0b.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW8628_zpsa96160e3.jpg)

So why did I go all Johnny 5 on the rx7? Well, I've lined up another painter and I'm making a mad dash to get the car to him before my girl is born. The painter is 2 hrs south of me so I've got to trailer it down. I figured I'd strip it down as much as possible to help him out. I'm excited about the possibility of working with this painter. I've followed his work for a couple of years and met him a while back when I was doing a 3rd gen swap in my brothers mr2 (my old mr2). Really cool guy and his work is absolutely stellar. He's got a motorcycle and a car to clear out before he can take the rx7, but they are both almost done, so it shouldn't be long.

After that I'm lining up an exhaust and a tune and I should be ready to roll  :drive:

Lane

PS - Ok, who got my Johnny 5 reference without googling?  :yay:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on June 15, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
I'm 42 so I easily remember "Short Circuit" lol
Car looks good already. It's going to look like a full Resto when its done!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 15, 2014, 10:54:43 PM
I'm 42 so I easily remember "Short Circuit" lol
Car looks good already. It's going to look like a full Resto when its done!

I should have known you'd know ya old fart  ;)

Just so the younger generation can be in on the joke:

Short Circuit (5/8) Movie CLIP - Disassembling Frank's Car (1986) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW0V7kZHRSA#ws)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on June 15, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
I got the reference.  I love Short Circuit.   :)

Car should be amazing all finished up.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on June 15, 2014, 11:10:09 PM
Awwwwwwwwwww yea.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on June 15, 2014, 11:12:12 PM
No disassemble #5! My wife calls me Johnny 5 all the time...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 15, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
I'm in good company  :cheers:

I've obviously been numbed to the films popularity. Drop a quote from the movie around here and folks look at you like you've got 2 heads

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on June 18, 2014, 12:08:08 AM
I'm thinking of sliding the door weatherstrip off of the clips, hopefully without tearing.  Use pliers to remove/destroy the clips then replacing it with these ones.

1989 Lincoln and 1997 Ford Expedition Weatherstrip Fastener
http://www.dkhardware.com/product-12169-cp927013-1989-lincoln-and-1997-ford-expedition-weatherstrip-fastener.html?mr:trackingCode=B6CFC30F-CDE0-E111-9B44-001B21BCB944&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=18074697252&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=60258579372&gclid=CMKS46_Ggr8CFQkAvAod1agAMA (http://www.dkhardware.com/product-12169-cp927013-1989-lincoln-and-1997-ford-expedition-weatherstrip-fastener.html?mr:trackingCode=B6CFC30F-CDE0-E111-9B44-001B21BCB944&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=18074697252&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=60258579372&gclid=CMKS46_Ggr8CFQkAvAod1agAMA)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: turbotalon1g on June 18, 2014, 01:46:17 AM
I'm only 29 and I got it. Those wheels are my fav on an FD.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: sunshine on June 20, 2014, 07:02:31 PM
ive seen you all over the forums, and im JUST finding your build tread. insane work man, and your seriously a great help to the rx7 ls community. just about every time i search for something you are the one replying with an answer. lol
btw, johnny 5? lol i must be too young to understand then. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 23, 2014, 08:30:14 AM
Thanks! I try to be helpful around here. Glad you found your way over. Welcome  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: M3 Dan on June 26, 2014, 11:33:57 AM
Got any pics of your old MR2?  I had a 93 turbo for about 10 years around that timeframe, and even went to a birmingham meet or 2!  Small world.

I know you've read it 100 times, but your build is 100% top notch.  you could never pay someone and get that quality work, let alone what it would cost you!  your decision to keep the car is the right one.

Dan
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 26, 2014, 04:55:47 PM
Got any pics of your old MR2?  I had a 93 turbo for about 10 years around that timeframe, and even went to a birmingham meet or 2!  Small world.

I know you've read it 100 times, but your build is 100% top notch.  you could never pay someone and get that quality work, let alone what it would cost you!  your decision to keep the car is the right one.

Dan

Thanks Dan

Your request actually gave me the kick in the pants I needed to post up the last big project I undertook on my mr2.

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=19925.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=19925.0)

Pics galore :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: M3 Dan on June 27, 2014, 12:41:08 PM
Very nice Lane.  I don't remember your car at birmingham, but that's not a surprise given the size of those events!
I drove down a couple years in a row with my turquoise pearl 93T, which went through stages of builds, culminating in a stand-alone, t3/t4, built bottom, etc. with about 350 at the tire.  That's where i learned my lesson on modified car reliability!

Getting on a plane to see my new rx7 tonight, then 900 miles home.  going to be fun!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 27, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
Very nice Lane.  I don't remember your car at birmingham, but that's not a surprise given the size of those events!
I drove down a couple years in a row with my turquoise pearl 93T, which went through stages of builds, culminating in a stand-alone, t3/t4, built bottom, etc. with about 350 at the tire.  That's where i learned my lesson on modified car reliability!

Getting on a plane to see my new rx7 tonight, then 900 miles home.  going to be fun!


The turbo never made it to Birmingham for an event. I took my red 91 NA mr2 to SE2002. It was actually my first car ever and I owned it until I was 21. At SE2002 I was 19 and I only made it to the car show as I didn't figure I needed to embarrass myself at the track ;)
I probably only talked to 2-3 folks there as I was just there to get ideas / inspiration + I was there alone. I remember the car I came to see was Jim Griffin's "Beast"
http://www.mr2beast.com/ (http://www.mr2beast.com/)
It didn't disappoint :D

My red mr2 never really stood out. It was just there while I enjoyed walking around and looked at the other cars. Here's what it looked like back then:

(http://www.halfspec.com/images/Galleries/NA/photos/MVC-818S.JPG)
(http://www.halfspec.com/images/Galleries/NA/photos/leftquarterear.JPG)

Good times :)

Congrats on your move to the RX7 world. Drive safe!  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: M3 Dan on June 27, 2014, 02:12:07 PM
Jim gave me a ride in that beast one year, it was very impressive!  i remember the power, but mostly i remember how it had no squeak or rattle, and looked like he had bought it brand new the day before.  it was perfect. 

that was before the TMIC setup and wrx scoop on the trunk...

do you remember seeing a red SC MKI with a 3sgte?  you would have known if you had been at the track.  he's local to me, good friend.  still has the car, which is one of the scariest cars i've ever driven.

anyway, thanks!  I'm looking forward to the trip.
Dan
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 27, 2014, 02:19:17 PM
Jim gave me a ride in that beast one year, it was very impressive!  i remember the power, but mostly i remember how it had no squeak or rattle, and looked like he had bought it brand new the day before.  it was perfect. 

that was before the TMIC setup and wrx scoop on the trunk...

do you remember seeing a red SC MKI with a 3sgte?  you would have known if you had been at the track.  he's local to me, good friend.  still has the car, which is one of the scariest cars i've ever driven.

anyway, thanks!  I'm looking forward to the trip.
Dan

Haha! That's awesome! I never got a ride in the beast! Luuuckkyy! I just drooled over it on the concourse. I remember he was beside another wild mkII that was dark blue with vertical white stripes and crazy rear wheel flares.

The only MK1 that sticks in my brain from that event was a supercharged black MK1. I remember it because it was the cleanest mk1 I'd ever seen. It literally looked like it had rolled off the factory floor.

I'm kicking myself right now because I probably took 100 pictures of the car show and probably got every car in the pics. It was all film back then and even though I kept the pictures for years, I have a sneaking suspicion that they got tossed during one of the moves I've made over the last few years :(

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 04, 2014, 11:04:46 AM
I got my baby girl at 12:52pm on July 3rd after only ~6hrs of labor, however is wasnt as simple as it sounds. At 12 the head nurse discovered that Ava was coming down her birth canal face first instead of the top of her head coming first. It's called face presentation and apparently only happens to 0.2% of births.

http://m.birth.com.au/face-presentations/about-face-presentations?p=2#A2H (http://m.birth.com.au/face-presentations/about-face-presentations?p=2#A2H)

She couldn't be delivered that way and the doctors couldn't reposition her, so we changed plans to a c-section. 30 minutes later I had my daughter in my arms!

Both mom and baby are doing well. Emily has some tough recovery to get through but she's toughing it out like a champ so far.

Great day and the start of a new life  :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on July 04, 2014, 02:49:25 PM
Awesome.  Congrats man.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on July 04, 2014, 10:02:40 PM
Congrats!

No more sleep for you, but its all worth it  ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 05, 2014, 02:17:51 AM
Congrats!

We had a similar labor and c-section.    Recovery took a few extra days but wasn't too big a deal.   :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on July 05, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Congrats. Welcome to the club.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: UH-60Pilot on July 05, 2014, 09:38:30 PM
congrats! I have two young girls and the RX7 never gets the attention anymore.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on July 06, 2014, 03:56:37 AM
Heyyyy congratulations!

I love how you had to throw in a link about face presentation hahaha. Always educating us  :yay:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: kinger on July 07, 2014, 10:03:09 AM
Congratulations!  I have two young girls (3 and 6mos) and its more work then I ever imagined but worth it.  Say bye to sleep, free time, and car modding for about the next 18-20 months.  I am still searching for a RX7 to keep my sanity to much estrogen in the house now.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 08, 2014, 06:07:15 PM
Thanks guys. It's been a very rewarding experience so far. We were released from the hospital on Sunday July 5th. I've had to take care of Ava and Emily non-stop as Emily is recovering from her c-section limiting her only being able to help feed her. I'm headed back to work tomorrow as Emily's folks are coming back to help through the rest of the week. Here's a picture of Ava from the hospital soon after birth:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Ava%20Grace/_GJW8809_zpse74933eb.jpg)

Enjoying life and still getting stuff done. I'm planning on getting my rx7 to my painter this weekend :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Sho Amo on July 08, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
My daughter's name is Ava too! Congrats.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on July 08, 2014, 10:35:43 PM
Awesome! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on July 08, 2014, 10:45:23 PM
Happy for you both!
Thanks for the pic.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 08, 2014, 10:59:13 PM
Thanks for the pic.

Thanks for the camera  :yay:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: frijolee on July 08, 2014, 11:07:54 PM
Congrats Lane!  Little girls are awesome.  Now you get to pick up all the car related books to read to her. 

Two of my favorites:  Little Blue Truck, and The Little Red Racing Car.  Similar title, two completely different books.

Do you need any little girl clothes?  We finally make the call that we're done at 2 of them.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AKINA FC on July 09, 2014, 03:40:36 PM
Congrats Lane!! :cheers: I remember those days, seem so long ago  :(
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: UH-60Pilot on July 09, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
Congrats Lane!  Little girls are awesome.  Now you get to pick up all the car related books to read to her. 

Two of my favorites:  Little Blue Truck, and The Little Red Racing Car.  Similar title, two completely different books.

Do you need any little girl clothes?  We finally make the call that we're done at 2 of them.

I've read Little Blue truck a hundred times. Good book, for kids.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 11, 2014, 02:49:23 PM
Thanks again guys. I really appreciate the book suggestions too. Books were a big part of my early childhood and my mom even read us classic novels all the way through middle school. Hoping to keep up the tradition :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on July 11, 2014, 03:37:36 PM
I loved "Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel"
according to my mom
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 11, 2014, 03:56:41 PM
Some post baby updates that are car related :D

First off, I've lined up a truck and trailer to get my currently disassembled rx7 to my painter 2 hours away. This will be happening this Monday July 14th. After that it'll be up to him to make it pretty.

Secondly I had a member PM me earlier today asking for a status update on my master cylinder replacement. This work was completed a couple of weeks ago but I haven't had a chance to document it. Rather than reply to his PM individually I decided to get off my ass and do it properly.
For reference, this idea came from this thread:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=19151.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=19151.0)

My reasoning for the thread above is that I really don't like the Wilwood MC option for LSX swaps. I don't like that there are countless stories of failure, I don't like that it's not clocked right for RX7's and it requires a crazy stupid adapter from hinson to get it right, I don't like that it's huge (in a place where space is an expensive commodity), I don't like that you have to adapt the rod to the FD's clevis (or tap the FD's clevis), and I don't like that it's expensive.

Before I get to it I just wanted to be clear that this is NOT a drop in replacement. I don't think that was expressed very well in the thread above so I wanted that to by crystal clear so no-one walked away from this with illusions of a plug and play part.

Finally, I went about this conversion without welding ANYTHING. Greg/Pez suggested welding the stock FD clevis to the M8x1.0 coupling nut. In retrospect that's the way to do it. Doing it my way required 3 painful adjustments to get my clutch pedal throw in its sweet spot.

With that being said, here's the part list:

$30.00 - Beck Arnley 072-8657 Clutch Master Cylinder - Amazon.com
$6.00   - Earl's 997517ERL Banjo Bolt with crush washers - Amazon.com
$10.00 - Earl's 997641 Steel -4 AN Banjo Adapter (some folks may need -3 AN adapter based on what you used for your clutch line) - Amazon.com
$3.54  - Metric Class 5.8 Zinc-Plated Steel Coupling Nut, M8 Screw Size, 1.25 mm Pitch, 38MM Length, 16MM Width - 93355A105 - Mcmastercarr
$9.60  - 18-8 Stainless Steel Male-Male Thread Adapter, M8 X 1.25, 12.7 mm L, M8 X 1.0, 12.7MM L, 13MM Hex - 95316A880 - Mcmastercarr (only needed if you're not welding)
$13.78 - High-Strength Zinc Yellow-Chromate Plated Cap Screw, Class 10.9 Steel, M8 Full Thread, Pitch: 1.25, 50MM LG (25 pack) - 90854A178 - Mcmastercarr
$8.45 - Class 8 Steel Nylon-Insert Hex Flange Locknut, Zinc-plated, M8 Size, 1.25mm Pitch, 13mm W, 11.1mm H (100 pack) - 92461A400 - Mcmastercarr

Total = $81.37 and if you've got boxes full of hardware you can probably get the cost down to $60 and not have to order 121 extra nuts & bolts from mcmaster carr

So what makes the Land Cruiser MC so great? Well, for starters, it's only going to cost $30 to replace if you ever have it die on you. That's $30 with a brand new reservoir and cap. It's small, it's clocked right, it's an OEM grade part with the reliability of a factory MC.

Here's what's challenging about swapping one of these in.

1. Even though the mounting ears are clocked right, the mounting holes are not spaced for a RX7. It requires that you get out your dremel and elongate the holes (pics below).
2. I had to modify my clutch pedal sheet metal with a dremel so that the inner section of the MC's body could slide through (pics below)
Additionally, if you don't weld the coupling nut to the FD's clevis you'll face the following challenges as well:
3. The coupling nut has to be shortened
4. The M8x1.0 leg of the male-to-male thread adapter has to be shortened
5. The MC rod has to be shortened

Here's what we're dealing with:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/lcmc1_zpsdd02b6f2.jpg)

Just ignore the Hinson adapter crossed out in red. It somehow jumped into the picture even though it's not required. Also, in the pic above, the nut circled in green came with the MC and I simply screwed it all the way up on the rod (closest point of the rod to the MC) and red loc tite'd it so I'd have a nut to turn the rod for clutch adjustments (this is something else Greg/Pez recommended welding, but I think red loc-tite is fine for this purpose).
One thing that is not shown in the pic above is that if you are not welding the female coupler directly to the FD's clutch pedal clevis, you'll have to chop ~1/4" off of the end of the MC's rod.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/lcmc2_zps7423d39a.jpg)
Here's one of the tricker parts for the way I did it (no welding). The pic above shows how I adapted the LandCruiser's M8x1.25 rod to the FD's M8x1.0 clevis. I used a M8x1.25 female coupler and a M8x1.25-to-M8x1.0 male-to-male adapter. This will go together exactly how it shows in the pic above and it'll thread right onto the LandCruiser MC rod. The problem is that it will end up too long for the FD's pedal throw. That's where the little cut pieces below the adapted piece come into place. This pic was taken 1/2 way though the adjustment process. The blocks of red indicate that I SHOULD have cut more off the respective female coupler and the male-to-male adapter (M8x1.25 side). The red blocks show that I should have doubled what I originally trimmed.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/lcmc3_zpsff7a3572.jpg)
This pic shows how I elongated the MC's mounting holes with a dremel. You can get away with less trimming than I did.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/lcmc4_zpsa91c8ada.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/lcmc5_zpsebe9b12e.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/lcmc6_zps698105cf.jpg)

The three pics above show the last modification I had to make. It shows the clutch pedal assembly before and after a quick dremel trim. The third picture shows how the trim created additional clearance so that the LandCruiser MC can fit through and into the pedal assembly.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/lcmc7_zps2a39715f.jpg)

That's pretty much it. For me it was a 2 weekend ordeal because I chose to try and do this without welding.
It's been working like a champ. After adjusting the clutch pedal throw it feels perfect and works like it was put on at the factory.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: gnictry on July 11, 2014, 05:00:39 PM
Congrats Lane!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 16, 2014, 10:16:12 AM
(http://www.halfspec.com/downloads/paint-take2.jpg)

Good News Everyone (take 2)!
3 years after taking my car to be painted originally (page 12) with disastrous results (page 18) I've finally picked myself back up and am taking another swing at getting the rx7 painted.

On Monday I loaded up the RX7 and took a trip to hand it over to my new painter.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/_GJW8917_zps08e4596b.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/_GJW8920_zps495fd968.jpg)

The new painter is a friend of mine I met when I sold him my brother's 3SGTE longblock. 2 years ago he stopped by my house to pickup the longblock and looked my rx7 over. At the time I didn't know he was quite a talented painter but I soon found out he was the real article. After reading up on his mr2's restoration, I was sold:
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=440169 (http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=440169)
I actually had him lined up to paint the car around Christmas 2013, but had to back out when I changed my goals and put the car up for sale. Luckily there were no bridges burned and he agreed to take on the project this year.

I drove the RX7 down to Jackson on Monday and spent some time going over all the details of the job. His theory on what happened to my paint in 2011's paint job was that the painter hit the car with really 'wet' (I.E., solvent heavy) paint which dissolved some of the (many) coats of paint below it which rippled when drying. I believe that's exactly what happened.

The plan right now is to strip everything down to the metal and repaint the car from scratch.

As I headed home I got a string of txt messages showing progress already being made:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140714_211702_zps3a3cefe0.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140714_222145_zpsca718806.jpeg)
From the hatch. John said it had 5 independent coats of paint in some places!!!  :o

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140714_215012_zps2523f115.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140714_222925_zps90430773.jpeg)
More of the hatch getting stripped

Yesterday's (Tuesday's) progress:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140715_194203_zpse5d63f6e.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140715_194148_zps4ce96e0d.jpeg)
John said the fender's weren't that bad. They only had 2 coats of paint on them.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140715_204004_zpsbb9d0bcc.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140715_203827_zps942ff06d.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140715_203809_zpsfba7eda0.jpeg)
Unfortunately, we ran into a little snag Tuesday night. John found that when the last shop reinstalled my rear window they ignored some rust around the window support / seal area and simply caulked over it with eurothane. The plan is to cut out the window again and repair the rust before reinstalling the window.

All-in-all I feel like my car is finally in a true professional's hands and couldn't be happier with the quick progress that has been made over 2 days!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 16, 2014, 10:38:08 AM
Congrats!  I know that's been driving you crazy for a long time.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on July 16, 2014, 10:46:18 AM
Can't wait to see it finished!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 17, 2014, 02:22:06 PM
Thanks guys! This is definitely been the biggest project's motivation blows I've experienced so it'll be huge once I get over this hump.  :bacon:

Paint update

Got some good news from John. His paint prep supplier let him know that his sandpaper is around 70% off so I'm paying ~$15 for packs of sandpaper that would normally cost $40/$50!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140716_190808_zpse572f496.jpeg)

John also sent me the pic above showing how the front of my hood originally had rock chips in it and the chips were simply filled-in instead of being repaired properly.

Since the last post we've decided that we definitely need to pull the rear glass for the work that needs to be done on the hatch. Among the work already scheduled, John talked to me earlier today reccomending that he remove the "glue" the previous body shop used to fill my spoiler holes and weld the holes shut. I had noticed that the filled holes could be seen through the paint at the right angle and it was one of the things I mentioned when dropping off the car. Of course, I'm all about getting this done the right way and I know that filling the holes with metal will allow for seamless fill so I told John to go for it.

Today John ordered supplies so he can really get to work. By my count he's using 3 different primers. One is an epoxy primer that dries ultra hard and is more difficult to work with but he says its worth it as it doesn't shrink and helps battle sand scratches coming back after the paint cures. He also ordered high build primer as well as primer with a flex agent added for painting the bumpers. He also got a ton of sandpaper and a lot of masking supplies.

A side project I'm working on is replacing my door jamb vehicle information sticker / VIN sticker. It's a sticky subject, but I'm trying to get it done because after being masked for 4 coats of paint and receiving a nice gash along the VIN barcode the original sticker is looking rough. Unfortunately Mazda doesn't offer that sticker anymore (Yes, I called Ray), so I got in touch with http://www.ecsvin.com/ (http://www.ecsvin.com/) which claims to reproduce legal factory identical vin stickers. They're steep (really steep), but the devil is in the details so I'm putting an order in today. We'll see how it turns out.

Still crazy excited about this. It's like Christmas every time John sends me an update on his work.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: scuter83 on July 17, 2014, 03:53:50 PM
I'd be excited too!!  Sounds like it is gonna be a clean looking car when you get it back.  My paint/body is so F'd I  guess I am lucky that just trying to buff it is good enough for me.  Too cheap to pay for the actual body work it would take.

I'm interested in the tuning after you get it back.  I know you got some things changed when you were dealing with MAF issues, but curious how it will run when all back together.....Should be pretty mean.

-Scott
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on July 17, 2014, 05:45:05 PM
Lookin hella good man!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on July 17, 2014, 06:21:29 PM
Sounds like the primers he's using are the right ones, which shows he's paying attention.  I've heard nothing but good things about epoxy primer over bare metal.  Then you use the high build stuff since it sands easy.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on July 17, 2014, 06:25:23 PM
As usual, done right. Staying tuned. A job like that can't be cheap.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 18, 2014, 09:20:45 AM
Thanks guys. Definitely looking forward to getting past this and enjoying my new paint :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_135006_zpsb197e931.jpeg)
Supplies from yesterday

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_181100_zps6b24b9f3.jpeg)
Uh oh! Started work on the hood and found adhesion problems with the newer layers of paint. It was bad enough that they were peeling off!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_183011_zpsef55faae.jpeg)
Picking it off in flakes

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_183544_zps792dffea.jpeg)
Was able to peel the center of the hood off in ~5minutes.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_181633_zps3e593046.jpeg)
John's theory for the adhesion problems is that the last shop primed the hood then painted it with a thin base coat apparently with the intention of laying down a heavier coat later. Well the heavier coat didn't come quick enough (we estimate a couple of days) and it missed its window to chemically bond to the other layer of paint. In fact, the first layer seems to have cured well enough that the orange peel could be seen when peeling off the top layer.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_194515_zpsc351311e.jpeg)
Muhahaha! Slaaave labor  :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_210502_zps489fbec7.jpeg)
Nekked

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140717_210429_zps296b92f0.jpeg)
Yes sir! I am definitely feeling overhauled at the moment  :drive:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 18, 2014, 09:58:01 AM
Wow, what a freaking mess.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 18, 2014, 10:41:49 AM
Wow, what a freaking mess.

You said it! Over the years I've considered taking a shot at doing this myself. After seeing what John is having to deal with I'm thanking my lucky stars I didn't get involved. I definitely wouldn't have known what to do if I ran into 1/2 of this stuff.

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Cman on July 18, 2014, 10:44:35 AM
oooooo she should be wearing a mask...and little else
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on July 18, 2014, 11:04:51 AM
One question- Why didn't you get it media blasted?

This is a good lesson to all, you don't wnat to keep adding layers of paint..
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 18, 2014, 11:33:42 AM
One question- Why didn't you get it media blasted?

This is a good lesson to all, you don't wnat to keep adding layers of paint..

Primarily it's the painter's preference. I just let him take the reigns and didn't insist on any one way of doing it.
However, I think curiosity may be factoring in as the secondary reason. Both John and I are very curious as to what this car's been through paint wise. Stripping it back a layer at a time has let us understand a lot already.
Additionally, John, like myself seems to really enjoy the documenting and teaching side of things. I'm relaying a lot of what I'm getting over email/txt from him to this board, but it's only 1/2 of what he's sent to me.  To me, that kind of feedback is priceless.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on July 18, 2014, 05:11:41 PM
Am I the only one that is impressed a paint guy:
1) Has a cute chick that's willing to do work and be photographed, and
2) Knows how to spell and legibly write "overhauled"?

Maybe my view of paint/body guys is skewed being in southern CA lol.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 18, 2014, 05:26:12 PM
Am I the only one that is impressed a paint guy:

NO. This level of professionalism is the highest I have ever experienced in MS over the 8 years I've been here. That's not to trash talk MS. I'm simply stating it's hard to find this level of work anywhere.

More Paint Updates

I've fully disclosed the few body issues my car has to John, including my hood drop on an allen key that was sticking out of my FPR, the mysterious Samberg hood gap, and the front of the doors slightly rubbing the back of my fenders when opening the doors. He's taking it in stride and feels like it's all something that can be set right.

John is also going to tint my car while he's got it. I'm going legal because I've had illegal tint in the past and it's just too big of a hassle with annual state inspections. One thing we're discussing is putting UV / Heat film on the front windshield (since it's going to be replaced anyway). Neither one of us have worked with this type of film before but we've both heard great things about it and considering the RX7 interior ages quickly I'll take any extra reduction in heat and UV I can get. Signed up!

We also talked and he's going to be repainting the underside of my hood and hatch to match the new paint. Additionally, he's going to repaint my door jambs. Partly because the paint we're going with is as jet black as we can find and most likely won't match the old paint but also because I suspect the jambs are going to peel just like the hood did simply because I've already had 2 or 3 spots peel  already >:(

Finally, in addition to welding the hatch spoiler holes shut, John has a buddy that specializes in aluminum radiator repair and he's agreed to weld up my windshield wiper hole squirters in my hood! These were originally glued up by the painter here in Starkville and we were going to leave them as-is because of the aluminum hood, but it irked John so bad he called around until he got someone who was confident they could do it right  :bacon: :bacon: :bacon:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 18, 2014, 06:27:29 PM
This is moving toward the best LS FD in existence quickly.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: LNF_AJ on July 20, 2014, 01:04:23 PM
Glad to see you're getting the body work figured out.  I've gotta say when I paint my car again it's getting blasted. Stripping it down the bare metal is about the only way you can be certain to not have any issues with adhesion and previous coatings.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on July 21, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
Its great to finally see someone else take as much pride in the work being done on this car as you have.  With your attention to detail, anything less than stripping this car to its metal would have been an insult to the rest of the build.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: hybrid10 on July 22, 2014, 03:18:43 PM
Hey guys, I'm John... the painter. I'll be glad to answer any questions to the best of my knowledge. 
I'll try to post the pic my "boo" wearing the mask next time. :p.
Also, I grew up with a guy that started a mobile media blasting company and I had him look at the car for a quote. There is a few issues I have with media blasting and painting. 1. You are blasting crushed glass into everyour part of the car like it or not. That crushed glass won't show back up till its time to paint and it ends up in the paint.2. It's a huge mess, bigger than what I'm dealing with now, but yes it will get it down to bare metal. 3. The car still has to be sanded afterwards for me to be comfortable with it.4. It's not just crushed glass in most cases there is some chemical added for rust prevention. This chemical has to be removed as it doesn't agree with most paints, if you sand it without neutralizing the chemical you just push the chemicals into the the metal, embedding it into the metal to come out on a hot day and cause the paint to peel. 5. Not all pieces can be media blasted.6. Blasting the car with crushed media builds alot of heat in the panels and you risk creating waves or warpage all over the car that I would then have to sort out.... all of this is lessons I've learned from experience.  I call them "bought lessons". My blasting buddy assured me it was easy to neutralize and get paint to stick. However it's not something I want to risk on this car or anyone's car for that matter unless I've tried it and seen the proof. I've seen too many cars peel for that very reason. Imo it just wasn't worth the risk or the mess for that matter.  Alot of shops will have cars blasted and I'm sure have a formula or order of operations to insure no problems. To me it's just more risk. For the price and time it takes to sand it all off it isn't much different and I will see any and all problems in the metal or paint as I remove it...

Hopefully that all makes sense.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: hybrid10 on July 22, 2014, 03:34:39 PM
I also didn't want to blast the whole car and have to worry about getting all the bare metal treated or covered at one time.because if you start rushing to get it all covered back up the chances of mistakes are higher. On bigger jobs like this it is easier and less overwhelming to handle it a panel at a time.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on July 22, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
Hey guys, I'm John... the painter. I'll be glad to answer any questions to the best of my knowledge. 
I'll try to post the pic my "boo" wearing the mask next time. :p.
Also, I grew up with a guy that started a mobile media blasting company and I had him look at the car for a quote. There is a few issues I have with media blasting and painting. 1. You are blasting crushed glass into everyour part of the car like it or not. That crushed glass won't show back up till its time to paint and it ends up in the paint.2. It's a huge mess, bigger than what I'm dealing with now, but yes it will get it down to bare metal. 3. The car still has to be sanded afterwards for me to be comfortable with it.4. It's not just crushed glass in most cases there is some chemical added for rust prevention. This chemical has to be removed as it doesn't agree with most paints, if you sand it without neutralizing the chemical you just push the chemicals into the the metal, embedding it into the metal to come out on a hot day and cause the paint to peel. 5. Not all pieces can be media blasted.6. Blasting the car with crushed media builds alot of heat in the panels and you risk creating waves or warpage all over the car that I would then have to sort out.... all of this is lessons I've learned from experience.  I call them "bought lessons". My blasting buddy assured me it was easy to neutralize and get paint to stick. However it's not something I want to risk on this car or anyone's car for that matter unless I've tried it and seen the proof. I've seen too many cars peel for that very reason. Imo it just wasn't worth the risk or the mess for that matter.  Alot of shops will have cars blasted and I'm sure have a formula or order of operations to insure no problems. To me it's just more risk. For the price and time it takes to sand it all off it isn't much different and I will see any and all problems in the metal or paint as I remove it...

Hopefully that all makes sense.



Great information! Thank you.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on July 22, 2014, 06:38:20 PM
I hear ya with the media blasting. The PO on my car had it media blasted, and to this day I am finding whitish powder everywhere. Also with the quick paint job ( I assume I have no real idea about painting) there is BIG cracking in the paint. In the door jams on the fiberglass front clip and some flaking in some hard to reach places like  behind the hood in front of the windshield.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: hybrid10 on July 22, 2014, 07:04:24 PM
I hear ya with the media blasting. The PO on my car had it media blasted, and to this day I am finding whitish powder everywhere. Also with the quick paint job ( I assume I have no real idea about painting) there is BIG cracking in the paint. In the door jams on the fiberglass front clip and some flaking in some hard to reach places like  behind the hood in front of the windshield.

Yup its a huge mess. Even more than sanding.  Lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 23, 2014, 09:50:13 AM
Oh oh! John's found his way over  :D

Driver's side fender has been stripped:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140721_202317_zps6cd5983f.jpeg)

Its looking like the fenders, hood, and hatch will see primer pretty soon. John is just waiting to get some help cutting out the hatch glass as well as welding shut the holes in the hatch and hood.

Lane

PS
John made the comment the other day that my car will probably see a 20lb weight reduction once all the old paint comes off lol!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 23, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
LOL, the stripped picture looks like it's been painted camo.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 24, 2014, 11:00:55 AM
Started out last night's update with a tense moment. John had a glass expert buddy stop by and start the process of cutting out the windshield and hatch glass. Now, I've already had my hatch glass broken once during an attempt at removal by an 'expert' and I've read a LOT of stories about the hatch glass just breaking to pieces when attempting to remove it, so I didn't have a lot of faith that he'd be able to get it out. In fact John and I went ahead and priced out a new window (dealer only) which runs in the upper $400s and felt like an imminent purchase for me.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_175148_zpsc5ffd69c.jpeg)
Crazy man!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_175629_zpsab0e4647.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_175620_zps98137b56.jpeg)
Drama over! They pulled it off! I was literally jumping up and down when I got this text  :yay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_183144_zps3a18baa6.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_183157_zps4df276b3.jpeg)
These pics show some of the repair work John will be making. It shows the old and new eurothane and how the rust started to develop. I don't know if I've mentioned it but the last shop apparently broke my rear hatch, replaced it, and didn't mention it to me. The only way I knew about it is because I found glass rattling around in my hatch. Unfortunately they didn't clean up some surface rust around the window mount and eurothaned over it making a nice little present to find later. Thankfully John is a perfectionist and is going to make sure the window supports are repaired and sealed against future corrosion

We discovered some other not so nice stuff when pulling the front windshield:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_184126_zps5a4c8b7f.jpeg)
The windshield was installed too low and was basically resting on the firewall cowl panel. They had also broken and re-glued the window 'stops' so that's something I'll be ordering here shortly. For those of you who don't already know, I've been driving with a broken windshield ever since I picked up the roller 5 years ago. It was a big circular baseball looking crack near the center of the windshield. It'll be nice driving the car with a brand new one :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_183533_zps7b3b2c34.jpeg)
And another picture of the rust on the front windshield post. This will receive the same treatment as the rear window supports  :bacon:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_190109_zps7b2b87a3.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_190121_zps8b8c3b64.jpeg)
Popping out the glue used to fill the hatch holes

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_190114_zpsdd1db73e.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_190029_zps316b10aa.jpeg)
A little bit of rust around the hatch holes that will be taken care of before welding them shut and repainting

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_211432_zps2d1c0267.jpeg)
Getting the steel and aluminum patch plates ready for welding shut the holes on my hatch and hood.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_210552_zpsb3f74ace.jpeg)
Mocked up aluminum patch plate on the hood's windshield squirter hole.

John's planning on dropping my hood off today to have the windshield squirter holes welded shut.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 25, 2014, 08:13:33 AM
Top quality work!   I'm incredibly NOT looking forward to rust repair/body work when I start the Mustang, haha.

I dig all the progress pictures, it's fun to watch stuff come together.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 28, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140725_130849_zps3c7fea6d.jpeg)
Got the hood's windshield squirters welded up on Friday. The welder did a great job as there was zero warping and he left us a good bit of metal to work with so we could grind it down to the surface of the hood.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140725_190005_2_zps030cc987.jpeg)
Ground down  :o

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140725_201428_2_zps81e2224f.jpeg)
Whaaaaaat?

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140725_212152_2_zps0a4df732.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140725_212205_2_zps94b96c83.jpeg)
Epoxy primed first with a high build primer next.

"The next step with these pieces is to fix any dings or waves with a thin lightweight filler then put 2 or 3 heavy coats of the high build primer. After that it's time to block sand and paint them."

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AKINA FC on July 28, 2014, 10:44:27 AM
Awesome Lane, this thing is gonna look great! :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on July 28, 2014, 02:17:34 PM
Top quality work.     Critical for a black car to look right though.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 30, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
Thanks Blake & Erik  :cheers:

John mocked up the fenders and hood to pre-align everything before spending more time on finishing the panels. The idea being that its easier to make changes now vs after the panel is painted:


Using a drill bit to get the door gaps uniform around each door. John also adjusted the doors to their catches so that they close with a touch :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_182535_zpsfd398834.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_191836_zps4af8d6c7.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_184408_zps363a8529.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_184359_zps54a6178d.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_182610_zpsdf4532c4.jpeg)

Working with the hood to get it to sit down on the driver's side fender interface. This was something I'm pretty sure I did when my car kicked out the hood support while cranking and the hood landed on an allen wrench poking up out of the FPR.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_192054_zps07375fa2.jpeg)
Before

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_192804_zps7e078e32.jpeg)
After

Working on getting the hood centered up:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_202852_zpsfb08ccd9.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_202930_zpsffaf7fb6.jpeg)
Before

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_221905_zpsc6e7ee79.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_221912_zpscdda0f00.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_221956_zps40a11d93.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140729_221945_zps20bedf8f.jpeg)
After

The panel alignment is now better than its ever been and I am seriously pumped up about it!!!  :bacon:

John has a lot more he can do but I'm trying to work out a trip down to Jackson so I can deliver a load of parts for him to work with (namely my front bumper). Hoping I can do it before the week is over as I'm dying to see what he can do with the samberg hood gap :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: M3 Dan on July 31, 2014, 01:28:21 PM
Lookin great Lane! 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on July 31, 2014, 07:06:16 PM
Looks awesome!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on August 01, 2014, 12:45:29 AM
This guy can do my car next. Top quality work! Hard to find for sure.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 01, 2014, 09:45:25 AM
Lots of stuff has happened over the last couple of days.

After seeing the progress John was making I had to see it with my own eyes so I drove down to Jackson Wednesday night after work. Admittedly the trip wasn't just about seeing the work in person. I had a car full of parts to take with my including my front bumper. I didn't take the bumper with me the first time because I figured it was painted well enough and black is black is black is black right? Well, John let me know that blacks can vary a lot more than I first thought so we decided to paint it as well. In addition I was eager to see John work some his magic to see if he could solve the Samberg gap :D

Here's the bumper on and after some adjustments by John. At this point I don't think he'd modified anything but the Samberg radiator cover was not installed:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_182028_zpsyh8tvsiw.jpeg)

John discovered that I hadn't been using a bumper support under the plate area of the bumper (top of the main 'mouth' of the bumper) which bolts the bumper skin up to the crash bar:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_183647_zpsquqckowg.jpeg)
Bolting it in helped raise the center of the bumper slightly.

This is where things get interesting. After quite a bit of conversation on the phone and checking for parts availibility I gave John the go-ahead to modify any of the bumper support or the Samberg plate according to what he thought would serve us best. My thinking was that I could always trade in for a rev3 Samberg plate and the bumper support pieces are still available at Mazda so the risk was minimal.
John explained that the plate should not press on the bumper structure AT ALL! Any place the plate makes contact would get pushed down when the plate was tightened down which in turn pushes the middle of the bumper down and opens a gap between it and the hood. What this ended up translating to is that any metal support directly underneath the samberg plate that made contact with the plate had to go.

After some initial trimming. Checking the plate's fit without being bolted in
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_192042_zpsdkqb8n3q.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_194109_2_zpslqodgkgo.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_194114_2_zpsjdpvrmcs.jpeg)

After seeing positive results, John finalized the trimming. This is what he was left with and is the money shot a think at least a few of y'all will be interested in ;)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_195718_2_zpsx6vhb8kw.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_195707_2_zps31gstrz4.jpeg)

Before I show you the final results, one last thing came up that was an extra bonus fix. I had noticed over the last year that my bumper tended to rise ever so slightly right by the headlight buckets. This caused the Samberg gap problem to look even worse because on top of the center gap, the edges of my hood appeared to dip down at the corners right by the headlights. I figured this was just the way the bumpers on RX7s were designed and that my hood was off. Turns out that my 93 bumper support bar was to blame. Back when I got my 99 bumper I decided to mod my 93 bumper support bar to clear the new 99 lights. That's all I'd ever heard about as far as mods needed to make the 99 bumper fit correctly. Well, that didn't turn out to be the case. John found that the bumper support also had to be cut on the top ridge where the cover supports meet the support bar (right by the headlight buckets). The unmodified section of bumper support actually pushed the bumper cover up at the edges causing the bumper to rise as it got close to the headlights.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_201355_zpsdfw3irot.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_201407_zpsdyxd3csd.jpeg)

Trimming the bumper support allowed the cover to lay down flat and the results, along with the fixes above are astounding  :yay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_194124_zpsq6jltxef.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_194647_zps3ryaizy4.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140731_194255_zpsgzyierrl.jpeg)

Happy guy here  :bacon:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on August 01, 2014, 10:15:52 AM
That looks great!    Amazing what the detail work can do for a car;   it's all about getting those little things right.

Justin might be interested to know what all was tweaked as well.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on August 01, 2014, 10:34:16 AM
This is what sets cars apart when you look at them.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on August 01, 2014, 10:37:54 AM
I really want to see the final results of all this, it really would be the icing on top of the rest of your build
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on August 01, 2014, 12:03:58 PM
I'm so impressed with this guy. Love the hood fitment problems he managed to solve.
Pure work ethic, artistry and attention to detail that sets this guy apart.

Any idea when it will be done?
I should schedule trip to come photograph some cars in Mississippi...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on August 01, 2014, 01:11:15 PM
I should schedule a trip to drop my car off with him

 8)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: hybrid10 on August 01, 2014, 01:25:03 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys. I told Lane on the phone that I had figured out the hood gap problem and that I refuse to let it beat me. Lol.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: UH-60Pilot on August 01, 2014, 09:12:10 PM
Wow. can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 04, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
Quick update. John worked on the hatch last Friday:

Welding up holes. This is the rear wiper hole
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140801_185903_zps6z0j5ppg.jpeg)

No more holes!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140801_192313_zpsi9sdcxjv.jpeg)

Grinding out the surface rust that accumulated after the last improper window installation. The rust was located along the rear hatch window seat

Before
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_183144_zps3a18baa6.jpeg)
After
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140801_194730_zpsjn9tcxj1.jpeg)

Before
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140723_183157_zps4df276b3.jpeg)
After
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140801_194746_zpsow5ocrzm.jpeg)

Should be getting pretty close to sealing up the hatch. I haven't heard John's plans for it.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on August 04, 2014, 12:36:08 PM
What does work of this level cost?  The attention to detail cannot come cheap  :chug:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 04, 2014, 12:41:17 PM
What does work of this level cost?  The attention to detail cannot come cheap  :chug:

Its more affordable than you'd think but you'd have to talk to Josh about the specifics as his pricing varies on the project. I do know he's got at least one other rx7 owner from this site in line to get their car painted after mine, so it's not just me that thinks the price he charges for this level of work is a bargain  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 05, 2014, 08:31:43 AM
As expected John got the hatch all sealed and primed yesterday:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140804_191502_zpsg2ut8ck8.jpeg)

 :o

He also spent some time looking for low spots. Here it's seen with its guide coat on:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140804_192018_zpserwydkp1.jpeg)

Check out the homemade sanding block! I remember reading from John's mr2 thread that he uses paint stirring sticks padded with velcro (just the looped side to make a soft surface) then wraps it with sandpaper. It's a technique I've only seen a few times and it's always been associated with guys at the top of the paint biz.

And here are some of the resulting dings showing their ugly heads after blocking the guide coat:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140804_193118_zpsujobttn0.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140804_193112_zpsca8higkj.jpeg)

This was somewhat expected on this side especially. The fender was actually dropped by my Dad the day we trucked the rx7 down to Jackson  :( I saw it happen through my garage window. Something between the truck and the trailer snagged his pants and he went down harder than any flimsy fender deserves haha. It ended up scraping the paint down to the metal in some spots and I expect it was slightly deformed, but John got it looking amazing despite the drop and previous shoddy work.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on August 05, 2014, 10:06:26 PM
The fender was actually dropped by my Dad the day we trucked the rx7 down to Jackson  :( I saw it happen through my garage window. Something between the truck and the trailer snagged his pants and he went down harder than any flimsy fender deserves haha. It ended up scraping the paint down to the metal in some spots and I expect it was slightly deformed, but John got it looking amazing despite the drop and previous shoddy work.

Lane

And someone told me your dad muttered something about scratching his his car with your bike handlebar when you were 9 and that now you were even.

At least that's the rumor...

Like the updates.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 06, 2014, 08:56:39 AM
And someone told me your dad muttered something about scratching his his car with your bike handlebar when you were 9 and that now you were even.

Haha! Lies!!!

Hatch update from last night:

Blocking the guide coat:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140805_185910_zpsgaocxqr7.jpeg)

Roughing the welded metal for filler:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140805_193126_zpsbok0lcql.jpeg)

Skimming with filler:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140805_193537_zpspufpqely.jpeg)

Ready for final prime then paint:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140805_225352_zps7bihngij.jpeg)

Exciting :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on August 06, 2014, 09:21:07 AM
Looking good... This makes me want to repaint my car soooo bad... but then it would be perfect which doesn't really work well with track events.  The first chip/ding would make me mad...

Also, love your progress updates.  I am so bad at that. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on August 06, 2014, 11:34:51 AM
Looking good... This makes me want to repaint my car soooo bad... but then it would be perfect which doesn't really work well with track events.  The first chip/ding would make me mad...

Also, love your progress updates.  I am so bad at that. 

Yep.. That is why im very hesitant to paint mine.. it is just going to get destroyed.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on August 06, 2014, 03:17:14 PM
Looking good... This makes me want to repaint my car soooo bad... but then it would be perfect which doesn't really work well with track events.  The first chip/ding would make me mad...

Also, love your progress updates.  I am so bad at that. 

Yep.. That is why im very hesitant to paint mine.. it is just going to get destroyed.

Clear bra it. And start leading the pack. Problem solved
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 07, 2014, 08:48:48 AM
Looking good... This makes me want to repaint my car soooo bad... but then it would be perfect which doesn't really work well with track events.  The first chip/ding would make me mad...

Also, love your progress updates.  I am so bad at that. 

Yep.. That is why im very hesitant to paint mine.. it is just going to get destroyed.

Clear bra it. And start leading the pack. Problem solved

That's something that's definitely on my list for the car to survive being daily driven. It'll happen after the paint has time to cure. I'll just have to find someone localish that's willing to do it :)

John was aiming to get the body work finished on the front cap of the car and only missed his target by a hair due to a quick family emergency:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140806_182905_zpsbeb797fu.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140806_182909_zps9znzyoj3.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140806_182855_zps17wb9i0a.jpeg)

John gave me a hard time for the 'belt buckle dents' in the top of the fenders  :yay: I'm completely guilty in the regaurd. I've been working on the car without 'protection' after the failed paint job because I didn't care about scratching the paint. Guess I should have worried about denting the metal  :-[

A shot after blocking:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140806_192916_zpsqjgqx8ey.jpeg)

The larger patches of filler down by the wheel well was caused by rolling the fenders. I knew the FD front fenders were flimsy but apparantly it's trivial to pull out the sheet metal of the fender behind the lip and over the side-vent. Mine was pulled and flattened out a little bit of the curvature. When I was down last week John had to feel the pull. I have to admit I barely felt anything if I felt anything at all, but John did so he new it needed to be skimmed and blocked or it may be more obvious under black paint.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on August 07, 2014, 10:47:52 AM
Looking good... This makes me want to repaint my car soooo bad... but then it would be perfect which doesn't really work well with track events.  The first chip/ding would make me mad...

Also, love your progress updates.  I am so bad at that. 

Yep.. That is why im very hesitant to paint mine.. it is just going to get destroyed.

Clear bra it. And start leading the pack. Problem solved

Not caring helps me lead the pack :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on August 07, 2014, 01:14:28 PM
http://www.amazon.com/3M-90000-Paint-Defender-Spray/dp/B00BSKYM82 (http://www.amazon.com/3M-90000-Paint-Defender-Spray/dp/B00BSKYM82)

http://www.amazon.com/3M-90201-Paint-Defender-Trigger/dp/B00BHH1QT4/ref=pd_sim_auto_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F22ZGEASFSEHE9DRW20 (http://www.amazon.com/3M-90201-Paint-Defender-Trigger/dp/B00BHH1QT4/ref=pd_sim_auto_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F22ZGEASFSEHE9DRW20)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 07, 2014, 05:21:31 PM
http://www.amazon.com/3M-90000-Paint-Defender-Spray/dp/B00BSKYM82 (http://www.amazon.com/3M-90000-Paint-Defender-Spray/dp/B00BSKYM82)

http://www.amazon.com/3M-90201-Paint-Defender-Trigger/dp/B00BHH1QT4/ref=pd_sim_auto_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F22ZGEASFSEHE9DRW20 (http://www.amazon.com/3M-90201-Paint-Defender-Trigger/dp/B00BHH1QT4/ref=pd_sim_auto_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F22ZGEASFSEHE9DRW20)

I've seen that stuff before, but I just don't trust it. Too many mediocre->bad reviews. Obviously it comes down to application skill, but I obviously don't have painting skills as shown in the last 3 pages ;)
I'd also be worried that it would stick after a summer in Mississippi heat. I've got to have something that's guaranteed to come off when I need it to come off.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Simronrx7 on August 13, 2014, 05:14:41 PM
updates please!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 14, 2014, 09:30:16 AM
updates please!!

Keep your shorts on ;)

Updates will be coming shortly. John has been out for a few days attending the MotoGP and he's getting settled back in.
I'll try and post an update on what I'm doing for my interior plastics this weekend.

Stay tuned
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AKINA FC on August 14, 2014, 10:45:05 AM
 :chug: Awaiting the eye candy
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: kinger on August 14, 2014, 11:01:09 AM
Interested in the plastics.  Getting OEM plastics is getting hard to find so I been researching how I could finish and repair them.  Not a lot of options out there.  I did make a custom snowmobile where I had the plastics hydrodipped and it looks killer been thinking about that for the rear bins and possibly doors. 

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss263/kinger_photo/utf-8BSU1HMDAwNjctMjAxMDExMTQtMTYwMy5qcGc.jpg) (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/kinger_photo/media/utf-8BSU1HMDAwNjctMjAxMDExMTQtMTYwMy5qcGc.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 14, 2014, 11:40:15 AM
Interested in the plastics.  Getting OEM plastics is getting hard to find so I been researching how I could finish and repair them.  Not a lot of options out there.  I did make a custom snowmobile where I had the plastics hydrodipped and it looks killer been thinking about that for the rear bins and possibly doors. 

Hydro dipping is something I seriously considered, but eventually abandoned because I couldn't find a pattern I could live with indefinitely.

I've been working on stripping my dinoc wrap and getting the parts prepped for paint. Additionally I am plastic welding and working with Plast-Aid to reinforce existing tabs/bosses and repair broken tabs/bosses. Finally, I've got 2 neat surprises in store for the HVAC panel that I'll reveal shortly.

The plan is to get everything ready and have John paint the panels with a semi-gloss possibly textured black paint. I'm trying to get close to the stock look but avoid the sticky 93 plastics. BTW the stock sticky 93 coating is what I'm spending 1/2 of my time removing. It's a job even with good solvent choices that's for sure :)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: kinger on August 14, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
They do a carbon fiber pattern that looks great on flat anything with a lot of curves it distorts a little bit.  i like the white marble on the sled there are scratches all over it the past 4 years and you cannot see a single one.  Your right I don't think the shiny panels are a good fit in a car interior.  I'll look forward to the update. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 18, 2014, 08:48:28 AM
They do a carbon fiber pattern that looks great on flat anything with a lot of curves it distorts a little bit.

I've never been happy with the carbon fiber 'look' that hydro dipping gives. The faux carbon fiber look is one of the reasons I'm ditching the di-noc. It's just run its course on my car. Time for something that looks more stock.

------------------

Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to shoot what I've been working on with my interior this weekend because I didn't even have time to lay eyes on my panels. A combination of family time needs and a netflix binge of orange is the new black canceled those plans  :(

Luckily, John held up his end of the bargain MUCH better

One of the first things he did earlier in the week was a big solid for me. I bought the car with the defrost vents removed and half broken. 2 summers ago I tried installing the old left side that was still in good shape along with a brand new right side and a new center piece. I don't know if it was just me, but it turned out to be an impossible feat to accomplish with the window installed. Those things take a serious push to clip in and the window restricted and real leverage. All I ended up accomplishing was breaking up the nozzle clips and ruining them. So... fast forward to last week. I sent John a care package of new Mazda parts and he went ahead and installed my defroster vents while the front windshield is out.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140814_184128_zpsvbl1pn0d.jpeg)

It may not look like a super exciting picture, but it is DEEPLY satisfying to me as the old attempted install really pissed me off.

John also got a chance to put the final coat of high build primer on the front hood and fenders:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140815_185408_zpspulmytq0.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140815_185353_zpsvtunl7i9.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140815_185338_zpsmg1vfnmk.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140815_185345_zpsu4ebyexs.jpeg)

Afterwards he misted he panels with a light black guide coat to help with final blocking.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140815_190044_zpss5ott1x6.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140815_190050_zpsu8nfrubx.jpeg)

Excited to see the final outcome for the panels above  :D

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Tictakman on August 18, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Might have missed it, what color are you going with?

Zak
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 18, 2014, 09:35:01 AM
Might have missed it, what color are you going with?

Zak

Black. I don't have a particular color code picked out or anything though. I just told John to go with the deepest most jet black he could get his hands on  :cheers:

Oh, and in case anyone is wondering. The base and clear will be applied in a paint booth :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on August 18, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
Looking great so far.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on August 18, 2014, 11:30:26 AM
I'd just paint it out on the grass for the au natural look
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 20, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
John got serious over the last two days :D

Backside of the hatch primed after smoothing the welds and sanding:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140819_180032_zpsq5rojf4u.jpeg)

Hatch Primed:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140819_184127_zps9og2rcvr.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140819_183749_zpsqnev1gap.jpeg)

Guide coat applied:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140819_184835_zpspxq3oeph.jpeg)

This was funny. John pulled my mirrors to prep them and the doors for paint and found out they've never been removed for any of the paint jobs this car has received:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140819_191427_zps7cxvs9r5.jpeg)

Stripping the doors and finding filler. Hoping it's just dings that were filled. Also, check out the close up on the old defective paint!:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140819_205639_zpsddq8sphr.jpeg)

Stripping the driver's door continued:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140819_213030_zpseqcapldi.jpeg)

Another happy day for me  :yay:

Still no progress on updating y'all on my projects at home. My mother-in-law is coming to help my wife with Ava tonight and tomorrow and my folks are coming for the weekend, so maybe I can free up some time to get things to a stopping point and take pictures for an update.  :cheers:

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 20, 2014, 11:33:00 PM
Well, scratch the update on my end. I just turned my attic, bonus room, and garage upside down looking for parts that have seemingly just walked away :(
One of the parts I was most interested in finding was my stock antenna assembly. Knowing my dumb ass I probably chunked it thinking it was my rear wiper motor or something. My rear wiper motor is sitting on the shelf where I thought my antenna was, so I expect that's what happened. Oh well, just another part I'll have to buy. I think y'all will be excited to see what I plan on doing with it as it's a product that works with the stock antenna I hope to market in the future pending a successful trial.

Anyone that's upgraded to an aftermarket antenna and has a stock antenna that's headed for the trash can, let me know. I'm interested in it even if it has a broken mast.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on August 21, 2014, 12:04:10 AM
Shave the antenna and get an aftermarket one. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 21, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
Shave the antenna and get an aftermarket one. 

Nah. I did that with my last mr2 and wasn't a fan. Even with an interior antenna smacked on the windshield I got lousy reception. Nope, I need a real antenna for what I have planned. Just bear with me, you'll see what I've got in the works :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: spacevomit on August 21, 2014, 12:29:53 PM
I think I have one, lemme look around.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 21, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
I think I have one, lemme look around.

 :bacon: :cheers: :bacon:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 22, 2014, 09:17:06 AM
John continued work on the driver's side door.

He found out that the door had a pretty respectable ding in it that had been filled with bondo along with some surface rust that got into the metal before they slapped on the bondo.

Surface rust:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140821_184654_zpsrvdgiver.jpeg)

Bondo:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140821_182142_zps8mgwzasu.jpeg)

Finished stripping:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140821_191743_zpsqxazag8e.jpeg)

John's planning on fixing the dent/ding with some metal tweaking and a thin skim of filler. Looking forward to seeing the results  :bacon:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on August 22, 2014, 11:02:38 AM
The wheels of progress keep moving. I am enjoying the photos. Thanks for posting with explanations.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on August 22, 2014, 02:21:54 PM
John has to be the most prolific worker of any body shop guy I've ever seen!   That's a lot of work he's completing quickly.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on August 22, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
No shit right.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on August 23, 2014, 10:05:47 PM
3rd that.... impressive.  Extremely excited to see this thing shot.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 25, 2014, 09:25:18 AM
As usual, John continues to bust ass and worked on my door through the weekend.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140824_192839_zps3midicum.jpeg)

Epoxy primer has been laid and it's ready to be leveled.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: kinger on August 25, 2014, 04:21:08 PM
I cant think of a guy that more deserved a painter/body man like John, he is like your body man clone!!  The attention to detail is amazing, you don't find people that will work like that anymore.  Nice to see people taking pride in doing the right thing. 

Looks killer the black will be amazing when done. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 28, 2014, 08:22:21 AM
Thanks kinger :)

John kicked some more ass last night and made some serious moves working on the doors.

Here's the driver's door blocked and leveled:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_193027_zpsj8nteo1g.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_193016_zpsgmi2k9ir.jpeg)

More pictures of the driver's door showing a dent John found and repaired:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_190624_zpsmhseiq4y.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_190640_zpspaxu7te4.jpeg)

Showing me the 'eyebrow' of the dent. It's been massaged and is a little flat as a result but John plans to skim coat it. After that we should be ready for paint  :bacon:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_190633_zpsr3lzvbgv.jpeg)

Passenger door stripped and epoxy primed.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_182532_zpshwwjqe9s.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_185926_zpspqgj7ozc.jpeg)

Oh and John saw this drop off the paint truck and picked it up off the road for me!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140827_103252_zpsk89ena0h.jpeg)

Well, the truck part isn't accurate, but he did get me a steal of a price through some great contacts! Excited about the paint as its higher end than we originally discussed.

This job is flying by! Looks like I'm not going to have to wait long before its all finished up :D

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: frijolee on August 28, 2014, 01:13:31 PM
Hey Lane,

Have you thought about doing a pearl to go with the Black?  My only thought on repainting cars is that if you stick with purely OEM colors it looks nice but no one knows the effort that went into it.

-Joel
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 28, 2014, 02:10:50 PM
Hey Lane,

Have you thought about doing a pearl to go with the Black?  My only thought on repainting cars is that if you stick with purely OEM colors it looks nice but no one knows the effort that went into it.

-Joel

I've considered it and even though pearls win me over a little bit as they are a classy option, I still end up coming back to the stock palette. Specifically with black I want the deepest reflective black I can get and in my experience, that's not a trait of pearls.  Another reason is resale. I doubt pearls really hurt resale like non-stock wild colors but I doubt it would add value. No matter who I think I'm kidding, there is a slim and none chance I'll actually pass this car down to my children so I expect it'll be sold at some point between now and then and I don't want to give an informed and frugal wheelerdealer to have another crutch to say, non-OEM paint color = -3k off the asking price ;) It sounds stupid but you wouldn't believe some of the carefully calculated estimates I received from tire kickers (when I had my car for sake) on how my specific choices/mods devalued my car complete with dollar figures for what each transgression should take away from my asking price haha!

I've considered going back to montego blue as well. My car was a pretty terrible repaint of MB so it never really impressed me, but after seeing some truly exceptional specimens of MB (Josh/XLR8's FD being one of the top examples) it swayed me back and forth for a while. My painted black engine bay ended up making my decision a little easier to stick with black, but when I see a fine MB FD it sometimes makes me second guess myself  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on August 28, 2014, 02:29:49 PM
Black is the worst color, except for all the others
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 28, 2014, 03:27:51 PM
black is ∞ better then the other colors [∴ Black > All Colors]
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on August 28, 2014, 03:47:46 PM
i thought that was white, black is the absence of color. It cann't be measured there for it is infinite, all other colors can be measured therefor black is ∞ better then the other colors
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 28, 2014, 03:51:15 PM
i thought that was white, black is the absence of color. It cann't be measured there for it is infinite, all other colors can be measured therefor black is ∞ better then the other colors

Works for me. Edited for clarity ;)

I just know that when I was in kindergarten and I mixed all my watercolors together I could get a pretty respectable black going   :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on August 28, 2014, 03:56:17 PM
I always ended up with a gross purple
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: scuter83 on August 28, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
I always ended up with a snack....
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on August 28, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
Mixing light is not the same as mixing pigments, kids.  Pigments absorb all colors except what you see, light is the opposite.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 28, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
Mixing light is not the same as mixing pigments, kids.  Pigments absorb all colors except what you see, light is the opposite.

Dom dom dooooom. Fun's over guys  :yay:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on August 28, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Please stop updating this thread... I really don't have the money to repaint my car... :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: hybrid10 on August 28, 2014, 08:39:05 PM
Just made some more progress... updates are coming. Just fair warning :p
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 28, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Just made some more progress... updates are coming. Just fair warning :p

Hahaha! He's right! I'm getting awesome previews as I write. Y'all will have to wait till tomorrow morning to see the goods though :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on August 29, 2014, 09:21:10 AM
More door pr0n for you junkies

Skimmed and blocked driver's door:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140828_192707_zpsi25kg4vu.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140828_192715_zpsthxwgkts.jpeg)

Blocked the passenger door to shot the low/high spots. It had a flat spot similar to the driver's side door that was near the back of the door. The door had plenty of dings. The spots that are close together near the top of the door is where John massaged the metal to push out the flat spot. Nothing major to report.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140828_192648_zpsiiwcoymc.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140828_192721_zpsjikreu2k.jpeg)

Second skim and block of the driver's side door:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140828_182212_zpsqgpuwnut.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140828_191239_zpscq8ptuwj.jpeg)

At this point John's very close to final priming the driver's side door. He said he's got a couple things to touch up then he'll shoot the final primer. The passenger door needs a little more work but I expect John will wrap up the doors next week  :popcorn:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on August 29, 2014, 11:30:09 AM
This is coming along super well and making me really, really dread starting a new car and doing this stuff again!   That's a HUGE amount of work he's done already.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 05, 2014, 09:08:58 AM
As expected John wrapped up the doors save the final blocking :D

Smoothed out and masked for primer
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_165641_zpszjhhzbhu.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_165635_zpsrbnbfdrw.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_165653_zpsaseysqxq.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_165648_zpssypd5pp2.jpeg)

Primed and smooth as butta  :yay:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_171455_zpskiynhzzj.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_171431_zpsealsrew1.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_171503_zpstrkl44rc.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_171443_zpsj2zllwok.jpeg)

Guide coat sprayed on for final blocking:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_172749_zpsuuirpwhu.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140904_172754_zps6xxks2t7.jpeg)

Great work by John!

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Simronrx7 on September 08, 2014, 10:28:10 PM
really looking forward to what you have got planned for the antenna. hints please!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on September 09, 2014, 08:04:46 AM
(http://m.gifmania.us/Animated-Gifs-Technology/Free-Animations-Radar/Radar-Antenna-53086.gif)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 10, 2014, 10:09:44 AM
Hey guys

Sorry for the lack of updates. I got hit with some food poisoning or a stomach virus on Sunday night and I'm just getting back on my feet. Luckily John has been going full force though :D

Taped up to protect the interior from paint dust:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140909_140150_zpso9p4hffi.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140909_135847_zpshezjmpru.jpeg)

Stripping. Showing off the factory roof to quarter seam:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140909_150256_zpsbto8kakv.jpeg)

Showing off some surface rust around the a-pillar caused by the previous improper window installation:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140909_141139_zpspzsqvhqt.jpeg)

Big stripping commences
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140909_150246_zps3kgc2ul5.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140909_181341_zpsh19zet5e.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140909_181332_zpsrur02nq1.jpeg)
(http://blog.munchado.com//wp-content/uploads/2013/10/rob-riggle-pow-gif.gif)

really looking forward to what you have got planned for the antenna. hints please!

Ask and you shall receive  :D

While it's still very much in its prototype phase and is completely untested, here is what I have planned.
This all stems from this post on rx7club.com:

http://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/all-those-dislike-stock-fd-antenna-1065753/#post11755076 (http://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/all-those-dislike-stock-fd-antenna-1065753/#post11755076)

Cartels posted that he used this adapter:
(http://www.total7.jp/usrimg/ae49b76b778b23b8af2cfc98fb7a84d10081_docs8_3.jpg)
(http://www.total7.jp/usrimg/ae49b76b778b23b8af2cfc98fb7a84d10090_docs8_0.jpg)

http://www.total7.jp/info/sale/detail/?did=271 (http://www.total7.jp/info/sale/detail/?did=271)

To adapt the S2000 antenna to the RX7 base unit after removing the base unit's retractable antenna.

To me this was a very attractive solution as I have never been impressed with aftermarket units. While aftermarket units seem fine in the reception department, one thing they never seem to be able to get right is the angled grommet that hugs the unique curve of the RX7's quarter panel and aims the antenna straight up. To accomplish this perfectly, in my mind, requires using the stock grommit. That's why the adapter Cartels posted seemed like such a good idea to me.

1st problem - This adapter is seemingly only offered in Japan without an option for export. However, it's apparently plug and play, so I figured I'd go through the trouble. Using Nengun as an exporter, I paid them to buy the item from yahoo auctions then send it to my door in MS. Cool service. Steep price tag. ~$40 all said and done! Ouch!

2nd problem - Ok, I've got the adapter, it's got Japanese and picture instructions! Sweet! Ok where's my antenna? Dammit! Where to #@$@ is it? After turning my house upside down I resolved that at some point I'd accidentally junked it. Ah well, contacted fritz flynn over at the club and got another one shipped over.

3rd problem - The adapter IS NOT plug and play. This is the reason for the update delay. Additionally, the Japanese instructions that came with the adapter are obviously for another car. This was disappointing to me as I was hoping to document an easy way for folks to do the upgrade and/or offer the adapter within the states. I decided to move forward with a prototype anyway despite the problems I faced. My solution required trimming the contact sleeve that normally houses the retractable antenna and building up the diameter of the adapter ~1mm with aluminum foil (I know... but it's a concept test prototype) to allow it to press fit inside the contact sleeve. Additionally I modified a washer to lock the adapter into the stock antenna base. Here are the results:

This first picture shows all the pieces to the puzzle. The main focus is on the center metal tube. This tube is a stock part. It basically goes down into the antenna base and makes contact with the internal electronics with its OD to work receive signal from the retractable antenna. Additionally, it makes contact with the retractable antenna with its ID when its in its upright position. It's basically a sleeve that acts as a conductor between the antenna and the antenna base. It's unique because it has a press fit plastic fitting built into the top of the tube and because the tube has cut out tabs that allow pressure to be placed on the inner antenna and the outer antenna base. This also provides a path for the radio wave signals to pass:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW9451_zps74779e76.jpg)

So I've got to use the sleeve/tube above. This is what the adapter is supposed to press into. The problem is the adapter's OD is ~ 1mm too small. Additionally, the press fit adapter on the top of the sleeve is made to go through the stock grommit and locking screw to make the antenna outlet look polished and smooth. The adapter is supposed to take over this responsibility so I had to trim off ~ 1/4" off the top of the sleeve top. I followed this by building up the adater's OD with aluminum foil for a contact fit. Finally, I modified a washer to go over the adapter's lip to make the lip larger so the grommit's locking screw can press and hold the entire adapter tight inside the sleeve.

Tube and adapter being lowered into the antenna base:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW9455_zps18c7981b.jpg)

Tube and adapter fully seated in the base:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW9460_zps3e7d450f.jpg)

Tube, adapter, and modified washer locked down with stock grommet and locking nut:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW9462_zps8e75c6f9.jpg)

Antenna attached:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW9464_zps4242f5c0.jpg)

Final view:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW9469_zps2730050e.jpg)

It looks pretty, but remains to be tested. The concept that the adapter uses is a good one, but could use further development for a plug-and-play solution. This may be something I pursue in the future to offer to the general public depending on how good my reception is coming from the prototype.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 16, 2014, 02:12:47 PM
John continues to kick butt and is making serious progress  :cheers:

Busting up some door jambs:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140916_103457_zpsr2mcy7ve.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140916_103507_zpswyj1ohs8.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140915_160223_zpsozunomrk.jpeg)

The jambs were of particular concern for me as they already suffered from paint adhesion problems. I suspected the previous painters hadn't sanded or prepped the jambs other than wiping them clean and John confirmed that in several spots this was the case :( As I would have imagined, the process of properly prepping the jambs was very labor intensive and John had to do it all by hand. To say I'm happy with the results is a serious understatement  :yay:

More rust hunting and annihilation
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140915_160214_zpsiwke1fzd.jpeg)

The pic above is another shot of the window A pillar support after John finished chasing off the surface rust. I asked him if this was a common occurrence as I had been warned about it when I had a window replaced in my old mr2 (warned only, nobody stepped up and offered to do the right job and fix it). He told me that this is pretty common with DIY window repair as cutting out and removing the windshield can damage the paint and therefore leave bare metal exposed. Professional window guys repair this type of damage if it occurs with etching primer, which seals everything back up. Do yourself a favor and be involved with any glass work you hire out because you don't want glass going in over exposed metal.

John was able to get the rock shield coating off from under the doors with a heat gun and a razor blade:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140916_122419_zpsrbbxa28o.jpeg)

This is another little surprise that's happening with my car. John suggested stripping the rock shield off of the bottom edge of the car and painting it to match the car. I agreed and this is how we got to this stage. You do loose a little bit of protection with this choice, but I figure if I really get paranoid I'll just wrap those sections with clear bra and call it a day.

Finally, the sunroof is out and awaiting prep:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140916_122550_zps2z9vpm6v.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 18, 2014, 09:36:17 AM
John is still going strong with the prep work  :D

Starting out, he found a problem that honestly, I have overlooked up to this point. I believe this is the frontmost lip of the driver's side rear wheel well. It's not an area that I rolled, but for some reason it was beat up.... Not for long though

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140916_152615_zpslytgx4nr.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140916_153440_zpsus6jv10p.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140916_153647_zpsi6k5ryso.jpeg)

This kind of attention to detail is what sets John apart from other painters and he just keeps doing it over and over  :cheers:  I get really excited to see things like this get fixed because it's just like the panel gaps. It's very small stuff like this that makes such a huge difference in the end result.

Oh yeah, John epoxy primed and laid down the guide coat on the main body!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140917_154741_zps7f1nkurr.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140917_161005_zpsei2cygie.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140917_160946_zpsfe3tpxey.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140917_165230_zpsxrjdovpy.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140917_165225_zpsg4mkyfop.jpeg)

(http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzA1LzgzL1RoZU9mZmljZS42NjIzMS5naWYKcAl0aHVtYgkxMjAweDk2MDA-/0352c94a/421/The-Office.gif)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on September 18, 2014, 10:32:53 AM
That's really coming amazingly well.   Look forward to seeing it painted.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Simronrx7 on September 18, 2014, 12:20:10 PM
MOOOOOAARRR!!!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on September 21, 2014, 09:05:43 AM
I am sure this paint job is costing you an arm and a leg, but the prep work will really pay off in the end, i bet you are eager to see some color on there!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 22, 2014, 08:17:29 AM
I am sure this paint job is costing you an arm and a leg, but the prep work will really pay off in the end, i bet you are eager to see some color on there!

Actually, John's rates are unbelievably good. If anyone is considering getting a paint job in the future, I'd suggest running it by him first. It may just be worth the hassle to get it to Mississippi  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on September 22, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
I am sure this paint job is costing you an arm and a leg, but the prep work will really pay off in the end, i bet you are eager to see some color on there!

Actually, John's rates are unbelievably good. If anyone is considering getting a paint job in the future, I'd suggest running it by him first. It may just be worth the hassle to get it to Mississippi  :yay:

Lane

That's what I'm thinking...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 23, 2014, 08:11:08 AM
Quick update from yesterday:

Body has been blocked:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140922_113048_2_zpsp65h2kxu.jpeg)

Stripped the sunroof
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140922_125650_zpsmafeqtew.jpeg)

The image above made me do a double take as I thought the sunroof was aluminum. Apparently its not and I had a rust bubble coming up strong  :scratch:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 24, 2014, 08:19:21 AM
Slicking everything out:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140923_163256_zpsgglahqc4.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140923_163243_zpstrtqt9fg.jpeg)

Getting close to getting its final prime

Here's a shot of the completed repair to the frontmost lip of the driver's side rear wheel well from post 600 :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140923_164102_zpssq8svcwb.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on September 24, 2014, 08:36:18 AM
Suprised at the rust on the sun roof, what do you think caused that?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 24, 2014, 08:38:35 AM
Suprised at the rust on the sun roof, what do you think caused that?

I have no idea. When I took the car in to be painted the first time, there wasn't any apparent problems with it, so I'm guessing it was something that wasn't addressed in one of the earlier resprays.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: hybrid10 on September 24, 2014, 10:15:34 AM
Lane, you are correct about the sunroof
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 25, 2014, 09:05:58 AM
John's been getting his hustle on!

Slippery when wet - Primering over the body work from yesterday
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_160956_zpsmzzt2efj.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_161002_zpsi8ig157a.jpeg)

Drying out:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_155605_zpsvsfiy2rd.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_155552_zpsg9alm9p0.jpeg)

Guide coat applied for next blocking:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_161513_zpsv9v4viq0.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_161452_zpsjhkrulzj.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_161504_zpsr05ye496.jpeg)

Roof shots:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_162541_zpspu01cve0.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140924_162517_zpsq4opdno2.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on September 25, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Seems we are all watching with great anticipation at the progress.
(http://cdn1.smosh.com/sites/default/files/legacy.images/smosh-pit/112010/briefing.gif)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on September 25, 2014, 11:45:04 PM
Looking fantastic bro!   Ready to see that bad boy glistening in the sun!! 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 26, 2014, 08:58:40 AM
Thanks guys! lol! Mike you're crazy!

John finished epoxy priming and guide coating the sunroof. It's ready for its final blocking:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140925_121425_zpsnemxgkxk.jpeg)

John also did the final blocking of the doors yesterday:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140925_150405_zpse61ygfnr.jpeg)

THEN! He took some glamor shots by wiping pre-cleaner on the doors and photographing the reflections!!! It's not perfect as the stuff evaporates fast and wiping it on causes rag streaks, but it gives you an idea of what John's been working so hard on:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140925_150254_zpsjjqbpteu.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140925_150154_zpstlvvxczf.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140925_155752_zps3niqfltn.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140925_150136_zpszgee80dg.jpeg)

That ladies and gentlemen is what separates the men from the boys lol! Its the reason John spent 2 weeks+ on just the door and skimmed them at least 3 times to get them perfectly level. Once again, I am reminded how extremely lucky I am to have stumbled across a paint pro that has standards this high :D

Can't wait until that deep rich black is on them!
 
Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on September 26, 2014, 11:56:26 AM
This shit is Level 2 Fancy.    That's as many levels as there are!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 26, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
That's a lot of fancies!  :yay:

Thanks Blake  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on September 26, 2014, 02:14:23 PM
I am pretty sure that lane is just luring us in and won't let us see the final results unless we send him money. If not, he should be!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 30, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
I am pretty sure that lane is just luring us in and won't let us see the final results unless we send him money. If not, he should be!!!

shhhhhh... That's not supposed to happen until page 50  $$$ :yay: $$$

Last week John started working on the rear bumper. Found out it's not original and came red from the factory. The difference in color is actually helping John prep the bumper as its giving him a visual queue for when its time to stop sanding. The factory paint and primer is hard to beat on the composite parts so that's where John will stop and that's where we'll base the new paint job:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140926_111908_zps3qcffdny.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140926_142956_zpshngwuush.jpeg)

I also got a pleasant surprise on Sunday. John routed a trip he was taking through Starkville so I was able to meet him and fill up his trunk with parts :)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/_GJW9855_zpsc839909e.jpg)

The above is what I've been working on with my almost non-existant free time. I've been stripping and repairing my interior panels in anticipation of being painted by John. Since the visit was a surprise I wasn't completely finished. In fact, you can see the actual cluster surround is only about 1/3 of the way stripped. Additionally, there are parts that will need to be sanded to whatever grit John wants to start with and there was 1 piece (driver's side door triangle) that will require extra work as I didn't strip it correctly and it ended up fuzzy which I think John called furring a panel. Apparently its something that can happen to plastic/composite panels if you're a newb and don't know what you're doing ;)

I will say that the stripping was an absolute chore. I dealt with a lot of acetone to get the gooey stock coating off before I was able to sand. It's been a couple of months of working on it since I haven't had a lot of time to dedicate to it. Hopefully I helped and didn't just create more work for John though :)
We're going to try and find a slightly textured black paint to coat them with. My emphasis is on durability.

You may also notice I handed over my 99 spec lip. After talking it over with John we've decided to paint the front and rear lip / valance to go along with my painted rockers. May sound odd, but I'm thinking its going to look great. 94+ Mr2s had painted front lips and its a sharp look. I'm hoping it'll really stand out once its done.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on September 30, 2014, 12:00:55 PM
I do not envy you on stripping those.  I did the binnacle on Nick's car, what a PITA.   I still need to do the rest of it to redo with texture finish.   Ugh.

Going gloss black on those?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on September 30, 2014, 12:19:41 PM
I'm amazed at how much damage and subpar work can be done to a seemingly decent car. I know you bought your car as a roller, so clearly a series of bad things and neglect happened to it before you took possession, but did you have any idea or suspect to see all the stuff John is finding (layers of paint, rust, etc)? Has he found any evidence it has been in an accident?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 30, 2014, 12:54:45 PM
I do not envy you on stripping those.  I did the binnacle on Nick's car, what a PITA.   I still need to do the rest of it to redo with texture finish.   Ugh.

Going gloss black on those?

You know my paint then muhahaha. Definitely a PITA. I'll be happy when they're all new. We're looking at trying to replicate the stock finish as best as possible. The only difference is I'm not really going for a rubberized coating. I'd like to stick with a 2k paint if possible. So matte/semigloss with some texture.

I'm amazed at how much damage and subpar work can be done to a seemingly decent car. I know you bought your car as a roller, so clearly a series of bad things and neglect happened to it before you took possession, but did you have any idea or suspect to see all the stuff John is finding (layers of paint, rust, etc)? Has he found any evidence it has been in an accident?

Actually, I haven't really been surprised by the amount of problems John's uncovered; at least not on a 21 year old car. I think people may be mistaking the thorough job (remember, we're going the extra mile to make the black paint as flawless as possible), documentation, and the 150+ pictures for a huge job that's only due to a ratty roller or whatnot. I chalk up the multiple layers of paint (apart from the failure that happened under my ownership) to MB being a hard color to maintain paired with Mazda's early primer adhesion problems I've heard about in the past. The rust is most likely making its appearance due to John's thoroughness. I think this is something most shops might fix but wouldn't mention, at least not in detail. I expect most people that have had glass replaced in their cars over the years have had their base coats scratched around the window shelf with the technician's tools which starts surface rust.

Actually, the only 2 things we've come across that would indicate some PO monkeying is the rear bumper which could be as simple as someone backing into a trailer hitch and the passenger side fender which John had to work with and he ended up saying he wasn't sure if it was original or not. I actually removed the bumper and I was surprised to hear it wasn't original because all of the original hardware was used to bolt it on, the collision foam was in perfect shape, and I did not see any signs of repair anywhere under the skin.

Its an interesting topic though. I'll have to see if John will weigh in to give his thoughts on the job, maybe down the road. It would be fun to get his uncensored thoughts on the condition of the car starting out  :cheers:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on September 30, 2014, 05:37:04 PM

I'm amazed at how much damage and subpar work can be done to a seemingly decent car. I know you bought your car as a roller, so clearly a series of bad things and neglect happened to it before you took possession, but did you have any idea or suspect to see all the stuff John is finding (layers of paint, rust, etc)? Has he found any evidence it has been in an accident?

Actually, I haven't really been surprised by the amount of problems John's uncovered; at least not on a 21 year old car. I think people may be mistaking the thorough job (remember, we're going the extra mile to make the black paint as flawless as possible), documentation, and the 150+ pictures for a huge job that's only due to a ratty roller or whatnot. I chalk up the multiple layers of paint (apart from the failure that happened under my ownership) to MB being a hard color to maintain paired with Mazda's early primer adhesion problems I've heard about in the past. The rust is most likely making its appearance due to John's thoroughness. I think this is something most shops might fix but wouldn't mention, at least not in detail. I expect most people that have had glass replaced in their cars over the years have had their base coats scratched around the window shelf with the technician's tools which starts surface rust.

Actually, the only 2 things we've come across that would indicate some PO monkeying is the rear bumper which could be as simple as someone backing into a trailer hitch and the passenger side fender which John had to work with and he ended up saying he wasn't sure if it was original or not. I actually removed the bumper and I was surprised to hear it wasn't original because all of the original hardware was used to bolt it on, the collision foam was in perfect shape, and I did not see any signs of repair anywhere under the skin.

Its an interesting topic though. I'll have to see if John will weigh in to give his thoughts on the job, maybe down the road. It would be fun to get his uncensored thoughts on the condition of the car starting out  :cheers:

Lane




Well that context does make more sense. In thinking about it again, most of the "discoveries" could be tied to a single event. The way John is working through the panels makes it harder to piece those "clues" together.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on September 30, 2014, 06:18:54 PM
So what are you going to do with this piece of art? I think that you are passing the line from a really nice looking car to a true classic/ trailer queen.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on September 30, 2014, 08:24:51 PM
I do not envy you on stripping those.  I did the binnacle on Nick's car, what a PITA.   I still need to do the rest of it to redo with texture finish.   Ugh.

Going gloss black on those?
They are SUPER easy to strip!!! And you are going to be pissed I told you this now....  lacquer thinner!  You can either wipe it on and kinda wipe the finish off or you can soak a towel and wrap it in it and let the fumes work. No damage to the plastic.  You can use denatured alcohol as well but lacquer thinner is a TON easier.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 30, 2014, 08:54:28 PM
So what are you going to do with this piece of art? I think that you are passing the line from a really nice looking car to a true classic/ trailer queen.


Thanks! Drive it of course! This car was built from the ground up to be a daily driver. I'll just have to deal with the parking lot dings and the handlebar scratches from my future children grazing dad's car with their bikes ;)
Actually, I'll be daily driving it but it'll mostly sit in my business and gym parking lots when its stationary which are pretty private and secure. It probably won't see a lot of traffic at the local grocery stores. As for the kids, I'm hoping that in the next 5 years I can afford to build a shop so it'll have it's own little home away from the heavy kid traffic.
I'll also be well insured. But yeah, daily driven.

They are SUPER easy to strip!!! And you are going to be pissed I told you this now....  lacquer thinner!  You can either wipe it on and kinda wipe the finish off or you can soak a towel and wrap it in it and let the fumes work. No damage to the plastic.  You can use denatured alcohol as well but lacquer thinner is a TON easier.

Nope. Not pissed at all, because I tried everything I could think of. IPA, mineral spirits, paint thinner, lacquer thinner, gasoline, acetone, and even one of the most serious solvents I have on tap, POR 15 reducer/solvent (this stuff will burn your skin off). Acetone worked the best and it was still a pain in the ass. Part of my job at my last business was developing solvent and acid strips for semiconductor fabrication so I always to a pretty thorough job running through my options to see what works best before I settle on something as it can be a MAJOR time saver.
I will say I had a serious arrangement of panels in different conditions. I noticed that the oldest, sunbaked, and stickiest panels were much easier to strip, whereas the stuff that was in excellent to brand new condition was much harder. I actually had one panel that was brand new from the factory and none of my solvents had any effect on it except to 'fur' it. In addition, John thinks my gauge cluster and hood were stripped and coated with something else in the past as they had some type of white primer on them. I couldn't tell as it looked factory perfect to me. It's possible this stuff was a mix from different manufacturing plants with different processes, but it sure made things complicated and a PITA :D

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: hybrid10 on September 30, 2014, 09:15:16 PM
Cmon guys let's stop all this talk of scratches and dents...  it's too early to speak like that. Haha

As far as crash/damage goes I haven't found anything alarming. The qtr panels, roof, rocker panels have never been replaced. It's a pretty solid car other than the previous repairs/paintjobs. It had a few small dings nothing major.

John

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on September 30, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
So what are you going to do with this piece of art? I think that you are passing the line from a really nice looking car to a true classic/ trailer queen.


Thanks! Drive it of course! This car was built from the ground up to be a daily driver. I'll just have to deal with the parking lot dings and the handlebar scratches from my future children grazing dad's car with their bikes ;)
Actually, I'll be daily driving it but it'll mostly sit in my business and gym parking lots when its stationary which are pretty private and secure. It probably won't see a lot of traffic at the local grocery stores. As for the kids, I'm hoping that in the next 5 years I can afford to build a shop so it'll have it's own little home away from the heavy kid traffic.
I'll also be well insured. But yeah, daily driven.

They are SUPER easy to strip!!! And you are going to be pissed I told you this now....  lacquer thinner!  You can either wipe it on and kinda wipe the finish off or you can soak a towel and wrap it in it and let the fumes work. No damage to the plastic.  You can use denatured alcohol as well but lacquer thinner is a TON easier.

Nope. Not pissed at all, because I tried everything I could think of. IPA, mineral spirits, paint thinner, lacquer thinner, gasoline, acetone, and even one of the most serious solvents I have on tap, POR 15 reducer/solvent (this stuff will burn your skin off). Acetone worked the best and it was still a pain in the ass. Part of my job at my last business was developing solvent and acid strips for semiconductor fabrication so I always to a pretty thorough job running through my options to see what works best before I settle on something as it can be a MAJOR time saver.
I will say I had a serious arrangement of panels in different conditions. I noticed that the oldest, sunbaked, and stickiest panels were much easier to strip, whereas the stuff that was in excellent to brand new condition was much harder. I actually had one panel that was brand new from the factory and none of my solvents had any effect on it except to 'fur' it. In addition, John thinks my gauge cluster and hood were stripped and coated with something else in the past as they had some type of white primer on them. I couldn't tell as it looked factory perfect to me. It's possible this stuff was a mix from different manufacturing plants with different processes, but it sure made things complicated and a PITA :D

Lane

Very true that the better condition, the more difficult. On those panels, I doing wraping then in a towel and pouring lacquer thinner in and letting it soak for awhile worked the best. But most of the panels I did we're not in the best shape.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Powaah on September 30, 2014, 09:31:41 PM
So what are you going to do with this piece of art? I think that you are passing the line from a really nice looking car to a true classic/ trailer queen.


Thanks! Drive it of course! This car was built from the ground up to be a daily driver. I'll just have to deal with the parking lot dings and the handlebar scratches from my future children grazing dad's car with their bikes ;)
Actually, I'll be daily driving it but it'll mostly sit in my business and gym parking lots when its stationary which are pretty private and secure. It probably won't see a lot of traffic at the local grocery stores. As for the kids, I'm hoping that in the next 5 years I can afford to build a shop so it'll have it's own little home away from the heavy kid traffic.
I'll also be well insured. But yeah, daily driven.

They are SUPER easy to strip!!! And you are going to be pissed I told you this now....  lacquer thinner!  You can either wipe it on and kinda wipe the finish off or you can soak a towel and wrap it in it and let the fumes work. No damage to the plastic.  You can use denatured alcohol as well but lacquer thinner is a TON easier.

Nope. Not pissed at all, because I tried everything I could think of. IPA, mineral spirits, paint thinner, lacquer thinner, gasoline, acetone, and even one of the most serious solvents I have on tap, POR 15 reducer/solvent (this stuff will burn your skin off). Acetone worked the best and it was still a pain in the ass. Part of my job at my last business was developing solvent and acid strips for semiconductor fabrication so I always to a pretty thorough job running through my options to see what works best before I settle on something as it can be a MAJOR time saver.
I will say I had a serious arrangement of panels in different conditions. I noticed that the oldest, sunbaked, and stickiest panels were much easier to strip, whereas the stuff that was in excellent to brand new condition was much harder. I actually had one panel that was brand new from the factory and none of my solvents had any effect on it except to 'fur' it. In addition, John thinks my gauge cluster and hood were stripped and coated with something else in the past as they had some type of white primer on them. I couldn't tell as it looked factory perfect to me. It's possible this stuff was a mix from different manufacturing plants with different processes, but it sure made things complicated and a PITA :D

Lane

Did you ever try methylene chloride?  That would likely be the most polar solvent you could buy easily.  Its commonly found in carb cleaners and I've seen it as 80-90% in heavy duty paint strippers.
Its much more toxic than acetone so I'm not sure if the benefits outweigh the risks.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 01, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
Cmon guys let's stop all this talk of scratches and dents...  it's too early to speak like that. Haha

Sorry John  :-[  I'll keep the paint carnage predictions out of the thread :D

Did you ever try methylene chloride?  That would likely be the most polar solvent you could buy easily.  Its commonly found in carb cleaners and I've seen it as 80-90% in heavy duty paint strippers.
Its much more toxic than acetone so I'm not sure if the benefits outweigh the risks.

That's the one thing I didn't try. I remember it crossing my mind, but I didn't' get around to using t. I would agree, it would have been a great thing to at least check on. Ah well shoulda woulda coulda ;)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 01, 2014, 12:26:52 PM
Got some more quick primer and wipedown pics to show off!!!

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_105401_zpssynhxwku.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171612_zpsyatz2xzs.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171725_zpsbostbvlb.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171708_zpssrlsnhc9.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171552_zpsetpie6s0.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171524_zps1v0tidvu.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171517_zps53gfscoq.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171639_zpswikwffid.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171556_zpskj5nuz01.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20140930_171710_zpszlkhgz9m.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 02, 2014, 08:25:55 AM
More progress on prepping the rear bumper  8)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141001_105240_zpstoion6oq.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AKINA FC on October 02, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
This thing is gonna look awesome!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on October 02, 2014, 08:12:19 PM
^+1 to that!.... 

Black is so epic when done to this level.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on October 02, 2014, 08:18:34 PM
^+1 to that!.... 

Black is so epic when done to this level.

Don't Jinx it.
You start talking like that and then John gets abducted by Aliens.
(http://thelibertycaucus.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tin_foil_hat.gif)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 03, 2014, 09:01:29 AM
Thanks guys!

Another quickie in terms of photos today but some good stuff to document :)

The rear bumper prep is almost done:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141002_093458_zpsjlcdlsco.jpeg)

Its been a slow and labor intensive process as John has had to do almost all of it by hand, but I think we're just about ready to get it primed.

One thing John worked on yesterday was getting the emblem holes sealed. He ground the backside of the holes, re-drilled them, put a strong two part epoxy in the holes, then covered that with a reinforced mesh nylon that's made for fixing cracked bumpers. After that he put epoxy over the mesh to reinforce the epoxy in the holes which basically makes the bumper solid. The epoxy does have a different expansion rate than the bumper but once it cures he'll grind a low spot on the outside of the bumper and use the flexible filler to cover the epoxy and slick it out. The flexible filler will have an expansion rate similar to the bumper but we both understand that there's a possibility the holes may still show up on hot days. It's just the nature of the beast, but its as good of a solution as I could ever ask for.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141002_093441_zpsblrow7f6.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on October 03, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
That stuff works well, I fixed a cracked flange on my wife's Hyundai with it (I may have been snow drift busting....).
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jeffp5 on October 08, 2014, 02:12:32 PM
I do not envy you on stripping those.  I did the binnacle on Nick's car, what a PITA.   I still need to do the rest of it to redo with texture finish.   Ugh.

Going gloss black on those?
They are SUPER easy to strip!!! And you are going to be pissed I told you this now....  lacquer thinner!  You can either wipe it on and kinda wipe the finish off or you can soak a towel and wrap it in it and let the fumes work. No damage to the plastic.  You can use denatured alcohol as well but lacquer thinner is a TON easier.


I blasted mine in my blast cabinet with a fine media. Worked great. I painted them with Rustoleum painters touch flat black. matches OEM finish almost perfectly. Map pocket lid is painted, hvac panel is a brand new Mazda one.

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/jpatrone/2013-04-28200203_zps9cda1230.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/jpatrone/media/2013-04-28200203_zps9cda1230.jpg.html)
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/jpatrone/2013-04-28200218_zps65cf9abd.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/jpatrone/media/2013-04-28200218_zps65cf9abd.jpg.html)
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/jpatrone/RX7%20build/2013-05-24065116_zps313c8771.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/jpatrone/media/RX7%20build/2013-05-24065116_zps313c8771.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on October 08, 2014, 04:32:56 PM
Can confirm on Rustoleum flat black enamel matching OEM color. Just sprayed door handles last night and the color is very close to OEM.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 08, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
Thanks for the Rustoleum tip guys. I've also been impressed with finish broadfield is getting on his trim pieces using SEM Chip Guard, Satin Black # 39813.
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=20279.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=20279.0)
The only thing that concerns me is that it's all areosol based and I have yet to find an aerosol based paint/coating that can stand up to a beating that a 2 part paint/coating can take. I'm really focusing on durability so I'm going to see what's available as a 2 part coating and if I can't find what I'm looking for I'll step back into aerosols.

Update:

John found out that my paint cap door was also red and there were scraches behind it on the quarter leading to the rear bumper. Apparently a PO was airbraking with the fuel door and caught it on something causing it to tumble down the side and scratch up the rear bumper. This is the going theory for why those two parts weren't factory.

John finished stripping the sunroof, primed it, and got the guide coat on:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141006_095851_zpsxozmy1a7.jpeg)

Additionally he's been putting a lot of fine detail work into my front and rear bumpers. Apparently the last shop had trouble filling the emblem holes in the front bumper and did it twice shooting the top of the bumper twice. John had to redo the work completely:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141007_141715_zpskx3wp70y.jpeg)

Rear bumper approaching its final prime prep stages:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141007_160848_zpskrjtbgo4.jpeg)

Primer town!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141008_122957_zpsutocd93a.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141008_123004_zpsvjhm2waj.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141008_123011_zpshgpr4zfw.jpeg)

Finally, it's not really something John has been photographing but he's taking a lot of time getting the hood perfect. There was a spot where the PO dropped the hood on a 102mm TB that has taken quite a bit of work to get perfect as well as some slight hand prints where the bumper meets the hood caused by hard closes I guess. It's tedious work but he's putting the time into it to get it perfect. John's planning on hopefully getting the hood final primed tomorrow or fiday and final block sand the hood, sunroof, and trunk.

Only things left to prep are the fender vents, mirrors, front lip, and rear valance! After that it's paint time!!!

Hoping to get the jambs painted next week!

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: paul_3rdgen on October 08, 2014, 05:46:30 PM
Turning out great! 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jeffp5 on October 09, 2014, 09:47:38 AM
The only thing that concerns me is that it's all areosol based and I have yet to find an aerosol based paint/coating that can stand up to a beating that a 2 part paint/coating can take. I'm really focusing on durability so I'm going to see what's available as a 2 part coating and if I can't find what I'm looking for I'll step back into aerosols.

I also had good success with the eastwood 2k aerosol clear coat. They make a 2k aerosol matte black that may be a good option to get you the 2 part coating you are seeking.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 09, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
I also had good success with the eastwood 2k aerosol clear coat. They make a 2k aerosol matte black that may be a good option to get you the 2 part coating you are seeking.

Excellent tip! I've also used Eastwood's 2k aerosol clear coat with great success. I used to to top coat a bmw headlight restoration. I should clarify that when I talk about aerosol durability the new 2k cans are exempt because they are awesome :D

 :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on October 13, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
Getting closer!!  Lookin great bro!! :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 21, 2014, 08:41:21 AM
Getting closer!!  Lookin great bro!! :)

Thanks Josh

*Update* or lack of updates haha.

Y'all may have noticed that the frequency of updates has declined lately. When we first got started John was working only on the nights and weekends. Then he was working on the car full time for a few weeks. Now, as we near the finish line, John has been working on an extremely exciting plan for his own paint business. I can't spill all the beans yet or share any pictures but lets just say I don't think we're going to have to take my car to a competitors paint booth in a few weeks to lay down the base and clear ;)

I'll break the news officially once John is done and then we'll resume the paint pr0n  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on October 21, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
Tease
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on October 22, 2014, 04:58:33 PM
Awesome. Is he going to be running any sort of paint special for when he opens up?  :D

 Mind PM'ing me a rough estimate of what it would cost to work with him for an FD?

Mississippi is closer to me than the other side of Texas, so it isn't that crazy to drive there. I've been toying with the idea of just doing a plasti-dip thing myself(either a matte white or a gloss white), or actually getting it pro painted. Looking for some options.

Congrats to John and can't wait to see the final product.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 23, 2014, 09:50:26 AM
Awesome. Is he going to be running any sort of paint special for when he opens up?  :D

 Mind PM'ing me a rough estimate of what it would cost to work with him for an FD?

Mississippi is closer to me than the other side of Texas, so it isn't that crazy to drive there. I've been toying with the idea of just doing a plasti-dip thing myself(either a matte white or a gloss white), or actually getting it pro painted. Looking for some options.

Congrats to John and can't wait to see the final product.

Haha! I have no idea but he does favor the JDM hero cars :D
I'll PM you approximately where I'm at, but you'll have to keep in mind that every car's different, and John was able to get some deals on some supplies that may not carry over. For real numbers you'll have to talk to John.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: xph on October 23, 2014, 10:11:07 AM
My local estimate here in WI was 6-12k depending on prep, so if you take off your own trim, and sand to metal, and your current primer is sticking, and you have no rust or dents, then 6k can cover it.

Mind you that is for a full color sanded show car quality finish (usually 4-5 sanding stages after paint and a buff); and I was quoting red paint which can be a bit more expensive.

-Dan
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 23, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
With prices that high it may be worth your while to ship your car to MS. You'd save yourself a bundle  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: NickWetterlind on October 24, 2014, 02:27:00 AM
Thumbed through the majority of your thread earlier today at work. Just finished reading the last several pages. I am floored. The attention to detail is incredible.

It has served as serious motivation for me. Not in the way that I now want to build a show quality car that appears to have came factory with an LS series motor (quite the opposite really, throwing together a V8 FC that I'll probably crash into one of my friends at a local drift event), but in seeing that even the most dedicated get overwhelmed and frustrated and that that's okay.

Very excited to see this all come together. Seriously, outstanding work.


Also, I didn't realize Short Circuit is as old of a movie as it is. It came out four years before I was born, but I had still watched it numerous times as a little one.  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 24, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
Thumbed through the majority of your thread earlier today at work. Just finished reading the last several pages. I am floored. The attention to detail is incredible.

It has served as serious motivation for me. Not in the way that I now want to build a show quality car that appears to have came factory with an LS series motor (quite the opposite really, throwing together a V8 FC that I'll probably crash into one of my friends at a local drift event), but in seeing that even the most dedicated get overwhelmed and frustrated and that that's okay.

Very excited to see this all come together. Seriously, outstanding work.


Also, I didn't realize Short Circuit is as old of a movie as it is. It came out four years before I was born, but I had still watched it numerous times as a little one.  :D

Glad I could help out with a serving of motivation  :cheers:
There's absolutely nothing wrong with throwing together a v8 fc to crash into your friends haha! In fact, it definitely has its merits. The longer a project stretches out the more you question why you're doing it. I've had to deal with my brain asking me hard questions like "why are you still throwing money and time at a garage ornament that's basically been sitting for 5 years?" They're hard humps to get over and now that I've got a family, they're even harder :D

I expect John will be finishing his booth up over the next couple of weeks and that's when we'll really get down to business with some great picture updates  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on October 29, 2014, 03:36:45 PM
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/7d/7d425b65f5aa79b5a999c3b503a72d68e7b9e5b5129310d7eec48f73e11b2835.jpg)

Just read this from start to finish over the past 2 days. Some seriously awe-inspiring work you've done. Awesome stuff man! Can't wait to see the final paint!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on October 29, 2014, 04:49:55 PM
Thank you thank you  :cheers:
Hoping to have some new pics to post in a week or two :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: NickWetterlind on October 31, 2014, 01:07:25 PM
Hoping to have some new pics to post in a week or two :)

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on November 03, 2014, 08:42:29 PM
I expect to see paint pics around the time I get my engine!   Exciting times my man!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on November 03, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
Yep, anxiously awaiting!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 04, 2014, 05:41:05 PM
Prepare yourselves and strap on an extra adult sized diaper because its about to get fancy up in here:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141104_162231_zpsfhs01oyv.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on November 05, 2014, 08:44:53 AM
Is it still going to be black?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 05, 2014, 08:59:47 AM
Is it still going to be black?

Yep. The engine bay is black therefore I'm sticking with black. I've gotten asked that a lot  :confused: It's like a lot of people think that if we put this much work into prep, its a shame or something to go with basic black. I dunno. Personally, I think black is is the color that's truly going to let the work done stand out  :bacon:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on November 05, 2014, 11:44:44 AM
Black is the hardest color to prep for, bar none.  I'd agree that it will really show the quality of the prep/process.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on November 05, 2014, 01:56:51 PM
I wanted to go with Battleship grey personally.  But I think any non white paint job without metallic or pearl to help trick your eyes will really show how good or bad a paint job is.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 06, 2014, 03:40:03 PM
Things are picking up again... FAST  :yay:

The arrival:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141104_180515_zpsdsz4iwul.jpeg)

Getting the door jambs final prepped for base and clear:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141106_105851_zpstajdr6fy.jpeg)

Base laid:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141106_125742_zps4bvo81et.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141106_123811_zps1sepehmm.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141106_125753_zpsf4xv741h.jpeg)

CLEAR
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141106_133237_zpsaylqshwa.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141106_133731_zpskpjr5orj.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141106_133759_zpsghbo5bqq.jpeg)

First reflective pic is the door jamb. The second is the hatch.
I remember John telling me when I dropped off the car that the jambs would need to be painted in order to match. I agreed but now I can't believe how big of a statement that was  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on November 06, 2014, 04:20:37 PM
Holy crap.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on November 06, 2014, 04:24:29 PM
http://youtu.be/-_IlNbsILLE (http://youtu.be/-_IlNbsILLE)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: kinger on November 07, 2014, 11:40:12 AM
Jesus H, never seen black shine like that!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on November 07, 2014, 11:59:48 AM
Jesus H, never seen black shine like that!

It looks like Black Chrome..
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Nfinitecc on November 07, 2014, 06:42:54 PM
Hey sorry to bring back an old detail. ...but on your LC clutch MC did you have to use more that 2 crush washers on the banjo fitting? Did it bottom out before getting tight?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 07, 2014, 07:20:00 PM
Hey sorry to bring back an old detail. ...but on your LC clutch MC did you have to use more that 2 crush washers on the banjo fitting? Did it bottom out before getting tight?

Nope. You shouldn't have to use more than 2 crush washers. The pass through bolt you're using is too long. What you need is this:

Part Number = 997517ERL

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ear-997517erl (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ear-997517erl)

Its the second item on my BOM.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: paul_3rdgen on November 07, 2014, 08:02:41 PM
Seriously that's unreal!  Wow... He's doing an incredible job.  Congrats and I love black, my car is black under the wrap...this is making me wanna unwrap my car.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Nfinitecc on November 07, 2014, 08:38:25 PM
Ugh that's a kick in the balls, 977 instead of 997!!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Nfinitecc on November 07, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
Oh yeah and nice paint! Cars gonna look as serious as what's under the hood now!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on November 08, 2014, 12:23:31 AM
Sweet Mary...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 08, 2014, 10:30:33 AM
Ugh that's a kick in the balls, 977 instead of 997!!!!

Looks like Dyslexia and Murphy teamed up on that one. It's a combo that's teamed up on me many time as well ;)

Thank you for all the kind words guys. I keep looking back at the paint pics and smiling. I'm sure my wife thinks I'm going crazy cracking goofy smiles at my phone every 15 minutes

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on November 08, 2014, 08:59:12 PM
With that fancy paint, you are going to need a few of these.  I picked up a set after my car was painted and they are down right invaluable.   

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/ultra+soft+fender+cover.do (http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/ultra+soft+fender+cover.do)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on November 08, 2014, 09:03:53 PM
His paint is going to be so fancy he is just going to put it in a glass box and look at it from a distance.  No one with this fancy of paint would drive or work on the car.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on November 09, 2014, 12:01:43 AM
Believe me, I know.  After my car was painted I found every small chip and scratch to be very frustrating.   Highway?  Forget about it.  I hopped on the turpike for 45 min and got 2 chips in my bumper... I could see them from 5ft away and went ape shit.

A high quality paint job like this is a beautiful thing.  It is such a long, painstaking process on so many fronts, that you want it to look amazing for as long as possible.  I am very excited to see it in person.  I know Lane spoke of DDing this thing when it's all said and done.  Me, I rock a $2k Ford Ranger.   It continues to pay for itself.  No freakin way I would daily this sex machine. ;-)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BLKMGK on November 09, 2014, 11:36:58 AM
Clear-bra the nose for sure and maybe some other pieces. When I last had a car painted I drove it straight home to allow it to cure and when that was done straight to the clear-bra guy! Sweated bullets the whole way but not a single chip until that car's demise. The job this painter is doing is amazing, that's someone who cares and I wish more shared it. Too many corner cutters out there :-(
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 10, 2014, 08:18:12 AM
With that fancy paint, you are going to need a few of these.  I picked up a set after my car was painted and they are down right invaluable.   

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/ultra+soft+fender+cover.do (http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/ultra+soft+fender+cover.do)

Oh wow! Those look nice. I've actually been looking around for something like that. I have a bumper pad and some fender covers but they are plether and not magnetized. They usually do more harm than good. I would think something soft and machine washable would work much better. I'll put them on my Christmas list and keep an eye out for a matching bumper cover  :cheers:

Lane
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 10, 2014, 08:29:37 AM
Haha! You guys  :yay:

This car was built to be a daily and I'm devoted to carrying out that plan. My car has had almost 6 years to be a garage ornament and now's the time it started paying for its stay. Sure, it'll be tough seeing rock chips come into the picture (sorry John, I'll stop there  :-[ ) but it'll just be part of the fun. Up till this point I have not enjoyed owning the FD. That's kind of a harsh thing to say, but it's true and there's a simple explanation. Looking pretty in my garage is not something that brings me lasting great memories or joy. It'll be the daily drive that'll really set this RX7 into my head and heart as being worth it and a car that I love.  I loved my mr2, hombre (s10), and e60 and they were / all all daily drivers. Car's were meant to be driven and that's what I intend to do  :drive:

My plan is to let the paint cure for ~ 6 months and get it clear bra'd early next summer. I'll probably also clear the rockers and the door edges as well. If I get a rock chip before then I'll just have to rely on my touch up skills before I take her in for the bra.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 10, 2014, 10:19:47 AM
I like that plan.  :)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BLKMGK on November 10, 2014, 09:35:22 PM
6 months? Wow, I think I waited maybe two weeks based on what the bodyshop and the clear-bra guy told me. Never had an issue with it and it looked great until it's demise and heck the bra even mostly protected the paint during that too! Well worth the money and I agree with the driving part completely - enjoy this car as often as possible! YOLO!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 10, 2014, 10:26:40 PM
6 months? Wow, I think I waited maybe two weeks based on what the bodyshop and the clear-bra guy told me. Never had an issue with it and it looked great until it's demise and heck the bra even mostly protected the paint during that too! Well worth the money and I agree with the driving part completely - enjoy this car as often as possible! YOLO!

Well 6 months is just an estimate on my end and I was factoring in that it will be 6 winter months. Regardless, that waiting period isn't firm. I'll talk with John before I set anything in stone :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on November 11, 2014, 01:31:55 AM
Beautiful paint. I've seen a few cars with paint like that but its few and far between.

Put a clear bra on it and try not to wince / cry at the stone chips it will inevitably get. I'm all for guys driving their cars. That is the point of doing all this work!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on November 13, 2014, 10:26:52 PM
Without updates on this paint I'm like
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t516/Mik3ymomo/6f6f9b7e7de0accecf88b486b31f9e6b.jpg)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on November 14, 2014, 12:24:46 AM
lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 14, 2014, 08:41:23 AM
Sorry guys. They're coming. I promise. Without stealing John's thunder I'll just say he's having to take care of some quick jobs to keep the lights on and he's working on a construction project that will directly affect the quality of the base and clear that goes down on the rx7 :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 17, 2014, 10:20:13 AM
Here's a look at how John closed out last week:

Unhappy with the levelness of the hood, John went back and worked on it one more time. This is mainly due to the PO dropping the hood on a ~90mm TB that was too big to clear the hood.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141113_155349_zpsob5rczef.jpeg)

I'd say he's got it now :)

Also got the underside of the hood painted along with the passenger door jambs:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141114_144550_zps8ykrqag4.jpeg)

I believe all we have left as far as paint goes is:

All parts need a final scuff for paint except the front bumper (needs additional sanding), hood needs block sanding, and mirrors need stripped and primed.

 :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 24, 2014, 02:58:30 PM
Got a nice little present last Saturday. A break from the family!  :yay:

So I got a chance to put 8hrs into the car, or rather, the parts of it that are still at my house. Once of the things I've had on my list of things to do is to refurbish the rear interior plastics. Out of all of my interior plastics the rear plastics were the most sunburned and faded, so getting them in good shape was the primary goal of my day.
I've always been interested in coating/painting/dying plastic. More specifically I've always been interested in what can actually chemically bond to plastic and survive the daily wear and tear of being in a daily driven car. The best stuff is reserved for the pros and are usually buried under stacks of datasheets, systems, and procedures that I have gotten lost in on more than one occasion. Rather than try and figure out what goes with what and actually trying to source what pro stuff I needed at a consumer level I decided that I would try dupicolor's plastic and vinyl coating system with their compatible adhesion promoter. Specifically:

HVP106-6 PK - 6 pack of Dupli-Color Flat Black Vinyl and Fabric Coating
and
CP199-6 PK - Dupli-Color Adhesion Promoter

Strangely I was convinced by this youtube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1QqO5ZfAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1QqO5ZfAM)

So, that's what I decided on. My method was as follows:

Scrub the panels with purple power degreaser using a medium course brush and let dry in the warm Mississippi sun
Sand panels with 600 Grit sandpaper
Clean panels with Trisodium Phosphate using a green scotch brite pad, rinse well, then dry with towels
Wipe down with alcohol
Spray the panels with 3 lite coats of CP199 adhesion promoter waiting 2-3 minutes between coats
Spray the panels with 2 lite coats and 1 medium coat of HVP106 within 10 minutes of the adhesion promoter and ~5 minutes between coats

Here are the results:

Prepped right before the final alcohol wipedown:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW0546_zpsd720df5b.jpg)

Post final spray:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW0566_zpsa5431d24.jpg)

Comparison between a fresh from ray straight out of the plastic scuff guard and one of the hatch plastic pieces:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW0623_zps75de0ab8.jpg)

The shine (or lack thereof) of the finish is perfect with stock which is something I was worrying about. The brand new factory piece is actually a little grayer than the refurbished pieces, however I chalk that up to the stock piece probably having a release agent on it and no protectant. I think it will match even better once it's dressed.

So far I am impressed with the bond of the coating. Time will tell though. I chose the rear pieces as the trial because if it doesn't hold up to my expectations the hatch is relatively low traffic.

I also took on another center console rewrap. For those that remember, this is my second attempt.
The reason for the second go is a 2 part decision. 1. My center console was cracked badly as one of the gorilla PO's put their elbow through it at one point. 2. My first wrap was a failure in my eyes. It always looked wrinkled and loose. Come to find out, the adhesive I used was incorrect, and I should have steamed / ironed the leather before applying it to get rid of the wrinkles.

Here's my first attempt:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/11693814703_16f7ae8f9e_b.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5511/11693528025_f32009da5b_b.jpg)
Wrinkly... Loose... A total letdown

2nd attempt with a new to me center console + a new redline leather skin:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW0626_zps8099f965.jpg)

Tight as a drum :D

Finally, I've been working on my HID converted headlights. It's not a subject I think I went over in much detail when I originally built them so I thought I'd post a picture of what I'm dealing with.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW0570_zps9244b4de.jpg)

The reason for the revisit is because the light shrouds (not pictured) worked their way loose and were rattling inside the lens. I removed the lenses and the shrouds to examine the problem. Turns out the shrouds only have ~1/16" of contact around the projector housing, so simply gluing it with hotglue like I did originally didn't cut the mustard. I'll post my solution to the problem after I get them back together.

As we enter Thanksgiving weekend I'm not expecting much to happen from John and the paint. It might happen before Christmas though :)

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on November 25, 2014, 07:16:54 AM
Good update, Are you planning on doing more with the red stitched leather? 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 25, 2014, 08:17:27 AM
Good update, Are you planning on doing more with the red stitched leather? 

Right now I've got a red stitched shift boot, ebrake boot, console cover, passenger door handle, and steering wheel. Basically everything redline offers that's applicable to my car except the ebrake handle cover (because I think that's a little overkill). I'm no seamster so I have to rely on offerings of other and I think I've tapped out the current offerings haha so no, I think this is where it ends for now  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 7th Heaven on November 25, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Just went through your whole build thread. Awesome job! Love the detail put into everything. Exactly what I'm going to do.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 25, 2014, 10:27:27 PM
Just went through your whole build thread. Awesome job! Love the detail put into everything. Exactly what I'm going to do.

Just be careful what you wish for and get your checkbook ready  :yay: I think my car is a prime example of scope creep and how expensive these swaps can be of you don't pull back on the reigns. Just look at my receipt list in my sig. Add $10k on top of that and it'll probably be in the ballpark for what I'm going to be in the car for after paint, exhaust, tune, etc, etc, etc.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on November 29, 2014, 09:47:32 AM
Speaking of... no dyno tune as of yet, correct?   Any idea where you will take it?  Lethal Racing is a few hours West of me.  I have considered giving them a go for my high end stuff.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on November 29, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
Speaking of... no dyno tune as of yet, correct?   Any idea where you will take it?  Lethal Racing is a few hours West of me.  I have considered giving them a go for my high end stuff.

Josh
You are correct. No tune yet. Finding a tuner I trust to tune for daily driveability and horsepower will be my last big challenge. I've considered Lethal and Futral http://www.futralmotorsports.com (http://www.futralmotorsports.com)
Not sure which will get the business but it will probably be one of the two.

Any suggestions by anyone will of course be appreciated and considered. Frankly at this point I'm not ruling out any distance as long as I can get the service I need.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on November 29, 2014, 10:10:07 PM
LSX Power Tuning is who I used.

 It is a guy named Lorenz. He tuned my engine when I had an LS in my 240sx, and he tuned it in the FD.  Fast email communication and does mail order tunes. Can use HPTuners or EFI Live.

He is local to me, and is great to deal with... He has tuned thousands of LS cars.

Great price too.

lorenz@ls1powertuning.com
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on December 03, 2014, 07:00:25 AM

Any suggestions by anyone will of course be appreciated and considered. Frankly at this point I'm not ruling out any distance as long as I can get the service I need.

Lane

I expect you can find someone around your way but I had my car tuned by Doug at East Coast Supercharging in Cream Ridge NJ. They tune on a Dynapack and use HP Tuners or EFI Live etc.
All they tune are LS motors. They found an issue in my RPM tables that had been there for 3 years. If not for having their wealth of knowledge and experience; I expect it may never have been found. They also diagnosed a plug wire and fixed it. May sound like simple stuff but I've paid high prices for half baked work elsewhere more often then I want to admit.

These guys are on par with premier shops like Hennessey and Lingenfelter in my opinion. They are a very busy shop that fabricates their own FI systems but if you are interested give Chris a call. He could likely recommend to you someone in your area as they have authorized shops that install and tune their blower kits all over the country. They are familiar with and like the RX-7 swap having worked on my car 2 or 3 times.






Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 03, 2014, 09:27:04 AM
Thank you Mark and Mike. I'll definitely follow up on those leads once I get the car back and ready to be tuned :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 151 on December 05, 2014, 10:27:55 AM
I've just spent 3 hours at work looking over this, when i get home i'll spend 3 more and take notes this time as my car is apart being painted with a lot of engine bay work...my wiring is very shawty from the previous owner. I'll go ahead and start tackling that headache while all the bodywork/paint is being done.. I definitely am interested in the sound deadening you used, my interior is tan and black :barf: and im going to convert it to black as the car goes together..u just made my to-do list alot longer :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on December 05, 2014, 10:38:05 AM
Halfspec is the Magnus Walker of the RX-7 community.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 05, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
I want to see no more bumps of this that aren't Lane posting pictures!   I get all excited every time!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on December 05, 2014, 05:23:46 PM
Sorry Blake.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 05, 2014, 05:44:42 PM
Sorry Blake.

(http://pics.schwippy.com/forums/images/ban_him.jpg)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 10, 2014, 04:20:55 PM
In the booth  :yay:

http://vid917.photobucket.com/albums/ad14/halfspec/RX7%20Paint/20141210_142515_001_zpstrwoogus.mp4 (http://vid917.photobucket.com/albums/ad14/halfspec/RX7%20Paint/20141210_142515_001_zpstrwoogus.mp4)

Open header too!
(http://z.about.com/d/motorcycles/1/0/V/s/-/-/South_Park_Harleys.jpg)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on December 10, 2014, 04:51:47 PM
You some kind of Fag or something?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 10, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
John is doing his best to keep everyone on the edge of their seat for the next step  :popcorn:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141210_142725_zps06j23jal.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141210_142544_zps5mcsttnl.jpeg)

I'd say he's doing a good job of it  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on December 10, 2014, 11:16:36 PM
Whatadick.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: piglet on December 10, 2014, 11:27:15 PM
uhhhh, is it just me- or does this guys paint booth look like it has fun house walls?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 11, 2014, 03:41:12 PM
It's happening right now!!!  :o

Roof after 2nd clear coat:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_135614_zpsvnmgvvjp.jpeg)

Roof after 3rd clear coat:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_142553_zpsoth287qq.jpeg)

Door jambs after 3rd CC:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_142702_zpsyj3uiw7i.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_142719_zpsraoojy92.jpeg)

Mystery reflection pic
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_142449_zpsts0gfd8q.jpeg)

(http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/522fab3fc26b4.gif)

The best is still to come. John is teasing me with these in process pics ;)

Mmmmm... I can just smell the sweet fumes of victory up here in Starkville

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on December 11, 2014, 04:09:34 PM
you are making me a very very jealous man

love it
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Nfinitecc on December 11, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
I've done paint and body my whole life and I can say that's some damn good looking black right there!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 11, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Man, that came out terrible.  Ship it directly to me so that you don't have to deal with driving it.

:D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 11, 2014, 05:20:21 PM
Getting better as it dries and levels  :cheers:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_155652_zpstmjqasw6.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_155627_zpsozbbqp12.jpeg)

First clear pic of those sexy quarters:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_155546_zpsjjuornek.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141211_155608_zpsfx6q2kgq.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on December 11, 2014, 05:38:41 PM
Wow. All this anticipation and that's it. I was at least expectating some tits in the reflection.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 11, 2014, 05:42:12 PM
Wow. All this anticipation and that's it. I was at least expectating some tits in the reflection.

I think John's girl is fun, but not that fun  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on December 11, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
Looks fantastic bro.  I assume he will be color sanding before buffing?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 11, 2014, 08:24:13 PM
Looks fantastic bro.  I assume he will be color sanding before buffing?

Of course  8)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on December 11, 2014, 11:20:27 PM
That second cell phone reflection pic looks like a mirror. :o
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 12, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
Thanks Matt.

From my other thread I just lifted the curtain on my exhaust build:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=21141.msg275209#msg275209 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=21141.msg275209#msg275209)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust-final-color_zps163c5b56.jpg)

 :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on December 13, 2014, 02:46:13 AM
I may have missed it, and I don't know if you had something against stamped Y-pipes and wanted the splayed only (for some reason.)

But I used a Flowmonster 3" Y-Pipe... It is great IMO. $28.88... Very hard to beat for a shaped piece of steel.

http://flowmonster.com/i-6507689-fmy300-flowmonster-3-x-3-universal-y-pipe-adapter.html (http://flowmonster.com/i-6507689-fmy300-flowmonster-3-x-3-universal-y-pipe-adapter.html)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2014, 10:06:56 AM
Hey Mark

It's all in the thread above. The biggest reason is that the splayed Y let's me get closer to the t56 outlet. Regular Y's require that your header piping straighten out before connecting to the Y's inlet. The splayed takes the pipes as they curve around the tranny. It's space saving in a tight spot and with the resonator I need every inch I can get  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on December 13, 2014, 12:20:02 PM
Looks fantastic bro.  I assume he will be color sanding before buffing?

Of course  8)

Lane

Choiccce!  Can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on December 13, 2014, 03:16:40 PM
I'd be careful with all the V bands under the car for the resonator options. They can very easily catch on things when they are in the middle of the car like that. If that resonator fits under the car without compromising ground clearance I'd weld it in and leave it. It is going to sound better with all of your tailpipe options if it fits.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on December 13, 2014, 03:25:35 PM
I'd be careful with all the V bands under the car for the resonator options. They can very easily catch on things when they are in the middle of the car like that. If that resonator fits under the car without compromising ground clearance I'd weld it in and leave it. It is going to sound better with all of your tailpipe options if it fits.
Like usual, I agree. There is no reason to take the resonator out, it won't effect performace.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2014, 03:44:35 PM
We'll see. I've already committed to the plan and Anthony should have 90% of the parts in his hands.

The resonator is 4.5" tall so I don't really see the v-bands being taller than it. If any of the assembly drops below the existing header v-bands I'll be surprised.

I should also mention that I have two trans brace options to decide between during the header to Y fabrication. I can either use Kevin doe's original brace from his dual 3" which would allow the 3" pipes from the header to go over the brace or I can use the samberg brace and go under. Whatever gives the best options for clearance will be used and the resonator will be tucked as high as possible.

 :cheers:
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on December 13, 2014, 03:47:35 PM
What're you doing for hangars?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2014, 03:57:22 PM
What're you doing for hangars?

Material or location?

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on December 13, 2014, 04:06:51 PM

The biggest reason is that the splayed Y let's me get closer to the t56 outlet. Regular Y's require that your header piping straighten out before connecting to the Y's inlet.

I've got JTR headers as well, and I got it to fit right about where I think you are talking about. I also had a fatter-than-a-resonator catalytic converter when you wanted a resonator. I eventually ended up replacing it with a flex pipe which seems to be more of a shape of a resonator...

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/markfluko/RX7/20130209_161610_zps3aa24bc2.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/markfluko/RX7/20130209_175545_zps345d2c62.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/markfluko/Mobile%20Uploads/20140607_140121_zpsghhgulfs.jpg)


I'm just trying to save you some $$$ haha... If I remember correctly I thought buying a splayed Y-pipe was well over $80, but there may be some cheaper options than when I last looked.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on December 13, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
That looks like a nice setup.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on December 13, 2014, 04:48:01 PM


I'm just trying to save you some $$$ haha...

Have you seen his paint job, money is no object to Lane...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 13, 2014, 09:34:38 PM
What're you doing for hangars?

Location wise I'll most likely rig up a trick little bracket like Kevin did on his true dual that provides a suspension rod right after the trans outlet:

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/ExhaustCompleted2.jpg)

The another around the dip under the cobra subframe. Oh yeah everybody! The above pic shows you my current trans brace. You can see that with that setup a resonator + v-bands would have very good ground clearance which is what I've been counting on during the design of my exhaust.



I'm just trying to save you some $$$ haha...

Have you seen his paint job, money is no object to Lane...

Haha! That is definitely not the case. Remember I have a wife and kid now  :P The paint and exhaust work got paid for after saving for it all 2014 and I'm almost out of $!!! Last project is a meager audio system.

Thanks Marc. Your setup definitely looks nice. Don't take my stubbornness as a being snooty about your most excellent exhaust build. I guess I'm just really trying to keep the header->Y->resonator stack as short as I could imagine to allow space for v-bands, better ground clearance (due to position options), and not make John hate me when he takes on the fabrication. Anthony is fabricating the splayed Y for me and his price was very reasonable.

I've spent almost 3 years thinking about what I wanted in this exhaust and I'm anxious to see how it plays out. Everything has been paid for at this point so there's no turning back haha

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 151 on December 14, 2014, 12:09:35 AM
Lane, I sent you a PM...althought I'm not sure my Pm's are working as I have sent a couple others with no response..will you check and let me know?  :gruffy:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 14, 2014, 12:24:51 AM
Lane, I sent you a PM...althought I'm not sure my Pm's are working as I have sent a couple others with no response..will you check and let me know?  :gruffy:

Sorry Michael. The only PM I received from you got buried on a busy day. I just sent you a reply.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on December 14, 2014, 01:03:31 AM
Lane after all that work you can't go cheap with a single. Come on,, go double it is worth it.





If you go from a V straight to a muzzler you are going to kill your flow. At least have a short run before the muzzler.  It is an easy HP gain at this point in the rebuild.  If you want pic's of mine I will PM you ( but I got to jack the car up)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 14, 2014, 09:01:31 AM
Triple post! Geez! (on my phone)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 14, 2014, 09:03:06 AM
Double post
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 14, 2014, 09:04:47 AM

Lane after all that work you can't go cheap with a single. Come on,, go double it is worth it.





If you go from a V straight to a muzzler you are going to kill your flow. At least have a short run before the muzzler.  It is an easy HP gain at this point in the rebuild.  If you want pic's of mine I will PM you ( but I got to jack the car up)

Haha! I can assure you, going this route isn't the 'cheap' option and I'm not v'ing straight into a muffler ;)

I've made my peace with the flow restriction:

"too small" is relative. I'm determined to use this car as a DD and part of my DD requirement is a tolerable exhaust which is hardly wild ever since I hit my thirties. I've given a lot of thought to the matter and even though I know some HP will be lost I'd rather pay the price of continuously lost HP due to restriction than deal with the continuous noise levels I'd get from a race spec exhaust that more than a few folks here think is necessary for any configuration.  :D

Lane



Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: theantirotor on December 14, 2014, 09:10:22 AM
This is a forged 383 stroker motor and you are going single 3"? That doesn't even make sense
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on December 14, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
(http://www.srtforums.com/forums/attachments/f169/43600d1236224073-check-out-turbo-omfg-tiny-exhaust.jpg)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on December 14, 2014, 10:33:03 AM
I am with Lane on this one.  For a daily driven car, a strong level of civility is required.  Its definitely nice to have a a nice rumble, but anything that drones your face off gets old immediately.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on December 14, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
You'll be fine with the 3 inch single, the car will be plenty quick. My 600+ hp CTSV uses a dual 2.5 exhaust crimped in a couple places. It runs fine and is quiet.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on December 14, 2014, 11:42:32 AM
Lane you have seen my dyno sheet on my LS3 with a 3" single. Makes plenty of power. Wasn't too loud and I didn't even have a resonator. With a resonator it should sound great and not be too loud for long trips.

Mine was a little loud for those long hour or 2 trips where you may want to enjoy the radio or some conversation. I think your plan is solid.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on December 14, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
Don't take my stubbornness as a being snooty about your most excellent exhaust build. I guess I'm just really trying to keep the header->Y->resonator stack as short as I could imagine to allow space for v-bands, better ground clearance (due to position options), and not make John hate me when he takes on the fabrication. Anthony is fabricating the splayed Y for me and his price was very reasonable.

I've spent almost 3 years thinking about what I wanted in this exhaust and I'm anxious to see how it plays out. Everything has been paid for at this point so there's no turning back haha

Lane

No stubbornness taken. I'm not here trying force anything haha.

My exhaust build is made of aluminized steel and is far from perfect... I can't play with that stainless mula.

Just trying to give you as many options as possible.  :yay:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BLKMGK on December 15, 2014, 12:46:16 AM
I've owned a nice car of a different marque for several years now that drones. No one wants to ride in it, no one wants to drive it, and I've put few miles on it as a result. Your hearing suffers and you get headaches and it just sucks when you've got a nice car that you can't enjoy. I'm finally biting the bullet and spending the cubic dollars to get an exhaust I'll be able to drive with after hearing something decent on someone else's car, it's about time!

Your car, particularly with the art that is this new paint job, deserves to be driven! A few hp lost isn't going to wipe the smile from your face and will allow you to enjoy it far more as will those around you. Wise choice! Besides, sleepers are fun ;-)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 15, 2014, 04:38:11 PM
Thanks for the support guys. I think the exhaust as designed will suit my goals very well  :cheers:

Now back to the much more interesting and flashy subject of paint  :yay:

John continues to blow my mind with a quick round of colorsanding and buffing
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141215_133653_zps3c7wtw3o.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141215_135025_zpsdi9xsdce.jpeg)

I've literally been staring at the above pictures for 20 minutes in shock. After my last paint job I've just accepted that I'd never have paint that looks this good. Seeing this completely knocks me on my ass. It's like its someone elses car. Not mine.

Now back to my office chair to sit, stare, and drool  :P

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on December 15, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--BX9ypSHO--/17mt7bowxcozljpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on December 15, 2014, 05:58:19 PM
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Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: paul_3rdgen on December 15, 2014, 06:48:50 PM
To be honest I'm in shock at how good the paint looks in pictures.... It probably looks even better in person.  Congrats!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on December 15, 2014, 07:31:03 PM
Balls!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: paul_3rdgen on December 15, 2014, 07:36:57 PM
^lmao.  I really wanna know how much that shit is costing. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 17, 2014, 05:12:16 PM
More pron for you pervs   :yay:

The chassis is out in the wild:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141216_145514_2_zpszk7gdwpn.jpeg)

So you know what that means......

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_140734_zpsdhd89dje.jpeg)

And here we are after the first clear coat:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_153418_zpscdxavig6.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_153407_zpsb3h5m10c.jpeg)

Going back for a second:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_154622_zpsuzxmktnw.jpeg)

And boom goes the dynamite!

Hatch:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_155712_zpsypaow1qb.jpeg)

Sunroof:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_155723_zpscpb6vnxo.jpeg)

Passenger Door:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_155736_zpsfq0fhqme.jpeg)

Driver's Door:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_155820_zpsmev4j7uf.jpeg)

HOOOOOD!  :o
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_155807_zpss6odbw3d.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_155757_zpsakxgi3jz.jpeg)

Needless to say John has wrecked the rest of my work day

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1509492/snl-excited-o.gif)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on December 17, 2014, 05:32:52 PM
Amazing work!

I think you need to buy more underwear Lane.  :poke:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on December 17, 2014, 07:55:09 PM
I thought I seen a flaw. Turned out my computer screen was dirty.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on December 17, 2014, 09:08:15 PM
Words can't describe how awesome that looks. If I make it down your way, I hope you grant me access to check it out in person.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 18, 2014, 09:25:10 AM
Haha! Thanks guys. Of course everyone that wants to make the hike down here can have a look when she's done  :cheers:
And yes, I'm planning on wearing adult diapers for the trip down when I pick the car up  :yay:

A couple more teasers when John finished up yesterday:

Passenger door after 3rd clearcoat:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_164448_zpsz5dtfd6o.jpeg)

Hatch reflection after 3rd clearcoat:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_164519_zpsesetlehz.jpeg)

Stripped off the masking paper while wet to avoid a hard mask line:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141217_164418_zps1sqowrcu.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: kinger on December 18, 2014, 09:50:26 AM
Is there a car in there?  All I see is mirrors?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: orion4096 on December 18, 2014, 10:39:10 AM
When does the bubble arrive?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on December 30, 2014, 03:03:48 PM
When does the bubble arrive?

Haha! Soon  8)

Some assembly pics for the junkies:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141226_094705_zpstb9r6sfx.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141226_094717_zpsitksawml.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141230_123232_zpsbsu8juwa.jpeg)

John's also keeping busy working on the little bits:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141223_134332_zpstvwz5x9g.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20141230_131536_zpsbx13yb7o.jpeg)

I expect the next shot in the booth to be coming up pretty soon :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mattster03 on December 30, 2014, 03:14:43 PM
Looks incredible... hope you're paying this guy by the job, not by the hour  :P
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: spacevomit on December 30, 2014, 03:54:32 PM
You know, for those code brown moments (happens to the best of us), Butterfly™ pads are much less bulky than a full diaper, allowing you to prance down the beach in white manpris. For leakage only though, sorry, no solid logs. They will compromise it's structural integrity. This could lead to a catastrophic failure.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on December 30, 2014, 04:21:31 PM
we should make molds off your perfect body panels before they are assembled, a better plug probably doesn't exist, think of the carbon parts we could make
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on December 31, 2014, 11:06:32 AM
That is a really clean paint job, congratulations. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 06, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Thank you guys. Your comments help me believe that I'm not crazy for taking it this far  :bacon:


Looks incredible... hope you're paying this guy by the job, not by the hour  :P

It's by the hour, but John's rates are very affordable  :drive:


Exterior Paint is DONE bitches  8)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150103_131230_zps7nxygdyr.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_143825_zps7spr1gvi.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_143951_zpsdagpgfom.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_130508_zpssxdte1dr.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_144828_zpseibjuvnm.jpeg)

John's now moving on to tint and the painting my interior pieces

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150105_173649_zps7chwc3rq.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_093624_zpsya5fiqb8.jpeg)

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Dgosi8Mp41Q/hqdefault.jpg)

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Negrok20r on January 06, 2015, 04:43:01 PM
cleannnnn !!!
Where is this John guy located?? 
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 06, 2015, 04:45:14 PM
cleannnnn !!!
Where is this John guy located?? 
 

In a secret location around Jackson, MS... Nobody try and steal my car before I can go pick it up ok  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 06, 2015, 04:57:20 PM
More interior painting / priming process pics :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_155118_zpsriwcfdu8.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_155111_zpscysvel9q.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_155122_zpseblmofc5.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Negrok20r on January 06, 2015, 05:00:32 PM
Lol^^
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on January 06, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
Not a fan of the gray primer look... To each his own.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 06, 2015, 05:34:04 PM
Not a fan of the gray primer look... To each his own.

(http://i.imgur.com/kQGlLWf.png)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on January 06, 2015, 05:47:33 PM
Should have used red primer. You done goofed.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 06, 2015, 05:52:16 PM
Should have used red primer. You done goofed.

I actually had a guy on supraforums that seriously reprimanded me / John for not using dark colored epoxy primer for the exterior paint in my mirror thread over there... It's a cute albeit long read:

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?846346-Mississippi-Paint-Pro-Painting-my-RX7-Going-from-the-worst-to-the-best&p=11068017&viewfull=1#post11068017 (http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?846346-Mississippi-Paint-Pro-Painting-my-RX7-Going-from-the-worst-to-the-best&p=11068017&viewfull=1#post11068017)

I didn't really get into it with him as I didn't want the thread to get off track but via John, epoxies don't usually react well to the addition of pigment (at least not what we were using per the datasheet).

:banghead:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BLKMGK on January 06, 2015, 07:20:24 PM
Judging from the high quality of the work, especially compared to the last job, I'd say this guy knows what he's doing and I'd trust him completely. Hell I'd do backflips if he said it would improve the finish - his work is art!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on January 06, 2015, 10:46:10 PM
Go on about the epoxy tint thing.  I plan on using it for my wife's CJ7.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on January 07, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Before going on supraforums you need to sit on the edge of your bed and pluck out your ball hair to get in the right frame of mind.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on January 07, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Before going on supraforums you need to sit on the edge of your bed and pluck out your ball hair to get in the right frame of mind.

Hahahaha, laughed out loud, hot coffee up my nose - that's exactly how I feel about some forums lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Nfinitecc on January 07, 2015, 01:14:46 PM
I painted for years and the method you're using is fine, does it take a little more base? Sure but the parts are so small who cares
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 07, 2015, 05:46:37 PM
Go on about the epoxy tint thing.  I plan on using it for my wife's CJ7.

There's really nothing to go on about. There's no one, most right, way to skin a cat and I don't think it could be more true in the field of body work and paint. The guy on SF just didn't consider that there are people out there that are equally / more talented than him that use different methods / tricks to get their outcome. I say go with what gets results. John's getting the results I'm been dreaming of for years so why start a fight with some random on the internet?

For the tinted primer I'm sure you can do it that way. If you dig into the datasheets and the cost and benefits are the same between tinted and non tinted and you're painting the car with a dark base I'd say go tinted. In my case, from memory, we were using primer that explicitly stated in the datasheet that it does not recommend adding pigment into the mix, so it was a no brainer.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: quinns on January 07, 2015, 08:19:02 PM
What'd you guys use to fill the cruise on/off switch hole in the gauge surround.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 07, 2015, 10:08:33 PM
What'd you guys use to fill the cruise on/off switch hole in the gauge surround.

I used kitty hair to close the hole originally. Not sure what John used to skim it over with
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on January 07, 2015, 10:21:27 PM
New traction control button.  8)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on January 07, 2015, 10:23:11 PM
I need to see this car assembled!   Sweet Mary that paint looks magnificent!   You have to be super happy with the work. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Gunnytron on January 08, 2015, 02:45:55 AM
I couldn't live with paintwork that nice. I would never use the car in fear of a stone chip or even finger prints.

Looks insanely good though.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 08, 2015, 08:24:21 AM
I need to see this car assembled!   Sweet Mary that paint looks magnificent!   You have to be super happy with the work. 

It's at the point where things are going back together. John's assembling it in his dust cave  ;)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150107_151154_zpsvhqqo7xt.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150107_151205_zpsekpjlmev.jpeg)

We're waiting on a windshield, then the glass will be able to go back in.

While John had the interior parts primed the other day I made a last minute request which he happily accommodated.  I had 4 holes drilled in the top of my column cover which I was using to mock up a traction control mount. Now that the TC is mounted in the DIN slot I requested that they be filled in:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_163954_zps7pcqu6wa.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_163847_zpsevjdffct.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150106_171747_zpsknqb8rfr.jpeg)

John also made a really cool suggestion which we're moving forward with. He suggested replacing my door catches with catches from a lexus, which have a little black cover which adds to the blacked out look. We've already done a lot to really made the jambs stand out so I was interested in taking them to the next level. Here is a comparison shot:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150107_130941_zpsktorottl.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150107_130818_zpsbbziqero.jpeg)

 :drive:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 08, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
Switching gears. Remember my exhaust plan from last month?

This one?

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust-final-color_zps163c5b56.jpg)

Looks like Anthony is holding up his end of the bargain  :yay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust1_zps5c1eeea5.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust2_zps3bc69de3.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust3_zps87a59967.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust4_zpsf6dca21b.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust5_zpsb8dc1471.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust6_zpsba10aaf4.jpg)

(http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/Ron-Swanson-is-excited.gif)

Saying I'm excited is a major understatement  :bacon:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on January 08, 2015, 02:34:05 PM
Jealousy consumes me everytime you update your build thread. Thanks a lot, dick.

Kidding, of course!  :) Looking awesome as usual! Love the subtlety of the black door catches.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on January 08, 2015, 02:35:45 PM
Man, that exhaust makes me want to redo mine in SS and learn how to mig weld.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on January 08, 2015, 02:40:08 PM
<SARCASM>  Geeze, it's too bad Anthony can't weld...   </SARCASM>








This thing is turning out to be pretty freaking ridiculous.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 08, 2015, 03:07:55 PM
haha! Thanks guys! I'm really starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel now. I really appreciate all the comments and encouragement. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself when this thing is running like its supposed to and sitting in my garage looking like a million bucks  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Sho Amo on January 08, 2015, 04:13:53 PM
Its all in the details...

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: V8-rx7 on January 08, 2015, 08:04:43 PM
To think you were going to throw in the towel and sell it not so long ago.....

But seriously Lane the whole car is coming out awesome.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on January 08, 2015, 08:43:20 PM
Anthony even used his own car for mockup? What a guy!

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on January 08, 2015, 08:44:36 PM
haha! Thanks guys! I'm really starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel now. I really appreciate all the comments and encouragement. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself when this thing is running like its supposed to and sitting in my garage looking like a million bucks  :cheers:

Lane


You better drive the piss out of it.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 08, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
Too think you were going to throw in the towel and sell it not so long ago.....

Exactly! Then there's the flipside of the coin. Someone else could be getting similar end results if they'd jumped on the deal last January. I had so many haters caught up on the cracked windshield, defective paint, and no radio it wasn't even funny lol!
Ah well. I'm glad it didn't sell now :D

You better drive the piss out of it.

Absolutely! This lazy bitch has queened around in my garage way too long already. No more sitting and serving as a permanent decoration.  Time she put out and pay for her keep, and since I'm in MS, that means my driving season never really ends  :drive:

Lane




Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 17, 2015, 03:11:19 PM
Rough week for me and the family. Wife got the flu last Friday then my 6 month old caught it days later despite our precautions and quarantine at her grandparents for 5 days. Despite this, progress continues to be made on John's end  :cheers:

As you know, I had Anthony build my mufflers, y-pipe, resonator, and straight pipe sections. Here's another picture of his handiwork:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_161435_zpsrgyoaux6.jpeg)

While the fabricated parts from Anthony were on their way I hooked John up with some goodies. By goodies I mean a buttload of 304 stainless including straight 3" a U-J pipe, v-bands, 3/8" rod, and rubber insulators!

Yesterday John laid down the law on my exhaust build and really showcased his fabrication skills :)

Here's the first picture I got yesterday!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_133935_zpsqurllimz.jpeg)

You can see that we ended up going back to a Samberg trans mount. I was previously using the Kevin Doe trans mount that came with my previous dual 3" exhaust. I told John he had the option to use either one and it was his call based of what would make it easiest for him to fabricate around. He chose Samberg and I have to say, after seeing this picture I'm ecstatic about the choice. My concern was that the Samberg mount wouldn't be able to get as good a ground clearance as Kevin's mount, but you can see that John was able to get this going in the right direction right from the start  :bacon:

Here's the picture I've been absolutely drooling over ever since he sent it over:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_141955_zpsngt1jgbx.jpeg)

THIS is the reason I wanted the splayed Y. That's not to say that the splay made the fabrication trivial. I know John spent a LOT of careful planning and fitting to get such a straight line gorgeous merge. Awesome work all around. Anthony hooked me up with exactly what I wanted and John knocked it out of the park by integrating it perfectly  :D

Here's a side view showing John's attention to ground clearance:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_143454_zpsrh6jhs7m.jpeg)

I'm very happy with the view. The v-band bolts will of course be turned around when we get it on the road, but even down I'd say we're headed in the right direction :)

Tapping into the U-J pipe supply for bends to get around the cobra rear end
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_151254_zpsi0bxmoei.jpeg)

What WHAT!!! Showcasing the Oval Vibrant muffler with custom tip!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_160024_zpsgugwg7zp.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_160012_zps5u4ii7yq.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_161337_zpswxssl1w8.jpeg)

Vibrant Round
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150116_171548_zpskizslrtt.jpeg)

As you can see. John's only tacked everything together the hangers still need to be designed, but we're getting very close! I can't wait to hear this baby sing!!!!

Can't thank John and Anthony enough for the work done to date. Getting the exhaust done the way I wanted has been a major roadblock for me in MS. Seeing this come together in one afternoon was an unbelievable experience  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: FC3S Murray on January 17, 2015, 11:54:40 PM
Man I am getting excited like it is my very own build! :). Such outstanding work! In the wise words of Yoda; "Patience have I little for finale of this build,mnmmmm"
[smg id=7259 type=full align=center caption="bigyoda2"]
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on January 18, 2015, 12:33:16 PM
Man, Just awesome. I bet you have a serious fourth grade boner right now.

 Can you see how much Anthony would charge for another splayed Y just like that?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 18, 2015, 02:25:59 PM
Thanks guys!

I would guess that the best course for getting a quote for another splayed Y would be to ask Anthony directly. I never got a breakdown for each part. I just got a quote for everything he did, so I can't offer much help. Sorry. PM V8-rx7. I'm sure he can fix you up :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Chigliakus on January 18, 2015, 06:08:50 PM
I went with a vibrant oval rear muffler as well (although 3.5") and with a Y to mid muffler off my JTR headers, and I absolutely love the sound.  I was worried it'd be too loud but it's perfect, I think you'll be happy with this exhaust setup.  Paint looks amazing too.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 23, 2015, 08:25:08 AM
I went with a vibrant oval rear muffler as well (although 3.5") and with a Y to mid muffler off my JTR headers, and I absolutely love the sound.  I was worried it'd be too loud but it's perfect, I think you'll be happy with this exhaust setup.  Paint looks amazing too.

Thanks man! I know I can't wait to hear it roar! John can't wait either :D

Speaking of the exhaust, here's a little teaser showing how John designed two of the mounts for the exhaust:

Y support:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150122_125114_zpse2jyhdgy.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150122_125130_zpse1zl7vmf.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150122_130645_zpsfay8ur4q.jpeg)

Support behind the rear subframe:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150122_135236_zpslgjir84u.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/20150122_135310_zpstcbawkn2.jpeg)

As you can see they're both bolt on mounts which I very much like! I'm also very happy with the actual supporting points as I think they're pretty much spot on for ideal weight distribution. You can tell the rear support was no walk in the park as John wanted to make them bolt on and there aren't a whole lot of bolts back there lol!

Next step is the final weld up which will be SS tigged  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on January 23, 2015, 08:39:47 AM
Looking good!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 28, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
Looking good!!!

Spanks  :cheers:

I've been debating on whether to post this or not because it's just about the worst tease ever, but here's a clip that's a couple seconds long that John made showing the exhaust idling:

http://vid917.photobucket.com/albums/ad14/halfspec/RX7%20Paint/20150127_170116_001_zpsjyjrwzjc.mp4 (http://vid917.photobucket.com/albums/ad14/halfspec/RX7%20Paint/20150127_170116_001_zpsjyjrwzjc.mp4)
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Haha! Told you it was a tease!!! This is with the resonator on and an open wideband bung since the plug is still on the way. Even without the video showing a lot I'm already happy with how it sounds. It's deep and civil and that's what I was after :)

No other pictures / videos to post yet.  Stay tuned :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on January 28, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
I vote more pics/video or BAN!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on January 28, 2015, 10:51:36 PM
That's in the running for the shittiest video tease of all time.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 29, 2015, 08:45:50 AM
Haha!

The paint gods have heard our pleas and sent over a longer / better quality clip ;)

http://vid917.photobucket.com/albums/ad14/halfspec/RX7%20Paint/20150128_182641_zps21nhsfee.mp4
 (http://vid917.photobucket.com/albums/ad14/halfspec/RX7%20Paint/20150128_182641_zps21nhsfee.mp4)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: karsty on January 29, 2015, 10:43:57 AM
Doesnt seem to be working.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on January 29, 2015, 11:26:52 AM
Doesnt seem to be working.

It worked when it was first posted, but now it's not working for me either.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 29, 2015, 12:53:37 PM
Edited my above post. Hopefully it will work now. Sorry, my office just installed a web filter and it doesn't like photobucket so it makes error checking my links difficult   ::)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on January 29, 2015, 02:29:08 PM
(http://greenstateservices.com/images/products/detail/SoundOutEarMuffs.jpg)

I'll just leave these here for ya  :yay:

Lane

I seem to remember something about needing these?  You can have them back  :yay:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on January 29, 2015, 02:36:24 PM
I'll just leave these here for ya  :yay:

Lane

I seem to remember something about needing these?  You can have them back  :yay:

Actually. John said the exhaust really surprised him with how quiet it was. Hard to tell from the video, but I expect it's at least half as loud as my dual 3" :D
I'll letcha keep them  :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on January 30, 2015, 08:47:24 PM
Just half as loud eh.... I should be good.  LOL.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 03, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Glass was recently installed so we're back to ~watertight.  John took the opportunity to wash her down and prep for the final colorsand and buff:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150203_110433_zpst9h9zumz.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150203_110414_zps14d80xpg.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150203_110424_zpsrqyeqddh.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150203_110404_zpslnx3qaal.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150203_110353_zpspoettzx6.jpeg)

John's going to put the car in the paint booth to keep it clean until the buff.

 :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: babillaracing on February 03, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
looking good
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Sho Amo on February 03, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
Why are the front fenders dull looking?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 03, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
Why are the front fenders dull looking?

Good question!
They're color sanded to 3000 grit. They just need to be buffed. The other panels are just a little further along ;)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on February 03, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
Looking great.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: AKINA FC on February 03, 2015, 10:26:50 PM
Its going to be to nice to beat on haha  Looks great.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 28, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
Wanted to post a little update. Progress has stalled a little bit due to weather, other work John had to move out, and the availability of friends to help finish the final buff. Despite that, John sent me some cool updates this morning  :cheers:

Tint is in :)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150212_085813_zpsmvfngkqn.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150212_085405_2_zpshw5lyff8.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150212_085418_2_zpsrk7kagdp.jpeg)

It's 37% to keep myself in good standing with the local 5-O.

John has also been working on my interior pieces. Here are two shots of the texture base:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150213_112905_2_zps6wkncgon.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150213_112901_2_zpsuygpqqkd.jpeg)

It's SEM chip guard applied over a plastic adhesion promoter.

Finally, he topcoated it with a very thin two part PPG semi-gloss paint (I think that's right... it's been a couple months since we talked through the details):

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150228_114804_zpsvxzlh0fl.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150228_121630_zpsksol1sws.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150228_121623_zpsqhjtiz8t.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150228_121612_zpsmfg9evqx.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150228_121557_zpsas530kfg.jpeg)

Really liking the texture and the fact that its so jet black! The pics above are wet pics so we're waiting to see how matte the topcoat gets as it cures  :popcorn:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on February 28, 2015, 03:02:47 PM
One more: :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150228_125917_zpsea5zcwti.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 7m-gtte on February 28, 2015, 03:35:13 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on February 28, 2015, 07:10:56 PM
Better than stock.   I like it.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Simronrx7 on March 18, 2015, 07:57:38 PM
updates please!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: UH-60Pilot on March 18, 2015, 08:00:28 PM
He sold me the car.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 18, 2015, 08:03:45 PM
He sold me the car.

Shhhh! You weren't supposed to say anything!

 ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 18, 2015, 09:15:54 PM
updates please!!

We've had some hangups.

The first has been the weather. The snow up north has meant monsoons for the south. John's booth is nice but it's not a $30k heated booth with all the whistles so he has to factor in the weather at the extremes.

The second hangup has been my rear bumper. After painting it and letting it cure over the last couple of months it developed cracks in the paint. Sorta similar to what I had all over the car after the first paint job but much less severe. Well, John stripped it back and reprimed it with even more flex agent. After a few days the cracks started to appear again. He stripped it back again and set himeself up with a new primer system + flex agent thats made for priming 90s yellow Japanese fiberglass. A few days later the cracks started appearing again. John and his paint rep ran out of ideas and were understandibly frustrated. This is where John called to say that their best bet was that the bumper was dry rotting or losing its structural integrity due to age and exposure. They could continue upping the flex agent ratios past the reccomended, skim it with filler, oorr start with a new bumper. After talking it through we settled on the best solution being to look and see if I could get a new rear bumper cover. Talked to Ray and found out his rear cover is doing the same thing. Makes me worried that it may be something more people have to face going forward :(
Long story short, I coughed up the dough and got the last new rear cover in the USA headed Jackson. If the rain clears up we might get some nice results sooner rather than later.

On my off time I've been raising my daughter and spending every spare minute (only a few of those in the week) developing a handful of embedded gadgets that will help our community.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: cool on March 20, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
Lane,  you're aweome. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Heavyfoot on March 20, 2015, 01:15:39 PM

On my off time I've been raising my daughter and spending every spare minute (only a few of those in the week) developing a handful of embedded gadgets that will help our community.

Lane


Mystery embedded gadget group buy list.


1.Heavyfoot
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3.
4.
5.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Exidous on March 20, 2015, 03:29:58 PM
Kinda scared to paint my bumper now. It needs it more than any other part of the car.......previous owner over buffed the HELL out of the bumper above the muffler. Vinyl wrap?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on March 28, 2015, 02:55:47 PM
About to get things ramped up  :cheers:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150327_153508_zpszcczj4k2.jpeg)

Ray got us the bumper lightning fast and John has already jumped on it making the emblem holes history.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 01, 2015, 04:48:33 PM
Ahhhh That's better  :cheers:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150330_192640_zpsw6k6hf2d.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on April 01, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Damn looks good.

But I am confused. Did you sell the car?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 01, 2015, 05:04:09 PM
Damn looks good.

But I am confused. Did you sell the car?

Damn looks good.

But I am confused. Did you sell the car?

Nah. I was just playing along :)

Thank you
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 08, 2015, 09:25:53 PM
Exciting developments today! Out of the blue John jumped on knocking out the final polish and buffing. With the help of a friend they got a very nice start on getting the main parts of the body done. If you ask me, it looks finished, but he says "It is getting there" lol!

Oh yeah. Try and ignore my dirty ass tires. They were like that when I brought them to him. I think it may be the tire dressing I use. After all this time I think it's yellowed. Either that or their just filthy ass dirty.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_154135_zpspvr1o75v.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_153448_zps53lk8k6m.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_164626_zpsphq0lggs.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_164708_zpszhskzvwn.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_164636_zpsciy8hni4.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_164646_zpsp8amyyyh.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_164701_zpseuu3z0ps.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_142602_zpssf2wdctd.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150408_184248_zpsytttvmvl.jpeg)

The last shot is off a fender, which is unbelievable to me as they were in rough shape when I brought them do him (my dad literally fell on one the day I brought the car to John lol)

(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzA1LzUzL0VsZi45ZGQ2OC5naWYKcAl0aHVtYgkxMjAweDk2MDA-/1d3e18ff/b06/Elf.gif)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 08, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Oh yeah. Check out that sexy sexy tint :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on April 08, 2015, 09:50:52 PM
If you don't get this: http://www.amazon.com/Metro-Force-Master-Blaster-Dryer/dp/B002EKAI5Q (http://www.amazon.com/Metro-Force-Master-Blaster-Dryer/dp/B002EKAI5Q)

I will ban you! 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 7m-gtte on April 08, 2015, 09:52:27 PM
Yup. Jealous of the paint.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 08, 2015, 09:52:53 PM
John screwed up, you wanted the car black, not chrome mirror finish!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 09, 2015, 09:51:14 AM
If you don't get this: http://www.amazon.com/Metro-Force-Master-Blaster-Dryer/dp/B002EKAI5Q (http://www.amazon.com/Metro-Force-Master-Blaster-Dryer/dp/B002EKAI5Q)

I will ban you! 

Haha! I thought that was a joke for the first 5 minutes of looking at it... Then I realized it's real  :-[
I like the idea of zero contact drying. Seems like a lot of money for what it is. Seems like someone would have devised a hose system that connects to electric leaf blowers to do the job for less.... Hmmmm.... May have to explore this :D

John screwed up, you wanted the car black, not chrome mirror finish!

I think John just likes taking selfies ;)

Thanks guys. Big step yesterday. Can't wait to have it back in my garage even though I don't know how I'm going to find the time to finish up.

Lane

 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 17, 2015, 12:19:45 PM
My parts box is almost empty and it's looking like John and company are definitely going to wrap this month  :drive:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150414_110744_zpsngxgcuqa.jpeg)


Here's a pic of the buffing/polishing progress (passenger light cover is just sitting in-place)

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150414_110907_zpsfkaokwa7.jpeg)

Body is finished!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150416_131632_zps6ea4cd86.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150416_131624_zpswiurhxaz.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150416_131638_zpshmxkgrk0.jpeg)

Mmmmmhmmmm :D

Now its just down to getting the bumpers done.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on April 17, 2015, 01:08:18 PM
Holy crap that paint looks good!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 17, 2015, 03:05:45 PM
This paint job > your old paint job, haha.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on April 17, 2015, 03:11:40 PM
Awesome!!!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: paul_3rdgen on April 17, 2015, 06:51:54 PM
Looks really good.  Now you need a set of shinny wheels!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on April 17, 2015, 09:23:59 PM
looks like he did a good job
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 17, 2015, 10:16:13 PM
Thanks guys  :cheers:

This day just keeps getting better and better. John must be pulling a 24hr RX7 binge because he keeps sending be sneak peeks:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150417_174106_2_zpsoid7lybg.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150417_174113_2_zpsd2bpvutj.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150417_182640_zps8szshluo.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/e6e6a135-6f5e-47ef-a1b5-b6bce126c6ef_zpsnbqcmr4f.jpg)

Blowing me away. Bumpers are back on and look at that rocker panel! John convinced me to ditch the rock guard and now I'm convinced it was the right call! I know its going to worry me, but that's what clear bra is for. I'll have to protect it, but for now I'll continue drooling over these pics :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on April 17, 2015, 10:56:13 PM
Agreed. You need to do some machined faced wheels. Matte black won't due.

Looks great!!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 17, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
Aw you guys! I like my my wheels   :(
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 17, 2015, 11:08:44 PM
I like the wheels.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on April 18, 2015, 12:06:59 AM
I like the wheels too.. The car is just too nice for them now.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on April 18, 2015, 09:54:09 PM
I like the wheels too.. The car is just too nice for them now.

The car was too nice for FN01's the day it rolled off the assembly line haha.  I agree, needs some contrast and sharp shapes to set off how sillllkkkyyyy smooooooooth that body looks!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Rookie84 on April 20, 2015, 12:20:15 AM
Lane, it seems like your FD is finally getting the look it deserves to match all the work that had gone underneath. You do need some baller wheels now... gunmetal or gloss black wheels with polished lips would look simply amazing against that shiny black paint.  :D
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 20, 2015, 12:48:48 PM
I think y'all are just going to have to shield your eyes or something haha! I know they're cheap and heavy but I like them and the truth is I haven't even gotten to enjoy them so they'll be sticking around for a couple of years  :cheers:

So deal with it  ;)
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on April 20, 2015, 01:26:00 PM
Don't listen to them Lane, as long as you like them, that's all the matters!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on April 20, 2015, 01:43:52 PM
I know they're cheap and heavy

They're actually really light for their size haha, that and the concave face are the only redeeming qualities  :yay:

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BLKMGK on April 21, 2015, 08:26:19 PM
If this painter does this good a job on a regular basis and doesn't cost a million bux spread his name far and wide. That's a seriously nice job and if I had a car in need that I cared about I'd ship for a job that good!  :bacon:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: UH-60Pilot on April 22, 2015, 07:42:22 PM
Is it just me, or has this car been getting painted for the last year?

I've seen enough pictures of this awesome paint job, now start driving this thing! :drive:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 23, 2015, 11:56:23 AM
BLKMGK - That's what I'm trying to do. My car isn't some exotic supercar but I'm hoping it can pad his resume a little bit with all the pictures I've taken because it showcases a good bit of his skillset  :cheers:

UH-60Pilot: You're not far off. We're coming up on 10 months  8) I know because my daughter was born within days of the dropoff date. That's not to say that I'm frustrated or tired or waiting though. Quite the opposite actually. I've actually encouraged John to take other jobs while working on my car because to be frank, I wouldn't have had the time to work on it. Even now I'm wondering how I'm going to find the time to finish it, but I'll do my best to figure it out :D So, while the delivery date is 3x what we thought it would be I just want to re-emphasize that John was always in constant communication telling me where things stand and also giving me options to wrap it up faster. I just made the call to go at a more leisurely pace.

Still hoping to pick the car up within the next week or so. I've just got to knock out some beach time and R&R after an exhausting work trip in Indiana.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 23, 2015, 12:16:14 PM
What was you doing in Indiana, homeskillet?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 23, 2015, 12:34:31 PM
What was you doing in Indiana, homeskillet?

I spent a few days in Lafayette at a cable plant where my plant (it's new parent) is moving a 300ft manufacturing line. I was overseeing the move.
Exhausting 12-14hr days + all the travel time I had to put in has me waaay past due for some beach time drinking  :chug:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: scuter83 on April 23, 2015, 02:01:47 PM
You mean you didn't relax with all the things to do in Lafayette after the work day?

I joke because I went to college at Purdue in West Lafayette (other side of the river), and it seemed there wasn't much doing there, haha.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on April 23, 2015, 02:11:15 PM
I joke because I went to college at Purdue in West Lafayette (other side of the river), and it seemed there wasn't much doing there, haha.

Seems we have a couple Boilermakers on here.  :)

Lane - Too bad you aren't going this coming week, as I believe the Grand Prix (last big party week/weekend before finals) is coming up. From the small bits I can remember, it was always fun.  ;)

Regarding your build, I think everybody else has already said it but the paint looks awesome. Can't wait to see some rolling shots!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 23, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
Hah, yeah, another Boilermaker here.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 23, 2015, 09:05:44 PM
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150420_104804_zpshwcvewse.jpg)

I'm in the airport but damn, gotta post the latest :D

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on April 23, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I think the car/wheels combo looks good in that pic.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mefarri on April 23, 2015, 11:40:27 PM
Fuck.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Exidous on April 24, 2015, 06:01:45 AM
Damnit.....well I guess I'm staying black when I paint the car...
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 24, 2015, 07:26:37 AM
Yep, that'll do.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on April 27, 2015, 01:15:23 AM
Good move on the rock matt removal.  First thing I had done when mine was painted.  It brings the level of the car up.

Looks absolutely fantastic!

Btw, look into these guys for your tune.  I will be taking my car there.  Closer than Lethal and they have excellent reviews.  I spoke with them and they are on point.

http://northshorespeedshop.com/home.html (http://northshorespeedshop.com/home.html)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 1320king on April 28, 2015, 10:12:51 AM
GOOD GOD! so so so sexy
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 28, 2015, 10:42:23 AM
Thanks guys!
Josh - I'll definitely look into NSSS. I'll seriously have to follow up with you after you get your tune done to see how your experience went. If you're happy with them, I'll most likely go that way.

Two more teasers:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150427_145920_zpsrsgs2afs.jpeg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/20150427_145903_zps7hflbpkr.jpeg)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 28, 2015, 11:25:24 AM
Man that thing looks MEAN.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: markfluko on April 28, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
That first pic looks like you can dive into that rear quarter panel and swim around.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 30, 2015, 02:16:35 AM
Thanks guys.

Scheduled to pick her up this weekend  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Classy on April 30, 2015, 09:05:34 AM
What!!! I am excited to see how it looks once it is all put back together, imagine actually driving your car again!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on April 30, 2015, 04:15:33 AM
It's been a haul but worth it!
Can't wait to see the pics. Now get that thing tuned!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2015, 09:58:13 PM
It'ssss baaaaack  :yay:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW1990_zps2adetfq5.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW1985_zpskxikdvpp.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW1982_zpsvlfewt27.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW1975_zpspmlagemb.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW1972_zpsjosrt8jg.jpg)

I made the trip to pick her up on Saturday. Unfortunately I haven't had a lot of time to let it sink in. I had to go out of town in the opposite direction of jackson to get the trailer, then drive to and from Jackson, then back to the drop point for the trailer, then I switched vehicles and drove my family to a wedding shower so I was on the road all day Saturday. Then today I spent most of the day cleaning my house and garage to catch up on the micro vacation I took last week. On the garage side I had to make sure I had 4ft clearance around all sides of the rx7 + I had to remove any tipping/falling hazards :)
That's all to simply say I am still in shock. The car in the pictures is a little dusty with dust/pollen from the trip and I haven't cleaned it yet, but take my word for it; its breathtaking for me. I told John it was going to take a few weeks for it to sink in completely. Seeing the car in my garage sans the terrible paintjob and replace with THIS is just an unbelievable feeling :D

I'll be taking more pics and posting more details as soon as I can get the time to do so. In the meantime I'm just going to sit in my garage and drink a few drinks with my RX7  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on May 03, 2015, 10:40:51 PM
Awesome sauce. I was being serious about the blaster dryer. Keep that paint beautiful!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: fdrx7 on May 03, 2015, 04:34:56 PM
It looks flawless!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on May 03, 2015, 11:18:50 PM
Awesome sauce. I was being serious about the blaster dryer. Keep that paint beautiful!

Agreed!  A true investment.

http://youtu.be/_SgWQrAuQY8 (http://youtu.be/_SgWQrAuQY8)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on May 04, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
You definitely need some time to let it sink in.

May I suggest you go out in the garage tonight, lay down on the concrete in the dark next to the car (stripping naked is optional) and put this song on.

http://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w (http://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on May 04, 2015, 09:21:42 AM
You definitely need some time to let it sink in.

May I suggest you go out in the garage tonight, lay down on the concrete in the dark next to the car (stripping naked is optional) and put this song on.

http://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w (http://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w)

How did you know what I did over the weekend?  ;)

Car looks awesome Lane! Can't wait to see some driving shots after it's all cleaned up.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 04, 2015, 03:58:06 AM
XLR8 & wickedrx7 - I'm still on the fence with this. I like the idea but it seems like its underpowered to do a full car + its a lot of money for what it is. I'll have to continue reading about it and looking into reviews.

You definitely need some time to let it sink in.

May I suggest you go out in the garage tonight, lay down on the concrete in the dark next to the car (stripping naked is optional) and put this song on.

http://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w (http://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w)]http://youtu.be/GemKqzILV4w


I was thinking this was more of a job for Kenny G:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlfnedlb7iU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlfnedlb7iU)
 :yay:

Thanks guys. Really feeling good about the whole project again  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on May 04, 2015, 02:34:00 PM
Alot of money for a detailing tool, yes.  Underpowered, hell no.  My Air Force Blaster literally pushed a 6 ply heavy tranny box across the garage by just pointing at it.  I use it as a leaf blower for the paved areas of my property.  The thing is nasty strong...8hp twin motor.  Twice as much as a rotary!

On the tuner shop, I will definitely keep you posted.  I plan to write a full review.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jessethedrifter on May 04, 2015, 08:57:59 AM
Lane, everytime i see this thread bumped back up to the top of the build thread section it makes me soo glad you didn't sell the car.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Thank you for educating me Josh. I will definitely be on the lookout for the tuner review.

Thanks Jesse. The attempted sale was a dark time in this build. It's in a much better place now  :cheers:

John's refinish of my interior panels is knocking my socks off  :D

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/_GJW1997_zpsj39l6xl4.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/_GJW1999_zpsqormvenn.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/RX7%20Paint/_GJW2005_zpsbzmjwygq.jpg)

Stand by for more completed interior panel pics as it will take a while to get them reassembled  :chug:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: mattster03 on May 06, 2015, 02:34:45 PM
Are you willing to give a ball park on how much all this paint work cost?  I'm thinking it may be a little more than the $3,500 job I got on my old Yellow car  ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2015, 02:55:56 PM
Are you willing to give a ball park on how much all this paint work cost?  I'm thinking it may be a little more than the $3,500 job I got on my old Yellow car  ;)

Well you're right. I didnt scrape by under 3.5k ;)
The best I can do is tell you that the price I paid was less than half of what I would have expected to pay knowing what the outcome would be. For more specific pricing info I'll have to point you to the man himself.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on May 06, 2015, 10:09:38 PM
I'm guessing that is code for $10-$12k

This is some great work.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on May 06, 2015, 10:37:43 PM
just waiting for this car to go on sale again....... :poke:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on May 07, 2015, 08:07:55 AM
just waiting for this car to go on sale again....... :poke:

If it's ever "For sale" I doubt it will be "On Sale" if you know what I mean....
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on May 07, 2015, 01:12:34 PM
just waiting for this car to go on sale again....... :poke:

If it's ever "For sale" I doubt it will be "On Sale" if you know what I mean....

Lol'd.  Clever wordplay that's incredibly accurate right here.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on May 11, 2015, 05:30:06 PM
4 days without an update. I'm a little worried.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 11, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
4 days without an update. I'm a little worried.

Sorry

Mother's day and wife's birthday were back-to-back this weekend = no free weekend time
I'm also busting my ass finalizing my first pcb designed in over 5 years (last one was sr. design in college) that's related to my list of upcoming offerings. Having to relearn a lot from scratch. Hoping to get it done before I leave the country in the near future which would cut down on the time I spend actively waiting for it to get back from the board house.

I am about to finish up another interior panel though so that'll make a pretty picture :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: iHopeItWorks on May 12, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
Read in one sitting, disappointed in myself for not knowing it existed sooner.

So much respect.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 26, 2015, 05:39:35 PM

Read in one sitting, disappointed in myself for not knowing it existed sooner.

So much respect.

Thank ya brother  :cheers:

Here's the latest with the car. More interior panels.... haha. It seems like such small steps, but these things take time to get back together in perfect shape. I found some time to wrap up my HVAC panel this morning. I just recently came back from the Dominican Republic and everyone I traveled with got sick with various local illnesses. My mother and daughter are the last recipients and I stayed home with my daughter who's fighting a 102 degree fever this morning. However, she was asleep a lot so I filled my time with this.

I picked up a very good condition HVAC panel from Fritz over at the club a while back. Lucked out too because his panel was already stripped and only had one broken tab.

This piece of work starts with these:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2070_zpsloipobav.jpg)
The are HVAC dial indicator replacements by Black Cat Customs and can be purchased off their website. It's something I don't think a lot of people know about because when I found it I couldn't even find one picture of it installed. The reason for installing them is because 22 years has done a number on my dial indicators and taking my HVAC panel apart finished the job as the whole indicator de-laminated in the process. So yeah, if you're taking apart your HVAC panel be ridiculously careful with the OEM indicators, and if you break them, there are options for getting them back in order.

The dial indicators are very very nice and have adhesive backsides that you carefully stick onto the acrylic stock gauge supports. Here you can see the replacement dials and how they are designed to let the backlighting pass through:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2075_zpsoghhumtl.jpg)

Here are the acrylic gauge supports cleaned up and ready to have the new dials installed:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2073_zpskt1mdkb1.jpg)

Here is the fan level indicator being installed as well as a peek at the second trick in my assembly:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2077_zpsnwzbs9wb.jpg)

The trick was lifted from this thread:
http://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/eureka-fix-plastic-parts-kinda-long-w-pics-828143/ (http://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/eureka-fix-plastic-parts-kinda-long-w-pics-828143/)

It uses a product called plasti-aid which I was doubtful of at first but changed my mind.
I've tried everything to come up with solutions for fixing the FD's terrible plastics. Glues, epoxies, fiberglass, plastic welding (good but limited to certain situations), etc etc. All of it except for plastic welding is limited by one big thing. It's adhesion with the panel's ABS plastic. This stuff's liquid base is a STRONG solvent that melts ABS. That's really how it works. You mix in the second part and apply it to the panel and it melts into the panel so that it forms a very good bond. Very happy with it so far. The only downside is that it's messy and it sets up quick so you can be dealing with something runny and it will be the consistency of an elmers glue stick 30 seconds later. The nice thing is that adding more solvent takes it back to liquid form; so you'll constantly be mixing and adding while working with it.

Anyway, like the picture above shows, I'm reinforcing all the plastic standoffs on my interior panels because as anyone who's ever handled FD plastic's knows they're the first things to break / split.

Going together. Ahhhh 100% screw engagement feels soo sturdy :D
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2083_zpsjz0nmqij.jpg)

Another shot:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2086_zpskdvbfwma.jpg)

Get ready for the money shot  :D
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2099_zpse5yiun7f.jpg)

Bam
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2095_zps2nmo1jso.jpg)

 8)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Nfinitecc on May 26, 2015, 05:51:11 PM
Damn good looking panel lane, nice work.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on May 27, 2015, 08:57:09 AM
ahhh, yesss! I've been thinking about how I should refurbish my HVAC gauges and hadn't seen anybody doing it before.

This is exactly what I need! Thanks for sharing Lane.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 15, 2015, 10:21:11 PM
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/exhaust-final-color_zps163c5b56.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2356_zpshvjm1sgr.jpg)

I don't know about you but it's not every day I see a concept reproduced so faithfully.

Major props goes out to John and V8-rx7 for turning my doodles into literally the exhaust of my dreams  :cheers:

Why did I take it off besides to show it off? That's a story for tomorrow :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 17, 2015, 08:26:37 AM
More pics of the exhaust:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2357_zpsytadrluy.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2359_zpsobdlgobm.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2360_zpsclnqwlh0.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2363_zpszalv4bu9.jpg)

I removed it temporarily for 5 reasons:
1. I had to paint my samberg trans brace due to the fact I neglected to mention to John that it was mild steel and would rust
2. I had to patch up the holes in my floorboards left over from my kevin doe trans brace install then 3M underbody over the patches
3. There's a little work to be done between the resonator and the straight pipe. The straight pipe is slightly longer than the resonator so I'm sending it back to be shortened.
4. I'm redoing my tank to filter fuel line (don't like the on/off valve after all)
5. Swapping over to the oval muffler

Painting the samberg trance brace:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2381_zpsgbi2kut2.jpg)

A couple of interior panels finished:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2450_zpsfzlxgvlt.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2441_zpszpiocibp.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2454_zpsyuyoe84u.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW2458_zpswzzouurx.jpg)

I officially put an offer in on a new house due to a job change my wife is making and we listed our house yesterday. Trying to turn up the heat on the reassembly since I don't want to be moving a bunch of parts to the new house. With that in mind, I'm making a strong attempt at getting the RX7's audio system installed this week minus its amp and sub box.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jeffp5 on June 17, 2015, 11:18:39 AM
How do you like the 275/40/17 rears and 255/40/17 fronts? I have a set of 17x10's and i need new tires. I had previously run 255/40 all around. My concern with the 275/40 is the height, they look pretty tall in your pictures.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 17, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
How do you like the 275/40/17 rears and 255/40/17 fronts? I have a set of 17x10's and i need new tires. I had previously run 255/40 all around. My concern with the 275/40 is the height, they look pretty tall in your pictures.



The 275/40/17s are great. I wish I could run them up front and forgo the stretch with the 255s. I haven't had any issues with height but I run coilovers. I haven't rubbed on any quarter so far but I do have less than 1k miles on the car so take that for what its worth.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on June 17, 2015, 02:49:00 PM
I was like "That exhaust build looks so familiar!"  Just realized it was Anthony's work. lol  Make sure you wipe it down with WD-40 after install.  You don't want fingerprints to burn in on the metal.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 17, 2015, 10:30:43 PM
I was like "That exhaust build looks so familiar!"  Just realized it was Anthony's work. lol  Make sure you wipe it down with WD-40 after install.  You don't want fingerprints to burn in on the metal.

Seriously? I would start googling but I'm putting a todler to bed.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on June 18, 2015, 02:10:53 PM
I was like "That exhaust build looks so familiar!"  Just realized it was Anthony's work. lol  Make sure you wipe it down with WD-40 after install.  You don't want fingerprints to burn in on the metal.

Seriously? I would start googling but I'm putting a todler to bed.

Lane

Yeah that's what Anthony told me when I picked mine up.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on June 18, 2015, 03:11:10 PM
Yep it's true.  Make sure you clean it off before firing.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 18, 2015, 05:09:04 PM
Well that's very good to know. I'll make sure I wipe it down during final assembly. Thank you for the education fellas  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 13, 2015, 10:17:10 AM
I've made a good bit of progress over the last couple of weeks and have a couple of pics to share. Some of the pictures aren't ready yet as I my interior is still a mess, but I'm hoping to post some inside shots soon.

Audio Install:
I'm pretty deep into my audio install. What's been done so far:
1. Installed my headunit (Pioneer DEH-80PRS for an active 3way setup). This is the first time I've had a headunit in the dash during my 6 years of ownership!
2. Ran wires for my tweeters in the A-pillars (to accompany the wiring I've already done for my door woofers and subs)
3. Designed and bought materials to build my DamonB inspired sub box to house 2 Image Dynamic ID8 rev3 subs. All materials purchased except the 0.5" MDF I need simply because I can't find it locally and am having it ordered. Can't go 0.75" because I'll lose volume and with two 8" subs I'm already at the low end of my volume requirements.
4. Built and installed 3 pairs of my own RCA cables. I built these simply because I wanted tailored lengths. If I had to do it over again, I'd just pay some kid in the diymobileaudio forums to build them for me  :-[
5. Purchased Zapco ZSL-165 shallow mount 6.5" components
6. Purchased JBL GTO-5EZ amp (150watts to each front woofer (4ohms )and 500watts to the subs (2ohms parallel))

Things left to do:
1. Construct Sub box and install
2. Modify woofer brackets to accept Zapco woofers (bowl edges are too wide and the brakets need to be notched to accommodate them) and install
3. Mount and install tweeters
4. Finalize my antenna mount/wiring
5. Wire and tune

Some pictures to go along with the audio install notes above:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150701_192846319_zpshjnpxqui.jpg)
RCAs
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150712_164901158_zpsl4hrr89c.jpg)
Antenna adapter (see engineering thread)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150712_181928604_HDR_zps2k1z0ryc.jpg)
Mocked up antenna + ASS shot #1
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150712_181945406_zps7l9piqqg.jpg)
Mocked up antenna + ASS shot #2
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150712_175657472_HDR_zpswuhso0bc.jpg)
Adding mass to the rear plastic trim to try and cut down on rattles

From the pictures above, particularly the ass shots you can see some of the things I've been working on.
1. I redid the connection to the gas sump. Specifically I got rid of the shutoff valve because gave this whole Lowes brass pluming department vibe and apart from this mod I hopefully won't be digging into my fuel talk again.
2. I dyed my rear bumper trim
3. Installed my rear lights and plate
4. Installed my other muffler
5. Mocked up my new stubby antenna using my self made adapter which I hope to offer one day.

The exhaust install above came with its own set of challenges. I was disappointed to find that 2 of my vibrant v-band clamp bolts had threading that had let go:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150628_162314859_zpsg4ortg7m.jpg)

I didn't want to deal with the hassle (or so I thought) of dealing with a vibrant warranty claim so I tried ordering the proprietary bolts straight from Jegs. Jegs informed me that it was a drop ship only item and it would take a month+ to drop from Vibrant. Frustrated, I canceled the order and sent Vibrant a long email explaining the situation. The wrote back promptly and acknowledged that they had produced a batch of v-bands that had defective fasteners. They found out I'd ordered 5 v-band systems from Summit and within 3 days, this showed up on my doorstep:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150702_172703656_zpsghcydmnn.jpg)

So, yeah. Vibrant for life! If you have any reservations about buying name brand clamps, know that the warranty with Vibrant is worth the extra expense  :cheers:


Some of the things I don't have pictured that have gotten done are:
1. Installed my mik3ymomo hood props from his original GB 1 1/2+ years ago. I believe mattster03 has taken up the torch on these after Mike handed it over to him. I hate I haven't snapped any pics yet. It's definitely one of my favorite mods to date. So nice to not have to find my prop rod every time I want to pop the hood :D
2. Installed my front wipers + shroud
3. Installed my HVAC panel, headunit, and TC
4. Installed my gauge cluster
5. Installed my front signal lights
6. Installed my front lip
7. Installed my upper hatch trim
8. POR15'd my cobra axles and inners
9. Installed my exhaust
10. Installed my new gentex active dimming rearview mirror with built in garage door opener
11. Installed my WB sensor. This actually took me a few precious hours to settle on a good solution. John welded a O2 bung on the new exhaust's Y which made the WB sensor install trivial, but getting it wired was a nightmare as it didn't have an easy path to the cabin. I ended up creating a staggered set of holes through the tranny heatshield and the passenger tranny tunnel sidewall to get the wiring into cabin under the passenger's legs underneath the cabin. I abandoned the mil spec circular collector that I was using at the rear of my battery compartment (behind passenger seat )) so I had to completely redo the wiring for the sensor as well. I grommited the staggered hole and fed the wiring in. The grommit to wire connection is pretty tight so I think between the two it should be pretty water resistant. I would seal it with silicone or something, but the wire from the sensor to the grommit is only an inch or so long so as the exhaust moves the wire will need to push in and out if necessary. I didn't want to create a jam in the operation. I'll post pictures once I get under the car again (soon because I've got a leak at one of the header v-bands).

I think that's it. I hope to have a lot more pictures soon

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on July 13, 2015, 10:26:20 AM
mass produce those antenna adapters

 :wave:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 13, 2015, 10:28:24 AM
mass produce those antenna adapters

 :wave:

That's the plan, pending tests to insure its working  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on July 13, 2015, 10:41:25 AM
I bet that car would look great in a photo somewhere nice... Besides the garage ;)

Who wants to see Lane shoot it somewhere nice for some nice computer wallpaper?
I know I do!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 13, 2015, 10:45:01 AM
I bet that car would look great in a photo somewhere nice... Besides the garage ;)

Who wants to see Lane shoot it somewhere nice for some nice computer wallpaper?
I know I do!

The garage is where all the magic happens though  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: jeffp5 on July 25, 2015, 08:53:11 AM
What was involved with the mirror install? My mirror glass looks like crap
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: RX7what on July 25, 2015, 04:46:58 PM
Where did you get your reverse lights? I have been looking for them for a while. The only place I can find them is in Australia.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on July 25, 2015, 05:10:25 PM
Where did you get your reverse lights? I have been looking for them for a while. The only place I can find them is in Australia.

Close. New Zealand via ebay

What was involved with the mirror install? My mirror glass looks like crap

I've used up my car playtime today so I'll have to post my specifics tomorrow. Here are the basics tho:

http://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/how-install-auto-dim-rearview-mirror-947924/ (http://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/how-install-auto-dim-rearview-mirror-947924/)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: spacevomit on September 10, 2015, 07:30:18 PM
Did you tint those reverse lamps yourself? I have those, and they look a lot better tinted. If so what did you use? I wanna say I bought them from Hong Kong? They have them on RHDJapan too.

PS: I want one of those antennas lol
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: spacevomit on September 10, 2015, 07:30:33 PM
Oops double post.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: babillaracing on September 10, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
Wao sexy ass car
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 11, 2015, 09:51:36 AM
Thanks guys

Did you tint those reverse lamps yourself? I have those, and they look a lot better tinted. If so what did you use? I wanna say I bought them from Hong Kong? They have them on RHDJapan too.

PS: I want one of those antennas lol

The reverse lights were actually pre-tinted / smoked when I bought them 5 years ago. They were purchased as part of a set that included the reverse lights, rear side reflectors, front side reflectors (99+ JDM type that mount on the fenders (I didn't end up using them)), and the front turn signals. They actually were purchased off of ebay on an auction labeled "CRYSTAL SMOKED LIGHTS COMBO 4 MAZDA RX7 FD3S 92-01" here:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220672319122 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220672319122)
The seller = who8u
email = vick@xracing.co.nz
As you can probably see, they came from New Zealand. I had to wait about 3 weeks for them to get here.
They were $226 shipped in 2010.
They actually sent me two sets on accident. I wrote them when it happened. They said they would send me a shipping label. Then time went by, I followed up several times, and never heard back. So I sold them about 6 months later.
Since then I haven't been able to find them again. I've had several people ask me about them over the years. You may try emailing the seller and see if they can still get them if you're interested.

Hope that helps
Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 11, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Mega Update

So it’s been 2 months since my last update, and some stuff has actually happened during that time believe it or not.

Frustratingly, 1 month of that time was spent solely on my doors. It started with prepping for my audio system:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150723_123010754_zpslhpqgebn.jpg)

Simple enough eh? Not really. When I started to put together my door plastics and actually install the door skin I had quite a few clearance issues. One of the main ones was the driver’s side unlock solenoid. I had to flip it and tinker around with it for a few days before I got it resolved. I also fat matted too much and had to cut some back. My extra and stock wiring got in the way. My door plastics needed some repairs on the skin side. I rebuilt my passenger side window regulator (it didn’t improve its speed). I rebuilt my window and mirror switched (didn’t improve the passenger window speed but my mirror controls are 100% now). I replaced a window guide on my passenger door due to a find by John during paint. And I spent time replacing all of the door moldings, of which I found a major issue fitting my drip guards that required some nerve racking surgery and repaint. So, on with the pics:

Broken passenger window guide I replaced:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150719_175501826_zpszneeri5l.jpg)

Passenger window regulator I rebuilt:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150722_194445440_zpsiyrkrgnz.jpg)

The Drip Guard problem (Passenger Side)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150807_182113413_zpsbf0volev.jpg)

The image above is hard to see what’s going on, but here’s the short version. Basically I had so much sealing urethane / tar / or whatever it is that’s meant to seal the door arch sheet metal to the roof that it was proving impossible to install my brand new drip guards properly. Luckily, I was the one that removed the old ones so I knew they really clamp onto that metal edge going around the window. I wasn’t getting that type of clip down after paint with my new mouldings. I could get it started but as soon as I hit this junk it would throw it off track. So I started the process of digging out the excess:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150807_182045149_zpsw0qgdtql.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150808_124652100_zpscw6fp1so.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150808_124741471_zpsqghqog0y.jpg)

Pretty scary stuff eh? Digging around and punching through John’s most excellent paint? My wife about divorced me when she walked out and saw what I was doing lol!
Ok, so here’s why I felt comfortable enough to do this. All of this area fits behind the molding when properly installed. So after I dug out the excess, I cleaned it, scuffed it up, epoxy primed it, and topcoated it.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150808_132212379_HDR_zpsua40shs7.jpg)

The drop guards went in properly after all that. Whew!

Next I got back to interior installation. My rear storage bin was in sad shape bracket-wise. After being shipped cross-country…. Poorly… it lost all 4 of its bottom mounting tabs. I remade these in L shaped aluminum and riveted them to what was left of the tab supports.
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150815_145442225_zpspbrrovw1.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150815_145422575_zps3yzhnenr.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150815_145612723_HDR_zpsvwbiqym2.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150815_145456624_HDR_zpscszfyail.jpg)

It actually worked out very well! It was a good feeling to bolt the bin in with 100% of its mounting points secured. Oh yeah, I threw on some fat mat while I was at it :)

Now, I’d like to get to the meat and potatoes of this update. The audio system install  :yay:
Some of you may know from my engineering thread that I’ve been holding off on testing the antenna adapter I’m developing until my audio install is finished, which will allow me to test said adapter. I’m happy to say that I’ve got all of the major components installed. Here’s the breakdown on the setup:

Headunit = Pioneer DEH-80PRS
Amplifier = JBL GTO-5EZ
Mid Range = Zapco ZSL-165 6.5” Component Woofers
High Range = Zapco ZSL-165 1.5” Component Tweeters
Low Range = Two 8” Image Dynamic IDQ Subwoofers
Sound Control = Lizard Skin SC sprayed interior + Fat Mat prepped doors and most of the interior panels
Wiring = 90A fused 4AWG Power, Bespoke RCAs, 12AWG speaker wiring
Extras = PVC 6.5” Speakers adapters for the mid woofers from www.car-speaker-adapters.com (http://www.car-speaker-adapters.com)

Nothing really fancy. Just a nice mid range system. I’ve never gotten hung up on dollar amounts or anything crazy with car audio. To me a car is the worst place for high fidelity audio, acoustically, so I can’t ever bring myself to spend more than ~$500 on a ‘system’. Keeping the price down was helped when I got the audiophile celebrated DEH-80PRS on a crazy sale about a year ago and I also got the pair of subs for ~$100 shipped. The components weren’t bad either. Speaking of the components, I had a hard time finding options that would definitely fit the slim working space that the RX7 door contains. The Zapcos ended up being the best slim option I could find for the money.

The speaker wiring was done as follows:

Subs = Two Dual 2ohm coils wired as a 2ohm parallel load to the amp. The amp has a subwoofer channel output of 500Watts RMS to a 2ohm load, so that’s the way I went. More than enough to satisfy the two meager 8” IDQ parallel subs.

Mids = 4ohms per channel. The GTO-5EZ sub is a 5 channel amp and my plan was to originally to run the mids and tweeters off of their own channel, but I decided to bridge 2 of the GTO-5EZ’s channels to deliver 150 Watts RMS  to each woofer’s 4ohm load.

Tweeter – So I used up all my amp outputs above? WTF!? Haha! I solved this ahead of time by reading up on the DEH-80PRS and finding that in active mode the onboard amp is still powered and the high channel on-board amplified signal can easily handle the Zapco tweeters, so I wired them straight off the headunit.

So the speaker wiring revealed a little secret. This is my first 3 way active system. For those of you who aren’t into car audio…. It’s kind of a big deal ;) Haha! Nah, it just lets me run 3 separate stereo channels with digitally controlled crossovers on each channel. With separate audio channels I can individually configure things like time alignment which is why I didn’t really worry about mounting my tweeters in my A pillars (spoiler). Since the 3 channels allow me to control the respective crossover frequencies digitally I got to drop the clunky Zapco component crossovers and open up the amp for full range on all the channels.

So all that just means I get to RCA my mid and sub channel to the amplifier and directly power the tweeters from the headunit. After it’s wired properly, I get to fine tune the TA, EQ, and crossovers with auto and manual adjustments. 

So enough tech talk. Let’s get some pictures going haha!

Hey! For the first time in 6 years my RX7’s got a headunit!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW3119_20_21_22_23_24_25HDR_zpshf2ioncz.jpg)

Some cool little tweeter pods I built into the A pillars
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW3127_28_29_30_31_32_33HDR_zpstti5guvr.jpg)

I wonder what could the divider be hiding?
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW3180-2_1_2_3_4_5_6HDR_zpsabadkf42.jpg)

Oh! How fancy!
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW3173-2_4-2_5-2_6-2_7-2_8-2_9-2HDR_zpsa3j1q25x.jpg)

I keep all the junk in the trunk er hatch
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW3100_1_2_3_4_5_6HDR_zpszck2q2fu.jpg)

So those are the fancy pics. Here are some of the behind-the-scenes pics and explanations

Here’s the start of the subwoofer enclosure:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150829_133550607_zpsoacbffyy.jpg)

It’s based off of the finely designed DamonB subwoofer plans posted on the club:
http://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/damonb-subwoofer-enclosure-dimensions-488562/ (http://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/damonb-subwoofer-enclosure-dimensions-488562/)

I’ve also got to give a shootout to my buddy Tim Garrity who drove me the ½” MDF I needed to make the enclosure from Louisiana to Mississippi. For some reason I couldn’t find any ½” MDF within 2 hours of me. I literally turned all the lumbar stores in the area upside down looking. Noone had it. Only ¾”. This was only a big deal because the box volume is already small and I was trying to put in 2 8” subs. The IDQ 8” subs don’t require much but I was fighting for every square inch I could get. Hence the requirement for ½” MDF.

I’ve built plenty of sub boxes in the past, but I’m about 10 years out of practice and this one was a doosey to get back to speed on:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150831_201111360_zpsneaohevs.jpg)

Here it is carpeted with the subs and amp mounted:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150907_152132699_HDR_zpsms71s3aj.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150907_152111840_HDR_zpsiurqa9ym.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150907_152139507_HDR_zpsiddf8mbn.jpg)

Carpeting the enclosure was a bitch! I found out after starting the adhesive that all my box cutters / razers were dull as crap, so it was a small nightmare getting it to look as good as it does (believe me, it’s not perfect). Also, I don’t know if you can tell, but DamonB designed a false front on this box that juts out from the main body making a complex triangle to carpet around. Ugh. I got through it somehow.

Here’s a shot of how I wired the sub/amp in:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150907_152011785_HDR_zps3pgfsyao.jpg)

Switching gears, here’s a picture of the A-Pillar Tweeter pods I built:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150817_183607632_zps3qnctbp2.jpg)

They’re actually made from 1 ½” PVC end caps. I got the idea from the how-to listed on diymobileaudio:
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/how-articles-provided-our-members/53732-cheap-adjustable-easily-replaceable-tweeter-pods.html (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/how-articles-provided-our-members/53732-cheap-adjustable-easily-replaceable-tweeter-pods.html)

Finally, here are two pics from the woofer install:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150720_190048151_HDR_zpsnywfai4x.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150720_190120758_zpsjgodgprk.jpg)

Easy peasy plug and play :D

I’ve only gotten to listen to the system for about 10 minutes total and it’s completely un-tuned, but it already sounds pretty amazing and I think it has a ton of potential. Can’t wait to get it dialed in.

Oh yeah. I also took advantage of a rainy day to check for leaks that may have popped up due to me replacing all the exterior mouldings / weatherstrips
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150815_154415836_HDR_zpsy1ofixxq.jpg)

Left the car out for a couple of hours in what turned out to be a pretty severe rainstorm and didn’t find any :D
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20150815_174959327_HDR_zpsmmpmp4u0.jpg)

:cheers:
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: spacevomit on September 11, 2015, 05:10:23 PM
Waxer :p
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on September 11, 2015, 06:53:26 PM
I modified the pegs on the door speaker PVC frame.  Removed the originals which were about 1 inch in height and bought some half inch nylon spacers and shorter self taping screws.  The speakers still clear window operation but anything lower will definitely catch when the window is down.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on September 11, 2015, 08:51:54 PM
Everything looks great but you could have gotten a lot more out of a small JL sub like:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_13610TW3/JL-Audio-10TW3-D4.html?tp=111&awkw=75621701425&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=47439285625&awdv=c (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_13610TW3/JL-Audio-10TW3-D4.html?tp=111&awkw=75621701425&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=47439285625&awdv=c)

This thing is truly amazing for such a compact design and required box volume.  I plan on making a nice custom fiberglass box to sit in the spare tire well and keep my truck supper clean. 

I assume you are running the tweets through the crossovers if you are running them off the head unit.  How will you adjust gain levels on them?   
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 11, 2015, 09:55:42 PM
Everything looks great but you could have gotten a lot more out of a small JL sub

Perhaps... I guess it depends on your definition of more and what your goals are (which I didn't specify). The JL sub is more money haha! That's for sure ;) Read my rundown on budget above and you'll see I got the pair of subs used for $100. I've never been impressed with the SQ of shallow subs and I wasn't hurting for depth in my enclosure. That's not to say the JL isn't a great sub. It's brand new so not many people have heard it including me. ID subs are fairly well known for their SQ and that's all I was really after. Just some reasonable low fill. I'm not a crazy bass head :D

I of assume you are running the tweets through the crossovers if you are running them off the head unit.  How will you adjust gain levels on them?   

You may want to re-read over my description of the active setup or read up on active setups elsewhere. No assumptions needed :D There are no physical crossovers in my setup. All frequency passes and cuts are handled inside the head unit via ultra fine digital crossover control. Gain is also handled in the headunit. For the speakers tied to the amp, yes, you'll have a constant gain which amplifies the gain of the head unit that the head unit amp won't have but when the head unit amp is driving just tweeters it's got plenty of adjustment to match the amplified outputs.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on September 11, 2015, 10:15:42 PM
Yes, i am not up to speed on the current active setups.. I was not aware that the headunit could handle the corssovers.  I am oldschool, using a PPI Pro650 (one of the most badass amps I have every heard) to run my active setup. 

As for the TW3, it has excellent sound quality.  It is way better than the W6 I use to have in the car.  Amplification does make a big impact on sound quality, I had a set of $100 polk components sounds amazing with that PPI amp. 

I like your setup, it is the same as I had with my JL W6 many years ago.  The extra $200 is worth it IMO just for a little more compact setup.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on September 11, 2015, 11:05:44 PM
Yes, i am not up to speed on the current active setups.. I was not aware that the headunit could handle the corssovers. 

Yeah man! Active crossovers are the wave of the future. If you have 10 minutes of your life to waste and can tolerate the way this dude says 'filters' the walkthrough of the DEH-80PRS advanced features is a fun watch:

DEH-80PRS Advanced Features (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nY4z0FZPD8#)

The Network settings is where the beauty of the HU starts to shine  :cheers:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on April 08, 2016, 12:27:30 PM
do you still own this car?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 08, 2016, 12:45:11 PM
do you still own this car?

Yessir. The move to my new house has taken a lot of focus away from the car but it's all wrapped up now and I've been enjoying the good life:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/_GJW4720_1_2_3_4_5_6HDR_zpsmpfxr1eb.jpg)

I have a dyno tune scheduled for April 22nd. Stay tuned for videos and numbers  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on April 08, 2016, 01:31:42 PM
That's a sick picture.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on April 08, 2016, 02:04:13 PM
Sexy sexy.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on April 11, 2016, 05:36:09 AM
Looking great Lane!!


Where are you taking it for the tune, if I may ask?

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 11, 2016, 05:54:27 PM
Looking great Lane!!


Where are you taking it for the tune, if I may ask?



Carma Performance in Nashville, TN
http://www.carma-performance.com/ (http://www.carma-performance.com/)

It's actually a shop at the end of a pretty discouraging list of dynos I contacted about dyno'ing my car over a period of 2 months. I almost made a post here ranting about my bad luck, but I decided to keep it quiet until it was all worked out. I just couldn't find a reputable shop within 6hrs of me to do the work for anything!

1. The shop you (XLR8) were using packed up and moved to Houston TX I believe. Sorry I can't remember their names as I x'd them off my list after hearing they'd moved.
2. Speed South in Pelham, AL promised they would fit me in, in 2 weeks (back in February) but didn't... Then they promised to get me in before the end of March, but again failed to get me a firm appointment so I told them I'd look elsewhere.
3. Hux Racing in Goodwater, AL. Got into some technical conversations with the owner Eric Hux, but quickly realized that he doesn't tune with HP Tuners often and maybe doesn't even tune GM PCMs that much. Discussions about what the GM PCM does to account for when the MAF is disabled / disconnected (basically how to setup a SD tune) made me worry about choosing them to tune my car. I guess the feeling was mutual because they stopped returning my messages.
4. Futral Motorsports in Walker, LA. Never returned my calls
5. Carma Performance in Nashville TN. The first to give me an actual appointment (April 22nd). They sound technically proficient via our messages and can carry technical discussions regarding the tuning I've done to date. They've been a little slow to respond some weeks, but I get that. It's a busy business. We'll see. If they keep their appointment (I'm taking a day off to make it as they are 5.5hrs away) and can deliver a daily driveable tune I'll be happy.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: VladtheSmiter on April 13, 2016, 11:36:57 AM
I've had my car tuned by both Futral Motorsports and Engine Power Systems in the Baton Rouge area which are both about equal distance with Nashville. Futral does have kinda shitty customer service unless you spend big bucks with them but Engine Power Systems tuned up my new motor and did a fantastic job and are easy to reach after say 10am. Geoff (the owner of EPS) is a guru on ls custom cam design and tuning. Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on April 18, 2016, 05:39:30 PM
I've had my car tuned by both Futral Motorsports and Engine Power Systems in the Baton Rouge area which are both about equal distance with Nashville. Futral does have kinda shitty customer service unless you spend big bucks with them but Engine Power Systems tuned up my new motor and did a fantastic job and are easy to reach after say 10am. Geoff (the owner of EPS) is a guru on ls custom cam design and tuning. Just throwing that out there.

Thank you for the alternative. I was pretty surprised that Futral wouldn't even bother to pick up the phone or email me back considering they have a pretty good rep. That being said, I don't have time for people that don't have time to at least start a conversation with me.
I'll keep EPS in mind. I'm still planning on keeping my appointment with Carma but if they fall through I'll consider your alternative as well as another option that was PM'd to me last week.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: XLR8 on April 19, 2016, 02:12:17 AM
Looking great Lane!!


Where are you taking it for the tune, if I may ask?



Carma Performance in Nashville, TN
http://www.carma-performance.com/ (http://www.carma-performance.com/)

It's actually a shop at the end of a pretty discouraging list of dynos I contacted about dyno'ing my car over a period of 2 months. I almost made a post here ranting about my bad luck, but I decided to keep it quiet until it was all worked out. I just couldn't find a reputable shop within 6hrs of me to do the work for anything!

1. The shop you (XLR8) were using packed up and moved to Houston TX I believe. Sorry I can't remember their names as I x'd them off my list after hearing they'd moved.
2. Speed South in Pelham, AL promised they would fit me in, in 2 weeks (back in February) but didn't... Then they promised to get me in before the end of March, but again failed to get me a firm appointment so I told them I'd look elsewhere.
3. Hux Racing in Goodwater, AL. Got into some technical conversations with the owner Eric Hux, but quickly realized that he doesn't tune with HP Tuners often and maybe doesn't even tune GM PCMs that much. Discussions about what the GM PCM does to account for when the MAF is disabled / disconnected (basically how to setup a SD tune) made me worry about choosing them to tune my car. I guess the feeling was mutual because they stopped returning my messages.
4. Futral Motorsports in Walker, LA. Never returned my calls
5. Carma Performance in Nashville TN. The first to give me an actual appointment (April 22nd). They sound technically proficient via our messages and can carry technical discussions regarding the tuning I've done to date. They've been a little slow to respond some weeks, but I get that. It's a busy business. We'll see. If they keep their appointment (I'm taking a day off to make it as they are 5.5hrs away) and can deliver a daily driveable tune I'll be happy.

Lane



Yep, they sure did.  I was sad to hear that considering their reviews, and the fact that they were less than 45 min from my house.  I will be taking my car to Schexnayder Racing.  Excellent reviews and responses so far.  Their correspondence was immediate and thorough.  These guys build wild shit and their a Holley vendor.  As for tuning shops, it can be super frustrating.  Like you, I have no time for people who won't even start a conversation.  It doesn't inspire confidence for when they actually have my hard work and money wrung out on the dyno, or that the proper time will be taken to ensure proper street tuning/load transitions.
 
www.schexnayderracing.com (http://www.schexnayderracing.com)
 
 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 02, 2016, 10:01:12 PM
Dyno Video!

93 Mazda RX7 with Swapped LS1 - Carma Performance Dyno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQ48qjDKmE#)

RX7 in the hands of Erin Carpenter of Carma Performance in Nashville, TN

Back tomorrow with more info. Gotta catch up on GoT

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Donthitme on May 02, 2016, 10:07:02 PM
Damn that exhaust sound!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on May 03, 2016, 08:31:13 AM
Oooohh....sounds great! Congrats and I can't wait to see more.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 09:54:40 AM
Thanks Fellas. The exhaust config during the dyno used the inline vibrant resonator and the oval muffler. I feel like it's a pretty damn good sounding combo. Doesn't drone and the volume melts away during cruise speeds.... but when you touch the accelerator it barks and when you go to WOT you get what's in the vids :D

Oh yeah, that's my Bosch 044 in the background when the car revs down. I found out it gets even louder when the car's running hard.

Carma Performance in Nashville, TN turned out to be a one man operation run by Erin Carpenter. His shop had all kinds of cool cars waiting in line and he was extremely knowledgeable and proved it multiple times during the visit. After talking with me for 30 minutes about the car's build info we loaded it on the rollers. He got started and my car started backfiring like it likes to do. He kept shaking his head and saying "there's no way." He eventually killed the car and we talked some more. He said he was 99% sure the car was misfiring but it wasn't being reported to the PCM. After I let him know the injectors probably weren't the place to look since I've had them cleaned and flow tested we discussed the coils. This was an area I felt had more potential for problems since the coils are low mileage but used and I didn't have a full history on them. Turns out we didn't even get to the coils. With the car on and dyno locked at 30MPH I held the accelerator where the "misfiring" was most active. This caused the engine to really shake around as if 2 cylinders were gone. From there Erin simply unplugged each coil until he came to one coil that hardly made a difference when unplugged. Eureka! However, the problem turned out to be the plug wire.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160422_135740674_zpsqv0cgj5o.jpg)

Even with the insulating boot, the wire was fried.  Erin popped on a spare plug and we went back to the dyno with a noticeable improvement. Still, after several more minutes on the dyno he yelled out we probably have another wire in bad shape. Sure enough, he found another one simply by looking at which wire was next closest to a primary.

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160422_142119944_zpsguh8u3m9.jpg)

Threw on another spare wire and finished the MAP and MAF tuning. Took about 2 hours Goodbye backfires :D

Just a FYI - both fried plugs were located on the passenger side on cylinders 4 and 6. Anyone with a functional heater and AC knows how cramped that side gets. For me it was even worse because I had the bright idea to run my battery lead through the header primaries with 3 layers of fiberglass insulation. The battery cable crowded the wire on cylinder 6 and the dipstick crowded the wire on cylinder 4. Both areas were packed enough that the plug wire insulators made lite contact with the primaries. Even with the insulation and the ceramic coated primaries, the contact was the breaking point. Any contact is going to result in a bad time:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160430_171529126_zpsruqqygzo.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160430_171536834_zpswfksfgb3.jpg)
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160430_171543709_zps9wvvh3so.jpg)

As you can see, the battery lead didn't fare any better; even with 3 layers of fiberglass sleeve made to withstand 1000 degrees. After finding the damage to the spark plug wires Erin told me it was something to look at ASAP. I wasn't really concerned about it shorting out so I made the trip home simply because fiberglass is a very good insulator and I knew it wasn't going to burn up even with direct contact with the primaries. That plus the fact that my battery lead is fused (yes, I'm one of the guys that says you should still fuse your battery lead despite what other people say) made me comfortable that the car wouldn't short and burn down. Still, I knew it was something that needed attention and this is what I found when I got home. Car is on jackstands now awaiting 15ft of 0/1 AWG for a new run. This time I'll be going the long way around and still doing fiberglass insulation. Even shielded, the new route wont get within 5 inches of the headers.

Finally we got to spark tuning and WOT tuning. Erin dialed both tables in after about 8 partial pulls and 2 full pulls but when we got ready to do the last full pulls and record the pull data we were disappointed to have the Dyno start slipping. Erin fessed up and said the much higher HP car he was dyno'ing last night had similar issues on the dyno and he's afraid his dyno is officially in need of repair. The problems were causing it to slip around ~340HP so that's about all the graph would show before it would dive when it started to slip. He told me in his experience the log data supports just over 400HP to the wheels. Later he confirmed when he extrapolated the duty cycle of the injectors at ~6500RPM

((49 lb/hr * 0.63 duty cycle) / 0.5 BSFC)* 8 cylinders = 494 Flywheel HP * 0.85 drivetrain loss = 420WHP

It's about what I was hoping for although I was a little disappointed I couldn't get a sheet to brag on  :yay:

Finished up by taking a wild test drive which was hilariously fun while Erin made some final corrections. He then took the wheel and showed off his knowledge of downtown Nashville  :drive:

Drive home was nice. No backfires, silky smooth acceleration, and cooold AC. I did kill the engine a couple of times when clutching in to coast to a stop with AC on. I think Erin didn't tune for idle when the AC compressor is on. I let him know and we're going to potentially setup a remote touchup. I did get a little homework though. On the test drive Erin mentioned that he still felt and heard a potential misfire. I couldn't really detect it on the test drive, but think I noticed it on the drive home. I could feel what felt like mini fuel cuts when cruising at very low load and rpm. It just enough to let you know it happened then the power comes right back all within a fraction of a second. The result is a not so smooth cruse as it feels like the car is lightly surging rather than being continuous. So I think I have one more bad wire. I ordered new wires and plugs and hope to finish changing them when my replacement battery lead shows up.

The whole burnt spark plug wire situation make me feel pretty stupid because they burnt with me thinking the insulating boots made them indestructible. I simply got sloppy and let the boots sit on the primaries and those were the ones that burnt. Thing is, I never saw the damage even though I've had the wires off since they originally went on. When I removed them a while back (to check the spark plugs for potential fouls), I didn't bother to remove the insulating boots to check for damage. I just assumed since the boot's weren't burnt the plug wires weren't either...
On the next set I've got to make sure nothing touches the headers. I've got to keep them centered between without contact and they should survive.
Finding the source of the misfires was worth the trip. Such a small thing caused me so much grief and has had me chasing my tail for years now.

All in all it was a wonderful experience. The car made the 10hr trip without any hickups. Granted, the drive home was nicer than the drive up, but it was still a lot of fun and speaks to the car's reliability on a longish trip

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on May 03, 2016, 01:16:01 PM
Are you maf or SD?

Sucks you're 10 hours round trip and didn't get your dyno sheet :(

Congrats on the journey though! It's a great feeling in something you built yourself.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 01:19:01 PM
Are you maf or SD?

Yes ;)

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on May 03, 2016, 01:26:34 PM
Haha I'd bet the light load missing you feel is fuel related not spark.

The samberg intake duct doesn't play well with mafs.

I'm a SD convert. A little trickier to get every cell dialed in, but really taking my blended cal to a SD open loop cal only took me a couple hours of road tuning. I would not go back. Even a mild setup will feel smoother and more responsive - especially on your early ecu.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on May 03, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
ya  you  would  think  if the  pitch of the pump is changing......
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 02:48:38 PM
Haha I'd bet the light load missing you feel is fuel related not spark.

The samberg intake duct doesn't play well with mafs.

I'm a SD convert. A little trickier to get every cell dialed in, but really taking my blended cal to a SD open loop cal only took me a couple hours of road tuning. I would not go back. Even a mild setup will feel smoother and more responsive - especially on your early ecu.

I won't say you're not right. I've already removed all of my plugs and the only two with noticeable damage were the two pictured above, so at this point I'm not expecting miracles from new plugs and wires.
From my own experience I'm inclined to think you're right simply because I was always able to get my car to cruise smoother running solely off the VE table and have always been a little wary of the LS7 MAF tube from Samberg. Erin spent 2 hours tuning the VE table and the MAF table (not to mention my car was setup as a SD tune before I took it to him so my VE table was already good enough to run pretty well for 2 years even with the fried spark plug wires) and the should both be good enough to run independently on, so if I wanted to go full SD it would only be a matter of removing the MAF and coding the PCM to go off the VE table only then dial in any cells in the low load area of the table with less than smooth transitions.

Still... The car's running better than it ever has and my AFRs are tighter than they've ever been so I'm hesitant to make any changes to the tune.

Did you ever try a honeycomb air straightener in your MAF tune Daniel? I've got one somewhere. I took mine out when I was trying to tune my MAF years ago and couldn't make progress. In hindsight I've been fighting misfires from the spark plug wires all along. Makes me wonder if it would be worth trying again.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
ya  you  would  think  if the  pitch of the pump is changing......

It's actually wasn't a "surprise" but more of a reminder. I had Damon send me his spare Bosch 044 back in 2012 when I was diagnosing my fuel issues and was worried about the noise. His did the same thing. Erin wasn't worried. He said they're especially loud when they're external but they're bulletproof.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on May 03, 2016, 03:02:19 PM
Sorry  ,   ,, (more  words  = better communication), if  the  pitch of the  pump  is  changing  would that  not  mean  the  electricity  going to   the pump  is  fluctuating?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: UH-60Pilot on May 03, 2016, 03:09:55 PM
My Bosch 044 gets noisy after long trips on hot days.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 04:34:33 PM
Sorry  ,   ,, (more  words  = better communication), if  the  pitch of the  pump  is  changing  would that  not  mean  the  electricity  going to   the pump  is  fluctuating?

I expect a change in voltage would make a change in the pitch of the fuel pump. But it's not what's happening in my case. I think most bosch 044s just get noisy because of heat. And in-tank 044s are less noisy than external 044s simply because they've got a decent secondary liquid heatsink. My fuel pump also makes funny noises when it's pressurizing / pushing air out of the lines because its working against a changing pressure / load.

The first reason I know it's not a problem with my car is because every electrical load in a car is in parallel with the battery. The only way voltage changes across parallel loads sharing the same battery is if the voltage changes across ALL loads. My voltmeter stays locked on 13.8-14V no matter what the car's doing. Now that doesn't cover series resistance to each of the loads attached to the battery (wiring, fuses, relays), but those are usually very constant. I.E., the voltage drop across a relay, wiring, and fuse may be a couple hundred milivolts but it's not going to be full volts and it's not going to fluctuate unless something is really REALLY wrong. So you'll see ~13.3-13.6v delivered to loads around the car but it doesn't really change past that.

The second reason I know it's not a problem with my car is because I'm measured every electrical metric at the fuel pump years ago in a big rabbit trail I took called Fuel Pressure Problems making my head hurt. *Lots of data/pics inside* (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=13521.0). Check it out if you've got time on your hand. It's a story of a frustrated man tracking down a fuel delivery problem. During the process I datalogged voltage across and current through the fuel pump under all conditions (including noisy times). No appreciable variations. Spoiler, the cause of the issues was A. Badly placed fuel pressure sensor. And B. This little shit:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/713_zps6dd7d96c.jpg)

Part B wasn't discovered until a year later in another quest called  Wideband Accuracy and Tuning Sanity Check (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=15524.0)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 04:41:51 PM
As yall can see with the two threads referenced in my post above. I've been through the ringer getting this car sorted and all the while I was chasing my tail due to the undiagnosed misfires caused by those damned spark plug wires. Yes, the trip to Nashville would have been worth it simply to find the problem with the wires, not even counting the most excellent tune. I was very happy with I left  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on May 03, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
Haha I'd bet the light load missing you feel is fuel related not spark.

The samberg intake duct doesn't play well with mafs.

I'm a SD convert. A little trickier to get every cell dialed in, but really taking my blended cal to a SD open loop cal only took me a couple hours of road tuning. I would not go back. Even a mild setup will feel smoother and more responsive - especially on your early ecu.

QFT
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on May 03, 2016, 07:03:41 PM
I was stubborn about running the MAF. Belieb.. You'll be happier. Never tried a honeycomb. Didn't want to restrict the flow. Even if the MAF gets a good signal driveability will be better with SD. Your afr may fluctuate more but who cares. Just watch for knock if it's going to the lean side in 6th.

My 044 has sounded like it was eating rocks before. It's usually not loud enough to hear over the car. I was pretty mad thinking it was broken/breaking and then all of a sudden it cleared it's throat and has been quiet ever since.

When I take mine apart to do an 8.8 I'm going to redo my fuel system with one of the new walbro turbine pumps and 3/8" lines so I have some headroom and can run e85 if I want. Should be quieter as well.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Jordan Innovations on May 03, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
Had the same thing happen with my MSD boots on JTR 1 7/8" headers with Taylor boots.  Drove me nuts.  Definitely ditch that huge ground wire running between header primaries lol, just run it under the frame?

Daniel is right that it's almost certainly fueling related - you'd barely notice a downed plug wire at idle or light throttle, and you'll feel it get linearly worse as you add load - it's probably not another wire.
MAF honeycomb can definitely help with the Samberg elbow, but I also am a VE/SD believer.  Can't argue with it running great, and happy for you that you can finally enjoy it Lane!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 08:41:55 PM
Definitely ditch that huge ground wire running between header primaries lol, just run it under the frame?

Not a ground. It was battery power to the starter. I've got a new path planned that starts around the ABS pump then works its way over to the back of the intake, then it runs along the coils under the coil cover to the samberg surge tank where it's got lots of places to discretely drop down between the head / heater inlet/outlet, then back to the starter. May not be pretty / hidden but it will work.

I've always avoided running anything power related under the car on a low car. Hell, I don't even like running fuel lines under a lowered car, but that was unavoidable :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 03, 2016, 08:44:22 PM
I was stubborn about running the MAF. Belieb.. You'll be happier. Never tried a honeycomb. Didn't want to restrict the flow. Even if the MAF gets a good signal driveability will be better with SD. Your afr may fluctuate more but who cares. Just watch for knock if it's going to the lean side in 6th.

Good info. Thanks Daniel.

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: babillaracing on May 03, 2016, 10:12:36 PM
Car sound really mean man
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Chigliakus on May 03, 2016, 10:16:39 PM
Speedfab once said "fast cars don't have MAFs"...

Love the dyno vid, the car sounds great, but... :o after reading your dyno saga I just went out to the garage to check my plug wires--I have the exact same MSD plug wires you burned up.  I don't have any insulation on them and they look fine, but now I'm nervous about my battery cable and clutch line.  The battery cable runs through the firewall below the ABS stuff, then between the headers and the firewall on its way to the starter.  It's wrapped in DEI cool tape and a DEI aluminized fiberglass cool sleeve.  I wonder if I can secure it to the firewall somewhere, to ensure it doesn't get anywhere near the rear header tube where it passes it?  It only has maybe 2" between the rear tube and the insulation at the moment, and I fear it may move forward and touch the header under hard braking.

I'm even more nervous about my clutch hydraulic line now, it runs between two of the drivers side header tubes.  It's wrapped in fiberglass insulation and routed inside an aluminum tube where it goes between the headers.  I guess I need to drain the clutch hydraulics so I can pull, unwrap, and inspect the line...

If I recall correctly you're running 1 7/8" headers, whereas I'm running the smaller 1 3/4" (also ceramic coated) so maybe that's part of the difference.  Do you think maybe your headers were getting hotter than they should have been due to the lack of a good tune on the engine?  How many miles do you have on those MSD plug wires?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 04, 2016, 08:49:27 AM
I... hate... MAFs....

I've tuned a half dozen SD cars...    it's time consuming but dead easy to get consistent results.    If a super-dufus tuner like me can do it someone competent should have no trouble.   The results have been excellent in my experience though.

Just throwing in my .02.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on May 04, 2016, 08:56:55 AM
My tuner didn't recommend SD on the e38 computer. He said the older generations, yes. Any thoughts on why? Was he just being lazy?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 04, 2016, 08:57:37 AM
I think some of the newer ECUs required a "virtual VE table".   That required a custom HP Tuners OS and a lot of fiddling.   In that case, yeah, probably not great.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 04, 2016, 08:59:56 AM
Speedfab once said "fast cars don't have MAFs"...

Cute quote, but my car is not really built to be a race car. I can definitely see the appeal of SD tune to some people. I also see a lot of value in a blended configuration that was engineered and adopted for a manufactured release. I'll just say that Mississippi's daily climate changes usually makes me think twice about SD only. I don't think you can fully appreciate how the barometric pressure and humidity bounces around down here until you live here. I'm not saying SD can't be done in MS. Sure it can. But it's harder and less ideal than places that are more even keel (like sunny CA) :)

I doubt many people saw it but I officially announced my intention to sell my car back in December in my  status quo thread (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=22102.msg301591#msg301591). I've been preparing to sell my car ever since. Seems like a half hearted commitment as it's been 5 months since that announcement but I can assure you it's happening (most likely within the week now that the dyno is complete). Unlike most, I've taken my time to get the car completely sorted out before the sale. I've also worked long and hard writing up the for sale ad. Finally, I've taken my time doing my best to capture the car with my amateur control of a nice camera.

I only bring this back up because while SD sounds fun, it's not a requirement to have the car run right. Short of the barely detectable surges I may be feeling during cruising the car runs better than it ever has. If the new owner lives in a easier region for SD or just prefers it, that's his/her prerogative.

The battery cable runs through the firewall below the ABS stuff, then between the headers and the firewall on its way to the starter.  It's wrapped in DEI cool tape and a DEI aluminized fiberglass cool sleeve.  I wonder if I can secure it to the firewall somewhere, to ensure it doesn't get anywhere near the rear header tube where it passes it?  It only has maybe 2" between the rear tube and the insulation at the moment, and I fear it may move forward and touch the header under hard braking.

It sounds like the way you're routed your battery lead is close to what I'm proposing as a solution for my current path. What bit me was routing the lead between header primaries 6 and 8. It was too tight and there was definitely contact with the insulation and the primary metal. That's the problem. If you can avoid direct contact and give yourself an inch or more away from the primaries you should be good with adequate insulating as the ambient temperature and airflow in the engine bay will help keep you in good shape.

I'm even more nervous about my clutch hydraulic line now, it runs between two of the drivers side header tubes.  It's wrapped in fiberglass insulation and routed inside an aluminum tube where it goes between the headers.  I guess I need to drain the clutch hydraulics so I can pull, unwrap, and inspect the line...

Don't know what to tell you on this one. My clutch line is also heat shielded in DEI fire sleeve but it makes its patch down from the MC then to the framerail, back, and straight shots over the header around and over the collector area to the quick disconnect. I don't go through any primary tubes. It just goes over the merge at the collector and there is 1-2" of clearance. If you've got that option, I'd definitely recommend it over routing through the primaries, even if you've crafted a heatsink tube. Note, if you stick with the aluminum tube I would change the material. Heat goes right through aluminum because it's a great thermal conductor. Kinda the opposite of what you what you're shooting for.


If I recall correctly you're running 1 7/8" headers, whereas I'm running the smaller 1 3/4" (also ceramic coated) so maybe that's part of the difference.

Yes, I'm running 1 7/8" version of JTR headers and they're also ceramic coated.

Do you think maybe your headers were getting hotter than they should have been due to the lack of a good tune on the engine?

No. My tune was always on the rich side. Pig rich if you count the misfires ;)
A rich tune runs cooler than a lean tune or even a stoichiometric perfect tune. My problem was physical contact with hot parts.

How many miles do you have on those MSD plug wires?
~ 3000 miles

Lane




Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Chigliakus on May 04, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
Lane, I only meant it to be a cute quote and certainly didn't mean to give offense.  My car is slow compared to yours or just about anyone else on this forum.  :) Totally stock LS1, not a fancy 383 stroker, and I'm sure the stock MAF is the single biggest breathing restriction on the engine at the moment--it's the old style that has the honeycomb integrated and can't be more than 80mm ID.  We have pretty wild temperature and humidity swings here in Texas as well, but I wouldn't worry too much about an SD tune unless I was going to be changing altitude regularly.  That said I'll be sticking with a MAF unless I do some wild engine mods that require a custom tune.

Sorry to hear you're selling your car, for some reason I thought you'd decided to keep it.  I can't imagine ever selling mine, but I also can't imagine ever having kids and I'm sure that changes your priorities.

Quote from: halfspec
My clutch line is also heat shielded in DEI fire sleeve but it makes its patch down from the MC then to the framerail, back, and straight shots over the header around and over the collector area to the quick disconnect. I don't go through any primary tubes. It just goes over the merge at the collector and there is 1-2" of clearance. If you've got that option, I'd definitely recommend it over routing through the primaries, even if you've crafted a heatsink tube. Note, if you stick with the aluminum tube I would change the material. Heat goes right through aluminum because it's a great thermal conductor. Kinda the opposite of what you what you're shooting for.
Thanks for the feedback, I'm convinced the clutch line needs attention.  Hopefully the hydraulic fluid is acting as a coolant to some extent, and the aluminum tube was supposed to act like a reflective heat shield more than a heatsink, but I think your routing is definitely superior.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 04, 2016, 02:48:12 PM
Sorry to hear you're selling your car, for some reason I thought you'd decided to keep it.  I can't imagine ever selling mine, but I also can't imagine ever having kids and I'm sure that changes your priorities.

It's been a long time coming. The car's been back together and technically complete for 6-7 months and I've been planning to sell it for 5. Here's a snippet from my for sale ad going over my reasons for selling:

Why am I selling?
I got older, got married, had a kid, and now have a second on the way. I have zero time, have an ever shrinking budget, and my car needs have changed significantly now that I'm out of my 20s and getting into my mid-30s. I feel like I’ve accomplished everything I set out to do with this car, learned a lot, and had a blast doing it, but in the end my priorities have changed and it’s time to move on. Side issue for selling is that I moved to a new house last year and while it’s been fantastic, it’s on a gravel road. The road is pretty decent considering its gravel but I still have to drive the car like 2MPH down ¼ mile of gravel to get the RX7 safely out of the neighborhood and that’s wearing on me.



The biggest news above is that my second child is on the way, but I'd already decided to move on before we found out. He/She is due in October.

Hopefully the hydraulic fluid is acting as a coolant to some extent

I'm sure it is. It's the ~same physics that let you boil water in a plastic bottle over a flame instead of melting the bottle. I'm sure there are limitations to that type of heat transfer based on materials, but I've always given myself a little slack around hot parts when the hose in close proximity has liquid flowing through it.

Lane, I only meant it to be a cute quote and certainly didn't mean to give offense. 

No worries. I didn't mean that reply to single you out. I just used your reply as an excuse to monolog. I'm sorry I sounded offended... I wasn't  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: MPbdy on May 04, 2016, 05:44:11 PM
Haha my house is at 1500 ft of altitude and I can be at sea level in 45 minutes or at 4000 feet in 15 ;) I don't think your weather changes that drastically.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on May 04, 2016, 06:14:16 PM
Congratulations on the news!  :wave:
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 04, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
Congratulations on the news!  :wave:

Thanks Mike! Sorry. I thought I'd already told you  :cheers:

Haha my house is at 1500 ft of altitude and I can be at sea level in 45 minutes or at 4000 feet in 15 ;) I don't think your weather changes that drastically.

Maybe CA was a bad example. My only visits to CA have been straight to the valley. I never said a SD tune in MS was impossible though. I'm not arguing the positive aspects of going SD, I simply pumped the brakes on scope creep.  I've got $53k+ in parts in this car and I'm planning on losing $20k+ when I sell it (not even counting the 1100+ hrs of labor I've got in it). As good as the car is running I just don't see the value in going to SD at this point in the game.

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on May 04, 2016, 07:32:34 PM
If you are selling it don't bother going SD. But it will work just fine.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on May 04, 2016, 07:32:55 PM
Haha my house is at 1500 ft of altitude and I can be at sea level in 45 minutes or at 4000 feet in 15 ;) I don't think your weather changes that drastically.

Zing!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: BLKMGK on May 05, 2016, 01:51:44 AM
Air is a terrific insulator, I've had impossible headers with plug wires and tried it all including ceramic boots - the wire inside fried when physical contact was made! An air gap is the best way to go and if you can get a shield in the way too you can't block infrared and cool things further - like say a master cylinder. Once there's contact heat conducts through any material better :(
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 06, 2016, 09:34:32 PM
Looks like this one won't be making it to the for-sale section after all.

Deposit received. Tentatively sold  :drive:

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Skeltic on May 06, 2016, 09:53:53 PM
NOOOOOO  I  wanted  to  low  ball  you soooo  bad
,
Oh  well,,,  here  I  go,,, 10  G's and not a penny  more.!



Serious though  you  are  an rx7  god, and your  car  is  sorted  way  better  then 99.9%  of  all  the  other swaps,  god  speed




May  Vishnu  maintain your path
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Tictakman on May 06, 2016, 11:15:52 PM
And....whats next Lane??
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digitalsolo on May 07, 2016, 01:05:26 AM
Sad to hear it's sold, but happy for you.

As a next project, I strongly recommend anything that's not 50+ years old or needs any type of body work.   Speaking from experience.  LOL
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on May 07, 2016, 06:57:46 AM
 :(  that's all.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 07, 2016, 09:32:53 AM
Thanks guys. I feel like this is pretty locked up now. I was approached by two serious buyers behind-the-scenes after post 957. I won't go into detail, but I got my full asking price and the buyer that lost out ended up letting me know last night that they would match the best offer if the current deal falls through for any reason. The current deal is strong, but it's always nice to have a strong backup too since it seems like these types of purchases don't always go through as planned.  It'll probably be a couple of weeks before the keys change hands. I'll let the buyer reveal themselves and/or the purchase price at their discretion.

Skeltic - Thanks buddy. You should have jumped in after my last announcement ;)

What's next?

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/soNhQqAlMIA/hqdefault.jpg)

Family hauling burnouts!

Haha! Actually, I think I would enjoy an astro, but my wife just isn't ready for that. I have no shame when it comes to minivans. They are a purpose built vehicle and they do exactly what they are designed to do exceptionally well. Try and explain that to a 30 year old woman though :P I actually convinced her to go with an astro for about a day, but she came to me with tears in her eyes that night and said she just couldn't do it. Ah well. I'll revisit that dream down the road.

No, the plan right now is to divide the proceeds into 3 departments. 1. Baby fund (umbrella to partially cover my wife's doctor cheddar while she's on extended maternity leave). 2. Family Vehicle. 3. Replacement DD vehicle for me
I'm at the end of the pecking order, but that was my call.
I'm also selling my ~212k 04 BMW 525i. Its' in good shape but I'll probably only get ~$3k for it.

The family car is most likely going to be a 06+ Mercedes Benz R350. I couldn't convince my wife to get an astro, but we've compromised on the R350. It's fairly luxurious and has almost the transporting power of a van. It's a funny looking SOB but I think we'll be happy with it.

My replacement car is a little fuzzier at the moment. I've actually been causally looking at replacement options for several years now, and seriously looking over the last 5 months. Being the nerd I am, I even put together a spreadsheet of candidates listing their pros and cons for all my potentials. I even created new metrics for myself including measurements of mod fever, DD guilt, rarity, and sleeper levels. The mod fever metric was especially helpful because it ruled out 335i's and WRXs. I realized I couldn't trade projects for projects in the sense that certain cars are a sandbox for tinkering. I was seriously working towards buying a 12k mile 2002 bugeye WRX in pristine condition for almost a month. The problem was it was really only a pristine roller because its engine and transmission were gone. I actually preferred that as I could pickup a rev7 EJ205 from Japan with a 6speed gearbox. However, I finally rattled back to my senses and realized the WRX was just the beginning of another money/time pit and I had to put a stop to those dreams. Similar story with the < 09 335is. The TT N54 is an amazing engine. Seriously, to me it's the modern equivalent of a DI supra with 4 doors. With software tunes it can match the performance of a e39 M5. With boltons it can easily surpass it. All while being cheaper... At least initially. Walked away because I know a turbo'd car is just too tempting to mod.

I think a good bit of you know I've looked into e39 M5s and W211 E55s pretty seriously. Unfortunately I'm not 100% I'm going to able to get into one since my budget is going to be around $16k after everything shuffles out. I don't want a car payment, so that's pretty much it. $16k makes it really hard to get a cared for M5 under 100k. E55s are a little easier to get in that range but I'm still concerned about finding one with adequate service & documentation vs mileage. The newest player in my quest for a replacement cars is the MB W220 S500. I've never really been into S-class MBs, but looking at the market is swaying me. The depreciation on these is insane. I could easily pick one up with 40-50k miles on it in pristine condition within my budget and still have some money left over for goodies. Yes, they have their flaws. Everything on my list does. But, for some reason the W220s really scare people. After reading up on them for months I found out why. Their owner-base is filled with people that can't even change their own oil and they're extraordinarily vocal whiners. The warnings of cost of ownership come from the lips of the uninformed OR people who can't do their own work. Sure its going to be expensive for them to own because they truck their cars to the dealership for everything, but me? I think I'll be fine. I keep coming back to the fact that pretty much ANYTHING I choose is going to be cheaper to own and service than what I've put into the RX7 yearly for 6 years now.
I can setup a MB STAR diagnostic system and I've worked on my own german car for 5 years now. It's not complicated. People just fear the unknown and the electrical side of these cars scares the crap out of them. Not that I'm complaining. That's whats going to make the prices so sweet if I pick one up :D

So yes, the next car will be a big departure from the RX7. I'm getting older and I like my luxury rides.

As for the RX7, I'll be closing the loop on this build thread over the next month. I'm planning to document the last bit of work on the car (battery lead, plugs, and wires) then I'll get into posting pictures I made for the sale of the car.

It's been a lot of fun. I'll definitely be hanging around. Lord knows I won't find this level of competency around the MB / BMW forums  :yay:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: 65imp on May 07, 2016, 01:10:44 PM
Pez actually did the LS-Astro years back.  I considered the same to replace my 89 voyager turbo years back.  He stated that marching inside/outside the car to access both sides of the engine gets old REAL fast.  That said, smoking guys in your minivan is about the best feeling ever...   :chug:

In terms of you MB plans, I thought I would just leave this right here for those that are unaware: 

http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-sound-like-a-pagani-zonda-1611782156 (http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-sound-like-a-pagani-zonda-1611782156)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-iV59F7E7s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-iV59F7E7s)

Hell yeah man.  Start a build thread on whatever you decide on. 
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on May 07, 2016, 01:43:22 PM
[smg id=8249 type=full align=center caption="image"]

Genesis sedan R spec? 429 hp 5.0 V8.  Large 4 pot Brembo brakes, 10 year warranty..

Making it sound good is super easy, it has bumper mounted exhaust finishers.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 08, 2016, 08:59:03 AM
Genesis sedan R spec? 429 hp 5.0 V8.  Large 4 pot Brembo brakes, 10 year warranty..

Sounds good. Got one you want to sell me for < $16k?

my budget is going to be around $16k after everything shuffles out. I don't want a car payment, so that's pretty much it.

Pez actually did the LS-Astro years back.  I considered the same to replace my 89 voyager turbo years back.  He stated that marching inside/outside the car to access both sides of the engine gets old REAL fast.  That said, smoking guys in your minivan is about the best feeling ever...   :chug:

Haha! Yeah, I remember Greg's astro. Definitely a factor in me wanting to try one. Good point about having to be in two places at once to work on them though  :scratch:

I'd love to get a NA V12 W220 S600, but there maintenance requirements brake checked me. I like a challenge, but I also don't want to be in my garage working on it every week either, especially when S600's have common powertrain problems. I'm generally ok with MB vehicles because their powertrains are usually pretty solid. When I can't count on that the appeal is quickly lost.
I'd be up for a bi-turbo V12 in the 03+ W220 S600s because it's supposed to be an order of magnitude more reliable than the NA V12, but even then they come with ABC / hydraulic suspension. Airmatic has aftermarket support. ABC doesn't. Same with the AMG variants like the S55. Don't know if it's worth it

Lane




Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: largeorangefont on May 08, 2016, 11:29:15 AM

my budget is going to be around $16k after everything shuffles out. I don't want a car payment, so that's pretty much it.


You can get one with under 50k miles for under $20k just doing a 10 second search. I'm all for buying used German Luxo barges, but you just have to keep a couple grand free to fix any stupid problems that might arise.

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 08, 2016, 11:57:46 AM
You can get one with under 50k miles for under $20k just doing a 10 second search.

Help me out. I did more than a 10 second search this morning and I didn't find any in the teens with mileage that low. Even in the high teens it's out of my budget. $16k is tops.
I'm totally open to suggestions. They've just got to be something that works within the constraints of my budget

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: stubbyfoil on May 11, 2016, 10:38:53 PM
Hey Lane, I'm an 11+ year MB Dealer Master Tech, have owned a w211 E55AMG, and have recently been flipping MB cars on the side. Feel free to shoot me any questions about common problems to look for in certain chassis. I can run MB VMI's (Vehicle Master Inquiry) for free, which is Mercedes Dealer Specific complete vehicle history if you find a few cars you're looking at.

I try to stay away from any ABC equipped car simply because parts are crazy expensive. (4x)~$1000 hydraulic shocks, (2x) $300 fluid accumulators, (2x) $2000 valve blocks, $35/liter synthetic hydraulic fluid, and $~1800 "tandem" Power steering/ABC high pressure pump. I also really dislike the R class, but don't get me started on that one haha.

Ive loved watching your build, and have found tons of inspiration here. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 11, 2016, 11:01:04 PM
Hey Lane, I'm an 11+ year MB Dealer Master Tech, have owned a w211 E55AMG, and have recently been flipping MB cars on the side. Feel free to shoot me any questions about common problems to look for in certain chassis. I can run MB VMI's (Vehicle Master Inquiry) for free, which is Mercedes Dealer Specific complete vehicle history if you find a few cars you're looking at.

I try to stay away from any ABC equipped car simply because parts are crazy expensive. (4x)~$1000 hydraulic shocks, (2x) $300 fluid accumulators, (2x) $2000 valve blocks, $35/liter synthetic hydraulic fluid, and $~1800 "tandem" Power steering/ABC high pressure pump. I also really dislike the R class, but don't get me started on that one haha.

Ive loved watching your build, and have found tons of inspiration here. Best of luck!

Thank you! I'm glad my thread served some use for you  :cheers:

I know enough to stay away from ABC cars which is one of the reasons I've steered clear of S600s and S55s. However, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the R class. I'll PM you as it's probably a conversation that's best had offline :)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 22, 2016, 09:09:04 PM
Car officially sold and made the 9hr trip to the new owners garage earlier today.
It's been fun y'all  :cheers:

I'll finish up this build thread with final pictures of the car as time permits
Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on May 22, 2016, 09:43:37 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on May 22, 2016, 10:30:24 PM
Please stay active on the forum
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: piglet on May 22, 2016, 10:31:54 PM
Please stay active on the forum

what he said^
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: digital_hoon on May 23, 2016, 08:45:58 AM
Congrats/I'm sorry for your loss. New owner got one helluva car!
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: wickedrx7 on May 23, 2016, 09:15:42 AM
Do please stick around no matter what your next project is. I love seeing some the alternative build threads like Blake's and Joel's.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 23, 2016, 11:48:24 AM
Thanks guys. I'll definitely stick around. I don't think I'll ever completely get away from the PM system here haha! I guess my posts won't let people forget I know a think or two about the electronics in these cars ;)

Found out yesterday we're going to have another daughter. Due in October 2016. 3 against 1 guys  :poke:

Next project for me is almost definitely going to be an E55. I'll decide if its forum worthy down the road though. I suspect there won't be anything really that mindblowing done to it since it's going to remain mostly stock. The exception being that I may revamp it's AV system and that's one area where I may be able to inspire other peoples plans.

I've made a breakthrough with the wife and the next vehicle selection. Finding out about our daughter on Saturday really helped to drive the fact that we're going to have an infant on our hands in October and everything that comes with it (parents that have traveled with an infant know what I mean). Anyway, the practical aspects of vans finally started to chink away at her decisions for a new vehicle. We've now switched from looking at crossovers to the real deal. Mostly Honda Odysseys and Toyota Seinnas at this point. I'm pretty excited because even though I've owned a pretty FD, I'm still a basic function over form kinda guy and even though a minivan is boring, I'll happily take it for the practical functions.

At this point I wanted to try and wrap up some of the work done on the car in the last days I owned it:

#1 - Battery Lead.

I completely replaced the battery lead with this:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160511_203212717_zps44d10sfl.jpg)

The engine bay section is completely sleeved in DEI fire sleeve and it makes its way into the cabin under the ABS pump through a rubber grommit. I never got a really good picture of the routing, so here's an approximation:

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/batterylead_zpsnoephgy0.jpg)

Like I said the entrance to the cabin is under the ABS pump. It comes out and then over to the top of the LS intake (rear). Next it makes its way to the front of the engine under the coil cover then makes its way down to the heater hose area under the surge tank. Finally it makes a straight shot back to the starter when I created a 90 dregree terminal that bolts to the starter lug without any excess wire bending. Works great and has miles of header clearance vs my old route.

#2 - Spark plugs and wires.

Rerouting the battery lead really opened up the space between cylinders 6 and 8 so that spark plug wire route automatically became a easy path with no direct path with the primaries. The path between cylinders 6 and 4 was still a little crowded simply because of my lokar dipstick, but taking advantage of MSD spark plug wire's memory forming boots, I was able to get both routed with a good bit of clearance on both sides between the primaries.
The result was zero backfires and smooth acceleration. There is still some jerkiness in low load cruising situations. I never got to try using a honeycomb air straightener, but honestly, I don't know that that would have solved it 100%. I suspect the SD guys (namely Daniel) are correct and the ultimate solution is to kill to MAF and go 100% SD. The new owner is already taking strides to make this happen.

#3 - Aiming Headlights

(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160516_205446517_zpstirlrklh.jpg)

I've never really taken a ton of pictures of my headlights. I don't know why. They're one of my favorite mods for the car. In my opinion, good lighting should be the first safety mod for any car that gets driven in the dark

Here's why I knew they needed some help:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160516_205847915_zpsv4i0etjt.jpg)

Here's the cutoff after adjustment:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160516_211043331_HDR_zpsjoobq6et.jpg)

Compare that with my BMW's HIDs which are mounted a good 6" higher off the ground:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160516_211831539_HDR_zpshqmk8nfc.jpg)

That pretty much wrapped up with loose ends with the car. After finishing these items I drove the car once to work, got paranoid when a big AT&T truck backed up in a space next to me (external contractors coming onsight which I didn't know about), and promptly drove it home for the remainder of its time with me. Sunday I drove the car 2 hours to Birhingham, AL and met the new owner at the airport. The only real surprise that happened on the way down was my drivers side window switch just stopped working. Only the driver's window was affected and I am almost certain it was just a contact issue because I got it to go up and down twice over 5 minutes of fiddling. Regardless I refunded the new owner enough money to buy a new switch and let them have it. I wish the new owner luck and hope the car brings him years of joy  :cheers:

Quick pics I took over the last days:

Dirty and at work before AT&T showed up:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160517_070905105_HDR_zpsglbb3kea.jpg)

Washing for delivery:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/IMG_20160519_192548214_zpsobjvevqb.jpg)

Last pic of the 7 in my garage:
(http://www.halfspec.com/pictures/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160522_061348759_zpsguskx3bg.jpg)

Coming next I'll post my for sale add + some fancy sale pictures

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 23, 2016, 12:23:11 PM
Sale Ad

(http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/f/flashing-light/graphics-flashing-light-245546.gif) Warning - This is ONLY for documentation purposes. This car is SOLD (http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/f/flashing-light/graphics-flashing-light-245546.gif)

Hello and welcome to the sale of my LS1 swapped RX7

This car is the culmination of 7 years of work, over 1100 of my personal hours in labor/ research, and $53k+ in parts invested (not counting my labor which accounts for 95% of the labor done on the car). It’s something I always took my time with and never traded sub-par work or parts in exchange for a quicker turn-around. I built this car to be a 400whp daily driver that could take serious abuse day in and day out and still get 29mpg on the highway. I won’t make wild claims saying this is the fastest and best LS swapped FD out there, but I will say it is an extremely well sorted swap that exhibits seamless integration at factory levels. The type of documentation that goes along with this car is second to none. While project cars usually come with a lot of unknowns, my car will come with my build thread, 1000’s of pictures, a full bound wiring diagram that has been completely re-written for this car, and receipts that document every nut and bolt used to build this monster. Seriously, my index of receipts covers 220+ of scanned-in and digital receipts which covers thousands of parts on the car. I haven’t seen any car that’s sold on norotors with this type of accounting work built in and you’d be hard pressed to find it anywhere. You can relax with the fact that every square inch of this car is documented and there won’t be ANY guess work on your part trying to figure out details of any system on the car that I’ve worked on.
Pictures can be seen in my flickr gallery (https://flic.kr/s/aHskAHCw2d), but for a full review of my car, please sees my build thread here:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.0 (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.0)

In the following sections I want to hit the main areas of the car and mention some select parts used in the upgrades / restoration. I did leave out the small stuff to keep the listing from stretching out 20+ pages. For a full look at ALL the parts used, please see my reference section below near the bottom of this listing.

Chassis:
This 1993 Touring Mazda RX7 started its life with me as an originally manual Montego Blue 80k mile roller here in Mississippi. It has a clear title and has never been wrecked. It was an excellent starting point for this build. Before swapping the engine, I stripped the car down to the bare chassis and prepped it using spray on Lizard skin sound control and ceramic insulation in the interior and sprayed POR15 + a UV protective top coat in the engine bay (black to prepare for the car’s future paint job). While on jackstands I also coated the wheel wells and transmission tunnel with 3M rubberized undercoating. To date I have only added 2620 miles to the swap (total of 82,620 miles) which is approximately what the new parts on this car have seen mileage wise.

Suspension:
As part of this conversion I upgraded the entire suspension setup. The four corners of the car sit on fully adjustable Koni shocks that incorporate KYB shock boots. The shocks are topped with Ground Control coilovers and aluminum perches to give fully adjustable height (currently 25” from the bottom of the tire to the top of the wheel well). I then went through and installed a 28 piece SuperPro bushing kit. Finally, things were topped off with a set of 5-Zigen FN01R-C Matte Black - 17" x 10" -35 wheels (currently still in near mint condition with zero curb rash) wrapped with Nitto NT 555 Tires (Front = 255/40ZR-17, Rear = P275/40ZR-17) and bolted on with Work lug nuts. Both the front and rear fenders were rolled flat (not pulled) with an eastwood fender roller. The current wheels and tires fit and do not rub even at full lock in motion with the current ride height.

Engine:
The LS1 383CI stroker engine was originally built and purchased by a GM master tech who’s a friend of mine. The specs on the engine at the time of purchase were as follows:

Ls1 aluminum block built for 10.4:1 compression with only 4k miles on it as built.
Complete assembly is balanced
Forged flat top 3.90" Mahle pistons
Forged Eagle rods
Forged Eagle stroker crank with 4" stroke designed to displace 383CI.
Patriot LQ9 heads with 72cc chambers 2.055"/1.60" valves with harland sharp 1.7 roller rockers.
Comp pushrods and lifters.
GM performance oil Pump and chain
Arp rod and main bolts
Trick flow head gaskets
Patriot custom cam .585"/.585" lift, 226/226 duration and 112 lsa
Water pump, Ac Compressor and both tensioners (Brand new 0 miles)
Monster Stage 2.5 Clutch (Brand new 0 miles)

Since then I have added the following:
LS6 Intake + TB
LS6 PCV Conversion
Samberg LS7 MAF Intake Tube
Samberg TB Bracket
MSD Spark Plug Wires + NGK TR55 Plugs
Lokar Dipstick
Low Mileage LS1 coil packs
Powdercoated Coil Covers
LS7 ACDelco 213-4222 MAF
Power Steering Pump
Brake Booster Check Valve
Pez Power Steering Line
New Duralast Starter
New rear cover seal and rear main seal installed 700 miles ago.
Mik3ymomo hood strut kit
See more in my receipts list (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Oon1Q_r0b3OUlHVGpka3RBLWc/view?usp=sharing).

Dyno Tune
This car has received 5+ hours of dyno time & street tuning at Carma Performance out of Nashville TN and 15+ hours of tuning and street logging by me previous to the official dyno visit. Carma Performance spent most of the time dialing in the MAF and VE tables for accurate fueling calculations that makes for a fantastic daily driver tune. They also spent time optimizing the spark table and WOT response. Car cranks on the first try and idles like a monster baby. Truly a fantastic daily driver with the power to lay the smack down on the majority of road cars out there.
Unfortunately I wasn’t able to get dyno graphs or logged power numbers. After spending time dialing in the tune, the dyno started to lose its ability to hold the car’s power. Apparently some hard hitters were on the dyno previous to my car and my car’s pull let the owner know the dyno was in need of repair. Fueling calculations based on ~63% duty cycle of the 49lb/hr injectors @ WOT in 4th gear pulls puts the car at ~ 420WHP and ~ 490HP at the flywheel holding an AFR of 12.5.
I know a dyno sheet is a big selling point and I’m disappointed I don’t have one to offer. The tuner feels very confident in the calculated HP numbers above but if you wanted to buy the car and meet at another dyno to get harder numbers and finalize the sale, I’d be happy to make it happen.

Transmission:
It started its life as a Dodge Viper T56. To mate it to my LS1 I swapped the bell housing, front plate, and bell housing (specially machined to work with the viper output shaft). Most recently the entire transmission was completely rebuilt by Texas Drivetrain Performance which included:
New Rear, 2nd, and 6th gears
Carbon kevlar synchro rings
Billet 1-2 keys
Billet 3-4 keys
Bronze 1-2-3-4 fork pads
Bronze shifter bushing
Steel 3-4 shift fork
All New Seals
All new bearings
Countershaft Extension
Brand new GM slave cylinder & throwout bearing
Brand new knurled GM pilot bearing
Brand new GM flywheel and pressure plate bolts
All in, it was a $2.1k rebuild that only has ~ 700 miles on it since the rebuild. It shifts like a dream now and is strong enough take anything thrown at it.
To control this beast I installed a new MGW short shifter. Recently I had my machinist at work turn the shifter handle in a lathe to take another 1” of length off of the shifter for an even sportier look and feel. To mate with the rear end I purchased and installed a custom aluminum Drive Shaft Shop driveshaft.

Rear End:
To hold the power of the engine and put it to the ground with a useable gear ratio I chose to use a 04 Mustang Cobra 8.8” differential with a 3.55 gear ratio. The completed setup uses the following parts
04 Cobra Differential with 3.55 gears, stock LSD, and 30k miles
Samberg modified rear cover
Driveshaftshop cobra to RX7 axle bars
04 Cobra CV inners
93 Mazda CV outers

Powertrain Mounts:
The engine, transmission, and rear end are all bolted in with Samberg subframe mounts. The mounts were prepped and sprayed with gloss black POR15 before being installed.

Exhaust:
The exhaust setup has been a true labor of love. I went through 2 exhausts (one that didn’t even make it on the car) before I dreamed up the third and final exhaust which comes with the car. The exhaust merges to a single 3” after the headers and was made to flow without being obnoxiously loud. The end result is an exhaust that barks when you touch the throttle but calms down like a puppy during cruise without a hint of drone (when using the resonator).
1 7/8” JTR Longtube Headers with ceramic coating and v-band flanges
3” Y collector straight off the headers into a single 3” v-band (jointly fabricated by V8-rx7 / Anthony and John from Jackson MS)
From the collector there are two options (both included with sale). A vibrant resonator or a straight through pipe both start and end with a v-band flange (V8-rx7 / Anthony fabricated)
From the resonator / straight pipe there is a mid pipe that leads to the last v-band connection and the muffler options (fabricated by John in Jackson MS)
Finally there are two muffler options that come with the car. Either can be swapped in, in a matter of minutes as they simply v-band to the midpipe. One is a vibrant round muffler and the other is an oval vibrant muffler (V8-rx7 / Anthony fabricated).
Every inch of the exhaust from the headers back is stainless steel and TIG welded to perfection. Check out the pictures (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg290860#msg290860) because my description can’t do it justice. Also, check out the clearance in my sale photos below because I know there were some doubters here that said the v-bands would just subtract ground clearance. I think you'll find that apart from the header v-bands (which everyone has to deal with) that's not the case.

Cooling / Heat Management
Special attention was given to heat management and properly cooling the engine and the driver. Some highlights of the system include:
Samberg rev2 Radiator/CAI/Surge Tank (powdercoated black)
Brand new A/C condenser
Spark Plug Heatsleeve Boots
DEI Firesleeves for clutch line, brake line, fuel line, AC Hoses, heater hoses, and trunk release
20psi Stant Radiator cap
Custom Molded Heater Hoses that supply a fully working heater core inside for you upstate hosers!
Custom factory grade A/C complete with R12 refrigerant to get you the one of the coldest blowing LS RX7’s in existence. Seriously. I just took a 10hr round trip to a tuner and it froze me out.

Fuel System:
The fuel system has seen 4 revisions since it originally went on my car. The entire system is tied together using Summit racing fuel rated black nylon -8AN and -6AN hose and fittings. Here are the main parts as it stands right now:
Sumped Fuel Tank (Absolutely zero fuel starvation) with -8AN outlet (one unused 1/2NPT port is currently plugged)
-8AN 100um pre-pump Summit Racing fuel filter
Exterior in-line Bosch 044 Fuel Pump
Jay Racing BFP-CV6 Check Valve
-8AN 25um post-pump Summit Racing fuel filter
Aeromotive 13101 FPR
Stock LS1 fuel rail
42lb SVO Injectors (Flow 49lb/hr at GM’s standard fuel pressure of 59psi)

Brakes:
Front brakes rebuilt
Stoptech Stainless Brake Lines
Hawk HPS Brake Pads
Slotted and Drilled Brake Rotors
POR15 Caliper Painted front and rear calipers
See more in receipts list (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Oon1Q_r0b3OUlHVGpka3RBLWc/view?usp=sharing)

Interior:
No expense was spared for my interior. I am a firm believer that for a car to be ‘sorted’ the interior needs to sparkle ;)
The original and very exclusive full Speedhut Gauge conversion
Momo Tuner Steering Wheel (with working horn and turn signal canceler)
NRG Short Hub Adapter
NRG Quick Release
Brand new black ACC Carpet
Moddiction.com Billet CNC’d Shift Knob powdercoated in textured black.
MGW Trans Tunnel Plate with Boot
Redline Leather - Shift Boot
Redline Leather - Ebrake Boot
Redline Leather - Center Console
Redline Leather - Passenger Handle (one of 2 known to exist)
flyrx7 - 4 Gauge Pod
SakeBomb Aluminum Passenger Handle
JasonS - Non Bose Cargo Mat with Red Logo
JasonS - Floor Mats with Red Logo
Fire85GSLSE - < 40k Miles Leather Seats
Dash trim professionally painted by John in Jackson, MS. It uses SEM chip guard as a basis for texture then relies on an automotive PPG 2k semi-gloss topcoat for protection. Extremely good looking and durable.
Sprayed Dash Support bar black with POR15
Sprayed Pedal supports Black
Sprayed steering shaft Black
Stripped down and rebuilt the entire heater box and evaporator box with new foam and seals.
Gentex rearview mirror with auto-dim and garage door openers
JDM arm rest
Bubbles Tech Map Door Lid
See more in receipts list (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Oon1Q_r0b3OUlHVGpka3RBLWc/view?usp=sharing)

Exterior:
Gorgeous Jet Black PPG Deltron Paint job that’s less than a year old. Another serious labor of love this is one of the car’s ultimate features. After a failed local paintjob I asked a friend I made from the mr2 world named John Arbuthnot based out of Jackson MS to strip and redo the car. Over a period of 10 months John crafted a flawless paintjob that quite frankly blows me away every time I look at it. It’s one of the best color changes you’ll ever see. Between John’s work and the painting I did (engine bay + lizard skin in the interior), the only montego blue you’ll find is a tiny bit of factory overspray under the car (see pics). Truly a work of art and the process was meticulously documented. Something I would definitely recommend walking through in my build thread (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.msg262646#msg262646).

Shaved windshield squirters (welded shut with aluminum)
Shaved hatch spoiler holes (welded shut)
Shaved rear bumper emblem holes
Shaved from bumper emblem holes
Removed rock guard from rocker panels and extended paint for an ultra clean look.
Aluminum door handles (completely rebuilt and powdercoated black)
99 Spec Bumper
99 Spec Lip
Smoked Running Lights
99+ Spec Black Combo Lights
99+ Spec tail lights
Factory popups converted using true clear lenses, D2S projectors, 4,300k HID Phillips bulbs, Morimoto ballasts, and E55 shrouds for a factory HID experience.
Windshield – Brand new and installed during paint
37% Lumar Black tint on door and hatch glass installed during paint

New Mazda OEM Parts:
During my build I found various parts that either didn’t meet my standards in their current state/condition or just simply needed to be replaced. The list is several hundred parts long and represents just under $4k in cost so I decided to list it all in my  complete receipts list (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Oon1Q_r0b3OUlHVGpka3RBLWc/view?usp=sharing) to save space in this listing. Some of the highlights include replacing pretty much every rubber molding / weatherstrip in the car (big $$$), new wheel studs, new suspension pillowball bushings, new gauge cluster lens, new brake MC, new wheel bearings, new seat belt buckles etc etc. See the whole list for the rest of the parts on the car.

Electrical:
I saved the best for last. Here’s where I’ll toot my horn a little bit.
By trade I’m an electrical engineer, so giving the car a complete electrical makeover was a task I felt comfortable tackling and it’s what really sets my car apart from the crowd. Let me remind you that although some of these modifications may seem excessive and may worry future owners with thoughts of having to service it, every single thing I have touched is documented, diagramed, photographed, and tied together in my car’s new electrical manual. This is my gift to the next owner.

HalfSpec's FSM (http://www.ls1fc.com/pdfs/Halfspec_FSM.pdf)

To start, I have gone through every inch of original wiring in my car and removed all rotary related wiring. All of the following mods were integrated into the stock and LS1 harnesses while the wire sleeve / wrap was removed. Any extra wiring added was always TXL crosslinked automotive grade wire and was terminated with automotive grade Delphi Packard connectors. All additional wiring and connectors were always fused and gauged for the maximum amount of current the wire would ever see. After modifying all of my harnesses I re-sleeved everything with black nylon sleeving.

Completely customized and integrated LS1 engine harness
Completely upgraded Speedhut gauge system including 4 pod mounted (top of dash) auxiliary gauges. Both sections of gauges can easily be removed with a single plug. All gauges work 100%
New consolidated, relocated, easily accessed (engine compartment), and labeled fuse and relay box.
Relocated Battery to passenger side rear bin.
Relocated LS1 PCM to passenger side rear bin
Installed AEM EUGO wideband sensor and controller in passenger side rear bin
Fully integrated RaceLogic Traction Control system with control panel mounted in the lower dash DIN. Its brain was installed behind the driver’s side rear bin with a small access panel in the bin itself. Hardwired bypass was integrated into the LS1 harness so it can quickly be disabled by unplugging it and terminating the LS1 harness with an included plug. The system can also always be turned off with the control panel. This is a rare option as Racelogic is now out of business and a lot of people are scrambling to find this system for their cars.
Fully Integrated Viper 5901 2 way alarm. Functions include:
Wiring fully integrated with other harnesses so wiring cannot be traced to the brain which, by the way, is nowhere to be found under the driver’s side of the dash (location will only be disclosed to new owner).
Door, trunk, and hood triggers
Fully calibrated microwave sensor (senses movement inside the car without having to use a
vibration sensor (no more activated car alarms with thunder / loud car exhuast) )
Factory Alarm indicator light (upgraded with red LED inside)
Alarm siren mounted inside front bumper
Keyless entry (passenger AND driver’s side)
Rear Trunk Pop
Running lights blip when arming disarming
Starter Cut (Does NOT use the factory starter cut relay)
¼ mile 2 way range to page the remote if someone activates the alarm
Hella Horns with a very minimized / optimized circuit tied to the Momo steering wheel. Works even though the steering wheel is removable.
Optima billet battery tray
Optimum red top battery
Prewired hookup for Battery Tender Jr.
AEM UEGO Wideband
Self Exciting Regulator for Alternator (makes the alternator have a cleaner install as it eliminates the need for any wiring)
All interior and exterior bulbs were replaced with brand new http://www.autolumination.com (http://www.autolumination.com) bulbs.
All dash and console buttons switches and displays were upgraded with blue and red LEDs.
Rear relay box was added under the Driver’s side bin to facilitate the new functionality of the fuel pump, rear defrost, and trunk popper.
Integrated LS1 PCM Controlled Dual Stage Fan Control
Integrated LS1 PCM controlled A/C Compressor Control actuated with the stock A/C button.
Integrated LS1 PCM controlled Fuel Pump Control
Integrated LS1 PCM controlled MIL Light
Switched 12V Auxiliary Connector Located by Dome Light (for future install of radar detector).
Fully functional high and low HID control
Hardwired autodimming Gentex rearview mirror with programmable garage door buttons
The cleanest kickpanels you’re likely to ever see in a 7 (swapped or not) ;)

Audio System:
I wrapped up the car with a modest 3-way active (crossovers are digital) audio system. The installation quality is on par with the rest of my electrical work and was fully documented. The components include:

Pioneer DEH-80PRS headunit
Dual Image Dynamic ID8 rev3 subs installed in a DamonB inspired sub box placed behind the hatch divider
Zapco ZSL-165 6.5" components mounted in the doors with speaker adapters from car-speaker-adapters.com and the tweeters were installed in the A-pillars using custom aimed pods.
Finally the system is all tied together with a JBL GTO-5EZ amp (150 watts to each front woofer (4ohms) and 500watts to the subs (2ohms parallel)). Tweeters are powered straight off the headunit. The amplifier is mounted to the back of the sub box and is fully accessible when the hatch divider is removed (see pictures).

Paperwork and Extras that will come with the sale of the car:
Clear Title
Bill of Sale
Digital copy of the engine tune in the form of a HPTuners file. I do have a HPTuners Pro interface that’s not included with the sale of this car, however, I’m open to offers.
Digital copy of 220+ receipts + index
Physical copy of 100+ paper receipts
Digital and Physical copy of full car electrical diagram
Traction control and starter kill bypass plugs
Master and Valet keys + 2 Viper Alarm dongles (One two-way and One one-way)
Work wheel lug key
Any and all physical manuals I have for the parts installed
Digital copy of every picture I have that I’ve taken of the car

Reference Materials:
Build Thread (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=70.0)
Completely Customized Wiring Diagram Document (http://www.ls1fc.com/pdfs/Halfspec_FSM.pdf)
Receipts (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Oon1Q_r0b3OUlHVGpka3RBLWc/view?usp=sharing)

Note – The version of the receipts list in the link above is only a reference and is incomplete as it doesn’t actually include active links to the scanned in receipts. The full version that will come with the car will include all the linked and scanned in receipts + the actual hard copies (giant stack).

I believe that’s it for the build list of my car. There are plenty of odds and ends that weren’t listed for the sake of brevity, but you can reference everything to your heart’s content by reading through my build thread, receipt list, and electrical documentation.

Gotchas:
There are none. This car is 100% sorted. I listed this car several years ago asking more than I’m asking now with a list of 8 things that still needed to be done (including paint, exhaust, and audio system). I’ve put $12k+ into the car to wrap up the loose ends since my original listing and I’m asking less for it now that I did originally. I believe my asking price is much more realistic this time around and a steal for this car. When I put the car up for sale the first time, I had burnt out. This time I finished strong and worked out every nagging issue. The car has been finished for 6 months now and I’ve been preparing to sell it for 3. Every little weird issue that’s come up has been worked out and everything works. This is a truly sorted car.

Why am I selling?
I got older, got married, had a kid, and now have a second on the way. I have zero time, have an ever shrinking budget, and my car needs have changed significantly now that I'm out of my 20s and getting into my mid-30s. I feel like I’ve accomplished everything I set out to do with this car, learned a lot, and had a blast doing it, but in the end my priorities have changed and it’s time to move on. Side issue for selling is that I moved to a new house last year and while it’s been fantastic, it’s on a gravel road. The road is pretty decent considering its gravel but I still have to drive the car like 2MPH down ¼ mile of gravel to get the RX7 safely out of the neighborhood and that’s wearing on me.

Brass Tax:
I am asking for $XX,XXX USD all in which is more than $20k less than what I’ve got in the car in parts alone not even counting the 1100+ hours over 7 years (equivalent to half a year of work at my full time job) I’ve got in it (engineering time ain’t cheap).
I’d like to be able to bluff and say “I don’t have to sell this car” or I’ll sit on this car forever until it sells for my asking price, but realistically I have to sell it and I need to move it before the next baby comes in October so I’ve got a progressive pricing strategy which will lower the price over time. Please don’t take that to mean I’m ready to slash prices immediately as I’m not in a bind financially and I won’t be buying tShe replacement family cars until after this car has sold. I’m not going to accept low offers during the first couple of weeks and I won’t be dropping the price by thousands every month. You couldn’t build a more gorgeous, solid, and sorted LSX FD for less than my asking price. I guarantee it.

-----------End of ad-----------

Like I said, the above ad is simply a historical document at this point because the car isn't even in Mississippi anymore. Please don't message me asking to buy it  ;)

Lane


Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 23, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Pictures

Here are some pictures I took that were originally meant for the sale ad. Since the car was never officially listed, only a handful of people actually saw them. I thought I'd share  :cheers:

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Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: paul_3rdgen on May 23, 2016, 04:33:33 PM
The time and effort you put into an ad that you didn't have to write is proof alone to how you approached this build.   Well done, and good luck on your future builds!
Hope you stick around, this forum has some great people and it sucks to loose them.


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Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 23, 2016, 04:47:27 PM
The time and effort you put into an ad that you didn't have to write is proof alone to how you approached this build.   Well done, and good luck on your future builds!
Hope you stick around, this forum has some great people and it sucks to loose them.

Thanks Paul  :cheers:

Finally got the pictures debugged above so I've got a couple more to post:

More Pics

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Technically the pictures in this post are from 2 years ago. Specifically they were for my last false start of a sale. I just thought a couple of the pictures captured aspects of the car I didn't capture as well the second round, so here they are.

Lane

Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 23, 2016, 05:11:25 PM
Credit for the decent shots above (some are cell phone pics) goes to Mik3ymomo. He helped me pickup a really great camera that I wouldn't have been able to afford otherwise and has coached me through the beginning phases of photography so that I am able claim a solid amateur status ;)

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on May 23, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
what camera is that it takes great pictures?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on May 23, 2016, 06:08:15 PM
what camera is that it takes great pictures?

It's a Nikon D300. Its an older but nice middle of the road DSLR.
Just keep in mind though; A nice camera is like a nice musical instrument. Just because you have a baby grand in your den doesn't mean you'll get Mozart out of it, whereas a musician can play beautiful melodies with your toddler's plastic piano in the corner. That's the best way I know how to put it. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking the camera is the key to great pictures when in fact 90% of the work happens in the mind of the person behind the camera  :cheers:

Lane
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Mik3ymomo on May 24, 2016, 10:46:35 AM
what camera is that it takes great pictures?

You know how Lane is. If he decides he is going to do something; he is going to put in the effort to learn what he needs to and to do it right. Why should photography be any different? He is the perfect student but he mostly teaches himself.
He is usually the one helping me with my project. I'm glad I could return the favor in some way. Even if he were learning photography just to take photos of his growing family I think it's a fantastic hobby. But I'm biased.  :D





Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: Verz on May 27, 2016, 04:41:31 AM
Man just read through this whole thread in awe at the attention to detail, picking up info and ideas for my build and sad to see it was sold. Amazing build and the new owner is very lucky.
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 22, 2016, 03:42:23 PM
Thanks Verz. Don't be too sad. The new owner is a good guy  8)

Update - 6-22-16 -> This build officially wrapped up between April and May of 2016 or pages in the mid 60s of this build thread. My priorities have changed vastly over the 6 year build so when I met all of my goals and the car was finished I expressed my interest to sell and the car was purchased before I was able to even officially list it. Member kinger is the current owner of the car now and his thread picks up where mine left off. You can visit his build thread here (http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=24359.0)

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Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: ls3_rob on June 23, 2016, 10:20:26 AM
what % tint did you have?
Title: Re: Mississippi FD - 383CI Forged LS1 Stroker Build
Post by: halfspec on June 23, 2016, 10:24:02 AM
37% I believe. John installed it and from his experience windows inherently tint some light coming through them by a few percent so the idea is that that few percent would bring the total tint number down to ~ 35% which is the legal limit in MS.

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