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Off-Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: DeadGXL on October 23, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
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Im interested to hear from anyone with previous experiences on the issue. If you could just keep it to how it changed your life, costs, what to expect or watch out for etc that would be excellent...
BECAUSE i know its stupid and shouldnt have happened. Somone can be completely fine after a couple of beers but if you register a number they'll try to stick it to you regardless. Maybe because drink affects people differently, so fuck it treat everyone like criminals? I dont know.
As for anyone that may ask questions instead of just expand upon their own experience;
I opted for blood test to maybe improve my numbers because it took captain america an hour 1/2 to get down somewhere to draw blood in hopes to better my score. So i dont know it. Hired an attorney cause the butt raping is comming.
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My previous experience with this is a dead nephew because a driver thought he was fine with a few beers.
Head on collision. Nephew dead, drunk driver walked away.
I hope Captain America slams your ass in jail.
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Plane and simple pay in money or pay in time. One way or another they are going to get something from your.
You can bitch about the law all you want cause you feel like your fine after 2-3 beer. But its pretty black in white for a DUI, does not matter how good you fell the fact is will you blow a number period!
That being said I had and EX that got one and refused to listen to the brick wall that hit her in the fact about this shit. Get the tape from the test thats where you start. After that expect to loose your DL if don'tdont fight for it. Then also expect it to get mpublicplic then you ever wanted it to be. With mug shots on the net and in the papers now everyone will know and you better just own up to it. People are on different sides of the fence about should they tell there job or not I really dont know where I stand on it casue I guess it matters if you work flipping burgers or teaching.
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Hired an attorney cause the butt raping is cumming.
Fixed, and I hope so. I never met my grandmother as a result of an impaired driver. Be glad you didn't kill anyone in your recklessness.
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^^exactly what i was asking not for. Yah you lost someone, someone was hurt because someone utterly drunk and out of their mind should not have been driving. Like after a beer according to numbers your dwi so really the system has got this skewed, taking the few legal vices they allow people to have (cigs and beer bascially), and turning it into something utterly ugly because it happened at all, or happened in excess.
And to all those hurt or have family hurt by such intoxicated, wreckless drivers im sorry. If its any consolation to you know that i give up drinking entirely. Not that i had a problem with it, but this experience so far has been that bad. Never been arrested before, no record, not even a ticket on my driving record. So before you lump me in with some crazy carmageddon loving alchohalic dick faces, just breathe and let me know something useful, PLEASE and thank you. gawd.
So would anyone else like to try?
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If you post a "I did this stupid ass thing" thread, you will not be able to immunize it from criticism, period. Especially true if said stupid ass thing has killed forum members' loved ones. Someone may reply with what you are actually looking for, but don't get pissy about getting cracked on for it. Get mad and downplay someone's loss, and you'll get straight up barbecued for it.
I cannot throw stones because in my younger and dumber days I have driven after drinking as well. Bad enough to be considered "DUI"?, no telling... But I sure won't get on a high horse and be a hypocrite about it. I hope things work out OK for you and that you learned the right lesson.
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" I hope things work out OK for you and that you learned the right lesson."
Good info right there. Count your blessings and move on.
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Right not to down play anyones loss or say their frustration isnt valid. And as for the lesson yes, i've taken away drinking privledges period just because this stands to ruin my life. So lesson learned? 10 times over. I was just wondering if anyone had some advice.
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Pay the big bucks for a lawyer. Best advice ya can get! Also use one that does DUI.
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Pay the big bucks for a lawyer. Best advice ya can get! Also use one that does DUI.
If you like to drive.... This is your advice....^^^
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Pay the big bucks for a lawyer. Best advice ya can get! Also use one that does DUI.
Yep, and don't tell anyone at work.
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This is the same for all legal matters.
Step 1: Higher a good lawyer.
Step 2: Stop talking about it to anyone but your lawyer, including on the internet.
And the whole "I swear off drinking" bit is not a good response. Generally extreme responses like that end poorly. Unless you have a real alcohol problem, deciding not to drink when you drive is a much more realistic response.
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I got one when I was 21. Leaving the river I decided to drive after drinking maybe a six pack? I felt fine to drive. Park rangers immediately pulled me over and said they saw our group of people drinking all day. They did the sobriety test and I passed it. Except for writing the alphabet backwards, I messed up a couple times and corrected it. ( They said I was obviously drunk because of that) So after two breathalyzers with very different results (1.2 and .07) they arrested me.
I got a good lawyer and was in the process of fighting it when my work (Toyota dealership) found out about it and had to let me go due to insurance. Even though I wasn't even proven guilty of it yet.
Then after fighting it in court I got it DROPPED. Fully dismissed. Which in placer county in California is extremely rare. Supposedly this county has the highest DUI percentage of any county in the US. I paid 1,500$ in lawyer fees. Better than 15,000$ in DUI fees.
Bottom line I've never had more than one beer and gotten behind the wheel since. It's fucking stupid. Can seriously ruin your life. Also that park rangers are stupid and don't know what they're doing so if you do make sure their dumbasses pull you over.
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I had a friend in HS who's mom was a criminal defense lawyer, she knew we were starting to drink party etc. She told us if you ever get stopped and have had drinks in you refuse every test until you have a lawyer present. They will suspend your license but that is beatable. Since then the test is X time away from Y incident there is good case law for you to beat the charge. IE since the test wasnt administered the second you were pulled over it is not accurate as to if you were drunk then, IE you can score higher after because you aren't done metabolizing what you drank which results in reasonable doubt. Then since this is presumably at night you can beat the refusal of test license suspension due to being disoriented because of the stress of the flashing cop lights.
I cant make this up but there was this alcoholic whom shes 5-0 with beating duis. I do not condone drinking and driving, but I hate to see otherwise law abiding citizens in jail. :secret:
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I got a good lawyer and was in the process of fighting it when my work (Toyota dealership) found out about it and had to let me go due to insurance. Even though I wasn't even proven guilty of it yet.
Then after fighting it in court I got it DROPPED. Fully dismissed.
You have reasonable grounds for a wrongful termination suit if this was recent and you consider it worth pursuing. They didn't "have to let you go due to insurance" until such time as you were adjudicated/convicted.
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I personally was rearended (my gf and I) about 7 years ago in my mom's Z28 by a drunk driving a rented minivan. It was on a busy road in the middle of a bunch of restaurants, and we were turning into a Chili's parking lot. It was a really hard hit, car was almost totalled. The dude says "I'm going in to call the police" and goes in Chilis. Unknown to us, he goes straight to the bar, orders a couple beers, and starts drinking. Never called the cops, but I did. When they got there he was still inside and they had to go in and get him. Cop was absolutely mad as a hornet... The guy was shitfaced, but because he went in and drank they had no way to prove his BAC was above the limit at the time of the accident. He was obviously a professional drunk driver. If I had known what was up I would have tackled the motherfucker and held him for the popo. I probably should have sued, but that would have only affected the rental car company.
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Damn, I would have never thought of that. Slick mother fucker.
I actually just picked a friend of mine up from jail Sunday morning after he got stopped for his first DWI the night before. He let off the brake and coasted into the car in front of him at a light.
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In my area, the penalty is based on the severity of the infraction. If you were at or close to the legal limit and were not involved in any accidents, you can get a "first time offender" deal. You lose your license for 30 days mandatory, then you can get a work permit for the next 2 months. You have to have an evaluation done - and take the appropriate amount of counseling/dry roads classes accordingly. You pay thousands in fines, court costs, instatement fees, etc.
When your court supervision and probation periods are over and you have completed all of your required counseling/classes, you get your license back and the charge never shows up on your record as a conviction.
If you were beligerantly drunk, you get all of the same plus they put a breathalizer in your car for 1 year. After a certain BAC level, its considered a felony and you face jail time.
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between the ages of 17-25 drunk driving was just a part of a night out for me. I dont mean just a couple beers. I mean shitfaced, stumble out of the club and drive not only myself but passengers also. Looking back I thank god I didnt hurt or kill anyone. :-[ never got caught either. Nowadays I wont even have a single beer with dinner if I know I will be driving.
OP I know this sounds cliche but take your lumps now and consider your self lucky. You probably wont ever drive while intoxicated again. Good lesson to learn now while your young with much less to lose career and family wise.
edit. just guessing your still in your VERY early 20's
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My previous experience with this is a dead nephew because a driver thought he was fine with a few beers.
Head on collision. Nephew dead, drunk driver walked away.
I hope Captain America slams your ass in jail.
Agreed.
Its one thing to try to get out of it. Its another thing entirely to act like you didn't deserve it.
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Never had one in 50 years. I do have a very good friend that is a Sgt. on police dept and is was DUI task force in the past. Basically what he told me is that the initial breathalyzer is not admissable and does not record the reading but it is the start of where they build the case against you.
Sabre's advise to hire a good DUI lawyer is the best advice after the fact. The video tape is evidence that the lawyer will lool over to make sure the police followed the law and may help. In Atlanta, a first time DUI will set you back 15000.00 by the time it's all said and done. Makes for an expensive night.
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I personally was rearended (my gf and I) about 7 years ago in my mom's Z28 by a drunk driving a rented minivan. It was on a busy road in the middle of a bunch of restaurants, and we were turning into a Chili's parking lot. It was a really hard hit, car was almost totalled. The dude says "I'm going in to call the police" and goes in Chilis. Unknown to us, he goes straight to the bar, orders a couple beers, and starts drinking. Never called the cops, but I did. When they got there he was still inside and they had to go in and get him. Cop was absolutely mad as a hornet... The guy was shitfaced, but because he went in and drank they had no way to prove his BAC was above the limit at the time of the accident. He was obviously a professional drunk driver. If I had known what was up I would have tackled the motherfucker and held him for the popo. I probably should have sued, but that would have only affected the rental car company.
I've seen that attempted a couple times. If the cops on point he'll hook the guy for leaving the scene of an accident. Then he could get a copy of the guys drink bill possibly establishing he couldnt've consumed X amount in Y time to be a certain BAC, witness statements from the bartenders serving him including the people around him, have a look at the security video, if any, establishing his objective signs symptoms of intox prior/post arrest. Then drop kick his ass all the way to jail. Or so I've heard.
Advice: Get a gooood lawyer and pray......
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All this makes me want to stay off the streets, you guys were or are a rolling :chug: :chug: :chug: hazard.
Not to mention seniors, idiots, folks with jacked brain chemistry, bad eyesight, bad decision makers, texting, daydreamers, talking and chewing gum, screaming kids, playing with radio or nav, tired or sleepy, jacked cars, bald tires, no brakes, eatin, driving into setting sun ...
Let's all take this opportunity to make better decisions when behind the wheel of our lethal machines, let's be safe out there and constantly remind ourselves to drive defensively cause there are lots of hazardous drivers out there. Peace out
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And people call me an alcoholic for drinking at home. Psh...
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I say enough stupid things on the internet to get flamed alot so I can give some advice. Keep it simple man, just update us on how things are going. No one will hold it against you forever but some will be butt hurt (no insult intended). Sorry about your luck after a beer or two.
I do not drink anymore because I black out after a beer or less and the night unfolds on the other me's wants/needs/ I used to wake up in strange places and usually required me to run naked somewhere (out windows, doors, etc) to avoid an ass whooping. I can tell you that I had nigths in my youth where I woul;d have no idea how I got home and Id find my motorcyce in the yard on its side. One of these nights I did end up in jail but it wasnt for driving and they let me go after I woke up and they never took my name :)
anyway good luck on your court stuff. just be sure you got a good lawyer. oh and taking the blood test is NEVER a good idea. you can't fight the results in court and with a breath test there are too many variables that can be fought with a good lawyer.
ah hell. You are an ASSHOKLE ;)
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Other than getting a good lawyer you need to start getting into action.
M.A.D.D class (required in some states)
Talk to a professional that can evaluate your drinking habits. (again some states require this)
Go to treatment if suggested... document all above.
Get into action quickly -The court is going to take this very seriously.
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I got a good lawyer and was in the process of fighting it when my work (Toyota dealership) found out about it and had to let me go due to insurance. Even though I wasn't even proven guilty of it yet.
Then after fighting it in court I got it DROPPED. Fully dismissed.
You have reasonable grounds for a wrongful termination suit if this was recent and you consider it worth pursuing. They didn't "have to let you go due to insurance" until such time as you were adjudicated/convicted.
I talked with my lawyer about that. They did have the right to because the courts and DMV are two totally different things. The DMV shows that I was arrested for a DUI therefor I am guilty of a DUI. I have 30 days after the arrest to protest to the DMV that the arrest was wrongful. Then after that its absolutely stuck on your DMV record for 3 years. I didn't know about that so I didn't do it. Even if the courts drop it dmv does not care. And the insurance company only looks at your driving record which showed I was arrested for a DUI. So remember if you get arrested for it file a claim within 30 days with DMV. At least in California.
I tried so hard to get my job back. I wrote letters to the judge and everything. The fact was I missed the chance to challenge the arrest. The courts said they could do nothing to take the DUI off my driving record. I only got it fully dropped off my criminal record. It's wiped clean but supposedly if I get another DUI it will count as my second for 13 years after my first one. And multiple duis suck.
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Well... like i said im done with all of it. I only socially drank out with some friends. Now its not drinking at all because its been that bad of an experience so far and im only 1/4th through it. And according to the letter of the law you cant really even be "under the influence" of one beer because you stand to hurt or kill someone. I mean its zero tolerance so just dont do it.
Thanks for all the shared stories, kind words, and not so kind words. Sent request to mods to delete this thread but it didn't work :(
everyone stay safe.
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Remember if you are on probation from a DUI or were just arrested for one don't buy alcohol! If they swipe your ID at a liquor store to validate it the cops are immediately notifies and they will arrest you. Some of those machines are hooked up to a phone line and they know when it's swiped. My lawyer told me I couldn't purchase alcohol for 90 days after my arrest.
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Remember if you are on probation from a DUI or were just arrested for one don't buy alcohol! If they swipe your ID at a liquor store to validate it the cops are immediately notifies and they will arrest you. Some of those machines are hooked up to a phone line and they know when it's swiped. My lawyer told me I couldn't purchase alcohol for 90 days after my arrest.
LOL im not worried. I. Am. Done.
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Riiiiighhht. As far as the lawyer goes... there are generally DUI attorneys that specialize in DUI cases and will take you on for a flat-rate... as in $2000 and they will get you off(haha I know I said get you off). You know you have a good one when they charge you $2000-3000 and tell you that you will not lose your license AND that they WILL get you off. They will handle your case even if you lose the case, they will appeal until they win. All for the flat-rate DUI fee. They are really impressive sleezeballs. But they are worth it.
It all depends on your state, but you probably will have to do something about your license before you court date. You will have to do this with your motor vehicle department in order to not lose your license before the court date. They operate serperately in most states and people dont realize this. Usually you can petition the DMV for a hearing. Do that now if you havent, because if you dont, you will have to take the classes to get your license back even if you win your court case.
Get the lawyer that tells you that he is yours until you win. Spend the money.
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This thread is reasonable and not a flame fest or anything, I do not see a need to delete it. You can edit your posts if you want though.
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This thread is reasonable and not a flame fest or anything, I do not see a need to delete it. You can edit your posts if you want though.
thanks I just did after realizing what I actually said.
Good luck man! i know guys fighting their 4th or 5th charge now. those guys are facing serious jail time though.
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This thread is reasonable and not a flame fest or anything, I do not see a need to delete it. You can edit your posts if you want though.
Blake and I think so much alike it's scary.