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Offline halfspec

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2013, 05:45:29 PM »
is this going to be a "1 and done" group buy? this is something i had planned for down the road, assuming i keep my car (which i have for sale). I dont want to hop on a group buy now not knowing for sure if i will need them.

I'm not planning on it being a 1 and done thing. I'm investing the money I make on this GB into replenishing my supplies when its all over so I can continue to offer these products. Prices will undoubtedly increase a little though. The margins on the ls2 electronics especially are too slim (when factoring assembly time) to keep the prices where they are. That goes for the lines as well. I'll try and keep it very competitive though.

Lane


Offline orion4096

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2013, 05:52:17 PM »
I'm fine with paying +$5 for something that's PNP.  One less crimp/solder joint of mine to fail...

Offline ncaudio

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2013, 08:26:38 AM »
OK, I'm in too..

1. ccdominic
2. orion4096
3. skeltic
4. Mik3ymomo
5. perf0rmance
6. Ls2swap
7.Piglet
8. AHarada
9.wtfx100
10. gnictry
11. Plex
12. Se7ensti
13. ncaudio
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Other:
1. danameisoj - LS1 Wiring/Control Kit

'88 FC LS T56, 94 FD LS T56, '93 FD was LS turbo T56 Ford 8.8 IRS Ablake's old car (project)

Offline halfspec

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2013, 09:29:46 AM »
1. ccdominic
2. orion4096
3. skeltic
4. Mik3ymomo
5. perf0rmance
6. Ls2swap
7.Piglet
8. AHarada
9.wtfx100
10. gnictry
11. Plex
12. Se7ensti
13. ncaudio
14. Daniel
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Other:
1. danameisoj - LS1 Wiring/Control Kit
2. AtlxPat - LS1 Wiring kit, Vertical Compressor Block + Seals
3. poss - Vertical Compressor Block + Seals
4. mr3plus1 - Vertical Compressor Block

Interested / Not Committed:
1. flattop - AC Lines
2. hayabusa - LS2 Wiring / Control
3. jeffp5 - AC Lines


I just wanted to update the list and get my ducks in a row. I've had a ton of PMs coming through and I'm keeping up with everything in a big excel sheet, but I wanted this thread to reflect it in brief.

Some updates:

I am hoping to start taking orders is 1 week. That's Wednesday June 19th 2013. The only thing I am really waiting on is some feedback on some more fitting and seal options in regards to how they work with a couple of header/manifold options. The delay is coming from shipping times unfortunately.

I have built 95% of my shopping list for the big bulk order I'll be initially placing. The last 5% will cover wire loom, heatshrink and getting quotes for color coded wiring and bulk fire sleeves which I'm hoping to knock out over the next couple of days.

A overview of the electrical options with pictures should be posted tomorrow. I know I said I'd have some information available over the weekend, but after sorting through everything I redesigned a few things, so I'm waiting for my prototype parts to be delivered tonight.

Lane

Offline jeffp5

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2013, 09:49:06 AM »
you can add me as interested, but not committed.
93 RX7/LS1/T56
05 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited hemi


Offline RX7Driver4Life

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2013, 07:18:25 PM »
im very interested but cant commit money is fluctuating greatly right now and got a bunch of stuff to do to the car.
93 LS1/T56 FD RX-7

Offline Rotaruffian

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2013, 05:55:18 PM »
1. ccdominic
2. orion4096
3. skeltic
4. Mik3ymomo
5. perf0rmance
6. Ls2swap
7.Piglet
8. AHarada
9.wtfx100
10. gnictry
11. Plex
12. Se7ensti
13. ncaudio
14. Daniel
15. Rotaruffian
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Other:
1. danameisoj - LS1 Wiring/Control Kit
2. AtlxPat - LS1 Wiring kit, Vertical Compressor Block + Seals
3. poss - Vertical Compressor Block + Seals
4. mr3plus1 - Vertical Compressor Block

Interested / Not Committed:
1. flattop - AC Lines
2. hayabusa - LS2 Wiring / Control
3. jeffp5 - AC Lines


Offline ccdominic

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2013, 11:11:47 AM »
only five more. let's get this thing going. dying down here in this texas heat >:(

Offline halfspec

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2013, 11:28:52 AM »
Haha. 20 is just a number I was hoping to hit, but I'm not going to hold up the lines waiting for 20 people to join.

Right now I'm only holding to get feedback from 2 other members on how 2 compressor fitting options work with different header, manifold, and engine mount options. That should only take a few more days, depending on how fast the shipping couriers operate. Hopefully after I hear back from them I'll have a solution for every combination out there based on a LS1 compressor, except for spoolin headers. I've got a guy to verify spoolin headers as well, but that won't happen until he gets his headers, so that may take another week or 2. I doubt the spoolin headers will pose any issues though since they seem to be routed identically to JTR headers.

I'm hoping to have a lunch-break update in a couple of hours. I have confirmed that my wiring solutions for making a plug and play / no splice LS1 AC controller kit work as planned. All that will be required to install the kit is to plug a few new pins in the LS1 PCM connectors, bolt down a ground lug, install the custom male to female tap behind the driver's side fuse box for 12v switched, then finally install the male to female tap between the thermo switch and the dash wiring (behind the glovebox). The LS2 kit will be similar from a installation standpoint. The only difference is that you will have to splice/tap the RPM wire that runs between the LS1 PCM and the tachometer.

Pictures of the wiring should be up a little after lunch.

Lane

Offline jdm91t

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2013, 02:37:56 PM »
Added my name to the list, I'm so in on this!! Only thing is I need to get an fbody compressor, I have the GTO one. Does anyone know if the GTO ls2 bracket is different from the fbody bracket?

1. ccdominic
2. orion4096
3. skeltic
4. Mik3ymomo
5. perf0rmance
6. Ls2swap
7.Piglet
8. AHarada
9.wtfx100
10. gnictry
11. Plex
12. Se7ensti
13. ncaudio
14. Daniel
15. Rotaruffian
16. jdm91t
17.
18.
19.
20.

Other:
1. danameisoj - LS1 Wiring/Control Kit
2. AtlxPat - LS1 Wiring kit, Vertical Compressor Block + Seals
3. poss - Vertical Compressor Block + Seals
4. mr3plus1 - Vertical Compressor Block

Interested / Not Committed:
1. flattop - AC Lines
2. hayabusa - LS2 Wiring / Control
3. jeffp5 - AC Lines
93 403ci FD finally burning rubber :drive:

Offline digitalsolo

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2013, 02:39:58 PM »
All this A/C talk keeps making me look at my bay with a "hmm, where could it fit" look.

Answer is, unfortunately, nowhere.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage - Gen V LT4/TR6060, upper/lower pullies, headers, tune.
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock...ish.

Offline ls3_rob

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2013, 02:40:48 PM »
lunch time is over  :yay:
07 tl type s daily
93 rx7 ls3

Offline halfspec

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2013, 02:56:37 PM »
Alright. For those of you that are interested, here's a look into the prototype parts I've been putting together for the electrical side of this GB. *Note* NONE of the prototypes pictures are even 1/2 way finished. I just wanted to give you something to look at.




This is an image of 5 parts of the internal LS1 control / wiring kit. These are the relay sockets I have decided to go with. In this pic I'm missing a micro relay, none of the wiring is pictured, the PCM terminals are missing, a diode and fuse is missing, and the plug and play tap-in connectors aren't shown. All this is is something to let you know what the relay side is going to look like. This will need to be mounted close to your PCM.



This is a image of the internal LS2 controller / wiring kit. As you can see it's missing the same components as the LS1 kit. The main difference is that this controller is has a RPM window switch wired in.



Here are the two custom tap-in connectors I've been working hard to make happen. These connectors plug into existing wiring to provide switched 12v and the AC turn on signal from the AC button. This allows you to install the kit without having to make any wiring splices (on the LS1 kit). These connectors were built for demonstration purposes only, so there's no need for any wiring nazi's to break out the FSM to see if I've tapped the correct connector positions :)
I actually built them on a 15minute lunch break so I even have a bad crimp in the mix. On the same topic the  pink wires that tap off of these connectors are only for demonstration purposes. Their loose ends will be connected to the control module in the production version and color and length will be adjusted.



The images above shows the tap-in connector that fits between the dash wiring and the evaporator's thermoswitch to provide a trigger when the A/C button is pressed on the dash.






The links above show the process for installing the 12v switched tap-in connector. This tap-in will be fused off of B2 and will also be sub-fused on the actual control module. The final version will also have a heat shrink sleeve to insulate the open terminal connection on this connection.

Both the LS1 and the LS3/Universal Engine wiring kits will come with tap-in connectors raising the final price to:

LS1 Wiring / Control interior kit = $70
LS2/LS3/Universal Engine wiring / control interior kit = $115.00


Finally, I will not be able to offer an external all-in-one LS3/Universal Engine wiring / control interior kit + fan control/wiring. The idea for this kit was to create a module that could be mounted in the engine bay that would control the AC compressor, but also have fan outputs so you could simply plug up your fan to enable PCM control. After spending a lot of time on the idea, I found that it was not possible to fit everything needed in my weatherproof enclosures of choice.

What I CAN offer to anybody is external fan controllers for $100.



These would be modules that would mount under the passenger side flip up light. The install would consist of connecting a terminal to your fuse box for 12v, tapping into 1 wire for a 12v switched signal, bolting on a ground terminal, plugging to terminals into your PCM (low and high fan control), and plugging in your fans (modules built with plug and play fan connectors). This will enable PCM fan control based on coolant temps. It will also allow your PCM to turn on your fans when you hit your AC switch for cooler A/C temps.


That's pretty much it for now. Like I said, these are rooouuughhh prototypes. The final versions will use cut-to-length color-coded wiring that matches the RX7 factory and GM factory colors.

Lane




Offline MPbdy

Re: HalfSpec's Official RX7 FD Air Conditioning Line Group Buy
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2013, 03:07:18 PM »
What do you do with the original fan relays in the front harness? Do they get clipped?

I Can't decide if I want your ls2 ac controller. I already have an msd window switch but haven't made much effort towards wiring it in. If anything I have just identified the AC wires from the pcm harness I'm working on. I'm partially following a wiring diagram from pooch I believe that is stickied in the electrical section.

Any input? It looks like yours will be a cleaner package than what I'm piecing together.